It is very clear what kind of security measures that are needed in South Africa.
You see houses with barbed wire and electric fences all over, there are also
surveillance cameras and private armed guards that patrols the areas.
But there are also security measures that are not so visible - which have more to do with behavior,
that can be very difficult for us Swedes and Europeans to understand.
A book that serves as an eye opener in this regard is "Your Security in South Africa".
We will meet the author of the book, the former police officer Craig Roseveare.
I'm sitting here with Craig Roseveare where it's not how we pronounce it Roseveare Roseveare
is a former police officer and
You recently wrote a book about
your personal safety of security here in South Africa
can tell me why you decided to write this book and
Absolutely journals, and the book. I started writing in
2016 and it was due to the prolific
former texts and four murders in and around the district that I live and
the country South Africa in general and
And it was it was due to the the increase in the level of violence associated with the attacks
And then a personal friend of man was also involved
he was also attacked and
Shot through the jaw it's an you know
it's all tool in the book that I wrote which is titled your security in South Africa and
And I just felt that it wasn't it wasn't enough just to try and and talk to people head
I wanted I felt compelled to get the message through
to as many South Africans as possible because
One of the things that we are going through in South Africa is a form of violence
that is so so intense that you've got you've got you've got rape torture murder and
The South African people, I think a lot of southern people are not aware
Well though if they are where they are not prepared so the message in my book goes to awareness and preparedness
in a country that
Is where the crime rates and the murder rates are so high that you can compare them to a country at war yeah?
and you of course bring in some experience as a police officer and
Can you tell me your experience working in the police
Dealing with this kind of crime where why aren't the police corps here in South Africa?
Effective enough to deal with this crime wave that is facing the white Afrikaners
Well um
Yes, and I do come from a police background
I was a member of the of right unit 8 reaction unit in the early nineteen nineties
We've seen considerable change over the years
I think a lot of it
Could be to do with the resources
the training of the South African Police Force members the support that they getting as well from high up and
Yeah the that that results in a situation where
They're innocent citizens of South Africa and in particular
the farmers are left and
are basically left unprotected and
for them to rely on the authorities being the police force and
You know other?
military authorities that we have in South Africa
They'd be living under sort of false sense of security yeah
Because that was one thing that struck me when I read your book is that your advice
in the routine if you're
feeling danger at your form that you should first call your neighbor and then second you should call your security company and
Only further lost you should call the police
Unfortunately the that has become a reality
South Africa, South Africa has
more private security companies than
any other country in the world and
that in itself is an indication of
the effectiveness unfortunately
of our authorities and
You know one looks at the commitment of the authorities, but I believe that
So much more needs to be done
to to get the authorities back to the level that they should be and
and especially when it comes to the the level of crime the level of of
serious and violent crime that that is plaguing South Africa and
They they have been above hood. I don't want to go into it, but the political situation
But they have been outclassed many aircrafts towards
You know as support to the farmers especially on the stamping because they are that the farmers are living in secluded
areas and
It's very difficult for them so the reaction term of the authorities as well
Is is not where it should be there is no doubt about this sir, so what can they be done? What is the practical?
Examples that they lift up in your book the practical examples
Is that a user quote that people need to repeat? Which is if it is to be it's up to me and
Basically that means that the farmers themselves
Have then have now got to look at very very seriously
They've got to look at from the level of awareness
to the level of preparedness
they've gotten a look at looking after themselves and
because by the term
the
Authorities bring the police and even all those good things which are very very necessary
being the security companies and a lot of they're there and the the
The things that will help them in a situation like that being alarm systems etc
You know by the time the reaction comes it's too late
Those those situations be at the police and even security companies cannot cannot
Permanently look after the farmer or the innocent person in South Africa these the
the brazenness of the criminal is
now such that they are coming in and
They are not they are not scared so the former has to prepare himself that he is going to take action
So the former will be its own bodyguard
Exactly yes
the farmers must in the farmer or innocent person or and you know it now has to has to use systems where and
if you look at
if you look at the different
mental phases and it starts from a chatter a change of
The the the meant the mental the mental change towards the whole aspect is that?
You've got different different
mental phases that you need to look at for example in the book gets quoted and the farmer texts actually and
That you've got a green a green zone where you're not laughing
They'll be attacked for example will be sitting now in at latitude your text will be probably in the green zone
you've got a yellow zone where you couldn't possibly be attacked and
Then the farmer needs to be in what we call a orange zone when you're expecting protect in a technique so expect
unexpected then obviously a red zone is when you are under attack so the farmer needs to live in a constant and a constant and
a situation of of them of
Orange sound where he's expecting an attack at any time and in the book that thing it goes further to explain
To guard person as to what to do
But how do we manage this dressed level of being in this jello zone on a permanent basis?
