Friday in class and in the in the and their workshop that you gave I think
your your theme was mobility and flexibility mm-hmm and that which was
very interesting he had never ever pondered that the difference I never
really dug that deep into that and it was very very interesting and I wanted
to ask you in terms of being seasoned
practitioners as Billy Konrad would say but even more so um what what is
mobility and flexibility mean for a practitioner that's 20 or 30 years old
as opposed to somebody that's 60 um well first of all like in Friday night's
class I was trying to just define the terms that I was using because they're
these terms are used synonymously I've used them synonymously too but I don't
think they they don't mean the same thing and at least not in movement
science so I first of all I wanted to just be clear on the way I was using the
language and that that that flexibility like there's something different there's
a difference between active ranges of motion and passive ranges of motion like
how you could move at a joint range of motion like what it's capable of doing
and so passive ranges of motion you know when you take your belt or somebody
moves your leg and they come and they adjust you or you just move your arm
with your other arm versus your arm being able to go there itself you know
and you're able to engage you're you know you're able to handle load you're
able to be active and generate force even in those ranges of motion so that
is mobility flexibility is just how far something can be moved not how far you
can move it itself like your leg pick it up itself rather than pulling it up with
a strap okay so and stability so that was other pieces that in certain sense
stability and mobility are kind of the same thing because
mobility the definition I was using is your ability to control your movement
right how whatever range of motion that you're doing moving in that you can
control that mm-hmm you know you have the ability to engage
the muscles you can move the limb by itself stability being your ability to
control your movement stability being your ability to return to a certain
joint configuration or orientation after something's disturbed you a perturbation
or you know like if you're in tree pose the stability isn't holding the pose the
stability is your ability to sense when you you know because the body there's
always movement your heart's beating your breathing there's always movement
you know that everything's and it's dynamic balance is a dynamic thing
stability is a dynamic thing so and to me like I mean I've you know to have
different opinions at different times but right now I just don't see it as so
different like when you're that well maybe at this time in my life I have
more appreciation I certainly do have more appreciation
for um mobility as defined as your capacity to stay strong in your ranges
of motion because a lot of the injuries that I've seen as a teacher things that
you know have happened to me have come from the opposite of just trying to
either bend more go further or in some cases a teacher moving my body yes
that's happened and and I am NOT I just don't I just don't find that like I'm
interested in useful ranges of motion I'd like yeah I definitely use a you
know strap to do certain poses and I don't have a problem with that and
working on passive ranges of motion is good too it's not like it's bad but I do
think that that as we age that sometimes there's a
greater appreciation for strength and that that you that being strong in a
wider range of motion is desirable it's helpful you can do more things you can
you know you're capable of moving and you know hiking and running and dancing
and doing your yoga and you don't have to like try to keep everything safe and
protected and you know like your body isn't is some fragile thing because it
really isn't it's a robust it's it's self-regulating it's resilient if we
nurture that if we support that do you know right practice in a way - yes and
and I think sometimes when we're young and you know in her 20s or something
we just don't um you know there hasn't been enough stuff that's gone wrong you
know what I mean like for some yeah but you know that's the thing like you just
live long enough then I'm not that old but I'm in my 50s and stuff happens you
know that just like I said on Friday night rest assured stuff happens and
there's I think in a I have an appreciation for keeping myself as
engaged with the whole thing you know and living and and supporting that
supporting my body in that supporting my mind and that learning new things I
think is really important getting out of your comfort zone you know and like not
just saying oh it's because I'm getting older like I just don't like yeah it's
it's I there was a passage that vacants Oh talked about about that that's so
inspiring because you know he says it like it is it's it's you've got to be
courageous yeah and he also infamously said I am NOT a quitter yeah
not a stopper you know he just didn't he just and look he was in his 90s and he
was still chest like child like seriously like a child that open and his
eyes really sharp and his mind sharp and you know wow like he was interested and
involved and engaged right up to the end of his life that is to me that's
something - yeah with you know and not everyone's going to be for you know
there's lots of different things that can come along and disrupt that but um
but still no matter have that nature to begin with yeah
but I think it's something we cultivate I think it's something we can cultivate
you know to be present and engaged with things as they are but you know they're
I think you can have a sense of possibility and acceptance at the same
time like I don't think acceptance is resignation i but I also think that
things will fist everything is always changing that's true right so we do have
some say in the direction of some of that change mm-hmm you know so staying
engaged and making choices based on values that you choose and not you know
that the and sometimes just doing something you know people say don't do
that but you're like maybe you want to so go for it you know because really
this is it like maybe maybe this is it exactly and then and this might be the
last yeah it might be that it might take that movement it might be that amplitude
yeah absolutely and and that's something that I've said to my students on a
couple of occasions and they they've looked at me like I'm it's really
macabre you know the way that I'm talking about it no it's no it's not
