(Singing) I know my God has made the way for
me. I know my God has made the way for me.
ANNOUNCER: Welcome to the Believer's Voice of
Victory. Today, join Gloria and Kellie Copeland
as they prove from scripture that our walk with
God will produce real fruit and real credentials
that reveal our faith in Jesus Christ as Lord.
GLORIA: Hello, everybody. I'm Gloria Copeland, and
welcome to the Believer's Voice of Victory. Kellie
is with us today to share some good things. We're going to
have some stirring revelation today, in Jesus' name. Amen. So
we're glad you're here. Just sit back and enjoy the Word of God.
We're talking about the fruit of the Spirit, which is a very
important--very important thing, asset, that happened to us when
we got born again. And now it has to be developed and yielded
to, and that's where--that's where all the awesome flow of
peace and blessing and increase, and your faith works good when
you're walking in joy and leave and peace. Hallelujah. So,
Kellie, we're all ears. KELLIE: You could say we're talking
about the fruit of the Spirit. You could say we're talking
about oneness with Jesus because that's how it struck me, that
the result of oneness with Jesus is the fruit or the proof or the
evidence that He is in you. And, really, we could relegate the
phrase, "fruit of the Spirit," as a nice phrase for a coffee
mug or a--you know, a plaque on your wall that came from the
Christian bookstore. Or, we can really break that down and
understand-- GLORIA: Yes, amen. KELLIE: --that, by walking with
Jesus, that's walking in the Spirit. Oneness with Him is
walking in the Spirit. And as He said--as we're going to read
this week and next, when you walk in the Spirit, you don't
fulfill the lusts of the flesh, you don't walk in the works of
the flesh. GLORIA: That's right. KELLIE: But so many people, they
want to do what God's asking them to do, they have a desire
to have a new life, but they're missing that step of oneness
with Him which makes those things come out of you. Instead,
they're trying to make those things happen in their lives,
which Satan doesn't mind if you're on that gerbil wheel the
rest of your life, trying to please God, trying to please
God. But our life with Him is not about that. (Coughing)
Excuse me. So we're going to break that down. And to me--
GLORIA: Okay. I like the fruit of the Spirit. KELLIE: --it's
exciting because we're talking about the difference between
keeping the law and a relationship with Jesus. GLORIA:
That's right. Praise God. KELLIE: You know, one of the
callings of this ministry is to help people go from religion to
reality, you know, religion to relationship with Jesus. So it's
exciting. It's an exciting study. I got so caught up in it
that I've--I--you know, I didn't really, necessarily make that
good of notes because I was just reading. I kept reading. I've
started--a lot of this week and next week, I'll be--I usually
read out of the New Living, which I really enjoy. But I've
been reading The Passion Translation and I highly
recommend it. We're going to start, though, in Philippians 3.
And if you see something you want to bring out that's in your
translation there--but I'm going to start with The Passion
Translation-- GLORIA: Okay. KELLIE: --in Philippians 3. I
have got this thing all marked up. So if it's all right with
you, we'll just read and stop and talk as we see-- GLORIA:
Okay. KELLIE: --something that we need to discuss. But it was
just so good. GLORIA: Okay, teacher, you've got it. KELLIE:
I got it. I got my glasses on. I'm ready to go. GLORIA: You
look--you look the part. KELLIE: (Laughs) I look smart? It says,
"My beloved ones, don't ever limit your joy or fail to
receive--fail to rejoice in the wonderful experience of knowing
our Lord Jesus." I thought, "You know, that really expresses
'fruit'." Don't limit your joy or fail to rejoice in the
wonderful experience. See, we know Jesus. It's not just
something that happens on a piece of paper or, "Okay, now we
can check that off," or you get a certificate or you read in the
Bible what knowing Jesus is about. But there's no
experiencing--that's not life with Him. If that's the way your
life is, you think, "Well--" GLORIA: Well, that's--it's a
good start. KELLIE: Well, yeah. You start there, but life with
Him is experiential. GLORIA: Absolutely. KELLIE: And so if
you feel like, "Well, I'm not experiencing Jesus," you will by
the end of this week and next week. You will be experiencing
Him in your daily life because this is what He's all about. He
says--Verse 3 says, "We have--We've already experienced
heart circumcision and we serve God in the power and the freedom
of the Holy Spirit." You know, walking in these things brings
power, but it also brings freedom. God wants us free. As I
said, Jesus paid a high price for us to be free. "We are those
who boast in what Christ Jesus has done and not in what we can
accomplish in our own strength." I wrote in my Bible here,
"Martha." That's--she was accomplishing what she was
accomplishing in her own strength. And it was frustrating
her. And Jesus says, "Girl, you are so distracted." GLORIA:
