[MUSIC]
JOYCE: WE HAVE A PRIVILEGE OF TRUSTING GOD.
"WELL, I'VE DONE EVERYTHING I KNOW TO DO.
I GUESS I'LL JUST HAVE TO TRUST GOD."
DO YOU EVER SAY, "I SAID THAT"?
"I'VE DONE EVERYTHING I KNOW TO DO.
I GUESS THERE'S NOTHING LEFT TO DO BUT PRAY."
WELL, THAT SHOULD BE THE FIRST THING WE DO.
AND TRUSTING GOD SHOULD BE THE FIRST THING THAT WE DO.
IT'S A PRIVILEGE TO PRAY.
IT'S A PRIVILEGE TO TRUST GOD.
TRUSTING GOD HAS SIDE EFFECTS.
PEACE, JOY, CONFIDENCE, STABILITY, JOY, EXTREME JOY.
[AUDIENCE CHEERING]
JOYCE: I MEAN, TRUSTING GOD IS THE BEST
SLEEP AID IN THE WORLD.
[AUDIENCE CHEERING]
JOYCE: NOW, TRUSTING GOD DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE SIT BACK
AND DO ABSOLUTELY NOTHING WHILE GOD DOES EVERYTHING.
TRUSTING GOD REALLY MEANS THAT WE ARE GONNA PUT OUR TRUST IN
HIM BUT WE'RE ALSO GOING TO DO GOOD.
NOW LET ME JUST SHARE SOMETHING WITH YOU THAT GOD SPOKE TO MY
HEART YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS AGO.
AND IT WAS AT A TIME WHEN I HAD ALL KINDS OF PROBLEMS, ENEMIES,
"JOYCE, YOU TAKE CARE OF MY NEEDS AND I'LL TAKE CARE OF
YOURS."
SEE, GOD NEEDS US TO GET OUT IN THE WORLD AND BE A BLESSING.
GOD NEEDS US TO GET OUT IN THE WORLD AND SHINE--LET ME PUT IT
MORE SIMPLY BECAUSE THE SHINE THING CAN KINDA GET MYSTICAL.
"YES, I'M GONNA GO OUT TODAY AND SHINE."
[AUDIENCE LAUGHING]
JOYCE: FOR SOMEBODY, THAT COULD BE PUTTING ON SPARKLY
JEWELRY, I DON'T KNOW.
[AUDIENCE LAUGHING]
JOYCE: GOD NEEDS US TO GET OUT IN OUR LITTLE PART OF
THE WORLD AND ACT LIKE WE BELIEVE IN JESUS.
[AUDIENCE APPLAUDING]
JOYCE: "WELL, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN?"
THAT MEANS THAT YOU'RE KIND TO PEOPLE.
THAT YOU TREAT PEOPLE GOOD.
THAT YOU'RE QUICK TO FORGIVE.
THAT YOU HELP PEOPLE WHEN THEY NEED HELP.
THAT YOU DON'T COMPLAIN ALL THE TIME AND MURMUR AND GRUMBLE
AND THAT YOU--WELL, ANYWAY, YOU KNOW, RIGHT?
YOU KNOW.
YOU KNOW, TRUSTING GOD IS WHAT LEADS US TO
A LIFESTYLE OF OBEDIENCE.
HOW MANY OF YOU KNOW WE SUPPOSED TO OBEY GOD?
THAT'S-- [AUDIENCE APPLAUDING]
JOYCE: THAT'S KIND OF THE LONG AND THE SHORT OF THIS
THING, RIGHT?
IT'S, LIKE, DO WHAT I TELL YOU TO AND YOUR LIFE WILL BE
BLESSED.
CAN YOU TURN TO SOMEBODY NEXT TO YOU AND SAY, "DO WHAT GOD TELLS
YOU TO, YOUR LIFE WILL BE BLESSED."
THIS IS NOT HARD.
ANYBODY COULD PASS THIS CLASS TODAY.
[AUDIENCE LAUGHING]
JOYCE: AND SO TRUSTING GOD IS THE ONLY THING THAT'S GONNA LEAD
US TO OBEDIENCE BECAUSE WHY WOULD I OBEY SOMEBODY THAT I
DIDN'T TRUST?
