Hello. It´s me again.
And this video which I will be reacting to
is relatively old. I know that, and I also realise
that there are more pressing issues at hand.
But I just feel like this needs a reaction.
This video was published on 5th April
2016, by the YouTube channel
"ПОСЛЕДНИЕ НОВОСТИ"
WHICH TRANSLATES AS "THE LATEST NEWS."
IT`S THE OFFICIAL YOUTUBE CHANNEL OF
THE RUSSIAN STATE-OWNED TELEVISION CHANNEL "ROSSIYA 24."
THEY HAVE THIS PROGRAM CALLED "ВЕСТИ.DOC"
WHICH CONSISTS MOSTLY OF TALK SHOWS.
SO THIS VIDEO WE WILL BE LOOKING AT IS
THE "ВЕСТИ.DOC" EPISODE FROM APRIL 5,
2016.
THE HOST IS OLGA SKABEEVA.
SO, LET´S TAKE A LOOK.
"THIS IS THE "ВЕСТИ.DOC" PROGRAM, GOOD DAY.
THE NUMBER OF THOSE KILLED, TORN APART, TORTURED TO DEATH, AND BURIED ALIVE
IN THE DONBASS IS, AS YET, UNKNOWN.
THE DOCUMENTARY BY ALEXANDR ROGATKIN IS CALLED "WITHOUT A DATE OF EXPIRATION."
IN TODAY´S EPISODE, WE WILL ALSO SEE THE RUSSOPHOBIC LANDING FORCES IN THE NETHERLANDS..."
IN CASE YOU DON´T KNOW WHAT "RUSSOPHOBIC" AND "RUSSOPHOBIA" ARE,
WE READ ON WIKIPEDIA: "ANTI-RUSSIAN SENTIMENT, OR RUSSOPHOBIA, IS A
DIVERSE SPECTRUM OF NEGATIVE FEELINGS,
DISLIKES, FEAR, AVERSION, AND/OR PREJUDICE OF RUSSIA,
RUSSIANS AND/OR RUSSIAN CULTURE.
ON THE OTHER HAND, RUSSIAN NATIONALISTS,
AND APOLOGISTS OF THE POLITICS OF RUSSIA
OFTEN USE THE ALLEGATIONS OF RUSSOPHOBIA AS A FORM OF PROPAGANDA
TO COUNTER THE CRITICISM OF RUSSIA."
YES, I CAN TESTIFY TO THAT.
ALSO, THE TERM "LANDING FORCES" IS A KIND OF METAPHOR
OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
IT ISN´T REALLY MILITARY. THOSE PEOPLE AREN´T SOLDIERS.
AND I DON´T REALLY SEE HOW USING THE TERM
"LANDING FORCES" TO REFER TO THEM MAKES ANY SENSE
IN ANY WAY WHATSOEVER EXCEPT AS A
MANIPULATION DEVICE.
OH YEAH, AND ABOUT THAT:
YOU CAN CALL ME PETTY OR PARANOID IF YOU LIKE,
BUT CHOICE OF WORDS IN THE MEDIA IS NO LAUGHING MATTER.
IN 1947, VIKTOR KLEMPERER
WROTE IN "THE LANGUAGE OF THE THIRD REICH":
"NO, THE STRONGEST INFLUENCE
WAS NOT ACHIEVED THROUGH SINGULAR SPEECHES,
NOT THROUGH ARTICLES OR FLYERS,
THROUGH POSTERS OR FLAGS.
IT WAS NOT ACHIEVED THROUGH ANYTHING THAT HAD TO BE TAKEN UP
BY CONSCIOUS THOUGHT OR CONSCIOUS FEELING.
THE NAZISM GLIDED INTO THE FLESH AND BLOOD OF THE MASSES
THROUGH THE SINGULAR WORDS, THE EXPRESSIONS,
THE PHRASES WHICH IT FORCED UPON THEM BY MILLIONFOLD REPETITION
AND WHICH WERE TAKEN UP MECHANICALLY AND UNCONSCIOUSLY."
ALSO, WHY THE HELL WOULD A TALK SHOW HOST
NEED TO SCREAM LIKE THAT?
THAT´S EAR RAPE, WHAT SHE´S DOING!
ANYWAY, BACK TO THIS MORONIC TALK SHOW...
"WE WILL TALK ABOUT WHY THE MAIN AGITATOR TOWARDS THE EUROPEANS IN FAVOUR OF UKRAINE
IS THE UKRAINIAN MP ALEXEI GONCHARENKO,
THE ONE WHO BECAME INFAMOUS THROUGH HIS SELFIES
TAKEN IN ODESSA IN FRONT OF PEOPLE WHO HAD BEEN BURNED ALIVE.
