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>> Ian: S TUESDAY,
DECEMBER 5th AND THIS IS "THE
NATIONAL."
>> Andrew: BREAKING TONIGHT...
THE WHITE HOUSE CONFIRMS THEY'LL
RECOGNIZE JERUSALEM AS THE
CAPITAL OF ISRAEL AND THE
VOLATILE REGION IS ON EDGE.
>> Ian: RUSSIA IS BANNED FROM
THE WINTER OLYMPICS.
WHAT IT MEANS FOR THEIR ATHLETES
AND THE GAMES AND TEAM CANADA.
>> Andrew: BUT WE BEGIN WITH
AN APOLOGY FROM A FEDERAL
CABINET MINISTER.
>> Interview: AS SOMEONE WITH
A DISABILITY MYSELF IT WAS
CERTAINLY NOT MY INTENTION TO
OFFEND ANYONE.
>> Andrew: THAT'S KENT HEHR,
THE DISABILITIES MINISTER.
HE'S APOLOGIZING TO A GROUP OF
THALIDOMIDE SURVIVORS WHO ACCUSE
HIM OF INSULTING THEM AND
HUMILIATING THEM RIGHT TO
THEIR FACES.
THEY WERE AT A MEETING DEMANDING
MORE COMPENSATION AND
THALIDOMIDE WAS A
GOVERNMENT-APPROVED DRUG THAT
CAUSED BIRTH DEFECTS BUT THEY
SAY THAT MINISTER HEHR TOLD THEM
UNSYMPATHETICALLY THAT EVERYONE
IN CANADA HAS A SOB STORY AND IT
DIDN'T STOP THERE.
DAVID COCHRANE EXPLAINS WHAT
HAPPENED AND HE ASKED THE
MINISTER TO EXPLAIN WHAT HE
SAID.
>> Reporter: A TOUGH DAY FOR
KENT HEHR TAKING PUBLIC HEAT
OVER SOMETHING THAT HE ALLEGEDLY
SAID IN PRIVATE.
>> Interview: WITHIN A PERIOD
OF 30 MINUTES IN THAT MEETING
MINISTER HEHR MANAGED TO INSULT
AND DEGRADE US REPEATEDLY.
>> Reporter: A GROUP OF
THALIDOMIDE SURVIVORS SAYING
THAT THE MINISTER BELITTLED
THEM.
>> Interview: THEN HE WENT ON
TO SAY, WELL, YOU DON'T HAVE IT
SO BAD.
EVERYONE IN CANADA HAS A SOB
STORY.
LOTS OF PEOPLE HAVE IT BAD IN
CANADA, DISABLED PEOPLE, POOR
PEOPLE, NOT JUST YOU.
AND HE SAID TO US, SO, YOU
PROBABLY HAVE ABOUT 10 YEARS
LEFT THEN NOW, THAT'S GOOD NEWS
FOR THE CANADIAN GOVERNMENT.
>> Reporter: FUEL FOR THE
OPPOSITION.
>> CAN THE MINISTER FOR PERSONS
WITH DISABILITIES CLARIFY WHAT
HE MEANT BY THESE WORDS WHICH HE
RECENTLY USED WHILE MEETING WITH
A GROUP
OF THALIDOMIDE PATIENTS.
>> SOME OF MY WORDS WERE
MISCONSTRUED.
WHEN I LEARNED THAT SOME OF MY
WORDS WERE MISINTERPRETED, I
IMMEDIATELY CALLED THE
ORGINISATION DIRECTLY AND
APOLOGIZED.
>> Reporter: HEHR NEVER DEALT
WITH THE SPECIFICS OF
ALLEGATIONS DURING QUESTION
PERIOD OR WHEN TALKING TO
REPORTERS.
DID YOU REALLY SAY
THAT EVERYONE IN CANADA HAS A
SOB STORY?
>> Interview: WE TALKED FOR A
HALF-HOUR ABOUT THE TRIALS AND
TRIBULATIONS OF MANY PEOPLE IN
THIS COUNTRY AND, IN FACT, ABOUT
THE DIFFICULT SITUATIONS OF THE
PEOPLE WITH THALIDOMIDE.
>> Reporter: HE STUCK WITH HIS
NON-SPECIFIC APOLOGY.
BUT DID USE THAT PHRASE, THAT
EVERYONE IN CANADA HAS A SOB
STORY?
>> Interview: WE TALKED FOR A
HALF-HOUR ON NUMEROUS ISSUES,
OKAY.
WE TALKED ABOUT THE
DIFFICULTY OF THEIR LIVES HAD
BEEN AND THE DIFFICULTY OF
PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES.
>> Reporter: BUT HE DID DENY
SAYING THAT THE SURVIVORS ONLY
HAD 10 YEARS LEFT.
>> Interview: I DID NOT SAY
THAT YOU ONLY HAD 10.
OUR GOVERNMENT IS WORKING AS
HARD AS WE CAN ON BEHALF OF
PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES.
>> Reporter: BUT THIS WASN'T
JUST ABOUT HEHR'S WORDS IN THAT
MEETING AND THERE WAS ALSO AN
ALLEGATION ABOUT HIS HANDS.
>> Interview: REACHED OUT TO
HER AND GRABBED HER BY THE ARM
VERY CLOSE TO HER BREAST IN A
WAY THAT WAS INAPPROPRIATE AND
UNWELCOME.
AND I THINK THAT WAS -- THAT WAS
A SHOCK TO US ALL TOO.
>> Interview: ANY TOUCHING WAS
COMPLETELY ACCIDENTAL, AND IF
THERE WAS, I COMPLETELY
APOLOGIZE FOR IT.
>> Andrew: AND DAVID IS
JOINING US WITH MORE ON THIS.
BECAUSE, DAVID, HOW BIG OF A
PROBLEM IS THIS FOR
HEHR?
>> Reporter: YOU KNOW, ANDREW,
IT'S NEVER A GOOD
DAY WHEN YOUR MINISTER FOR
DISABILITIES IS ACCUSED OF
MOCKING DISABILITIES, AND SO
THERE'S THAT.
HE WAS DEMOTED TO THIS PORTFOLIO
AND AMATEUR SPORTS IN LARGE PART
OF HIS INABILITY
TO MAKE PROGRESS ON THE BIGGER
VETERANS' ISSUES AND NOW HE HAS
THIS PROBLEM TODAY.
IT REMINDS A LOT OF PEOPLE IN
THIS TOWN OF THE FORMER CABINET
MINISTER JULIAN FANTINO WHEN HE
WAS VETERANS' AFFAIR MINISTER
AND HE WAS CAUGHT ON TAPE
YELLING AT A GROUP OF VETERANS.
YOU DON'T WANT PUBLIC SPATS
WHERE STAKEHOLDERS WHERE YOU
HAVE TO DEFEND YOUR PRIVATE
CONDUCT.
THE SAVING GRACE IS THAT THE
THALIDOMIDE SURVIVORS HAVE
ACCEPTED THEIR APOLOGY AND THEY
WANT TO MOVE FORWARD AND THE
PRIME MINISTER'S OFFICE SEEMS
SATISFIED WITH HOW HEHR HANDLED
THIS, SO A BAD DAY FOR THE
MINISTER, ANDREW, PROBABLY NOT
ONE THAT HAS IMMEDIATELY FAILED
HIS CABINET CAREER.
>> Andrew: DAVID COCHRANE IN
OTTAWA, THANKS.
NOW DAVID MENTIONED THE
THALIDOMIDE SURVIVORS WANTING TO
MOVE FORWARD.
THEY'RE IN OTTAWA DEMANDING THE
COMPENSATION THEY FEEL THAT THE
GOVERNMENT OWES THEM.
THERE ARE 95 SUCH SURVIVORS BORN
IN THE 1960s WITH BIRTH
DEFECTS SUCH AS MALFORMED LIMBS
AND INTERNAL ORGAN DAMAGE.
THEIR MOTHERS TOOK THALIDOMIDE
TO CONTROL MORNING SICKNESS.
IT WAS WIDELY PRESCRIBED AND
GOVERNMENT APPROVED.
BUT WITH TERRIBLE CONSEQUENCES.
SO IN 2015, THE FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT TRIED TO MAKE AMENDS,
REGULAR ANNUAL PAYMENTS AND A
LUMP-SUM TO EACH VICTIM OF
$125,000.
BUT THE GROUP TODAY WANTS DOUBLE
THAT AMOUNT SAYING THAT THEY'RE
STRUGGLING TO MAKE ENDS MEET
BECAUSE OF THEIR DISABILITIES.
SO, IAN, THIS IS ONE FILE KENT
HEHR IS REACTING TO AND YOU'RE
FOLLOWING ANOTHER.
>> Ian: YEAH, AS CANADA'S
MINISTER OF SPORT HE IS
EXPRESSING SUPPORT FOR THE
INTERNATIONAL
OLYMPIC COMMITTEE'S DECISION TO
BAN RUSSIA FROM PARTICIPATING IN
THE 2018 WINTER GAMES.
NOW IN YEARS PAST, THERE WAS ONE
THING CERTAIN ABOUT THOSE WINTER
GAMES, YOU WOULD HEAR THE
RUSSIAN ANTHEM MANY, MANY TIMES
AS THE ATHLETES CLIMBED TO THE
TOP OF THE PODIUM.
AT THE UPCOMING GAMES IN
PYEONGCHANG YOU WILL NOT HEAR IT
AT ALL.