AND SO EVEN WHEN MOSES DISOBEYED GOD AND GOD GOT ANGRY AT HIM, HE
SAID, "YOU DIDN'T BELIEVE ME."
SO TRUSTING AND OBEDIENCE GO HAND IN HAND.
WHY IN THE WORLD WOULD I TITHE AND GIVE OFFERINGS IF I DIDN'T
TRUST GOD?
THAT WOULD JUST BE THE DUMBEST THING THAT ANYBODY COULD
POSSIBLY DO, WOULD BE TO TAKE 10%-PLUS OF THEIR MONEY
AND GIVE IT AWAY.
SEE, THAT'S WHY THE WORLD DOESN'T UNDERSTAND THIS.
I HAD AN ACCOUNTANT ONE TIME TELL ME, "YOU'RE GIVING AWAY TOO
MUCH MONEY."
[LAUGHING]
HE DIDN'T UNDERSTAND.
HE DIDN'T GET IT.
WHY DO WE--WHY DID YOU PUT AN OFFERING IN THIS MORNING TO HELP
PROVIDE WATER FOR SOMEBODY OVER IN AFRICA SOMEWHERE THAT YOU'LL
NEVER KNOW OR NEVER MEET?
BECAUSE YOU TRUST GOD.
AND THAT TRUST PROVOKES YOU TO OBEDIENCE AND YOU BELIEVE THAT
IF YOU GIVE, IF YOU BRING ALL THE TITHE AND OFFERING INTO THE
STOREHOUSE, THAT GOD WILL REBUKE THE DEVOURER FOR YOUR SAKE
AND HE WILL OPEN THE WINDOWS OF HEAVEN AND POUR OUT A BLESSING
SO GREAT THAT YOU CANNOT CONTAIN IT.
[AUDIENCE CHEERING]
JOYCE: AND WHEN WE DON'T DO WHAT GOD TELLS US TO,
WE DON'T TRUST HIM.
WE DON'T BELIEVE THE WORD.
BUT IF WE DO BELIEVE AND IF WE DO TRUST, THEN WE DO WHAT HE
TELLS US TO.
HMM, IT'S QUIET IN HERE.
[AUDIENCE LAUGHING]
JOYCE: DO YOU WANT ME TO TAKE THE OFFERING AGAIN?
WOULD I GET A BETTER ONE THE SECOND TIME?
[AUDIENCE LAUGHING]
JOYCE: YOU KNOW, IF I REALLY BELIEVE THAT SOMETHING MARVELOUS
IS GONNA HAPPEN IN MY LIFE, IF I WILL FORGIVE PEOPLE WHO HAVE
HURT ME, HA, THEN I'M NOT GONNA WASTE ONE MORE DAY OF MY LIFE
MAD AT SOMEBODY WHO OBVIOUSLY DOESN'T HAVE ENOUGH SENSE
TO KNOW HOW TO TREAT PEOPLE.
I'M GONNA PRAY FOR THEM AND I'M GONNA DO WHAT GOD TELLS ME TO
EVEN THOUGH I MAY NOT UNDERSTAND IT.
I'M GONNA DO IT BECAUSE I TRUST HIM.
AUDIENCE: AMEN.
JOYCE: C'MON.
[AUDIENCE CHEERING]
JOYCE: IN EVERY SITUATION, I'M GONNA TAKE SOME TRUST
AND THAT TRUST IS GONNA LEAD ME INTO MORE AND MORE OBEDIENCE.
I WANT US TO LOOK AT 1 CORINTHIANS
CHAPTER 1, VERSE 9.
I DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW TO TELL YOU HOW MANY TIMES IN MY LIFE
I'VE READ THIS SCRIPTURE AND 2 DAYS AGO I SAW SOMETHING
IN IT THAT I'VE NEVER SEEN.
IT AMAZES ME WHEN THAT HAPPENS.
HOW MANY OF YOU HAVE THAT HAPPEN IN YOUR LIFE?