It's it's it's it has to be a change of mindset
Which the book God's a person through?
It has to be a change of mindset because if one does not have that change of mindset yes
It is a stress level and it can be seen by some people as being paranoid
But there's another phrase that I have a little paranoia leads to a longer laugh
And we we the innocent people of South Africa let ourselves down
by
Burying our heads on the sand and pretending that this is not going to happen and yet it's happening all over the place
So that fear that you are living in yes
it's very real, and it's not understood by a lot of people a lot of people choose to ignore it and
It's not natural. It's not normal. It's civilized people should be living in a situation like this
But I'll go back to it to something that are quite all the time. It's reality yeah, and if one doesn't rise to that occasion
Change one's Manset
Then then then people are highly lucky to become victims of serious and violent crime in South Africa at the moment
Because it's two aspects that you
basically brings up one of the
hard structure of having offence and having the alarm system and point and other is the way you move and think and
regardless
daily routine of
Can you just talk us through how?
Like a Monday morning you as a family father
What are you thinking when you go up and what you need to do?
Well, we talk about routine we talk about the different structures the different
security
Plans that you have to put in place because as I set as I call the book your
Security in South Africa, and that's referring to each and every person
for example now and the typical South African and
Thus being urban or rural?
would wake up in the morning and
You would wake up to
What I call a cell gates which is a gate that cordons off your sleeping quarters?
From the rest of your house, and I call it a soul gate because you're almost imprisoning yourself
But protecting yourself behind the soul gate
so that if criminals do breach from any other part of your house, and this has got to be well planned and
That's why I referred to a weird awareness and preparedness
If you're aware it means your mindset has changed Wood has to be
The preparedness is now putting these things in place and as you see it the routine after that okay
And we can talk about routine, but let's good lord. Let's rather talk about habit
Yeah needs to come into them to action. There is that you've got now but a
Soul gate which
segregates caps off your your sleeping quarters
You've now got to go through
That's all good
but it's a process every time you go through because you you you don't know whether your your your house has been breached and
If you are if you let yourself down
and you don't lock that gate you are then allowing the criminal opportunity to come through and
A lot of people let let themselves down
But not practicing these things and in a country like South Africa you have to do this otherwise
as I said you're going to become a victim and
The other thing is from there
You need to do you need to check that you live be no breaches and house in this process I advise othering and people
Anderson South Africans advise them to be armed advance them to buy a
licensed firearm should go for combat training and
to carry certain other weapons and which are all mentioned in my book and
to have inside dogs for example after -
Pitbull inside dogs that sleep and map in my bedroom and a lot of people are going to think this is paranoid
But in a country like South Africa. This is not paranoia
This is very very real, and then before you actually exit your house for example. You've now got a
another security gate before you open the door and
the procedures that I explained in detail is step by step as to what to do and
Making sure that your lighting systems are correct your alarm systems are correct that you don't have too much
Cover in other words foliage in your garden the criminals can hide behind
The other one is that that
Hive you parked your car
Than that before for when you're going to leave in the morning
because a lot of the situations in South Africa a lot of their tax or hijackings which lead to horrific outcomes and
happened when you are reversing out of your driveway if you change your
Routine or habit routine is a dangerous word because criminals pick up on routine a.m.
They pick up on routines if your car is facing outwards. You don't have that stop the other one too
Is that you need to expect the criminal to breach as you are going through your gate?
So there are so many so many different
Steps to follow them which is all explained in the book
Yeah
Because then you have some certain weak points in your daily habits
For instance opening the gates and someone is waiting for you
Absolutely correct Janice absolutely correct and in that situation you need we now we now go back to that orange
Mental states that orange mental state orange zone are referred to as that
expect the unexpected
Then a country like South Africa you have to expect unexpected
Otherwise you letting yourself down the statistics. They speak for themselves
I don't have to mention figures. They speak for themselves
You're saying that it's dangerous that go from habit to routine because you can be shuttled by they're
Criminals how do you actually avoid that in practical life?