>> Interview: THE RUSSIAN
OLYMPIC COMMITTEE IS SUSPENDED
WITH IMMEDIATE EFFECT.
THE ORDER CLEARLY LAYS OUT THE
UNPRECEDENTED ATTACKS ON THE
INTEGRITY OF THE OLYMPIC GAMES
AND
SPORT.
>> Ian: THIS IS A BLOW FOR ONE
OF THE WORLD'S MOST SUCCESSFUL
OLYMPIC COUNTRIES AND IT'S
LARGELY BECAUSE OF WHAT HAPPENED
HERE IN SOCHI IN 2014, WHERE THE
I.O.C. SAYS THAT RUSSIAN
OFFICIALS ENGAGED IN WIDESPREAD
SYSTEMATIC DOPING AND THEN
TAMPERED WITH TEST SAMPLES TO
HIDE IT.
THE IMPACT WAS SIGNIFICANT.
THE I.O.C. DISCIPLINARY
COMMISSION REPORT SAYS THAT THE
DOPING SCHEME CAUSED EXCEPTIONAL
DAMAGE TO THE INTEGRITY OF THE
I.O.C. AND THE OLYMPIC GAMES.
OF COURSE THE RUSSIAN
AUTHORITIES DENYING MUCH OF THIS
AND THERE ARE THREATS OF A
BOYCOTT AND ACCUSATIONS OF
POLITICAL MOTIVATIONS.
CHRIS BROWN HAS THE REACTION
FROM MOSCOW.
>> Reporter: ON RUSSIAN TV
TONIGHT ATHLETES WERE BAWLING
THEIR EYES OUT.
EVERYONE IS TALKING ABOUT
LETTING CLEAN ATHLETES GO, SO
WHAT DOES THAT MEAN, WE'RE
THE DIRTY ONES?
SAYS A BIATHALON COMPETITOR.
>> [SPEAKING RUSSIAN]
>> Reporter: YOU'RE NOT DIRTY,
YOU'RE NOT DIRTY ASSURED THE
PRESENTER.
HE MIGHT HAVE BEEN TRYING TO
COMFORT AN ENTIRE COUNTRY.
THERE WILL BE NO RUSSIAN
COLOURS, NO ANTHEM, NO TEAM
RUSSIA AT THE PYEONGCHANG
OLYMPICS IN FEBRUARY.
>> [SPEAKING RUSSIAN]
>> Reporter: I THINK THAT IT'S
A POLITICAL DECISION BY THE
WORLD, SAID THIS MAN IN MOSCOW
THIS DECISION HAS NOTHING TO DO
WITH SPORT.
STILL THE I.O.C. SAID THAT IT
WANTED TO GIVE RUSSIA A PATH
FORWARD SO CLEAN RUSSIAN
ATHLETES WHO HAVEN'T ALREADY
BEEN BANNED MAY BE ALLOWED TO
COMPETE UNDER AN OLYMPIC FLAG.
THE HEAD OF RUSSIA'S OLYMPIC
COMMITTEE SAYS IF THERE AREN'T
ANYMORE DOPING OFFENSES
INVOLVING RUSSIANS, RUSSIA CAN
EARN ITS WAY BACK INTO FUTURE
COMPETITIONS.
STILL, THE BIG QUESTION NOW IS,
UNDER THESE TERMS IS IT STILL
WORTH GOING?
>> [SPEAKING RUSSIAN]
>> Reporter: TO GO UNDER A
NEUTRAL FLAG IS A DISGRACE FOR
OUR COUNTRY, SAID THIS
POLITICIAN.
FIRST THE ECONOMIC SANCTIONS AND
NOW THEY DO IT TO OUR SPORTS,
COMPLAINED A RUSSIAN SENATOR.
AT THE HEART OF RUSSIAN ANGER IS
THAT MOST HERE DON'T THINK THAT
THEIR GOVERNMENT HAD ANYTHING TO
DO WITH THE OLYMPIC CHEATING OR
BELIEVE MUCH ELSE ABOUT THE
I.O.C. REPORT.
TONIGHT ONE TV SHOW EVEN GOT A
WORLD CHAMPION ARM WRESTLER ON
TO SEE IF HE COULD OPEN UP THE
CAPS OF INFAMOUS URINE BOTTLES
THAT WERE ALLEGEDLY TAMPERED
WITH TO MAKE CLEAN.
NO LUCK.
SO RUSSIANS WILL HAVE A WEEK TO
MULL IT OVER AND THEN A SPECIAL
ATHLETES COMMITTEE WILL DECIDE
WHETHER THEY WILL ACCEPT THE
I.O.C.'S TERMS AND SEND ATHLETES
TO COMPETE IN SOUTH KOREA.
CHRIS BROWN, CBC NEWS, MOSCOW.
>> Ian: TO GET TO THIS POINT
TOOK YEARS OF ACCUSATIONS AND
INVESTIGATIONS, REVELATIONS OF
CORRUPTION AT THE HIGHEST LEVELS
OF INTERNATIONAL SPORT AND
WHISTLEBLOWERS WERE CRUCIAL.
LIKE THE OLYMPIC RUNNER AND HER
HUSBAND, VITALY, WHO WORKED FOR
THE ANTI-DOPING AGENCY.
>> Interview: WE'RE TRYING TO
FIGHT IT FOR THE RIGHT REASONS.
>> Ian: THEY TOLD THE
INTERNATIONAL AUTHORITIES ABOUT
RUSSIA'S METHODS AND HOW
WIDESPREAD THE CHEATING WAS.
STEPANOVA WAS CALLED A TRAITOR
AND THERE'S BEEN THREATS AGAINST
THEIR LIVES AND THEY'VE BEEN IN
HIDING BUT ADRIENNE HAS SPOKEN
TO THEM A NUMBER OF TIMES.
DESPITE THE RISKS THAT THE
ATHLETES TOOK BECAUSE OF HER
DOPING VIOLATIONS, STEPANOVA IS
BARRED FROM COMPETING.
FOR SPEAKING OUT SHE AND HER
HUSBAND HAVE PAID A HEAVY PRICE.
NOW THAT RUSSIA IS FACING
CONSEQUENCES WE
WE REACHED VITALY STEPANOVA FOR
HIS THOUGHTS.
>> Interview: I'M GLAD THAT THE
I.O.C. HEARD US AND THEY
BELIEVED US AND THEY BELIEVED
OTHER WHISTLEBLOWERS AND IT'S
NOT A VINDICATION BUT I BELIEVE
THAT IT'S A GOOD SIGN FOR
ANTI-DOPING MOVEMENT AND FOR
CLEAN ATHLETES.
I GUESS THAT MAINLY IT'S STILL A
SAD DAY THAT ALL OF THIS WAS
HAPPENING IN MY HOME COUNTRY,
AND THERE WAS ABSOLUTELY NO
SYSTEM IN PLACE TO PREVENT THAT,
SO THIS IS THE SAD PART, BUT THE
GOOD PART IS THAT THE TRUTH CAME
OUT AND HOPEFULLY NOW THE SYSTEM
IN RUSSIA CAN BE CHANGED.
>> Ian: IT'S NOT JUST THE
WHISTLEBLOWERS SHARING THEIR
THOUGHTS ON ALL OF THIS TODAY,
SUSAN ORMISTON SPOKE TO SOME
CANADIAN ATHLETES WHO HAVE BEEN
AFFECTED BY PAST RUSSIAN
CHEATING.
AS SHE TELLS US, WHILE THEY DO
FEEL VINDICATED THEY'RE NOT
VENGEFUL.
>> Reporter: REMEMBER THIS
MOMENT AT THE SOCHI OLYMPICS?
A TOP RUSSIAN OLYMPIAN HOBBLED
BY A BUSTED SKI JUST TRIES TO
KEEP GOING.
SUDDENLY, THE CANADIAN SKI COACH
COMES TO HIS RESCUE WITH A NEW
SKI.
JUSTIN WADSWORTH WAS THAT GUY, A
TRUE SPORTSMAN, WHO HAS WAITED
DECADES FOR TODAY'S DOPING
SANCTIONS.
>> Interview: THE I.O.C. HAS
JUST BEEN DROPPING THE BALL IN
MY OPINION AND SAME WITH THE
I.F., FOR EXAMPLE, THE F.I.S. IN
SKIING AND SO I REALLY FEEL THAT
EVERYONE NEEDS TO COME CLEAN AND
THIS IS A GOOD OPPORTUNITY FOR
EVERYONE TO JUST TO ADMIT THEIR
WRONGS AND ADMIT THEY HAVEN'T
DONE ENOUGH IN THE PAST.
>> Reporter: WADSWORTH WAS
HIMSELF AN OLYMPIC SKIER AND
HE'S MARRIED TO BECKIE SCOTT WHO
COMPETED AGAINST RUSSIANS 15
YEARS AGO AT THE SALT LAKE CITY
OLYMPICS.
SCOTT TOOK BRONZE BEHIND
RUSSIA'S GOLD AND SILVER.
>> THIS IS ONE FOR THE CLEAN
ATHLETES.
>> Reporter: BUT BOTH RUSSIAN
SKIERS WERE ULTIMATELY STRIPPED
OF THEIR MEDALS BECAUSE OF
DOPING AND SCOTT WAS AWARDED THE
GOLD.
