*ukelele music* There it is! Oh my gosh! So, we just arrived at YALC and it's amazing!
We waited for about 45 mins in the queue. It was slow (got wristbands) but we're HERE and we're just
in a queue for goodie bags, I think it is, I don't know. The floor is over there, so
we'll go and explore later! *squeals and background excitement*
We just went to the Penguin stall and picked up some of the ARCS they had over there. So this one is
The Mortal Coil and I'm not sure who's it's by - it doesn't say anywhere on the book but
this came up on NetGalley so it's really cool to see it and it has
sprayed edges so it's like a full red brick. Next we have The Truth and Lies of Ella Black
which is Emily Barr's new book. She wrote The One Memory of Flora Banks which I really loved
so it's great to find this and then one
we really weren't expecting to see but is, like, the most exciting
is Undercover Princess by Connie Glynn. We've heard her talking about it on
her Nooderella YouTube channel and it's about a boarding school and, I assume, princesses
so, it just sounds magical and I can't believe it's here. Bee: There's Carys! What have you got?
Carys: The Hazel Wood, The Truth and- The Emily Barr one. The one by Connie and this which is apparently
reminiscent of Stranger Things, which I enjoyed. Bee: Okay, go back, go back! Carys: Something on there written by
will.i.am, which I didn't pick up. Bee: No, c'mon. This is Penguin's booth and they've got loads
of beautiful posters in the back. That /was/ their ARC table. It's now, like, completely
decimated. And then they're serving lemonade for Juniper Lemon('s Happiness Index) And then the
Waterstone's is over there. This is My Kinda Book, and we already
picked up Stephanie Perkins' new book. They have bunch of stuff on the floor
that's a free-for-all and loads of beautiful posters. Maddie: I'm dazed. Dazed and crazed.
Bee: then the queue to get in is already huge! *ukelele music* M: Thank you very much! A book!
B: You got a book! *laughter* Mel Salisbury: The brilliantly funny, Tom Ellen and Lucy Ivison. They're the authors of Lobsters, Never Evers,
and Freshers which is out in August next month and I've already had the pleasure of reading it and I encourage you strongly
to do the same. To the left, to the left, I have Kath Corr and Liz Corr, authors of fantasy trilogy
The Witch's Kiss, Witch's Tears and The Witch's Blood which is due out in March next year, I believe.
Lucy: Can I just stop you? Did you just say your name is (pronounced) Salsbree? Mel: Yes, that's how it's pronounced.
Lucy: I didn't know that. I thought it was Sal-is-bree. Mel: You know so little about me.
Mel: Traditionally, I think writing is something quite lonely, a solo activity, but you guys obviously write together, so
how is that? What made you decide to write together? Lucy: Tom Ellen? Tom: I'll field that one. For us it was just-
We both knew we liked writing and we were friends and
we thought it would be fun to just have a project to do together. Almost just like a hobby. Instead of going to play tennis, or something
We'd just hang out and write. Lucy: We would NEVER play tennis. Tom: I don't even know why I said tennis. Don't think I've ever played tennis in my life.
Lucy: If we're ever stuck on a particular part of the book sometimes we'll do this thing, like, right, right, right, let's
split apart for ten minutes and you try like, three lines and different ways of doing it
and I'll try different ways of doing it and then we have a competition.
Katherine: I'm not sure about Liz, but my real drive for writing
with my sister is that I'm far too lazy to write on my own. For years and years, I tried
to write books and I got to the first few chapters and I thought, 'I'll just go back and edit over and over and over again.'
So I never actually finished anything. Liz: Yeah, and I was always very good at ending, so we had a beginning and an ending, just not the middle.
K: So, when we write together we actually get the middle, which is good! L: I think I wanted to start
being a writer because I didn't want to be a lawyer anymore. *laughter* It was more fun, so I asked her to help me.
Mel: How do you write? Side by side,
through the postal service, email collaboration? What is the process?
K: We usually start by dividing up the chapters. I write way faster than she writes.
L: Not necessarily better! *laughter* K: Not better, just with more volume. So we start off, allegedly, like that
but then we just write the bits that we like. Then we red-line each other's stuff and get into arguments on Twitter.
L: Yesterday we had an argument.
K: Can I include a dragon? L: We do a lot of editing on the phone, actually.
K: But I don't like her sitting next to me because she reads over my shoulder and I want to beat people to death
who read over my shoulder. Mel: I'm a little bit worried about you sitting next to each other now. Let's do a bit of a swap.
Tom: We play an elaborate game of consequences basically. To start a book, we'll sit down together and say, 'Right, here's
broadly what it's going to be about and 4 or 5 things we know will happen.
and then we go away, and just email stuff. Lucy: Yeah, we don't really plan our books.
I know other people do plan their books, which may be wise, but we just talk about stuff.