AND NOW HE RIDES AROUND AMSTERDAM IN YELLOW-BLUE STOCKINGS [WOT?]
ASKING THE EUROPEANS TO SUPPORT UKRAINE.
ZAKHAR, HOW IS ALL THIS EVEN POSSIBLE?"
"YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT IF THE RUSSIAN SPECIAL FORCES
HAD HIRED THIS MAN AND
AND ASKED HIM TO ACT AS THE MAIN EURO-ASSOCIATOR,
THAT WOULD HAVE GOT HIM A MEDAL, BECAUSE A PERSON WHO
TAKES SUCH PICTURES WITH THE TRADE UNION HQ [BURNED BODIES] IN THE BACKGROUND;
WHO PROPOSED THAT IN CRIMEA, EVERYONE WEARING THE RIBBON OF St. GEORGE SHOULD BE SHOT IN THE HEAD,
A SIMPLY INADEQUATE PERSON, HE
IT´S AS IF A [RUSSIAN SPECIAL FORCES] OFFICER HAD TOLD HIM TO SMEAR BLOOD ON HIS FACE,
PUT ON STOCKINGS, DRIVE TO EUROPE AND CLAIM TO BE PRO-EUROASSOCIATION.
[OPPONENT ATTEMPTING TO INTERRUPT] - DON´T INTERRUPT.
MISTER FROM POLAND.
I THINK THIS IS A HUGE SUCCESS FOR RUSSIAN DIPLOMACY.
IF THAT IS NOT SO [WOT?], A NEGATIVE SELECTION TAKES PLACE IN UKRAINE:
THE MOST DISGUSTING PERSONS -
AS WITH THE EXAMPLE OF [AN MP] FROM YANUKOVYCH´S PARTY, AND THEN HE BECAME THE NUMBER ONE POROSHENKO AGITATOR -
THIS MAN, WHO IS A TURNCOAT, WHO IS A BLOODY MANIAC,
WHO IS INADEQUATE, HE DRIVES TO EUROPE AND ADVOCATES EURO-ASSOCIATION.
I THINK THIS IS A GREAT BIT UF LUCK. THIS IS A HAPPY RESULT."
...WHICH CAN BASICALLY BE SUMMED UP AS:
"IT´S BAD FOR UKRAINE, THEREFORE WE SHOULD BE HAPPY ABOUT IT."
HOW CHARMING.
ALSO, I´D LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT BY SAYING THAT THE
MP WHO WAS CHOSEN TO REPRESENT
THE EURO-ASSOCIATION MOVEMENT
DISCREDITS THAT MOVEMENT,
THIS GUY HAS BASICALLY ADMITTED THAT
PEOPLE LIKE HIM ARE NOT
REPRESENTATIVE OF THE EURO-ASSOCIATION MOVEMENT.
JUST SAYING.
"MAYBE HE JUST IMPROVED!
AFTER ALL, IT IS RUSSIA WHO GIVES US EXAMPLES
OF PEOPLE WHO WENT FROM MILITANT TO PRESIDENT.
ISN´T THAT GOOD?
WHEN PEOPLE THINK ABOUT WHAT THEY ARE DOING
AND START BEING BETTER?
THIS IS ACTUALLY A PRETTY GOOD POINT IN TWO WAYS.
AT LEAST TWO WAYS.
FOR ONE THING - WELL, YES, IF THAT MAN ADVOCATED SHOOTING
ANYONE SPORTING ENEMY SYMBOLOGY IN CRIMEA,
HE IS AN INGLORIOUS
BASTARD.
AND IT IS ARGUABLE WHETHER OR NOT TAKING SELFIES
IN FRONT OF THOSE BURNED PEOPLE WAS IN BAD TASTE.
AND IF SO, TO WHAT EXTENT.
TO WHAT DEGREE, I MEAN.
HOW MUCH SO.
HOWEVER, IF YOU SUPPORT A PRESIDENT WHO HAS
ACTUALLY KILLED PEOPLE
IN THE QUINTUPLE DIGITS,
YOU CRITICISING HIM IS JUST HELLA IRONIC.
I MEAN, YOU SHOULD REALLY QUESTION YOUR MORAL AUTHORITY.
AND THE POLE WAS CORRECT IN THAT VLADIMIR PUTIN
IS A FORMER FSB MAN.
A FORMER SECRET SERVICE AGENT.
AND HE STILL HOLDS ANNUAL SPEECHES
BEFORE THE FSB ON THE ANNIVERSARY
OF THE FOUNDING OF THE KGB.