FOR BOTH OF THEM, ALLOWING CLEAN
RUSSIAN ATHLETES TO GO TO
PYEONGCHANG UNDER A NEUTRAL
BANNER IS FAIR.
>> Interview: THIS SHOULD BE A
MESSAGE TO THE RUSSIAN ATHLETES
TO FIGHT BACK AND TO MAKE THEIR
SYSTEM ANSWER TO THEM ABOUT WHY
THEY'VE HAD SYSTEMATIC DOPING IN
THE PAST.
>> Reporter: SAM EDNEY AND
CANADA'S LUGE TEAM TOOK FOURTH
IN SOCHI.
IF THE RUSSIAN RELAY TEAM THAT
WON SILVER DOESN'T QUALIFY FOR
THESE GAMES, CANADA COULD
BENEFIT.
>> Interview: IT'S RESTORED
FAITH IN MYSELF WITH THE SYSTEM
AND I THINK THAT IT WILL RESTORE
THE FAITH IN A LOT OF ATHLETES
AND AS WELL AS THE COMPETITORS
AND THE PEOPLE THAT LOVE
WATCHING
THE OLYMPICS.
>> Reporter: ATHLETES AND
COACHES HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR
YEARS FOR THE I.O.C. TO OWN UP
TO THE SCOPE OF CHEATING.
NOW IT HAS TO MAKE GOOD ON
SCREENING RUSSIAN ATHLETES FOR
PYEONGCHANG.
>> Interview: IT WAS VERY
FRUSTRATING AND I THINK
DISAPPOINTING FOR A LOT OF US AS
ATHLETES TO HAVE TO KNOW THAT
GOING TO THE STARTING LINE THAT
THE COMPETITION, THE LEVEL OF
THE PLAYING FIELD JUST WASN'T
LEVEL.
>> COMING DOWN THE HILL WE SEE
BECKIE IN THIRD PLACE.
>> Reporter: SUSAN ORMISTON
CBC NEWS.
>> Ian: FOR THOSE ATHLETES THAT
DIDN'T GET A MEDAL CEREMONY AT
SOCHI, THE I.O.C. HAS A PLAN.
>> Interview: SO WE WILL DO
OUR
BEST TO ORGANIZE CEREMONIES FOR
ATHLETES DURING THE OLYMPIC
WINTER GAMES IN PYEONGCHANG IN
2018 TO TRY TO MAKE UP FOR THE
MOMENTS THEY HAVE MISSED ON THE
FINISH LINE OR ON THE PODIUM.
>> Ian: SO FAR THE RUSSIAN
ATHLETES HAVE BEEN STRIPPED OF
11 MEDALS WON IN SOCHI.
STILL WITH THE OLYMPICS LATER
THIS HOUR A FEATURE INTERVIEW
WITH CANADIAN GOLD MEDAL
HOPEFULS, TESSA
VIRTUE AND SCOTT MOIR.
>> Andrew: THERE'S ANOTHER
DEVELOPING STORY THAT WE'RE
KEEPING OUR EYE ON.
THE INTERNATIONAL STATUS OF
JERUSALEM.
IT'S ONE OF THE MIDDLE EAST'S
RADIOACTIVE ISSUES, ISRAELIS AND
PALESTINIANS, BOTH CLAIM IT AS
THEIR CAPITAL, RECOGNIZE ONE AND
YOU UNDERMINE THE OTHER.
HENCE, THE U.S. EMBASSY BEING IN
TEL AVIV.
AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT NO
U.S. PRESIDENT HAS SOUGHT TO
CHANGE UNTIL NOW.
DONALD TRUMP IS EXPECTED TO
RECOGNIZE JERUSALEM AS ISRAEL'S
CAPITAL AND BEGIN THE PROCESS OF
MOVING THE U.S. EMBASSY THERE.
THE OFFICIAL ANNOUNCEMENT COMES
TOMORROW.
BUT HE STARTED MAKING CALLS
TODAY TO THE PALESTINIAN LEADER
MAHMOUD ABBAS IN THE WEST BANK.
TO ISRAELI PRIME MINISTER
MAHMOUD ABBAS IN THE WEST BANK.
TO ISRAELI PRIME MINISTER
BENJAMIN NETANYAHU AND TO
LEADERS IN JORDAN, EGYPT AND
SAUDI ARABIA.
ABBAS IN TURN CALLED RUSSIA AND
CALLED FRANCE AND EVEN CALLED
THE VATICAN FOR HELP.
THIS IS WHAT EMERGENCY DIPLOMACY
LOOKS LIKE.
DEREK STOFFEL PICKS UP THE STORY
FROM TEL AVIV.
>> Reporter: CALLS BETWEEN
PRESIDENT TRUMP AND SEVERAL
LEADERS HERE IN THE MIDDLE EAST
HAVE UNLEASHED A WAVE OF ALARM
AND EVEN ANGER.
THIS IS WHY... THERE ARE
CONCERNS THAT IF PRESIDENT TRUMP
GOES AHEAD AND RECOGNIZES
JERUSALEM AS THE CAPITAL OF
ISRAEL AND STARTS THE PROCESS OF
MOVING THE U.S. EMBASSY FROM
HERE IN TEL AVIV TO JERUSALEM,
THAT THE ARAB WORLD WILL SEE THE
UNITED STATES AS CHOOSING SIDES.
SIDING WITH ISRAEL IN THE
LONG-RUNNING DISPUTE BETWEEN THE
ISRAELIS AND THE PALESTINIANS.
NOW PALESTINIAN PRESIDENT
MAHMOUD ABBAS THROUGH HIS
SPOKESMAN
TONIGHT SAYS THAT THE MOVES
COULD KILL THE PEACE PROCESS.
KING ABDULLAH OF JORDAN SAYS
THAT THE POTENTIAL U.S. ACTION
COULD HAVE DANGEROUS
REPERCUSSIONS FOR SECURITY
THROUGHOUT THE REGION AND
EGYPT'S PRESIDENT EL-SISI
WEIGHED IN SAYING THAT
THERE'S NO NEED TO COMPLICATE
MATTERS HERE IN THE MIDDLE EAST.
PALESTINIAN FACTIONS ARE NOW
CALLING FOR THREE DAYS OF RAGE
ACROSS THE WEST BANK AND THE
GAZA STRIP.
AS A RESULT, ISRAELI SECURITY
FORCES ARE NOW PREPARING FOR
DEMONSTRATIONS THAT COULD VERY
WELL TURN VIOLENT.
DEREK STOFFEL, CBC NEWS, TEL
AVIV.
>> Andrew: THOSE REACTIONS
FROM LEADERS TODAY UNDERSCORE
WIDER WORRIES BEYOND ISRAEL AND
THE WEST BANK.
CONCERNS THAT THE DECISION MIGHT
THROW THE REGION INTO TURMOIL.
SO THE QUESTION IS, WHAT MIGHT
IT MEAN FOR THE NEIGHBOURS?
>> Interview: I REALLY THINK
THIS DECLARATION WILL HURT THE
PEACE PROCESS.
>> Andrew: PEACE TO THIS
WELL-KNOWN
CARTOONIST TAKES THE FORM OF A
DOVE, AN IGNORED AND OFTEN
DOOMED PEACE WITH THE U.S. AND
DONALD TRUMP AS THE VILLAIN.
HE SEES THE LATEST MOVE AS
ANOTHER BLOW TO PEACE.
>> Interview: AND THAT PEACE
PROCESS AND THAT THE WORLD
CONSIDERS JERUSALEM AS THE HOLY
LAND FOR ALL OF THE RELIGIONS,
NOT JUST FOR JEWISH.
>> Reporter: INDEED
JERUSALEM'S OLD CITY IS THE
EXAMPLE OF THAT CO-EXISTENCE, A
PLACE OF
PILGRIMAGE FOR JEWS, CHRISTIANS
AND MUSLIMS ALIKE.
NEIGHBOURING JORDAN HAS HELPED
TO MAINTAIN AND PROTECT THESE
HOLY SITES.
>> Interview: BY RECOGNISING
JERUSALEM AS THE CAPITAL OF
ISRAEL THIS, OF COURSE,
THREATENS THAT SPECIAL
CUSTODIANSHIP ROLE.
>> Andrew: EXPERTS SAY THAT
THE WORKING RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN
JORDAN AND ISRAEL IS AT RISK.
>> Interview: JORDAN HAS A LOT
OF PALESTINIANS WHO ARE
CONNECTED TO PALESTINE IN MANY
WAYS, EMOTIONALLY, CULTURALLY
AND IT WOULD BE A DIFFICULT
THING TO ACCEPT TO CONTINUE TO
HAVE A NORMAL RELATION OR A
SEMI-NORMAL RELATION WITH
ISRAEL.
>> [speaking foreign
language].
[Applause]
>> Andrew: THEN THERE'S
TURKEY.
TODAY PRESIDENT TAYEP ERDOGAN
THREATENED TO CUT OFF ALL TIES
TO ISRAEL WHICH HAD JUST RESUMED
LAST YEAR, BRINGING TURKISH AID
INTO GAZA AND BILLIONS IN TRADE
BETWEEN THE TWO COUNTRIES.
SO THIS DECLARATION COULD
DESTABILIZE THE LONG-STANDING
DIPLOMATIC AND SECURITY
RELATIONSHIPS.