When we were writing Freshers we just had a conversation about what first year was like
and went back to our university, I read my old diaries from the time,
and we listened to music and really tried to remember what it was like,
what we were feeling at that time, and we just go with the feeling and start writing the book
rather than the plot. Tom: which doesn't make our books sound any good. Lucy: Make them sound better! Tom: That's the exciting thing about collaboration
is that you don't know what, you know, if you're writing by yourself, you might surprise yourself occasionally, but it's never going to be
as surprising as writing with another person. There have been times when I thought the story was going
a certain way and I'll email something to Lucy and I'm like 'what the hell? why has that person done that?' K: Why has that person suddenly inserted a dragon?
Tom: Yes, that happens a lot in our books! Liz: We were, what were we having a conversation about? Mel: Conversation?
L: Yes, well, it was a- Mel: Smack down. L: fight. Well, we have to plan everything otherwise we find that
this one goes off. She goes AWOL. I wrote one chapter and she wrote the next
and in between the two chapters, one of the main character's eyeballs disappeared. *laughter* K: They were going to get them back, don't worry! L: We have to plan, or these things happen.
Mel: Do you have serious disagreements when you're writing?
How do you tackle that when it happens, because it must!
Lucy: Yeah, I mean, not - I would describe Tom as a passive aggressive person. Tom: Yep.
L: and I would describe myself as an openly aggressive person. Tom: That's correct as well, yeah.
L: So when we fall out, Tom usually says things like, 'uh, are you, do you think that's, like, I mean, what do you?' T: 'Are you sure that's a good idea?'
L: And I'll be like 'What are you trying to say?' T: We never fall out about big things, like major plot points, it's always
really tiny, little one line things. Like jokes. Lucy will be like 'I've written this really hilarious joke'
and I'll be like 'it doesn't work!' And then that will become quite the source of arguments.
L: We fall out over grammar because my grammar is really, really bad. Kath: Liz's grammar is really bad. Tom: If you're the good grammar person, you're just
basically a spellchecker. Lucy: And every time, he's just like
'why don't you just learn how to lay out the dialogue. Just learn how to do it.' But, it's a mystery to me!
Mel: What about you guys? I suspect you've had one or two disagreements. L: I think we're firmly divided into the killing people off
and the trying to save them camp. That's our main source of disagreement, I think. Kath's always like 'how about we burn them?'
K: I like to be creative. *laughter* But, we do argue about grammar. Somebody doesn't really have any.
L: What do I always say and you're always correcting me? K: Less or fewer! She's always like 'uhh, less.'
K: Too many commas. L: And exclamation marks. T: (to Lucy) You hate exclamation marks. Lucy: Hate exclamation marks.
Mel: Can we have a show of hands, who likes exclamation points? Tom: I quite like them! Mel: Get out.
Lucy: No, because it sounds like: 'she was dead!' *laughter* Tom: Not after 'she's dead!' Lucy: It makes everything comedy.
Like, are you really doing that? Tom: Is that really what you do when you read an exclamation point?
Lucy: That's what it's supposed to do, I think.
Mel: Has there ever been a point where maybe you wanted to throw the towel in and stop writing together? Has there ever been
that scary point of 'I can't do this anymore with this person'?
Lucy: I am a woman, a teacher and a person of empty threats. I say a lot, like, to various people.
I once went out with someone - it wasn't Tom, though we did used to date -
And he was like 'but you said you'd never forgive me for as long as you lived and you
would die thinking about it.' And I was like 'About what?' *laughter* So I get that way
where I say overdramatic things and then Tom will say 'why are you being so dramatic about it?'
and I'm like 'this is how I feel, NOW, in this moment.' and then I forget about it,
um, really instantly like a child. Would you say that's accurate? Tom: Unfortunately, yes,
and that's why it's quite difficult being in a collaboration with Lucy Ivison.
I remember when we were writing our first book, which I guess is a first book thing, because we didn't know it was
going to get published - I remember feeling like 'is this worth it? should we stop now?'
But that wasn't because we were collaborating. That's the thing-
Lucy: That was about you wanting to go on a stag do. *laughter* That's what that was about. You were like
'I just don't think we just do it anymore?' And I was like, 'why because of the stag do?'
and you don't want to do it?' And you were like 'Ummm, yeah.' Tom: Is that actually true? Lucy: I believe so.
Tom: I think being in a collaboration is quite good for those moments,
Because if you're writing by yourself, you could throw in the towel, but when you've got someone
chivvying you along, that's when it helps. K: We know too much about each other
to ever say to other one we could do it, because we've got too much dirt.