YOU SEE SOMETHING IN THE SCRIPTURE, IT'S LIKE, "WELL, DID
THEY JUST ADD THAT WORD?" [AUDIENCE LAUGHING]
JOYCE: I MEAN, I'VE LOOKED AT THIS OVER AND OVER AND OVER.
I'VE PREACHED ON THIS.
FEMALE: I THANK GOD FOR YOU!
AUDIENCE: AMEN.
JOYCE: WELL, I THANK GOD FOR HIM, AMEN?
OKAY, NOW LISTEN.
1 CORINTHIANS 1:9, "GOD IS FAITHFUL [RELIABLE, TRUSTWORTHY
AND THEREFORE EVER TRUE TO HIS PROMISE, AND HE CAN BE DEPENDED
ON], BY HIM YOU WERE CALLED INTO," NOW I WANT YOU TO WATCH
THIS PART, "INTO COMPANIONSHIP AND PARTICIPATION WITH HIS SON,
JESUS CHRIST OUR LORD."
NOW, THE WORD THAT JUST JUMPED OUT AT ME AND IT'S SOMETHING I
PREACH--BUT, WOW, NOW I GOT ANOTHER SCRIPTURE TO BACK IT
UP--WAS THE WORD PARTICIPATION.
WE'RE PARTNERS WITH GOD.
SO EVEN WHEN I'M TRUSTING GOD, HE MAY SHOW ME SOMETHING THAT I
NEED TO DO AND THEN IF I GO DO THAT, THAT'S ALSO GONNA HELP
SOLVE MY PROBLEM BUT IT'S NOT GONNA HELP SOLVE MY PROBLEM
BECAUSE I CAME UP WITH SOME BRIGHT IDEA OF SOMETHING I COULD
DO TO SOLVE MY PROBLEM.
IT'S GONNA SOLVE MY PROBLEM BECAUSE GOD SHOWED ME,
"DO THIS."
DO THIS.
YOU KNOW, I HAVE HAD SOME AMAZING RELIEF IN MY SOUL FROM
PRACTICALLY BLESSING PEOPLE WHO HAVE HURT ME.
[AUDIENCE CHEERING]
JOYCE: YOU'VE HEARD A LOT OF MY STORIES ABOUT MY UPBRINGING
AND THAT MY DAD SEXUALLY ABUSED ME AND, OH MY GOSH, I'LL NEVER
FORGET WHEN I WAS PRAYING ONE DAY.
GOTTA BE CAREFUL WHEN YOU PRAY.
[AUDIENCE LAUGHING]
JOYCE: I WAS PRAYING ONE DAY AND, LO AND BEHOLD,
GOD SHOWED UP.
[AUDIENCE LAUGHING]
JOYCE: ISN'T THAT SCARY?
[AUDIENCE LAUGHING]
JOYCE: I MEAN, WHEN WE SAY, "O GOD, SHOW ME
WHAT YOU WANT ME TO DO," DO WE REALLY WANT GOD TO SHOW US WHAT
HE WANTS US TO DO?
[AUDIENCE LAUGHING]
JOYCE: AND I FELT LIKE GOD TOLD ME TO BRING MY PARENTS TO
THE CITY WHERE I LIVE AND BUY THEM A HOUSE AND TAKE CARE OF
THEM UNTIL THEY DIED.
[AUDIENCE LAUGHING]
JOYCE: WELL, I SAID, "I REBUKE YOU, DEVIL."
[AUDIENCE LAUGHING]
JOYCE: I DID!
I HONESTLY DID.
I DIDN'T THINK THERE WAS ANY WAY THAT GOD COULD ASK ME TO DO
THAT, NOT AFTER WHAT MY PARENTS HAD DONE TO ME.
AND SO I ASSUMED THAT WASN'T GOD AND WENT ON AND THE NEXT TIME I
WAS PRAYING THERE GOD WAS AGAIN.
[AUDIENCE LAUGHING]
JOYCE: LONG STORY SHORT, WE ENDED UP BEING OBEDIENT TO GOD
IN THAT AREA.
TRIED TO BUY A CHEAP HOUSE.
GOD SAID, "NO, YOU BUY A NICE HOUSE."