NOW AS DEREK SAID EARLIER THREE
DAYS OF RAGE ARE SET TO BEGIN
NOW AS DEREK SAID EARLIER THREE
DAYS OF RAGE ARE SET TO BEGIN
TOMORROW AND THAT'S PROMPTED NEW
TRAVEL ADVISORIES TONIGHT.
THE CANADIAN GOVERNMENT IS
ASKING ALL TRAVELLERS TO ISRAEL
TO EXERCISE A HIGH DEGREE OF
CAUTION FOR THE NEXT THREE DAYS.
AND THE U.S. CONSULATE GENERAL
IN JERUSALEM ANNOUNCED TODAY
THAT U.S.
GOVERNMENT EMPLOYEES ARE NOT
PERMITTED TO TRAVEL TO JERUSALEM
AND THE WEST BANK UNTIL FURTHER
NOTICE.
THIS INCLUDES FAMILY OF
U.S. GOVERNMENT EMPLOYEES AS
WELL.
>> Ian: WELL AHEAD ON "THE
NATIONAL"... CONTROVERSIAL
ALABAMA SENATE CANDIDATE ROY
MOORE IS CHEST DEEP IN SEXUAL
MISCONDUCT ALLEGATIONS THAT WILL
NOT GO AWAY AND YET HE COULD
STILL WIN IT.
KEITH BOAG LOOKS AT WHY.
>> Andrew: AFTER A SERIES OF
YOUTH SUICIDES IN SASKATCHEWAN
YOUTH SUICIDES IN SASKATCHEWAN
WE'LL TELL YOU ABOUT A NEW PLAN
TO TURN
THINGS AROUND WITH INPUT FROM
YOUNG PEOPLE ITSELF.
>> Ian: AND THE GOLDEN STATE IS
IN FLAMES, FORCING TENS OF
THOUSANDS TO THREE.
LEAVING CALIFORNIANS TO WONDER
IF THIS DEVASTATING FIRE SEASON
WILL EVER END.
>> Interview: I HAVE BEEN AN
OWNER FOR 40 YEARS HERE AND IT
JUST IS CRAZY WHAT'S GOING ON.
>> Interview: THIS WAS GOING
TO BE MY DYING IN HOUSE BUT THE
ONLY THING IS THAT THE HOUSE
DIED BEFORE I DID.
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>> Andrew: ON "THE NATIONAL"
TONIGHT ANOTHER ACTOR HAS BEEN
FIRED OVER SEXUAL ASSAULT
ALLEGATIONS, DANNY MASTERSON WAS
ON "THAT 70s SHOW" ON THE
NETFLIX SERIES "THE WRENCH" AND
THEY LET HIM GO AFTER MULTIPLE
WOMEN ACCUSED HIM OF SEXUAL
ASSAULT.
MASTERSON HAS DENIED THE
ALLEGATIONS BUT LOS ANGELES
POLICE SAY THEY ARE
INVESTIGATING.
>> MY LEGACY CAN'T BE
COMPROMISED OR DIMINISHED IN ANY
WAY BY WHAT WE'RE GOING THROUGH
NOW.
THIS TOO SHALL PASS.
>> Andrew: THAT WAS DEMOCRATIC
REPRESENTATIVE JOHN CONYERS ON
THE RADIO THIS MORNING.
HE'S STILL DENYING ALLEGATIONS
THAT HE SEXUALLY HARASSED FORMER
EMPLOYEES, BUT TODAY AFTER
INTENSE PRESSURE TO RESIGN THE
88-YEAR-OLD ANNOUNCED THAT HE'S
RETIRING IMMEDIATELY.
>> Ian: IN ALABAMA TONIGHT A
CANDIDATE WHOSE POLITICAL BRAND
IS
DEFIANCE OF THE WASHINGTON
ESTABLISHMENT, WHO IS INTENSELY
POLARIZING AND DOGGED BY
CONTROVERSY, A CANDIDATE WHO
ELECTRIFIED A CROWD OF
SUPPORTERS AND, NO, WE'RE NOT
TALKING ABOUT DONALD TRUMP.
[Applause]
ROY MOORE IS RUNNING FOR THE
U.S. SENATE IN THE VOTE NEXT
WEEK.
IT'S THE BIGGEST ELECTORAL TEST
FOR THE REPUBLICANS SINCE TRUMP
WON THE ELECTION LAST YEAR AND
IT'S THE BIGGEST ELECTORAL TEST
FOR THE REPUBLICANS SINCE TRUMP
WON THE ELECTION LAST YEAR AND
AT TIMES MOORE HAS TRAILED IN
THE POLLS WHICH IS SAYING
SOMETHING FOR A REPUBLICAN IN
ALABAMA.
SEVERAL WOMEN HAVE COME FORWARD
ACCUSING HIM OF SEXUAL
MISCONDUCT WHEN THEY WERE TEENS.
MOORE DENIES IT, TRUMP STANDS BY
HIM AND RIGHT HERE, RIGHT NOW,
SO DO HIS SUPPORTERS.
WELL, KEITH BOAG IS IN FAIRHOPE,
ALABAMA, TO GIVE US A SENSE OF
THE INTENSITY OF THE SENATE RACE
BUT HOW DO THEY SEE HIM?
>> Reporter: THEY ARE BRUSHING
IT OFF AND WE SPOKE TO A NUMBER
OF THEM WHO ALL SAID ESSENTIALLY
THE SAME THING -- EITHER THEY
SAID THAT IN THE UNITED STATES
OF AMERICA EVERYONE IS INNOCENT
UNTIL THEY'RE PROVEN GUILTY OR
THEY SAID THAT THESE ALLEGED
INCIDENTS HAPPENED 40 YEARS AGO,
WHY ARE THE WOMEN ONLY COMING
FORWARD AT THIS TIME WHEN
THERE'S AN ELECTION UNDERWAY,
SUGGESTING THAT THERE WAS SOME
KIND OF CONSPIRACY AGAINST ROY
MOORE.
BUT WE ALSO SPOKE TO A SPOKESMAN
FOR THE CAMPAIGN WHO ADMITTED
THAT THIS IS A MUCH TIGHTER RACE
THAN ANYONE THOUGHT IT WOULD BE.
THE POLLS ARE NOW SHOWING THAT
THERE'S A BOUNCE BACK FOR ROY
MOORE BUT HE'S ONLY LEADING IN
THE RACE BY A POINT OR TWO AND
THOUGH THE CAMPAIGN SAYS THEY
EXPECT THAT NEXT TUESDAY WHEN
THE VOTES ARE ALL COUNTED THAT
HE'LL HAVE WON BY 10 PERCENTAGE
POINTS, NORMALLY A REPUBLICAN IN
THIS STATE, ALABAMA, WOULD BE
WINNING THIS RACE BY ABOUT 30
POINTS.
SO IT'S MUCH TIGHTER THAN ANYONE
EXPECTED.
>> Ian: YOU WERE AT THE RALLY
TONIGHT AND STEVE BANNON WAS ON
THE STAGE, A FORMER MEMBER OF
THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION AND NOW
HE HAS DECLARED WAR ON THE
REPUBLICAN ESTABLISHMENT SO WHAT
SHOULD WE MAKE OF BANNON'S
APPEARANCE?
>> Reporter: WELL, BANNON
CLEARLY WAS TRYING TO REFRAME IT
AS A REFERENDUM ON DONALD
TRUMP'S AGENDA AND HE SAID DON'T
LET THEM TAKE YOUR VOICE AWAY.
BUT HE SPENT MORE TIME ATTACKING
THE REPUBLICAN ESTABLISHMENT
THAN DEMOCRATS AND HE NAMED JEFF
FLAKE AND MITCH McCONNELL AND
PAUL RYAN AND MITT ROMNEY AS
ENEMIES OF THE TRUMP-SUPPORTING
BASE OF THE PARTY AND HE
REPEATED AGAIN AND AGAIN YOU
CANNOT LET THESE PEOPLE TAKE THE
VOICE OF THE DEPLORABLES AWAY
FROM THEM, YOU HAVE TO GET OUT
AND YOU HAVE TO VOTE FOR ROY
MOORE.
>> Ian: KEITH BOAG IN ALABAMA
TONIGHT, THANK YOU.
>> Ian: STILL TO COME THIS HOUR
ON "THE NATIONAL"... SOUTHERN
CALIFORNIA IS BURNING, 10 OF
THOUSANDS FLEE AS ONE OF THE
WORST WILDFIRE SEASONS IN THE
STATE'S HISTORY FLARES UP AGAIN.
>> Andrew: AND THE U.S.
SUPREME COURT HAS A LANDMARK
CASE THAT PITS GAY RIGHTS
AGAINST FREEDOM OF SPEECH, ALL
OVER A WEDDING CAKE.
>> Interview: I RESPECTFULLY
DECLINE TO CREATE A CUSTOM CAKE
THAT WOULD CELEBRATE A VIEW OF
MARRIAGE IN DIRECT CONFLICT WITH
MY FAITH CORE TEACHINGS.
>> Interview: WE FELT LIKE
SECOND-CLASS CITIZENS IN OUR
>> BE READY TO GO.
WE SAY READY, SET, GO.
RIGHT NOW MAKE SURE THAT YOU
HAVE THOSE CRITICAL DOCUMENTS,
THE CRITICAL STUFF THAT YOU
NEED, HAVE IT READY, PUT IT IN
YOUR CAR AND YOU HEAR GO, GO.