"You're troubled about many things." KELLIE: "You are
troubled about many things." So we're going to look at that in a
little bit, but--but I started thinking about how much of her
own strength was involved in what she was doing. And Mary was
sitting, receiving from Jesus. "It's true that I once relied on
all that I had become. I had a reason to boast to impress
people with my accomplishments more than others." And he goes
on to talk about his pedigree, his--he's born a true Hebrew,
son of a Jewish man, circumcised, raised strict
Orthodox Judaism. I mean, we're talking Paul here. He was--he
was of the best of the best. He says, "Living a separated and
devout life." He lists his credentials that he used to base
his life on. And, you know, that's so easy to do, especially
if you've been a Christian for a while. You can start basing
your-- "Well, you should listen to me because da-da-da-da-da,"
or "I can make this decision because, you know, I've had so
much success already in my ministry or in my business." You
know, our credentials should never be more than the fact that
we have the Spirit of God on the inside of us. Sure, you
accomplish things with Jesus. Sure, you--He's given you gifts
that were gifts, not because you were so awesome. I mean, He
gives us gifts, but if we don't keep our mind on that, and we
start living by our credentials--you know what I
notice here? He talks about living a separated and devout
life as a Pharisee. You know, he didn't talk about being
separated to Jesus and separated to God, he was living his
separated life as a Pharisee. Well, we could live a separated
life as a, "Well, I'm nondenominational. Well, I'm a
preacher." GLORIA: Well, when you get to heaven, Paul may want
to discuss some of these things with you-- KELLIE: That's right.
GLORIA: --if you get too critical. KELLIE: That's right.
Well, you know, "I'm living my separated life. I'm a Baptist.
I'm a this. Well, I'm a this." Whatever that is, that is not,
"I am born again and Jesus is my Savior," those are our real
credentials. And, of course, we appreciate the things that we
know. But we don't live our life from the power of that place
because what happens is it makes you judgmental. You begin living
your separated life as whatever class of person you are, you
begin to judge other people that aren't like you. You know,
recently, Mom--and all of this speaks of grace. Recently, the
Lord really--He was talking to me about not being judgmental
and talking to me about grace. And He said, "Everything--" This
is the way--this is the way I heard it: Everything that I
know, that I might think, "I'm so glad I know that about the
Lord," or "I'm so glad I know that about the Word," or "I'm so
glad I know this truth," whatever it is, about raising
kids or about preaching or about being kind or being loving or
how I might handle things--and even the things I've learned in
the last few years, I feel like I've learned more in the last
three or four years than I learned in 50 years. But
everything that I know is--that's good is by the grace
of God. If I know it, and it's something that's helpful and
good to me, then it's because of the grace of God. He taught it,
He opened my eyes to it, He showed it to me. GLORIA: Yes,
that's right. KELLIE: So if I get caught up in the know--in my
own knowing of it, instead of the grace of God of it, then it
allows me to become judgmental of somebody else that's not
walking in what I know. But if the grace of God showed me what
I know, then the--then one of the biggest reasons for it other
than the fact that He loves me--one of the biggest reasons
He shows me something is so I can show it to somebody else,
not just--like, not in a finger-wagging way, but to be
able to be the open book of grace that His Holy Spirit was
to me, or maybe another preacher was to me, an open book--maybe
it was you. You've shown me so much of the grace of God. I
learned much from you, but you didn't judge me. You just stuck
with me all these many--lo many years. And so if I know
something, it is not only the grace of God for me, it's the
grace of God in me for you if it's something you don't know.
Well, you can--it's so hard to be judgmental and have that
attitude about stuff because you realize that only by the grace
of God do I know it. GLORIA: Absolutely. KELLIE: So having
that attitude in your mind really does set you free from
being judgmental. But being--having the mindset of
your credentials and what you accomplish totally sets you up
to be judgmental of somebody else because you've forgotten
who you got that from. I just thought that was good. He says,
"Concerning the righteousness of the Torah, no one surpassed me.
I was without peer and a fiery defender of the truth." So you
can defend the truth and still be in the wrong if your heart is
not in it as a connection to Jesus, if you're mindful of your
own abilities. He says, though, "Yet all of the accomplishments
that I once took credit for, I've now forsaken them, and I
regard it all as nothing compared to the delight of
experiencing Jesus Christ as my Lord." GLORIA: Praise God.
