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Knowledge resistance is a tendency to
not want to accept corrections for
misinformation that a person might hold,
and the reasons for knowledge resistance
are pretty varied. Well first I should
probably make it clear that people are
willing to change their minds about some
of their misunderstandings, some
things we have misconceptions about. You
provide somebody with information, they
say oh sure I guess I was wrong about
that, but then there's a whole suite of
other things that people are wrong about,
and are, you know, just resistant to
change their views, and for that second
class of phenomena they tend to be ideas,
or concepts, or opinions that have
consequences for somebody's values, or
their ideologies, or the groups that they
associate with, their tribes if
you will. Well certainly the evidence of
Survey Research doesn't show that, all
the evidence that we have of Americans
and Canadians show that people are
pretty enthusiastic about science, they
want to learn more about science, they
think science is important, they think
science has had positive effects for
society, and they want their kids to study
science, and even become scientists. Know
that it's a misconception that the
anti-vaccination movement is largely a
political Left kind of thing. I think
first you have to realize that the
percentage of Americans who are
anti-vaxxers is minuscule, it's less
than 5%, it's this tiny, tiny little
percentage. The vast majority of
Americans know that vaccinations are
important, they know they save kids lives,
and make them healthier, and all that, and
people do get their kids vaccinated. You
know, it is close to the 93/95 percent
that the CDC wants us to do have, so
you're actually dealing with a very
small amount of variation, number one. But
even with that small amount of variation,
you don't see a strong tendency for
either political left or political right,
you see
some of both, or some of each I guess
would be better grammar. You see some
tendency for anti-vaxxers to be
left-wing, some tendency to be right-wing,
but there's no strong tendency overall
for either right or left. People reject
the sciences, the specific sciences, that
tend to gore their oxen. If accepting
a particular science or a particular
view within science is going to have
consequences for values or ideologies
that you hold dear, you're not going to
want to change them. Ideologies are like
operations, they can be good or bad, it
all depends on the context.
Everybody has ideologies, they can be
benign and they can be toxic.
Having ideologies is a very human thing,
and ideologies are the way that
we decide how to live and how to treat
each other. So no, I don't think
ideologies are bad at all.
I think some ideologies are worth
fighting against, but everybody has
ideologies, and it's silly to
assume that, because I'm a
scientist, because I try to look at the
world rationally, logically, that
therefore ideology is unimportant,
because it's important for everybody.
I think skeptics don't do enough
listening, we talk about 'how do we talk
to people who are anti-evolutionists' or
'how do we talk to climate change deniers'?
Well maybe we should listen to them, we
need to find out what it is about
evolution, or what it is about climate
change that is making people resistant
to change their minds, because it is
quite, it is quite possible to find
common ground,
even with somebody who initially
disagrees with your opinion in the case.
I know the most about anti-evolutionists
because I've spent most of my
professional career dealing with the
anti-evolution movement, and I know a lot
of conservative Christians, I know I have
met and talked with a lot of
anti-evolutionists, and the the major
concern for a very large number of
people who initially appear to not, you
know, want their kids to learn
evolution, or they believe they reject
evolution, is when evolution is
packaged as something that goes along
with disbelief in God. In other words you
have to take the whole package, you
have to be both an atheist and an
evolutionist, which of course is
empirically wrong. I mean we have plenty
of evidence that there are people of
faith who accept evolution and would
teach classes in evolution the same way
I would teach classes in evolution.
What I find conservative Christians most
concerned about is that if their
children are taught evolution in the
schools, they're taught here's the
evidence for evolution scientists are
agreed that living things had common
ancestors,
now take your religion and shove it, and
once, you know, once you sort of get that
belief in people's minds, you need
to get that belief out of there because
that's not what evolution is all about. I
mean nobody says, you know, here's cell
division, here's how the chromosomes line
up in the midline, here are the enzymes
that that formed the spindle fibers that
pull the cells across, now take your
religion and shove it. Nobody even thinks
about looking at all other aspects of
science like that, so why all of a sudden
does evolution have to be an atheistic
science. Evolution is no more
atheistic than cell division.
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