>> Andrew: THAT'S THE KIND OF
WARNING THAT THOUSANDS OF
CALIFORNIANS WERE WOKEN UP TO AS
A PAIR OF FAST-MOVING WILDFIRES
CLOSED IN ON THEM.
TENS OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE HAVE
ALREADY BEEN FORCED FROM THEIR
HOMES AND HERE'S WHY... THE
FIRST FIRE BEGAN YESTERDAY
EVENING NORTH OF SANTA PAULA,
CALIFORNIA.
AND IT GREW FAST AND FURIOUS.
BY MID-DAY TODAY IT HAD SPREAD
OVER 200 SQUARE KILOMETRES IN
VENTURA COUNTY, INCLUDING THE
CITY OF VENTURA ITSELF.
ABOUT 100,000 PEOPLE LIVE THERE.
AT LEAST 150 STRUCTURES,
INCLUDING HOMES, WERE BURNED TO
THE GROUND AND CALIFORNIA
DECLARED A STATE OF EMERGENCY.
BUT THEN THINGS GOT WORSE.
A SECOND FIRE BROKE OUT AT
AROUND 3:30 a.m. LOCAL TIME
IT BURNED INTO LOS ANGELES
COUNTY,
INCLUDING THE NORTHERN
NEIGHBOURHOODS OF L.A. FORCING
THE EVACUATION OF 2,500 HOMES.
THOSE ARE TWO OUT OF SEVERAL
FIRES BURNING IN THE REGION
RIGHT NOW AND CBC'S KIM
BRUNHUBER SAW THE EXTENT OF IT
ALL
FIRSTHAND.
HE SPENT THE DAY NEAR THE FLAMES
IN VENTURA COUNTY.
>> Reporter: THEY MAY CALL IT
A CALM FIRE BUT YOU GET A
SENSE AS YOU WALK IN THE SMOKY
BLACKENED LANDSCAPE THAT THERE
ISN'T JUST ONE FIRE BUT
HUNDREDS, THOUSANDS.
HERE MOMENTS AGO A TREE BURST
INTO FLAME.
HERE IS A FIELD ON FIRE.
HERE FIREFIGHTERS HAVE BEEN ON
THEIR FEET FOR MORE THAN 12
HOURS POPPING FROM ONE SET OF
FLAMES TO THE NEXT.
AT ONE END OF THE CITY OF SANTA
PAULA, THE FIRE HAS COME AND
GONE.
200 METRES AWAY THIS FAMILY
WAITS FOR NEWS.
THEY EVACUATED THEIR HOME
YESTERDAY IN THE DEAD OF NIGHT.
>> Interview: IT WAS BEHIND US
AND IT WAS IN FRONT OF US SO WE
WERE TRAPPED IN IT SO WE HAD TO
GET OUT.
>> Reporter: YOU WERE
BASICALLY SURROUNDED ON THAT
SIDE AND THIS SIDE?
>> Interview: RIGHT.
>> Reporter: THEY CAME BACK
THIS MORNING TO SEE IF THEIR
HOUSE WAS STILL STANDING.
I CAME FROM THAT DIRECTION SO
THEY ASKED ME.
A SMALL LITTLE HOUSE AND A
BIGGER HOUSE NEXT TO IT, SO BOTH
OF THOSE HAVE BURNED.
YEAH, I'M SORRY TO SAY.
THOSE YOURS?
>> Interview: YEAH.
>> Reporter: OH, MAN.
>> Interview: THANK YOU.
>> Reporter: SORRY ABOUT THAT.
THEIRS IS JUST ONE OF MORE THAN
1,000 HOMES LOST IN THIS PARCHED
LAND, TOO MUCH WIND, AND NOT
ENOUGH WATER.
>> Interview: THE TOPOGRAPHY
WIND-DRIVEN FIRES ARE JUST
IMPOSSIBLE TO GET AHEAD OF AND
THERE'S NOT ENOUGH RESOURCES
AND, YOU KNOW, IT TAKES AN
ENTIRE MUTUAL AID SYSTEM TO EVEN
PUT A DENT IN IT.
>> Reporter: IF HE SOUNDS
HOPELESS MAYBE IT IS BECAUSE HE
TOO LOST MOST OF HIS HOME LAST
NIGHT.
TRYING TO BOOST MORALE ARE
MARLENE AND HER FRIENDS WITH
THEIR HOMEMADE SIGNS.
>> Interview: TO BE HONEST I
WAS REALLY SCARED WHAT WAS GOING
ON AND I SAW ALL OF THESE
FIREFIGHTERS COMING IN FROM
DIFFERENT CITIES
AND I WANTED TO SHOW THAT WE
APPRECIATE WHAT THEY'RE DOING
FOR US.
>> Reporter: HERE IN THE
MIDDLE OF THE HOT ZONE YOU COME
ACROSS GHOSTS IN THE SMOKE.
VOLUNTEERS FIGHTING THE FLAMES
AS BEST THEY CAN.
WITH THIS SMOKY ECLIPSE IT'S
HARD TO SEE, HARD TO BREATHE AND
IT'S RAINING ASH.
THERE'S FIRE ALL AROUND.
EVEN IF YOU CAN'T SEE IT YOU
KNOW THAT IT'S THERE.
I LEAVE THE PART OF TOWN WHERE
THE FIRE IS AND HEAD TOWARDS
WHERE IT'S GOING.
AT THE OTHER OF SANTA PAULA, A
FRANTIC RUSH TO EVACUATE, TO GET
RESIDENTS ON THE ROAD BEFORE THE
FIRE BEATS IT TO THEM.
YOU'RE NOT SCARED, MA'AM?
>> [SPEAKING SPANISH]
>> Reporter: [SPEAKING
SPANISH]
ARE YOU SCARED, I ASK HER?
NOT FOR ME, SHE SAID, BUT FOR
THE
CHILDREN.
SHE HAS A RIGHT TO BE SCARED.
SEE THESE HILLS THERE?
THE FLOWNS HAVE GROWN VISIBLY IN
JUST THE TIME THAT I HAVE BEEN
WATCHING THEM AND FANNED BY THE
MONSTER WINDS.
ON THE ROOFS, THE RESIDENTS LIKE
JOE PACHECO ARE TRYING TO
PROTECT THEIR HOMES.
>> Interview: I HAVE NEVER
SEEN ANYTHING LIKE THIS SINCE I
HAVE BEEN HERE.
BORN AND RAISED HERE AND NEVER
HAVE.
>> Reporter: SO HE KEEPS
WATERING AND HOPING FOR AN EARLY
CHRISTMAS MIRACLE.
WITH FIRE ON BOTH SIDES AND
CLOSING IN.
KIM BRUNHUBER, CBC NEWS, SANTA
PAULA, CALIFORNIA.
>> Andrew: ALL OF THAT
DEVASTATION COMES NEAR THE
END OF THE WORST WILDFIRE SEASON
IN CALIFORNIA HISTORY.
IN OCTOBER ALONE AT LEAST 43
PEOPLE WERE KILLED AND MORE THAN
10,000 BUILDINGS WERE LOST AS
AGGRESSIVE WILDFIRES SWEPT
THROUGH WINE COUNTRY.
AND THE BIG WORRY TONIGHT IS
THAT WE MAY NOT HAVE SEEN THE
WORST OF IT.
NOW METEROLOGIST JOHANNA
WAGSTAFFE HAS BEEN TRACKING THIS
FOR US AND, JO, CAN YOU START BY
EXPLAINING WHY THIS YEAR HAS
BEEN AS BAD AS IT HAS BEEN?
>> Reporter: WELL, ANDREW, A
COUPLE OF UNIQUE WEATHER
CONDITIONS HAVE COME TOGETHER TO
CREATE THE PERFECT STORM FOR
EXPLOSIVE FIRES.
FIRST OF ALL THE SANTA ANA WINDS
HAVE BEEN IN FULL FORCE,
DRAWING UP HOT, DRY DESERT AIR
AND MOVING IT TOWARDS THE COAST
WHERE IS RACES THROUGH THE
VALLEYS AND THE INLETS AND
HEATING UP AND SPEEDING UP TO
CREATE THOSE EXPLOSIVE FIRE
CONDITIONS.
WE HAVE ALWAYS HAD A LOT OF
VEGETATION GROWTH AFTER A RECORD
WET WINTER FOLLOWED BY A VERY
HOT SUMMER FOR CALIFORNIA.
THAT DRIED OUT ALL OF THE BRUSH.
BASICALLY CREATING FUELS FOR
THESE FIRES TO BURN THROUGH,
ANDREW.
>> Andrew: SO, JO, LOOK INTO
THE FUTURE FOR ME IF YOU COULD,
I MEAN, HOW MUCH WORSE DO WE
EXPECT IT TO GET FROM HERE?
>> Reporter: UNFORTUNATELY,
THE SANTA ANA WINDS WILL BE IN
PLACE FOR DAYS AND WE ARE
TALKING HURRICANE FORCE GUSTS
OVER THE NEXT FEW NIGHTS.
UNUSUAL TO SEE THIS IN PLACE FOR
SO LONG.
ON TOP OF THAT A
HUGE HIGH PRESSURE SYSTEM IS IN
PLACE FROM BRITISH COLUMBIA
THROUGH TO CALIFORNIA AND NO
RAIN IS IN THE FORECAST FOR
ALMOST TWO WEEKS.
AGAIN, A VERY UNUSUAL SET-UP,
ALL OF THESE FACTORS WILL LIKELY
BE AMPLIFIED BY CLIMATE CHANGE,
UNFORTUNATELY, AS WE MOVE
FORWARD IN TIME.