[AUDIENCE LAUGHING]
JOYCE: I MEAN, I DID EVERYTHING I COULD TO WIGGLE OUT
OF ANY PART OF IT I COULD.
AND CAN I TELL YOU THAT THAT HAS BEEN THE SINGLE GREATEST VICTORY
AND BLESSING--NOW, HANG ON A MINUTE AND I'LL GIVE YOU
A REAL REASON TO SHOUT.
FOR ME TO GLADLY TAKE CARE OF THE MAN WHO SEXUALLY ABUSED ME
WEEK AFTER WEEK AFTER WEEK AFTER WEEK FOR ABOUT 15 YEARS AND TO
TAKE CARE OF A MOTHER WHO KNEW WHAT HE WAS DOING BUT DIDN'T
HAVE THE COURAGE TO DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT.
FOR ME TO BE ABLE BECAUSE OF MY LOVE FOR GOD TO TAKE CARE OF
THEM WAS THE GREATEST VICTORY I'VE EVER HAD.
[AUDIENCE CHEERING]
JOYCE: AND BOY, I TELL YOU, IT HAD SIDE EFFECTS.
I MEAN, HERE WAS ONE SIDE EFFECT.
OUR MINISTRY JUST, LIKE, WHOOO!
OKAY, SO I CAN SIT AROUND, "O GOD, WHAT CAN I DO?
GOD, I'M TRUSTING YOU FOR MY MINISTRY TO GROW.
O GOD, I'M TRUSTING YOU FOR MY MINISTRY TO GROW.
C'MON, ARE YOU OUT THERE?
O GOD, I'M TRUSTING YOU FOR A PROMOTION AT WORK.
I'M TRUSTING YOU, GOD, I'M TRUSTING YOU."
AND ALL OF A SUDDEN, GOD, "THAT'S GOOD.
YOU'RE TRUSTING ME.
NOW HERE'S A LITTLE-- HERE'S A LITTLE GOOD
YOU CAN DO."
HELLO?
[AUDIENCE LAUGHING]
JOYCE: TRUST THE LORD AND DO GOOD.
"OH, WELL, GOD, DOES IT HAVE TO BE A HOUSE?"
[AUDIENCE LAUGHING]
JOYCE: I ALSO LOVE ACTS 10:38.
YOU KNOW, JESUS REALLY--I MEAN, HE WAS JUDGED AND CRITICIZED.
HE WAS SPIT ON, HE WAS BEATEN, HE WAS MOCKED.
HIS OWN FAMILY THOUGHT HE WAS NUTS.
AND ACTS 10:38 SAYS, "GOD ANOINTED AND CONSECRATED
JESUS OF NAZARETH WITH THE HOLY GHOST,
WITH STRENGTH AND ABILITY AND POWER, AND HE WENT ABOUT
DOING GOOD."
IN THE MIDST OF EVERYTHING THAT HE WAS GOING THROUGH, WHILE HE
WAS BEING REVILED AND INSULTED, HE WENT ABOUT DOING GOOD.
DO YOU KNOW, YOUR ONLY JOB WHEN YOU GET UP IN THE MORNING,
I DON'T CARE IF IT'S SUNDAY, MONDAY, TUESDAY, WEDNESDAY,
THURSDAY, OR FRIDAY, YOUR ONLY JOB WHEN YOU GET UP IN
THE MORNING IS TRUST GOD AND DO GOOD.
[AUDIENCE APPLAUDING]
JOYCE: TRUST GOD AND DO GOOD.
NOW HOW MANY OF YOU WILL ADMIT THAT WHEN YOU'RE HAVING
A PROBLEM YOU CAN GET PRETTY CRANKY?
HOW MANY OF YOU KNOW WHEN YOU'RE HAVING A PROBLEM, YOU CAN
BLAME IT ON EVERYBODY.
"DO GOOD!
I MEAN, DO GOOD!
NOBODY DOES GOOD TO ME."
[AUDIENCE LAUGHING]
JOYCE: "WHY SHOULD I ENCOURAGE ANYBODY?
NOBODY ENCOURAGES ME."