Maddie: So, we just finished going to the Collaboration panel,
which was the first one of the morning and it had the Corr Sisters and then
Tom Ellen and Lucy Ivison, and it was amazing! B: It was hilarious! M: We managed to film a
little bit of it but afterwards it just descended into jokes and anecdotes,
about their own writing process, and because we
want to write together, it's always great hear other perspectives from joint authors. There's the Corr Sisters
And then Tom and Lucy are in there, and
we're here in the queue. We're just waiting to get Freshers signed and then
I don't really know what our schedule is from then. Tom: (after reading a joke about interning) Now that I say it, maybe it's not that funny. M: No it was hilarious.
Lucy: You really didn't deliver it. B: You're playing it down. Tom: Yeah, *laughs*
So, we're just sat down now, and we have a bit of time to kill until our next thing,
about half an hour, and then after that we've only got one signing to go to and
then it's lunch. Carys can get in the shot, yeah!
M: So, how's it been so far, ladies? B: Good, really good. The beginning was frantic, and kind of - I didn't realise
it was going to be like that. But then I feel, once we went to that panel, and signings, I was like 'oh this is how
the weekend is going to work and it'll be fine.' C: Yeah, definitely! M: Look how many bags we have, as well.
We've got bags galore because we only turned up with one each and now we have
about three tote bags. Carys: Three tote bags! M: They've done the book wall that appeared last year and it's
really really fabulous. Can you just imagine if our library was this and we just had books
tied with ribbons? They've got really cute ones and that's what it looks like further down. And we're just sat there.
M: So, because me and Bee picked up two copies of the fandom, I'm going to put this one
down and pick up Eden Summer. That was the one that we wanted! You have made your swap.
C: It's like mystery, murder. M: Hopefully, you'll enjoy it more than your other book.
M: Just waiting for her number to be called with Rebel of the Sands, because it's a big queue.
It's the queue behind that one that just looks like a mob of people. Queues have already started
forming for the signings that are happening in half an hour and Juno Dawson has
arrived with a new beautiful mermaid hair.
B: (Traitor to the Throne) was my favourite. Alwyn: Aww, thank you so much. Because, everyone warns you about your second book,
like 'it's so hard, so scary' and I'm like 'I had fun writing Traitor, did I mess up?'
B: The tone was different, I liked how it was more subtle and the politics were coming through. A: Thank you!
A: I always think of trilogies, especially YA trilogies, a bit like Star Wars, where the first one is
A New Hope, and it's all explosions and you have to blow up the Death Star, and the second one
is a bit quieter, it's more Empire Strikes Back. So just making sure I spelled your name correctly, because I get distracted
and I might have signed it To Empire Strikes Back, because that's the word I just said!
B: Are you excited for the cover reveal of Hero at the Fall?
A: Ahh, it's so pretty and I can say that and not sound brag-y, because I had nothing to do with it.
They showed it to me and were like 'any comments?' and I was like 'nope, that's amazing!'
So, we're currently in some down time for YALC now, we've got some downtime
before our next signing/panel starts, so what we have done: I just went to go get my
book signed by Alwyn Hamilton. There was a huge queue and then I got a virtual
ticket so I had to wait quite a while to do that. M: and then I managed to pick up -
you can't really see the title because it's translucent, but I picked up a sampler of
Clean by Juno Dawson, and her queue was like dead, there was only
one person ahead of me, so I thought I'll run and get her to sign this because we've got everything else signed.
So, that's what that looks like! And apparently she talked about something
else, like, another sampler maybe of hers, that was going to be dropping as well
so I'll keep my eye out over the weekend. She said to me to bear with the main character who is a
little bit hard to like and I think that's in response to the video that we did
reviewing all of her books because we didn't really like the main character of
All of the Above because she was unlikeable. So that was cute and funny.
So, we're just waiting for our second panel of the day to start which is Writing What You Know, and it's a
bunch of contemporary authors that are all going to be signing straight away which
is going to be fun. Bee's just ran to the Walker stall to see if she can get a
copy of The Good Days Pact before Alison Goodman's signing which will hopefully still be
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(Captions for this panel to come) So we just finished going to the panel on Writing What You Know and there were so many
authors on there, so it was really great to get that mixture of having, like, a very select few and then a big range.
You've already seen the footage for that. Now we're waiting in the queue for Katherine Webber
to get Wing Jones signed. It was super sweet that she was chairing the panel, but also contributing to the conversation.
I felt like I got a good amount of Katie Webber in that panel too!
Katie: Ah! It's good to see you! M: Great to see you too! Katie: Good, I saw your little smiling faces in the event.
I was like 'oh, hello!' M: I still think about [Wing] and it's been 7 months since I read it. K: I'm so glad!
B: I have read it since! K: Yay! M: We both really loved it it. K: That's so nice.
M: And now we hear you're writing something with Kevin [her husband]? K: That's right. It's for younger kids, aged 6-9, but it's still fun.
Non Pratt: Thank you so much for that review. M: Thank you for writing Seren! She's the first female
ace character I've read about and felt such a kinship with.