ANDREW?
>> Andrew: ALL RIGHTY, THANK
YOU, JO.
AND, IAN, THE EVER INCREASING
THREAT
OF WILDFIRES, SOMETHING THAT
WE'RE SADLY ACCUSTOMED TO HERE
IN BRITISH COLUMBIA AS WELL.
>> Ian: AND, ANDREW, LET'S MOVE
TO
SASKATCHEWAN NOW WHERE PEOPLE
KNOW THAT THERE'S A PROBLEM WITH
SUICIDE IN YOUNG INDIGENOUS
PEOPLE AND THE PROVINCE'S
ADVOCATE FOR YOUNG PEOPLE SAYS
THAT IT'S TIME TO TACKLE THIS
HEAD-ON.
>> Interview: ONE OF THE FEARS
WAS THAT IF YOU TALK TO CHILDREN
AND YOUTH ABOUT SUICIDE THAT
THEY'RE GOING TO DO IT.
WELL, THE FACT IS THAT THEY'RE
ALREADY DOING IT.
THEY'RE NOT TALKING TO THE
PEOPLE, THE ADULTS IN THE
COMMUNITY, AND THEIR PARENTS AND
FAMILIES AND THE OLDER PEOPLE
THAT REALLY NEED TO HEAR THIS.
>> Ian: TOO MANY TEENS AND THE
ODDS ARE INESCAPABLE, SOMEONE
THEY KNOW WILL KILL THEMSELVES,
IT'S ONLY A MATTER OF TIME.
THE SUICIDE RATES IN
SASKATCHEWAN ARE 26 TIMES HIGHER
FOR INDIGENOUS GIRLS THAN THEIR
NON-INDIGENOUS PEERS AND SIX
TIMES HIGHER FOR INDIGENOUS
BOYS.
THE ISSUE CAME TO A SHOCKING
LIGHT IN OCTOBER LAST YEAR WHEN
SIX GIRLS IN NORTHERN
SASKATCHEWAN ALL BETWEEN THE
AGES OF 10 AND 14 KILLED
THEMSELVES.
THE PROVINCE'S ADVOCATE FOR
CHILDREN AND YOUTH INVESTIGATED
AND SAID THAT HE DISCOVERED THAT
YOUNG PEOPLE KNOW WHAT THE
PROBLEM IS AND THEY KNOW WHAT
NEEDS TO BE DONE.
CORY O'SOUP'S REPORT FOCUSED ON
WHAT HE
HEARD FROM THE INDIGENOUS YOUTH
THAT HE SPOKE TO AND THEY HAD
SEVERAL CALLS TO ACTION, STOP
BULLYING IN THEIR COMMUNITIES.
INCREASE EMOTIONAL SUPPORT FOR
FAMILIES.
ADDRESS DRUG AND ALCOHOL USE.
AND PROVIDE MORE DIVERSE
ACTIVITIES FOR YOUTH.
HE SAYS THAT IT'S ALSO CRITICAL
THAT THE FEDERAL AND THE
PROVINCIAL GOVERNMENTS END
INEQUITY IN HEALTH CARE FUNDING
FOR INDIGENOUS CHILDREN.
AND BACK SUICIDE PREVENTION
STRATEGIES.
OUR OLIVIA STEFANOVICH SPOKE TO
SOME OF THOSE TEENS AND HEARD A
BETTER STRATEGY IS A MATTER OF
LIFE-AND-DEATH.
>> Interview: WELL, IT WAS
QUITE A BIT OF A HARD DOWNFALL
FOR ABOUT TWO YEARS.
>> Reporter: 15-YEAR-OLD
DANIEL BIRD NERVOUSLY RECALLS
THE MOMENT
THAT CHANGED EVERYTHING FOR HIM.
>> Interview: THE NIGHT BEFORE
MY MOTHER PASSED, ALL I COULD
REMEMBER IS THAT I WAS YELLING
AT HER, ALL OF THAT KIND OF
STUFF, AND IN THE MORNING I WOKE
UP AND I CAME TO CHECK ON HER
AND, WELL, TRYING TO MAKE SURE
THAT SHE WAS OKAY.
>> Reporter: DANIEL SAYS THAT
HE PUSHED HIS EAR AGAINST HIS
MOM TO SEE IF SHE WAS BREATHING.
SHE WASN'T.
>> Interview: SO I FELT LIKE
WALLS WERE CLOSING AROUND ME.
AND I FELT LIKE THEY WEREN'T
THERE, WEREN'T REAL AT ALL, YET
I COULD FEEL IT GENTLY SQUEEZING
UP
AGAINST ME.
>> Reporter: IT WAS A FEELING
OF LOSS, DESPERATION, THAT SO
MANY TEENS IN THIS PART OF
SASKATCHEWAN KNOW.
>> Interview: I'M KIND OF
DON'T HAVE A GREAT CONNECTION
WITH ALL OF THE PEOPLE HERE
ANYMORE.
>> Reporter: JOEL CROSS IS THE
SAME AGE AS DANIEL.
HE WANTS TO GET OUT OF LA RONGE.
>> Interview: A LOT OF PEOPLE
DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE HERE AND
THEY DON'T FEEL SAFE.
YOU ONLY HEAR ABOUT THE THINGS
THAT HAPPEN BAD IN THIS TOWN.
>> Reporter: DANIEL ONLY
OPENED UP ABOUT HIS EXPERIENCE
WHEN THE PROVINCE'S CHILD AND
YOUTH ADVOCATE THAT VISITED THIS
COMMUNITY THIS PAST YEAR.
HE SAID HE'S FOUND STRENGTH
SINCE AND HAS THIS MESSAGE FOR
OTHERS.
>> Interview: YOU ARE PERFECT
AND YOU WERE BORN PERFECT, IT'S
JUST THE SITUATION THAT IS NOT
PERFECT.
>> Reporter: A SENTIMENT THAT
HE HOPES THAT OTHER YOUNG PEOPLE
THINK ABOUT BEFORE THEY CONSIDER
TAKING THEIR OWN LIVES.
OLIVIA STEFANOVICH, CBC NEWS,
OLIVIA STEFANOVITCH, CBC NEWS,
LA RONGE, SASKATCHEWAN.
>> Ian: AHEAD ON "THE NATIONAL,"
SUSAN ORMISTON SPEAKS TO TWO OF
BRIGHTEST HOPES FOR OLYMPIC GOLD
IN SOUTH KOREA, ICE DANCER,
TESSA VIRTUE AND SCOTT MOIR OPEN
UP ABOUT THEIR LONG PARTNERSHIP
AND THE CHALLENGES OF LAUNCH A
COME BACK.
>> Susan: WHAT HAS BEEN THE
HARDEST PART?
>> Scott Moir: GETTING USED TO
THE PRESSURE AGAIN, I
UNDERESTIMATED HOW NERVOUS WE
WOULD GET.
>> Tessa Virtue: THIS IS ALL
LEADING INTO THE
>> Tessa Virtue: IF WE'RE ABLE
TO TAKE THE ICE IN PYEONGCHANG
AND FEEL THAT WE HAVE DONE
EVERYTHING THAT WE POSSIBLY
COULD TO SET OURSELVES UP FOR
THAT MOMENT, THAT HAS TO BE
ENOUGH.
>> Ian: AFTER RETURNING TO
ACTIVE COMPETITION A YEAR AGO,
CANADA'S PREMIERE ICE DANCE DUO
IS READY TO TAKE ON THE WORLD IN
SOUTH KOREA.
BUT THE PATH TO THE PODIUM IS
DIFFICULT AND THE CHALLENGES
AREN'T JUST ON THE ICE.
STILL TESSA VIRTUE AND SCOTT
MOIR ARE ABSOLUTELY FOCUSED ON
WINNING GOLD IN PYEONGCHANG JUST
AS THEY DID IN VANCOUVER AND AS
MANY BELIEVE THEY WERE ROBBED OF
DOING IN SOCHI.
SUSAN ORMISTON SAT DOWN WITH THE
SKATING STARS AHEAD OF A
COMPETITION IN JAPAN LATER THIS
WEEK AND TALKED ABOUT REFINDING
THEIR EDGE.
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>> Susan: TESSA VIRTUE AND SCOTT
MOIR HAVE BEEN PAIRED UP LONGER
THAN ANY OTHER SKATING DUO IN
CANADA.
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* BLAZING DOWN THE HIGHWAY AS WE
LEFT THE CITY OF VERSAILLES *
>> Susan: THEIR INTIMATE
PROFESSIONAL RELATIONSHIP HAS
WEATHERED 20 YEARS OF SUCCESS
EVER SINCE THE COACHES PUT THE
TWO PROMISING JUNIORS TOGETHER
BACK IN 1997.
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THAT'S A LOT OF GROWING
UP SIDE-BY-SIDE.
TESSA, YOU ARE SO POISED AND
SO PROFESSIONAL AND YOU MEET
THESE BIG PERFORMANCE CHALLENGES
ON A REGULAR BASIS.
WHAT RATTLES YOU?
>> Tessa Virtue: MOSTLY I GET
RATTLED BY FEELING THAT WE'RE
NOT MEASURING UP OR FEELING
LIKE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE FAILING
ONE ANOTHER IN SOME WAY, BUT I'M
SO GRATEFUL THAT WE HAVE SUCH A
SOLID PARTNERSHIP AND AFTER 20
YEARS THAT WE CAN SPEAK ABOUT
THAT OPENLY AND HONESTLY AND
COME TOGETHER AND FIND SOLUTIONS
AND FEEL THAT SUPPORT AND
COMFORT.