[AUDIENCE LAUGHING]
JOYCE: I DO ALL THE WORK AROUND HERE AND YOU GUYS JUST
LAY AROUND HERE AND DO NOTHING AND I'M SICK AND TIRED AND SICK
AND TIRED AND I'M BEING SICK AND TIRED OF BEING SICK AND TIRED.
[AUDIENCE LAUGHING]
JOYCE: BUT I'M TRUSTING GOD.
[AUDIENCE LAUGHING]
JOYCE: I AM TRUSTING GOD TO MAKE YOU
TREAT ME RIGHT.
[AUDIENCE LAUGHING]
JOYCE: WELL, THERE IT IS, RIGHT THERE.
I AM TRUSTING GOD TO MAKE YOU TREAT ME RIGHT.
"AND I DON'T UNDERSTAND, GOD, WHY YOU'RE NOT MAKING THEM
TREAT ME RIGHT."
DID IT EVER OCCUR TO YOU-- [LAUGHING]
THAT MAYBE GOD IS USING THAT PERSON ON YOU?
"WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?" [AUDIENCE LAUGHING]
JOYCE: WELL, YOU KNOW WHAT?
WE'RE ALL JUST DIAMONDS IN THE ROUGH.
I'LL TELL YOU WHAT.
WHEN GOD ALLOWED ME INTO FELLOWSHIP WITH HIM, MAN,
I WAS SUCH A MESS.
BUT I HAD POTENTIAL.
[AUDIENCE APPLAUDING]
JOYCE: AND YOU KNOW WHAT?
YOU'VE GOT POTENTIAL.
[AUDIENCE CHEERING]
JOYCE: BUT YOU ALSO GOT SOME STUFF THAT'S GOTTA BE
WORKED OUT.
A LOT OF STUFF, YOU'RE RIGHT, SISTER.
THANK YOU.
I WAS AFRAID TO SAY THAT.
[AUDIENCE LAUGHING]
JOYCE: AND I TELL YOU, GOD USED PEOPLE ON ME.
GOD USED DAVE ON ME.
[AUDIENCE LAUGHING]
JOYCE: AND DAVE WOULD TELL YOU.
IF I HANDED HIM THE MICROPHONE, HE WOULD TELL YOU THAT HE FELT
LIKE ONE OF HIS MAIN JOBS IN MY LIFE WAS TO CRUCIFY MY FLESH.
[AUDIENCE LAUGHING]
JOYCE: I'LL JUST GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE.
LIKE, I MIGHT BE GOING THROUGH SOMETHING REALLY BAD AND I WOULD
GO TO HIM...
[WHINING]
AND HONESTLY, HE WOULD LOOK AT ME SOMETIMES AND SAY, "I AM NOT
GONNA FEEL SORRY FOR YOU."
I MEAN, I WENT WILD INSIDE.
JUST, HOW COULD YOU BE SO MEAN?
HOW COULD YOU BE SO UNCARING?
YOU JUST DON'T HAVE ANY EMOTIONS.
YOU DON'T CARE ABOUT ANYTHING.
[AUDIENCE LAUGHING]
JOYCE: C'MON, HAVE I GOT ANY SISTERS OUT THERE?
[AUDIENCE CHEERING]
JOYCE: YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING FOR MEN IS LOGIC.
"WELL, OF COURSE I LOVE YOU, I WOULDN'T HAVE MARRIED YOU IF
I WOULDN'T HAVE LOVED YOU."
"DON'T I BRING HOME THE PAYCHECK?"
AND, YOU KNOW, IT TOOK ME ABOUT 30 YEARS TO ADMIT IT, BUT--
[AUDIENCE LAUGHING]
JOYCE: REALLY, 'CAUSE HERE'S WHAT HE WOULD SAY, "IF I FEEL
SORRY FOR YOU, IT'S ONLY GONNA KEEP YOU IN THE SAME SPOT."
[AUDIENCE APPLAUDING]
JOYCE: CAN ANYBODY FEEL MY PAIN?
[AUDIENCE CHEERING]
JOYCE: YOU KNOW, LEARNING TO TRUST GOD TOTALLY IS A JOURNEY.