AN ESTONIAN PRESIDENT CAME UP WITH THIS THOUGHT EXPERIMENT:
HOW WOULD PEOPLE REACT
IF THE GERMAN CHANCELLOR
WERe TO HOLD ANNUAL SPEECHES
BEFORE THE GERMAN SECRET SERVICE
ON THE ANNIVERSARY OF THE FOUNDING OF THE GESTAPO?
SO IF THE STATEMENTS SOMEONE MAKES
ARE ENOUGH TO LABEL THEM AS "INADEQUATE,"
THEN PUTIN HIMSELF IS THE VERY EPITOMY OF INADEQUACY.
ALSO, ANY IMMORAL DEEDS WHICH
A MEMBER OF A GROUP,
EVEN A LEADING MEMBER, MAY HAVE COMITTED
IN THE PAST, ARE ONLY GROUNDS ENOUGH TO
BE SUSPICIOUS OF THAT GROUP.
THEY DO NOT WARRANT CONDEMNING THAT GROUP.
- IN THIS CASE, THE PEOPLE WHO WENT TO THE NETHERLANDS -
TO DO THAT, YOU FIRST HAVE TO LOOK AT
WHAT THAT GROUP IS DOING AT PRESENT.
AND THE PURPOSE OF THIS SHOW IS OBVIOUSLY
TO CONDEMN THE EURO-ASSOCIATION MOVEMENT.
SO I HOPE THEY OFFER GOOD GROUNDS TO DO SO.
"I´M ADRESSING YOU NOW. WOULD YOU FORGIVE THE PERPETRATORS
OF THE VOLHYNIAN MASSACRE IF THEY WERE TO MEND THEIR WAYS?"
...WHAT? WHAT?
THIS DOESN´T EVEN HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE QUESTION!
DURING THE VOLHYNIAN MASSACRE,
MEMBERS OF THE POLISH ETHNIC MINORITY
IN UKRAINE WERE MURDERED.
YOU´RE GONNA COMPARE THAT TO THIS GUY WHO WENT TO THE NETHERLANDS
MAKING A COUPLE OF STRONG STATEMENTS?
BUT OKAY, LET´S SAY HE WANTED A STRONG, EXTREME EXAMPLE.
THEN THIS STATEMENT STILL DOESN´T MAKE ANY SENSE
BECAUSE THE QUESTION HERE IS NOT WHETHER YOU CAN FORGIVE THE PERSON
ON A PERSONAL, EMOTIONAL LEVEL,
THE QUESTION IS TO WHAT EXTENT
THIS EURO-ASSOCIATION CAMPAIGN PROJECT
IS DISCREDITED BY THE PARTICIPATION OF
THIS PARTICULAR MAN.
AND ASIDE FROM THAT, OF COURSE YOU SHOULD bE FORGIVEN IF YOU HAVE CHANGED!
YOU´RE PRACTICALLY A dIFFERENT PERSON.
YOU SHOULD STILL BE PUNISHED FOR THE DEED, OF COURSE,
BUT
YOU SHOULD NOT BE JUDGED BY IT.
ANYWAY, PLEASE TELL ME HOW THIS QESTION MAKES
ANY SENSE WHATSOEVER AND WHAT PURPOSE IT COULD POSSIBLY HAVE
EXCEPT TO THROW THE POLISH MAN OFF TRACK BY BRINGING UP A SUBJECT
WHICH HE IS EMOTIONALLY VULNERABLE TO.
"YES OR NO?"
-"Don´t interrupt."
"I ASKED YOU A CONCRETE QUESTION. YES OR NO?"
- "My stance on the Volhynian massacre - my country´s stance -" - "WELL WHAT IS IT?"
- "Your country´s -" -"WELL WHAT IS YOUR STANCE?"
"WHAT IS YOUR STANCE?"
"My stance is that it is part of a very complicated past
which is in the past."
- "In the present -" - "THAT IS TO SAY, -"
"... YOU SPIT ON THE REMAINS OF ALL THE POLES WHO DIED BECAUSE OF THAT SCUM!"
"WELL!"
"NOT THIS ONE, PERSONALLY,
BUT THE ONES HE REVERES!"
"This is shameless manipulation!"
"Never again shall anyone spark conflict between us and Ukraine!" -"Don´t shout"
"Because that [Ukraine] is a country of our slavic brothers!"
YOU HAVE TO ADMIRE THIS MAN BECAUSE HE´S SO SENSIBLE.
THERE´S THIS BITTER CONFLICT BETWEEN POLES AND UKRAINIANS
OVER BANDERA, THE UPA AND THE VOLHYNIAN MASSACRE.