>> Scott Moir: YOU KNOW WHAT
IS FUNNY IS THAT I ALWAYS HOPED
THEY WOULD ASK DIFFERENT
QUESTIONS -- LIKE THE HARD
QUESTIONS TO ME BUT THAT'S NOT
ONE THAT I WOULD WANT TO ANSWER
AND I DON'T THINK THAT I HAVE AN
ANSWER FOR WHAT RATTLES YOU.
>> Tessa Virtue: REALLY?
>> Scott Moir: YEAH.
>> Susan: WHAT RATTLES YOU
THOUGH?
>> Scott Moir: WHEN I LOOKED
AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS YEAR OF
WHAT I CAN'T LIVE WITH AND
LETTING DOWN TESSA WAS NUMBER
ONE I THINK.
WE HAD DONE ALL OF THIS
TOGETHER AND I WANT TO END THIS
ON A GOOD NOTE AND I DON'T SEE
THAT HAPPENING, DO YOU?
>> Susan: SO I HAVE TO ASK YOU
THIS, LIKE 20 YEARS, IT'S LIKE A
MARRIAGE, RIGHT?
AFTER 20 YEARS WHAT BUGS YOU
ABOUT YOUR PARTNER?
>> Scott Moir: IT'S A SICK
ANSWER AND PEOPLE WILL BE UPSET.
BUT, IT'S CRAZY AND SOME DAYS I
LOOK AT TESSA AND I JUST THINK
THIS IS SUCH A FUNNY LITTLE
RELATIONSHIP THAT WE HAVE
BECAUSE IT'S BETTER THAN IT WAS
20 YEARS AGO, 15 YEARS AGO, 5
YEARS AGO, WINNING THE OLYMPICS
AND IN OUR BIGGEST FIGHTS AND IN
OUR HIGHEST MOMENTS I THINK THAT
NOW IT'S BETTER THAN IT'S EVER
BEEN AND THAT'S A FRIENDSHIP.
>> Susan: OKAY, TESSA YOUR TURN.
>> Tessa Virtue: WHAT BUGS ME?
WELL, YOU'RE PUNCTUAL NOW.
THAT USED TO BE A THING.
THAT MEANS ON TIME ALL THE TIME.
>> REPRESENTING CANADA, TESSA
VIRTUE AND SCOTT MOIR.
[Applause]
>> Susan: VIRTUE AND MOIR SOARED
INTO CANADIANS' HEARTS AT THE
VANCOUVER OLYMPICS.
>> GOLD MEDALLISTS AND OLYMPIC
CHAMPIONS REPRESENTING CANADA,
TESSA VIRTUE AND SCOTT MOIR.
[Cheers and Applause]
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>> Susan: FOUR YEARS LATER IN
SOCHI OUR GOLDEN DUO IN ICE
DANCE WENT FOR A SECOND GOLD.
>> THAT WAS A STUNNING AND
SUBTLE PERFECTION.
>> Susan: AFTER A NASTY JUDGING
CONTROVERSY ALLEGING THAT THE
RESULT WAS PRE-DETERMINED THEY
GOT SILVER.
>> GOLD MEDALLISTS REPRESENTING
THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA...
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>> Susan: AND AFTER SOCHI
RETIRED FROM COMPETITION.
* DON'T KNOW ANYBODY LIKE YOU
* BANG BANG BANG
>> Susan: THEN THEY JOINED THE
PRO SIR CUT ON SHOWS LIKE "STARS
ON
ICE" BUT IT TURNS OUT NOT FOR
LONG.
>> YOU HAVE AN ANNOUNCEMENT TO
MAKE, WHAT IS IT, TESSA, I GIVE
YOU THE HONOUR.
>> Tessa Virtue: WE HAVE
DECIDED TO RETURN TO COMPETITION
AND WE ARE SO EXCITED.
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>> Susan: THE SKATING COUPLE
CAME ROARING BACK.
>> OH, MY GOODNESS!
THIS IS OLYMPIC GOLD MEDAL
WORTHY SHOULD THEY DO IT THAT
WAY.
>> Susan: THIS YEAR RECLAIMING
TOP MARKS IN ICE DANCE AND GOING
INTO THE GRAND PRIX FINAL THIS
WEEK NUMBER TWO BEHIND THE
FRENCH AND RAZOR FOCUSED ON THE
PYEONGCHANG OLYMPICS.
SO IT IS A RISK RETIRING AND
THEN COMING BACK.
WHAT HAS BEEN THE HARDEST PART?
>> Scott Moir: GETTING USED TO
THE PRESSURE AGAIN AND WE
UNDERESTIMATED HOW NERVOUS WE
WOULD GET.
EVERYONE ALWAYS THINKS BECAUSE
WE HAVE PERFORMED SO
MANY TIMES THAT IT'S EASY.
BUT WHEN WE TAKE TO THE ICE NOW
I'M MORE NERVOUS THAN I HAVE
EVER BEEN.
THE DIFFERENCE IS THAT I CAN
CONTROL IT A LITTLE BIT BETTER
BUT THAT PURE EXCITEMENT CAN BE
A BIT OVERWHELMING.
>> Tessa Virtue: THIS IS ALL
LEADING INTO THE PYEONGCHANG
OLYMPICS AND WE HAVE TO BE
PERFECT IN THOSE MERE MINUTES,
YOU KNOW, ON THE WORLD STAGE.
BUT PERFECTION DOESN'T EXIST.
SO WE'VE HAD TO ADJUST THAT
MINDSET AND TRY TO CHASE
EXCELLENCE INSTEAD.
>> Susan: IT'S UNLIKELY GIVEN
THE STELLAR YEAR THAT YOU'VE HAD
THAT YOU WON'T MEDAL IN THESE
OLYMPICS, BUT IT COULD HAPPEN.
HOW HAVE YOU PSYCHOLOGICALLY
PREPARED FOR THAT?
>> Tessa Virtue: IT'S HARD TO
IMAGINE FAILURE AT THIS POINT
BECAUSE IF WE'RE ABLE TO TAKE
THE ICE IN PYEONGCHANG AND FEEL
THAT WE DID EVERYTHING THAT WE
POSSIBLY COULD TO SET OURSELVES
UP FOR THAT MOMENT, THAT HAS TO
BE ENOUGH.
>> Susan: CAN I ASK YOU ABOUT
2014, MANY PEOPLE THINK THAT
THERE WAS A CONTROVERSY AROUND
THAT GOLD/SILVER ALIGNMENT AND
YOU CAME HOME WITH THE SILVER
AND THE AMERICANS TOOK THE GOLD
AND PEOPLE SUGGESTED THAT THERE
WAS RIGGING IN THE JUDGING.
HAS JUDGING CHANGED?
>> Tessa Virtue: WELL, WHAT
WAS MOST DISHEARTENING ABOUT
THAT WAS THAT WE LOVE SKATING
AND WE WANT OTHER PEOPLE TO FEEL
THE SAME WAY.
AND WHEN ANY KIND OF CONTROVERSY
COMES INTO IT, WHICH IS NATURAL
IN A SUBJECTIVE SPORT, YOU KNOW,
IT DOES SORT OF TARNISH IT.
>> Susan: ARE YOU CONFIDENT
THOUGH THAT IT HAS CHANGED
ENOUGH THAT SUPPORTERS AND FANS
AND SKATERS CAN HAVE FULL
CONFIDENCE IN THE JUDGING?
OTHER PEOPLE SAY TO ME NOT.
>> Scott Moir: WE DO FEEL THAT
THERE HAS BEEN A CHANGE AND WE
DO FEEL THAT THE JUDGING ON
FIGURE SKATING IS IMPROVING.
>> Susan: THE OLYMPICS ARE NOW
SCARCELY EIGHT WEEKS AWAY AND
PYEONGCHANG FINDS ITSELF IN THE
MIDDLE OF GEOPOLITICAL TENSIONS.
WELL, THERE IS OFTEN AN
UNOFFICIAL TRUCE AROUND THE
GAMES THE LEAD-UP HAS BEEN FROTH
-- FRAUGHT
WITH UNSETTLING SIGNALS.
DO YOU HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT WHAT
COULD HAPPEN AT PYEONGCHANG?
>> Tessa Virtue: OF COURSE.
YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT WE'D BE
LYING IF WE SAID THAT THERE
WEREN'T CONCERNS AND IT SOUNDS
SO SELFISH WHEN WE SAY THAT OUR
JOB IS TO FOCUS ON ATHLETICS
BECAUSE THERE'S SO MUCH MORE
HAPPENING
IN THE WORLD AND IT'S SO MUCH
GREATER THAN THAT.
BUT YOU HOPE THAT STAYING TRUE
TO
THE OLYMPIC SPIRIT WE CAN BE
FREE OF THAT FOR ONE MONTH.
>> Susan: DO YOU HAVE ANY FEAR
ABOUT IT?
