hey I'm Avril Lavigne and you're watching toasted okay let's start
you have your third album coming out you released your first album when you were
17 do you feel like you've been growing up in public in a way um definitely I
feel like my life has been documented and everyone's got yeah you know see me
grow and change all on cameras what does that feel like um just kind of weird
it's kind of cool for me because you know I get to look back and it's all
there I go on YouTube you know see anything on especially on the Internet
how do you feel you've changed that's the big question that everyone keeps
asking me and I have to dissect myself I feel like when I first came out when I
was 17 I was very young and I was a kid and I was quite the little tomboy I
guess now I've kind of just grown out of that a bit I'm older um people keep
talking about how sometimes I'm more feminine I guess I don't know I've just
I am I'm totally a different person but I'm not well when I listen to your album
it strikes me that you did manage to hold on to that cheerfulness and it's
sort of what's so appealing about that um I like to write catchy music I like
pop music I like anything people can sing along to and I would you know I
like rock and roll and so I consider my music to be pop rock or whatever I like
to have fun with my music and that's definitely what I did on this record all
the way through it besides you know the odd ballad on this
record there's a track on your album called innocence yeah do you feel it's
hard to hold on to your innocence when you're in this business that's a deep
one I think you know and that's kind of the beauty about being young sometimes
is and when I look back at my first record
I was like number one I sold like 15 million records my I had three
number-one singles around the world and I was just so innocent at that time and
I didn't know anything and I was like oh cool cool cool this is great this is
really fun and like not knowing like you know this what how um like crazy that
was I knew it was crazy but like now like looking back I was like what
happened to me was so like really cool and special um but back to the song
innocence that's one of my favorite ones on this record because this whole record
is so up and really fast and aggressive and then I have you know the odd ballad
and I like this ballad because it's um it's really stripped down and raw and it
shows a different side
most hosted another ballad is when you're gone a sort of video and it
features a soldier going off to war it's what extent should we see that as a
political statement I feel like this song when you're gone
is very universal and it can mean so many different things so when it came to
the video I wanted to have different stories you know because this song could
be about losing someone well is or just you know having to go away on very long
trips and missing someone or you know breaking up or whatever so I thought no
no I don't really think the video is that political but it I just wanted it
to have a universal message on this album you've also worked with your
husband singer of some 41 how what was that like to work with your spouse
because that must be very difficult in some ways um it was it was great he
produced two songs and Derek was in the studio with his band some 41 um while I
was doing my record so um it's cool to see and I have be part of it you've also
been doing some acting you want to do more of that in the future yeah I worked
on over the hedge which was an animated film and I was in Fast Food Nation they
were both small parts um fun and I'd love to do more I'd like to hear more
about how you write how does that work the writing process for me is like
usually I don't think ahead of time what the songs gonna be about it just kind of
happens typically like I had before I went into the studio with this record I
had a vision for the record and then I was like this record is gonna be really
fun really playful I did not want it to be dark so I stayed away from when the
lyrics were starting to go darker I was like man and then
and and like I didn't want a bunch of mid-tempo so but writing for me it's
just usually sitting down like oh right and you know I'll have someone with the
guitar or I'll have the guitar and come up with a bunch of melodies and then
lyrics usually just are quick some stuff is personal and some stuff isn't like
girlfriend for instance the single it was just one
of those songs I just started singing like I don't like a girlfriend think he
need anyone and and thought it was funny so Luke and I wrote just about a story
about you know wanting the boyfriend and it didn't mean anything to me at that
time but that's kind of what I like about this record too is that some of
this record is just like everything I have a song called everything back but
you and it's just kind of like made up and it's just stories and then like some
of the songs are more personal like actually more meaningful to me
ready when you're in the studio would you consider yourself a control freak
yes I get involved with picking the producers I picked my producers I picked
the mixers I picked the mixes the players and sometimes I would record a
song and not be happy with the recording and go back to my producer and be like
we used to redo this a different way so you know it is my record and that's why
I you know I'm so proud of it the people I worked with like you know they all
became my friends and you know butch Walker it's a really good friend of mine
and we we wrote you know a lot of songs together on this one and a dr. Luke he
he was brand new and and the Derek was on it so can you remember the moment
where you decided this is what I want to do in my life be a musician and a singer
um yeah right ever since I was a little girl I wanted to sing and um and it
started probably when I was about 7 my parents really believed in me and saw
that I had something and got really involved and like my mom kept bugging
everyone to let me sing like my daughter can sing she can sing if to let her sing
and then finally I got to sing and once I sang once on stage by myself then
everyone started asking me to sing everywhere and um and that was the
beginning what was your biggest struggle in your career as I saw no I don't feel
like there's really been any struggles I think um you know once you become I
guess famous and you're the world knows you people talk about you and people
once you become really popular you have like people who don't like you and
people who love you and especially when you're someone like me who has a very
particular image of a strong vibe and I'm I'm a certain style and
I guess the only thing is when I was younger you know having to deal with why
don't people like me you know I didn't do anything to them that would have been
the struggle I guess if anything but that is just how it is
and there's something you do about it so I always just focus on the positive side
and that and the positive side is a very large side so did you feel people didn't
take you seriously or um well I think because I was so popular when I came out
there was a lot of people who were like oh she's fake and she's not real and and
that to me was weird because I felt like I am the one who's real if anyone would
have told me how to be they would have said dress nicer talk better like don't
swear like the you know what I mean they would have turned me into someone nicer
like I don't know a Hilary Duff or something yeah I think she I'm not just
seeing her in any way but someone more like that I think and and I was just
very myself and different from everyone and so to hear people say that I was
fake I was like no no I'm like the most real thing ever
I'm like myself so um but that was you know when I was younger it was weird and
then I just learned that it really doesn't matter because once you get to a
certain level people just talk about you and they say things and there's that you
know it's more positive than negative
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