IT´S JUST SO UNNECCESSARY BECAUSE
WE COULD SPEND A LOT OF TIME ARGUING ABOUT
THE HISTORICAL OCCURRENCE ITSELF,
THE WIKIPEDIA ARTICLE
IN THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE
IS PRETTY ONE-SIDED. IF YOU LOOK AT THE SOURCES THEY CITE,
THEY´RE ABOUT 70% POLISH SOURCES
- IF NOT 80% -
- WHICH IS NOT TO SAY THAT THE AVERAGE UKRAINIAN´S
POSITION ON THIS IS CORRECT EITHER.
IN ANY CASE,
YOUR AVERAGE UKRAINIAN WHO LOOKS BACK FONDLY ON THE UPA
DOES NOT REMEMBER IT AS THIS ORGANIZATION
WHICH KILLED POLES,
SO IT´S JUST SO UNNECCESSARY TO ARGUE ABOUT THIS...
OH, BY THE WAY, DID YOU NOTICE HOW
WHEN THE POLISH MAN SHOUTED
TO BE HEARD, TO MAKE HIS POINT,
THE HOST TOLD HIM NOT TO SHOUT,
BUT RIGHT BEFORE THAT, WHEN HIS OPPONENT HAD BELLOWED tHIS WHOLE SPEECH
JUST FOR THE HECK OF IT, JUST TO PRETEND HE
WAS ACTUALLY EMOTIONAL ABOUT THE SUBJECT,
SHE DIDN´T CARE?
...BUT SHE´S NOT BIASED!...
ANYWAY, LET´S LISTEN TO SOME MORE OF THIS TALK SHOW.
LET´S PASS THE WORD TO ALESYA. ALESYA,
WHY DID YOU CHOOSE THIS MAN, WHO, AS WE KNOW,
AFTER THE TRAGEDY IN ODESSA, SAID THAT AT LAST
PEOPLE HAD STOOD UP TO SEPARATISM?
AND TOOK PICTURES OF HIMSELF WITH BURNED BODIES IN THE BACKGROUND?
YOU SAY THAT LIKE IT´S SUCH A TERRIBLE THING!
I MEAN, YOU CAN CRITICISE IT,
SURE, BUT
CALM THe FUCK DOWN!
I MEAN, YOU´VE GOT
FAKE EMOTIONS SPRAYING OUT OF YOUR EARS!
PLEASE TELL ME WHAT WAS SO TERRIBLY WRONG WITH TAKING PICTURES OF THOSE CORPSES!
I DON´T SEE HOW HE WAS DESECRATING THEM OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT JUST BY PUBLISHING PICTURES OF tHEM.
HE WAS DOCUMENTING THE AFTERMATH OF AN EVENT
WHICH CONCERNED THE PEOPLE.
MAYBE IT WAS IN BAD TASTE TO PUT HIMSELF IN THE PICTURES, BECAUSE
THAT MADE THEM INTO, TECHNICALLY, SELFIES.
WHICH MAY NOT HAVE BEEN RESPECTFUL ENOUGH
OR APPROPRIATE FOR THAT SITUATION.
BUT, HELL, HE´S A POLITICIAN! HE HAS TO ADVERTISE
BY STICKING HIS FACE INTO EVERY SHOT OF EVERYTHING.
WELCOME TO THE DOG-EAT-DOG WORLD OF POLITICS.
AND AS FOR HIS STATEMENT THAT THEY FINALLY MANAGED TO STAND UP TO SEPARATISM,
WELL, THE ODESSA TRAGEDY INVOLVED A
PEACEFUL PRO-UKRAINIAN DEMONSTRATION
BEING ATTACKED BY AN ARMED
PRO-RUSSIAN MOB.
WHO´S TO SAY HOW IT WOULD HAVE ENDED
IF NOT FOR THE PRESENCE OF AN ARMED GROUP
KNOWN AS THE "SELF-DEFENCE OF THE MAIDAN"?
...WHO CAME WITH THe PRO-UKRAINIAN DEMONSTRATION.
THE DEMONSTRATION WHICH, BY THE WAY, CONSISTED MOSTLY OF FOOTBALL FANS.
SO YEAH, MAYBE HE SHOULD HAVE EXHIBITED MORE sORROW OVER
THE DEATHS THAT HAD OCCURRED.
HOWEVER, YOU CAN HARDLY REPROACH HIM FOR BEING GLAD
THAT THE DEMONSTRATION, WITH THE AID OF THIS ARMED ORGANIZATION,
HAD BEEN ABLE TO PROTECT ITSELF.
I WILL PUT A LINK IN THE DESCRIPTION TO A DETAILED ACCOUNT
- WITH PICTURES -
OF THE ODESSA TRAGEDY, PUBLISHED ON
THE NEXT DAY AFTER IT HAD OCCURRED.
BUT ANYWAY, I THINK THAT´S ENOUGH FOR THIS VIDEO, I
WILL pROBABLY MAKE A PART TWO,
GOODBYE.
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