N: I really liked the way you analysed Claire's reactions to it, because you were just like 'that's not cool' and I was like 'I know!
She meant to be okay with this.' and when she's like 'oh, you spend too much time on Tumblr', that's things that people have said to me about it!
It's not just on Tumblr, it's in real life!!
And I'm signing to both of you? M: Yeah! Everyone was on the same page [with the ace rep.]
Non: What I would like is to see more centralised ace characters because there's not enough!
I'm really angry about it! M: You're part of the cause now. N: I know, and I get angry when people get excited about
it because it shouldn't be a big deal. There should just be more characters, and everyone's like 'you wrote a side characters'
and I want to write a main character now, which I will!
So, I'm going to write - because I can flip it - one side to one person, and one to the other.
B: Nice idea! N: Just 'cause I can! Now I've got a flip book, I want to do everything with it. Make it as exciting as possible.
*stamping* I'll do the stamps first. M: Did you write it in that order or alternate?
N: I did [in that order] because my other books swap narrators all the way through, but for this, it didn't work.
Claire was the person that wanted to talk. So I was like, 'right, I just need to get it out.' I had to do it this way round.
It was a lot easier doing it like that. M: Did you watch a lot of YouTube videos for research? Was that the best part?
N: I'm really bad at writing at talking! You think I would have learned how to do this by now.
Yeah, because I'd just be spending all my time on YouTube, watching videos and being like
'this is work! I'm watching Dan and Phil, FOR WORK.' M: The perfect excuse to do that!
It was funny because I did basically realise - and I'd watch a few tutorials on setting up a channel - it's SO much work. I'v e gossiped to you too long! See you soon!
B: At the front, you said about Georgette Heyer, and I had to read some of her books for a Guilty Pleasures module for uni,
and I thought, 'Yeah, the one thing missing from this is demons!' Alison: They make everything better!
B: So, I really loved it. M: You can bring it up in the seminar. B: Yeah, suggest we read this instead!
A: Well, when I was thinking about what I wanted to write it was basically Georgette Heyer meets Buffy.
Actually, my next project has twin sisters as protagonists. B: Oh wonderful! We'll definitely read it then!
*ukelele music over cute photo slideshow*
Emily Barr: [about ARCs] When I got here they were all piled up on the table. I wondered round, come back and there were two left!
M: I must feel fantastic though, that people really want it. E: It really does!
B: Which of the two was hardest to write? Was it more of like, second YA book that was trickier?
E: Both were really hard! With this one [Ella] I'm reading through proof pages for spelling mistakes but I'm still editing!
I can't help myself and I know publishers hate that.
But I'm just going to change one little thing...With Flora, I knew what it was going to be when I started writing it.
Ella changed quite a lot. I was thinking 'Or this could happen!' and then back we go.
B: Does it have the same sort of twists and turns? E: Yes, it does. This one's more dark...
M: *laughter* Just leave it at that. E: If you're okay with things being dark, then it'll be fine. M: Thank you so much!
B: Look at this professional set up. *laughter* M: Waffle tripod.
B: Dedicated to our craft. C: These are the lengths we go to.
B: So the last thing we filmed was meeting Emily Barr, and then after
that we joined the Karen M. McManus queue and then we like lingered around a bit
and I say in like the last hour and a half the whole small was like really dead.
M: yeah, publishers started collapsing
their [stalls] and, like, hiding all of the arcs that they've saved for the weekend which
we were very tempted to steal. C: They were just leaving them in two stacks with no one
guarding the stall. B: The book that we're talking about that we desperately want
is The Exact Opposite of Okay which is being published by Egmont in the beginning
of 2018, so it's like a really early thing and they're only giving out 25 copies in
batches and there are only like two flash giveaways in the day. C: the person in front
of me got the last one and I just looked at the woman in aisle like... M: I mean, I
think half the reason why people want it is because they see other people wanting it
like, that definitely seems to be the culture around arcs. If there are, like, five
plus people a stall it attracts way more people that if it's just one. C: yeah, you might just see people running and being like 'oh, what's that?'
B: We also didn't get to film the mad ARC dash
that we had in the beginning. The rest of the day was, like, quite gentle and
moving from signing or panel or whatever, but in the first 20
minutes, we were just like going through the stalls and the first ARC we got was The
Fandom by Anna Day because Chicken House had loads of them and they
weren't faffing about. They were just handing them out. We had to
sign up to their newsletter first and that didn't take a second, so it was fine.
And then Lily came over with a stack and she was like 'go to macmillan and
Penguin because they're just giving them out,' so they had tables and it was a
free-for-all grab situation, so you bet we grabbed! M: We have got quite a bit
planned for tomorrow, but obviously you'll get to see that as well. B: See you
tomorrow! *laughter*
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