Especially when it comes to this daily things that turn into a routine after a week or two that
that you so true we
We are all brought up to to follow routines, but it's part of laughs
It's part of love
but unfortunately the the criminal will target certain areas and those that is one of the weaknesses that a
Criminal can sit there and what your routine can note the word routine for days on end
That you're leaving at a certain time that you tend to leave that gate open or that door open with that window open?
so what I'm saying is that with the change of mindset is that we need to it's a serious case of introspection and
looking at your
your security
referring to each and every single individual South African innocent South African look at your security
Use this book that I've written as a guard because this book will help guard people
to be able to see whether they are following and
certain
Steps that can help them to bring up the roles of the entire family within this book
Yes, or do I do, it's it's um. I do the family needs to be very involved in in the book
It's now used for example. Just the husband being involved
He does all the security checks
And I refer as well especially in the the chapter 11 to do with Pharma tech security
that the roles of woman have actually had to change in South Africa or need to change and
They need to be more involved in the hot in the entire security
Element you know family element as well and
or and act as
an NF and a form of teamwork
husband and wife and children
You know to a certain level
You know depending on on the age of your children the maturity of the children and I refer to that is that you know?
It's it's it's your security plan each and every person has
there are different dynamics involved than they're in their security plan some of them are very similar and
But if you take the information if a person takes information out of the book, and they use that to prepare
Their security plan that is a huge
Hop and are go as far as saying that if they follow the steps in this book it will reduce their chances by 80 percent
or more
a falling victim to serious or violent trauma, so it's a
preventive measure based on the behavior of the subject
Which will be the formula?
Exactly it is it's a preventative measure
and
In Sweden when we talk about crime, and they're talking about
victims
Preventive message usually are framed as victim blaming that you blame the victim for not
necessarily needs to
think about it security because it's something that should be served them for instance a girl doesn't get raped because the way she's dressed she
Gets raped because of the rapist and it's the rapists are doing wrong
What the comment we have to tell liberals that we'll watch this interview that have that kind of mindset
the criminal the criminal needs to fear Authority yeah, because
My experience from South Africa is that?
If a black man enters your house. You're not allowed to
Maybe take those measurements of security as you wish because
the urge or the URI would say that maybe he just was hungry wanted to see what was into the fridge or
Maybe he just wanted your cell phone or maybe wanted some some money. It wasn't necessary to you to shoot him down
Well you
know
My book is my book is written for all South Africans all innocent South Africans
But you we we use an example of black man, white man Indian men colored men whatever ma'am enters your house
what are they do they're breaching they breaching the the perimeter of your house firstly and
with the precedence that have been set in South Africa and with the statistics of
Not only murders. I mean murder and it's awful
Let's look at it in the context that I said of serious and violent crime
Is that your your your your your rapes your your?
torture the murder
Anybody breaching the perimeter of your house and and a person is still going to
Try and give themselves time to figure out why the person is in the house
And I'll quote from Chapter five in my book which was an article
that I had copyright consent from a very well-known advocate and South Africa and
Where he quotes that they have been situations where people have hesitated in
self-defense and they are now dead
So I think that there just describes that in a country like South Africa if you going to hesitate
In a situation where person has already gone beyond that certain barrier
Then you you are most likely going to be killed so in South Africa especially
we need to we need to live with the situation of
Kill or be killed
There's another quote that I use that rather be judged by a jury of 12, then be carried by a group of six
Which
there are so many precedents that have been set according to the law as well where people have acted in self-defense and
The procedure is that yes you a criminal case will be brought against you of either
manslaughter or murder
But the transfers have you've been convicted in a soft defense situation and South Africa in many countries in the world
and we've seen it just recently with a very elderly gentleman in the UK and
Where he was charged
But he was not convicted because he was acting in self-defense so
For any legal system to take away a person's right for self-defence and they cannot themselves
protect that person they
They are then taking away your right to live your right just for survival
So what I'm saying is that if you feel that your life is threatened?
Then we have to live by that same rather be judged by a jury of 12 then carried by a group of six
Because as I said you're gonna land up dead in the country like
Yeah, thank you very much, and I must say that what I brought with me the most
with Craig's book was
The shocking understanding of the daily routines that every South African needs to go through every single day
because it's not comprehensible for our first success we dushman or
Swedish family living in safe society because we don't need to think in those terms
so thank you for a good good eye-opener and
I
encourage everyone that
want to understand the situation of South Africa to actually buy this book and I read it because it will open your eyes to -
through a situation that is
That you are living under
Right, thank you very much, Janice
thank you for for for for the opportunity to chat you and
Hopefully it does help South Africans and helps and people throughout the world because I also believe that
The world in general has slowed
They're still going to see things and they get they see similar things that are going to affect them
So the book will help anybody throughout the world
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