>> Scott Moir: I FEAR,
OBVIOUSLY, WHENEVER WE HAVE
FAMILY MEMBERS THERE FOR THEIR
SAFETY AND FOR, YOU KNOW,
INNOCENT PEOPLE'S SAFETY, THAT'S
A FEAR OF OURS, BUT, YOU KNOW,
THERE ARE THINGS THAT YOU HAVE
TO KIND OF UNDERSTAND ABOUT THE
POLITICS OF SPORT THAT ARE A
LITTLE BIT OUT OF OUR CONTROL.
AND HOPING THAT THE SPIRIT OF
THE OLYMPIC GAMES CAN -- THE
POSITIVES CAN OUTWEIGH THE
NEGATIVES.
>> Susan: THAT IS A PERFECT
PLACE TO END.
THANK YOU SO MUCH AND WE'LL SEE
YOU IN PYEONGCHANG, I'LL BE
THERE.
>> Scott Moir: I HOPE SO.
>> Susan: ALL OF CANADA WILL BE
ROOTING FOR AND YOU BEST OF
LUCK.
>> Tessa Virtue: THANK YOU SO
MUCH.
>> Scott Moir: THANK YOU SO
MUCH.
>> Ian: WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK BUT
FIRST A REMINDER, YOU CAN GO
DEEPER ON THE STORIES OF THE DAY
EARLIER IN THE DAY, SUBSCRIBE TO
OUR NEWSLETTER AT
cbcnews.ca/thenational.
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>> Andrew: ON "THE NATIONAL"
TONIGHT, AUTHORITIES IN GERMANY
ARE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT
WENT WRONG AFTER A PASSENGER
TRAIN COLLIDED WITH A FREIGHT
TRAIN.
IT HAPPENED AT AROUND 7:30
p.m. LOCAL TIME NEAR THE CITY
OF DÜSSELDORF.
OFFICIALS SAY THAT SEVERAL
PEOPLE WERE HURT, THREE OF THEM
QUITE BADLY.
>>> WELL, THERE MIGHT BE HOPE
YET FOR A CANADIAN TRADE DEAL
WITH CHINA.
IT'S ALL COME RIGHT DOWN TO THE
WIRE.
IN A LAST-MINUTE DECISION THE
CANADIAN TRADE MINISTER DECIDED
TO STAY IN BEIJING TO KEEP
TALKING WITH HIS CHINESE
COUNTERPARTS.
KATIE SIMPSON IS COVERING THE
PRIME MINISTER'S TRIP AND HAS
MORE FROM CHINA ON HOW IT ALL
UNFOLDED TODAY.
>> Reporter: THE LATE-NIGHT
DRAMA STARTED HERE, THE PRIME
MINISTER AND HIS INNER CIRCLE
SITTING DOWN TO TALK TRADE OVER
DINNER WITH CHINA'S MOST
POWERFUL LEADER.
>> Prime Minister Justin
Trudeau: I KNOW THAT AS WE LOOK
TO BUILDING A BETTER FUTURE FOR
THE ENTIRE WORLD, THE FRIENDSHIP
BETWEEN CANADA AND CHINA WILL
PLAY AN IMPORTANT ROLE IN
SETTING THE TONE AND THE
APPROACH THAT WILL CHARACTERIZE
THE 21st CENTURY.
>> Reporter: BY EVENING'S END,
GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS SAY THAT
THERE WAS ENOUGH WILLINGNESS TO
PUSH FORWARD AND HAVE CANADA'S
TRADE MINISTER CANCEL HIS PLANS
AND GO BACK TO THE TABLE.
THE DECISION WAS SO UNEXPECTED
THAT THE MINISTER'S STAFF HAD TO
GET OFF THE PRIME MINISTER'S
PLANE WHICH WAS ABOUT TO DEPART
FOR THE NEXT LEG OF JUSTIN
TRUDEAU'S CHINA TOUR.
>> Interview: WHEN YOU
NEGOTIATE IN CHINA YOU HAVE TO
BE PATIENT IF YOU WANT THE
OUTCOME TO BE BENEFICIAL AND
PROFITABLE FOR YOU.
AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT
MR. TRUDEAU IS DOING IS TAKING
HIS TIME.
>> Reporter: CANADIAN BUSINESS
LEADERS WHO MET WITH TRUDEAU
EARLIER IN THE DAY SAY THEY WERE
REASSURED BY THE GOVERNMENT THAT
IT IS PUSHING BEHIND THE SCENES
TO GET THESE TALKS FORMALLY
LAUNCHED.
>> Interview: I THINK THAT
THEY'RE STILL WORKING AND AS YOU
KNOW I THINK THAT THE TERM IS
THE CAKE IS NOT BAKED YET BUT
THEY'RE VERY ACTIVE.
>> Reporter: IT'S WELCOME NEWS
FOR THEM SINCE THEY FEAR
DIMINISHED ACCESS TO THE
AMERICAN MARKET IF DONALD TRUMP
PULLS OUT OF NAFTA.
>> Interview: FOR US TO MANAGE
THAT RISK IS THAT WE WANT TO BE
ABLE TO DO AGREEMENTS WITH ALL
OF THE OTHER COUNTRIES.
>> Reporter: EVEN THOUGH THE
TRADE MINISTER DID NOT TRAVEL
HERE TO GUANGZHOU WITH THE PRIME
MINISTER IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT A
DEAL IS GUARANTEED BUT IF CANADA
WANT THIS IS TO HAPPEN BEFORE
TRUDEAU RETURNS HOME, TIME IS
RUNNING OUT AS TRUDEAU FLIES
BACK TO OTTAWA IN LESS THAN TWO
DAYS.
KATIE SIMPSON, CBC NEWS,
GUANGZHOU, CHINA.
>> Andrew: SO WHAT IS THE
REPORTING LIKE ON THIS STORY
WITHIN CHINA?
WELL, IT TURNS OUT THAT A LOT OF
THE FOCUS IS ON THE IMPORTANCE
OF RELATIONSHIP BUILDING AND THE
LONG VIEW.
TAKE THIS OP-ED IN THE GLOBAL
TIMES.
THE HEADLINE, CHINA-CANADA TRADE
GREAMENT AGREEMENT NEED NOT RUSH
FOR SUCCESS.
THE AUTHOR SAYS THAT THE BOND
BETWEEN THE TWO COUNTRIES IS
BASIC
BUT NOT YET MATURE AND POINTS TO
A FAMOUS CHINESE PROVERB, THE
MELON WILL FALL OFF THE STEM
WHEN IT IS RIPE.
SUGGESTING THAT THERE MAY BE
HOPE FOR FRUITFUL NEGOTIATIONS
GIVEN TIME.
>>> OKAY, LET'S TAKE YOU BACK TO
NORTH AMERICA.
A POTENTIALLY LANDMARK CASE IS
BEFORE THE U.S. SUPREME COURT
RIGHT NOW PITTING GAY RIGHTS
AGAINST FREEDOM OF SPEECH AND AT
THE CENTRE OF THE CONTROVERSY, A
CHRISTIAN CAKE MAKER.
>> Interview: I'M HERE AT THE
SUPREME COURT TODAY BECAUSE I
RESPECTFULLY DECLINED TO CREATE
A CUSTOM CAKE THAT WOULD
CELEBRATE A VIEW OF MARRIAGE
THAT IS IN DIRECT CONFLICT WITH
MY FAITH CORE TEACHINGS ON
MARRIAGE.
>> Andrew: SO HERE HE IS, JACK
PHILLIPS.
IN 2012 HE REFUSED TO MAKE A
WEDDING CAKE FOR A SAME-SEX
COUPLE.
THEY CALLED IT DISCRIMINATION
AND NOW MORE THAN 5 1/2 YEARS
LATER THAT DISPUTE HAS MADE IT
ALL THE WAY TO THE SUPREME COURT
COURT.
>> Interview: THIS HAS NEVER
BEEN ABOUT A CAKE.
THIS ISN'T ABOUT WEDDINGS.
THIS IS ABOUT FREEDOM.
>> Andrew: BY ALL ACCOUNTS IT
WILL BE A CLOSE DECISION WITH
THIS MAN JUSTICE ANTHONY KENNEDY
LIKELY TO CAST THE DECIDING
VOTE.
HE IS A STAUNCH DEFENDER OF
FREEDOM OF SPEECH BUT HAS ALSO
WRITTEN ALL OF THE SUPREME
COURT'S DECISIONS FAVOURING GAY
RIGHTS.
SO THE DIFFICULT QUESTION HE AND
THE OTHERS WILL NEED TO
ANSWER -- WOULD BAKING A WEDDING
CAKE FOR A SAME-SEX COUPLE HAVE
FORCED PHILLIPS TO GO AGAINST
HIS RELIGIOUS BELIEFS?
NOT A SMALL QUESTION BY ANY
MEASURE AND, OF COURSE, THE
CONSEQUENCES OF THIS DECISION
COULD BE FAR REACHING.
>> Ian: AND IT'S INTERESTING HOW
IT'S BEING FRAMED.
IT'S BEING FRAMED AS A
FREEDOM OF SPEECH ARGUMENT AND
SO WHAT FREEDOM OF SPEECH DO YOU
HAVE IN MAKING A CAKE AND AS THE
JUSTICES ASKED TODAY, WOULD THAT
THEN GO TO THE FREEDOM OF SPEECH
OF A DRESSMAKER?
IT'S ALL VERY INTERESTING.
>> Andrew: YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.
WELL, WE'LL END IT THERE.
THAT IS "THE NATIONAL" FOR
DECEMBER 5th.
HAVE A GREAT NIGHT.
>> Ian: GOODNIGHT.
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