SO PLEASE DON'T LEAVE TODAY AND SAY, "WELL, I WISH I COULD
TRUST GOD.
I REALLY WISH I COULD TRUST GOD."
YOU KNOW, THE TITLE TO THIS SERIES IS
"CHOOSING TO TRUST GOD."
AND YOU MAY HAVE TO SAY 1,000 TIMES WHEN
YOU HAVE A PROBLEM, "GOD I TRUST YOU, I TRUST YOU.
I TRUST YOU.
AND HERE COMES SOME WORRY.
I TRUST YOU."
AND THE DEVIL SAYS IT'S NOT GONNA WORK OUT.
AND YOU OPEN YOUR MOUTH AND SAY IT OUT LOUD, "GOD, I TRUST YOU.
I TRUST YOU.
I TRUST YOU.
GOD, I TRUST YOU.
IF YOU CAN'T HELP ME, WHO CAN?
GOD, I TRUST YOU.
I TRUST YOU."
MALE: CENTRAL DISPATCH UNIT 985.
1022 CREEKSIDE CLOTHING STORE, IN REFERENCE TO AN ASSAULT
THAT JUST OCCURRED.
FEMALE VICTIM, MULTIPLE STAB WOUNDS.
SUSPECT HAS LEFT THE SCENE.
HE'S TO BE CONSIDERED ARMED AND DANGEROUS AT THIS TIME.
KARL: WE STARTED RUNNING TOWARDS THE STORE AND THIS
POLICE OFFICER CAME OUT FROM THAT AREA AND HE SAID, "YOUR
WIFE HAS BEEN STABBED MULTIPLE TIMES."
AND THIS IS WHEN I HEAR A BLOOD-CURDLING SCREAM OUT OF
MY DAUGHTERS AND THEY DROPPED TO THEIR KNEES.
FEMALE: WE JUST HAD SAW HER, LIKE, 3 HOURS BEFORE, PERFECTLY
HAPPY.
AND THEN SHE'S BEING, LIKE, TAKEN ON AIR AMBULANCE TO THE
TRAUMA HOSPITAL AND, LIKE, COULD BE--COULD DIE AND MOST LIKELY
WILL.
FEMALE: I THINK THAT MOM CAME IN CONTACT WITH THE DEVIL.
IT WAS JUST SUCH A--OR EVIL AND IT WAS SUCH A, LIKE, AN EXAMPLE
OF THAT, THAT THE DEVIL IS ALIVE AND WELL.
ANNOUNCER: IT WAS CLOSING TIME.
LENORE WIRTZ WAS WORKING ALONE WHEN ROBERT RICHARDS WALKED
THROUGH THE DOOR.
LOOKING THROUGH RACKS OF CLOTHING, HE BEGAN MOVING CLOSER
AND CLOSER TO HIS VICTIM.
WITHOUT WARNING, HE RAN AT LENORE, PUT HER IN A HEADLOCK,
AND DRUG HER INTO THE BACK STOCKROOM.
THERE, HE BEGAN A VICIOUS AND UNRELENTING ATTACK THAT WOULD
LEAVE THIS MOTHER OF 3 STRANGLED AND STABBED 31 TIMES.
LENORE: I WAS THINKING TO MYSELF, "I AM NOT GOING TO
DIE IN THIS STOCKROOM."
I SAT UP AND I COULDN'T SEE ANYTHING.
ALL THE BLOOD I HAD LOST MADE ME BLIND.
SO I STARTED CRAWLING AND THE FIRST THING OUT OF MY MOUTH,
I WAS SAYING, "JESUS, HELP ME."
I WAS ABLE TO STAND AND I SORT OF FUMBLED MY WAY, JUST FEELING
MY WAY THROUGH THE STORE AND I GOT TO THE FRONT DOOR AND,
AGAIN, I SAID, "JESUS, HELP ME."
MY VISION CLEARED.
I SAW THE LOCK.
I UNLOCKED IT AND I OPENED THE DOOR AND I WAS OUT.
FROM THAT POINT ON, I COULDN'T SEE AGAIN.
KARL: IT'S THE MORNING AFTER.