that yeah cause I remember when you know I
broke my I broke my foot and and having taken for granted being able to walk up
those stairs every day oh yeah and all of a sudden you can't
and it's like oh damn okay well my leg could have been cut off
right that it would have been over and then what you know it's so it's it's
yeah being able to to be able to taste that every day
yeah see how far you can swing out and then see how resilient you are when
things do happen and that there is a way there is you see amazing practitioners
and people who have like had limbs amputated and there have had devastating
cancer surgeries and just all kinds of stuff and they're practicing and they're
um they blow your mind you know they what they're able to do and traveling
all kinds of stuff you know I need to say you know people can they are capable
of so much more you know we are all are and it doesn't mean you know we're not I
think if it's a lot of self compassion as necessary actually because you have
to give yourself permission to to be awkward to fail to struggle to you know
to ask for help to you know to anything you're not gonna beat yourself up when
it does when you're still like he's trying to get it you know it's it's not
easy but what other choice do we have really you know we're gonna be full in
whatever we do and I think that's what I really learned from be kissing guards to
be full in in whatever you do to bring your heart to it to bring your mind to
it your body to it to bring the totality of yourself to whatever you're doing
like whatever you're doing you know and and that that's that brings energy
that's you know that just that brings joy and it's and I think he's an example
of what you know of what that is what was you know he had a very full life yes
yes what speaking of him in his life and then his death in August of 2014
what has shifted since his death in terms of the tradition of Iyengar yoga
in the world mm-hmm as far as you can see it yeah I feel
like it's you know I think it's just like the lifecycle
it's sort of at like I think back when we in the New York City when we lost our
senior teacher years married on when she died in 2008 and how our community had
to grow up kind of you know it's like mom's gone you know and and and that
like having lost my father and my brother and I had to move my mom into an
assisted living facility that was another challenge that we had and I
think that these things and then when Guruji died it feels like it's this is
the thing that we all have to do we just carry on and we grow up and we you know
we honor and appreciate the those that have come before us and what they taught
us and the life that they gave us and but then you have to grow into being all
it's like generative then your role is to support others do you know to grow
like for me as a teacher to help younger generations of teachers grow into their
adulthood as a teacher and that it's just to continue it's a it's a cycle
it's continuous so I think we're growing up I think I mean certainly that I'm
like their teachers that have been we're much closer you know they were close to
be cast on there and I'm and they're in their you know 70s and 80s now and they
might have a different perspective on it but I feel like there's it's kind of
like adolescence or something do you know because we're maybe later than that
you know like it's sort of where you're kind of at this precipice of teenage
with the oldest one that has - yeah there's been a young uns you know like
and you realize oh wait okay we're always gonna be learning
that's in this is you're always gonna be learning it's always gonna be beginning
that it should be actually that you're always beginning beginner always do you
know and that the learning doesn't stop just because you finished grade school
or high school or college you know the learning doesn't stop at that point and
so the learning is gonna keep going and even when the teacher is gone do you
know when that teacher is gone because the teachers are everywhere and the
teachings are everywhere and so but there's a but there's a growing into
that realization that you have to be self-reliant in a way you have to
initiate your own plan of how you're going to continue to grow and how you're
gonna continue to learn and you're gonna you know support yourself in that right
um you know do that course online if that's like I like to study but as I
travel a lot I have people mentor I work with the New York and then I do a lot of
work studying you know biomechanics and you know just I'm very interested in the
in the body and and and body mind relationship and connections so I have
to keep that Saadat of that piece which is different than my practice totally
they're related but yeah you have to keep initiating your own growth and
challenging yourself in that and I think you can't be dependent on your teacher
parent telling you what to do to practice to practice this to practice
that no you have to like have some self direction you know and it doesn't mean
that you're not also seeking and and and taking in information from other sources
of course that's essential that's so important and to open one's mind to
different perspectives really important and I think that's maybe too
what happens is that we kind of you kind of open your eyes for the whole world
out here and there's a whole you know what if there's these important things
and I think there are really important things
in that younger yoga how does that get transmitted now how do we do that how do
we keep transmitting what each one of us might see is the important thing because
I'm sure everybody sees something different there's always another view
the elephant you know but whatever you feel was really important in his legacy
you know and then in Iyengar yoga like how are you gonna transmit that to
people who don't know who because anger was don't care do you know what I mean
they just they're like I don't know how many people tell me that I say the name
and they jump they're like who's that I'll say light on yoga they're like
what's that you know and and then then it's like okay wow you know it so
stepping up to the plate you know what I mean and continuing to study and learn
and hold that and you know educate yourself and then communicate it in a
way where it's has an impact on people that's a lot of responsibility and but I
think it's our responsibility now that because say anger is gone because we
can't just defer or just like you know not ask ourself the harder questions
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