SHE'S IN THE ICU UNIT AND I'M GONNA GET TO SEE HER SHORTLY AND
I'M THRILLED AND THEN THEY BRING THESE HEALTHCARE WORKERS THAT
COME IN AND THEY SAY, "YOU KNOW, YOU NEED TO UNDERSTAND
SOMETHING.
THAT LIFE FOR YOU IS CHANGED.
YOUR WIFE WILL NEVER BE THE SAME AGAIN.
AND LIFE FOR YOU WILL NEVER BE THE SAME AGAIN.
AND FOR YOUR CHILDREN AND, YOU KNOW, SHE MAY NEVER VENTURE OUT
OF THE HOUSE," AND IT--JUST THE WHOLE EMOTION CHANGED.
AND I JUST WANNA SAY THAT WHEN, YOU KNOW, WE WERE A FEW DAYS
INTO THIS, SHE SAID TO ME SOMETHING THAT WAS SO PROFOUND
AND IT WAS, "I WILL NOT LET THIS DEFINE ME."
AND, YOU KNOW, I'M LOOKING AT HER, ABSOLUTELY RAVAGED, THE
WOUNDS, THEY WERE HORRIBLE.
AND I JUST COULDN'T GET OVER, YOU KNOW, HER STRENGTH TO SAY,
"IT'S A CHOICE.
I'M GONNA BE OKAY.
I AM SO GRATEFUL TO BE ALIVE."
LENORE: I'VE HAD TEARS AND I'VE HAD--I DON'T WANNA MAKE IT
SOUND LIKE I HAVEN'T HAD ANY EMOTIONAL TOUGH TIMES GOING
THROUGH THIS BUT IT'S--THERE--YOU KNOW, WE'VE
BEEN ABLE TO SORT OF PULL OUT OF THAT QUITE QUICKLY BECAUSE I
HAVE A STRONG FAITH, I HAVE A GREAT FAMILY, I WAS GOING TO
HAVE A LOT OF SUPPORT TO GET THROUGH IT, AND ALSO WATCHING
JOYCE MEYER FOR ALL THOSE YEARS BEFORE, I WAS PREPARED TO MAKE
THE CHOICE TO MAKE THE BEST OUT OF THE SITUATION.
IT'S WHAT SAVED MY LIFE.
YOUR THOUGHTS ARE SO POWERFUL.
AND YOU BELIEVE WHAT YOU HEAR YOURSELF SAY.
AND IT IS A CHOICE TO--YOU MIGHT NOT BE FEELING THAT--THE BEST AT
THAT MOMENT BUT IF, LIKE WHAT I'VE HEARD JOYCE MEYER SAY SO
MANY TIMES IS, "WELL, I MIGHT NOT BE WHERE I WANNA BE BUT AT
LEAST I'M NOT WHERE I USED TO BE."
AND THAT WAS HUGE FOR ME AS WELL.
BECAUSE I SUFFERED A LONG TIME.
I'VE HAD 5 SURGERIES IN 4 YEARS AND THEY'RE PAINFUL AND, YOU
KNOW, I SUFFER STILL WITH THE INJURIES BUT I GOT THE ENDING I
WANTED: SURVIVING.
AND SO IT IS YOUR THOUGHTS.
IT'S YOUR--YOU'VE GOTTA STAY POSITIVE AND BELIEVE THAT.
KARL: OUR FAITH IS STRONG AND NOW I--IT'S EVEN STRONGER.
[LAUGHING]
YOU KNOW, YOU RECEIVE A MIRACLE AND YOU REALLY KNOW
YOU'VE BEEN BLESSED WITH A MIRACLE.
YOU NEVER WANNA TAKE THAT FOR GRANTED.
JOYCE: YOU KNOW, SO OFTEN THINGS HAPPEN IN OUR LIFE AND WE
JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND.
THEY JUST SEEM SO UNFAIR AND IT'S, LIKE, C'MON, YOU TELL ME
GOD IS GOOD, WELL, WHAT ABOUT THIS?
AND YOU KNOW, WHEN I WAS A YOUNG KID AND MY FATHER WAS ABUSING ME
SEXUALLY, I MEAN, I PRAYED FOR GOD TO GET ME OUT OF THAT
SITUATION.
HE DIDN'T.
HE COULD HAVE.
GOD'S GOD, HE CAN DO ANYTHING HE WANTS TO.
BUT YOU KNOW, THERE'S EVIL IN THE WORLD AND THERE ARE EVIL
PEOPLE AND GOD SAYS, "I SET BEFORE YOU LIFE AND DEATH.
I WANT YOU TO CHOOSE LIFE BUT IF YOU CHOOSE EVIL, YOU'RE GONNA
REAP THE RESULTS OF IT."
AND WHILE MY FATHER WAS REAPING THE RESULTS OF HIS EVIL, SADLY,
I REAPED SOME OF IT TOO.
BUT THE THING TO ALWAYS REMEMBER, ESPECIALLY IF YOU'VE
BEEN HURT AS A CHILD, DON'T USE WHAT HAPPENED TO YOU AS A CHILD
AS AN EXCUSE TO HAVE A BAD LIFE YOUR WHOLE LIFE.
[AUDIENCE APPLAUDING]
MARK: ST. LOUIS IS A REFUGEE RELOCATION CITY.
BACK IN THE WAR WITH YUGOSLAVIA, WITH SERBIA, BOSNIA, CROATIA,
THERE WAS A LOT OF REFUGEES THAT CAME TO ST. LOUIS,
AND THEY'RE STILL COMING FROM DIFFERENT CITIES
AROUND ST. LOUIS BECAUSE THIS IS THE LARGEST BOSNIAN POPULATION
IN THE WORLD BESIDES BOSNIA.
WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE IN ST. LOUIS, THEY'RE CALLING
HOME, THE REFUGEE FAMILIES ARE CALLING HOME.
THEY'RE EVEN CALLING IN THE REFUGEE CAMPS AROUND THE WORLD
TO SAY, "THE CHRISTIANS ARE HELPING US HERE."
SO WE'RE HERE TO JUST TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY JUST TO SAY
"WELCOME" AND "WE LOVE YOU" IN THE NAME OF JESUS.
SASHA: THIS IS REALLY HELPFUL.
MORE PEOPLE, MORE CHRISTIANS ARE INVOLVED IN THIS.
WE WILL HAVE MORE OF A CHANCE TO MEET WITH THE PEOPLE.
WE WILL HAVE MORE OF A CHANCE TO DISCUSS WITH THE PEOPLE,
WITH THE BOSNIAN COMMUNITY, WITH ANY COMMUNITY,
SO THIS IS REALLY, REALLY HELPFUL.
MARK: FOR JOYCE MEYER MINISTRIES' DREAM CENTER,
ALL THE PEOPLE COMING HERE TOGETHER, THAT'S WHAT
WE WANNA DO.
HAND-IN-HAND, LOVING PEOPLE, STRATEGICALLY GETTING TOGETHER
TO SAY WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY.
AND IF YOU DON'T TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY, YOU'RE GONNA
LOSE IT SOMETIMES.
SO WE GOTTA JUMP IN THERE AND DO WHAT WE CAN DO
TO REACH THE WORLD FOR JESUS RIGHT HERE IN ST. LOUIS.
ANNOUNCER: YOU MEAN MORE TO US AT JOYCE MEYER MINISTRIES
THAN YOU MAY EVER KNOW.
WE APPRECIATE YOU, AND WE THANK OUR FRIENDS AND PARTNERS FOR
MAKING THIS WORLDWIDE MINISTRY POSSIBLE.
TOGETHER, WE'RE FEEDING THE HUNGRY, CLOTHING THE POOR,
AND PRESENTING THE GOSPEL TO THE NATIONS.
PLEASE CONTACT US OR VISIT JOYCEMEYER.ORG TODAY TO SHARE
ANNOUNCER: YOU MEAN MORE TO US AT JOYCE MEYER MINISTRIES MORE ABOUT OUR RESOURCES,
SEE JOYCE'S CONFERENCE SCHEDULE, AND TO JOIN US IN PARTNERSHIP
AS WE SHARE THE LOVE OF CHRIST AROUND THE GLOBE.
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