KELLIE: He said, "All that is nothing." He said, "To truly
know Him meant letting go of everything from my past,
throwing all my boasting and all that I thought made me better
than others on the garbage heap. It's all like a pile of manure
to me now so that I may be enriched in the reality--the
reality of knowing Jesus Christ, and embrace Him as Lord in all
of His greatness." So you let go of all of your greatness to
embrace Him in all of His greatness. So, really, that's in
essence what we're talking about when you talk about the fruit of
the Spirit. So I'm connecting these, embracing His greatness
inside of us, as opposed to our own abilities which is a work of
the flesh. GLORIA: Yeah. KELLIE: And if you look at the works of
the flesh, you know, they keep you from really knowing Him.
Pride--or maybe I should say this: "They're the result of not
really knowing Jesus." Pride is like a wall, but when you--He
has breached that wall. Jesus has breached the walls. But
pride and ego and shame and all of the--all the works of the
flesh, you build up your own wall to Jesus. He's breached the
wall, the wall that needs to be breached. And you have to get in
His feet. There's no wall between Him and you, but there
can be a wall between you and Him. That sounds the same, but
it's not. There's no wall from Him coming this way, but the
walls get built up by our flesh going from us to Him because
He's done everything He can do to fill us with Himself. So we
have to draw near. As we draw near, He draws near. "My passion
is to be consumed with Him and not cling to my own
righteousness based on keeping the written law. My
righteousness will be His based on the faith of Jesus Christ." I
thought this was really good. His faith is engaged in our
coming to Him. He is actively believing and engaged His faith
for you and I to be in His exact image-- GLORIA: Praise God.
KELLIE: --for us to look like Him, for our righteousness to be
based--our righteousness is based on His faith. So I thought
that was really good. I'm going to--we'll come back to right
here because all of these things talk about focus. Well, let
me--let me finish this right here. Let me finish a couple of
these and then we're going to go to Mary and Martha. He says, "By
His faith, I will fully experience oneness with Jesus."
We couldn't have oneness with Jesus, had Jesus not exercised
His faith for us to be able to be one with Him. He exercised
His faith. He did the work. He did all of the doing that needed
to be done from His part for us to be one with Him. It says, "By
His faith, I will fully experience oneness with Jesus--"
I love this, "--and the explosive power of His
resurrection working in me." When you start living in
oneness-- GLORIA: Praise God. KELLIE: --with Jesus, His
resurrection power begins to explode. What does it mean to
explode? Come out of its box, come out of its shell, come out
of its place in your heart, and come out out here. And what does
that describe? It describes fruit. You know, fruit is out
here. You call it--we call it the fruit of the Spirit because
it's the outgo of being--having a spirit inside of us. But until
you let that come out, it's really not fruit yet. If you're
not walking in it-- GLORIA: It's not ripe. KELLIE: --it's just
inside the tree. But we're going to hear, this week and next
week, about how to get what's been deposited in you from in
here out here, because when it comes out here, it begins to
affect all of your life in a--like this says, "an explosive
power of His resurrection." "I will be one within His--in Him
and His sufferings and I will be one with Him in His death--in
His--I'll be one with Him, receiving the new life that He
gave me--" That is--there's a sense of suffering in that
because you don't just do what flows. You have to stand up and
stand for something. But, "I am one with Him in His death," and
that--the old is gone. The old nature is gone and there's a new
nature that's come. "Only then will I be able to experience
complete oneness with Him in His resurrection from the realm of
death," or from bondage. He says, "I haven't acquired the
absolute fullness that I'm pursuing, but I run with passion
into His abundance." He has it all. We haven't attained it all
yet. But when you begin to get intimate with Him, when you
begin to experience oneness with Him, that begins to come out of
your life, and we begin to grow in these things. He says, "So
that I run with passion into His abundance so I may reach the
destiny that Christ Jesus--Jesus Christ has called me to fulfill
and He wants me to discover." Isn't that good? "I don't depend
on my own strength to accomplish this, however, I have one
compelling focus." So think about Mary and Martha again,
depending on our own strength--she depended on her
own strength, but Mary had one compelling focus, "I forget all
the past as I fasten my heart to the future instead. I run
straight for the divine invitation of reaching the
heavenly goal and gaining the victory prize for the anointing
of Jesus. So let all who are fully mature have this same
passion. If anybody's not gripped by these desires, God
will reveal it to them." We're not in this by ourselves. "He
will open our eyes to these things and let us advance
together to reach this victory prize following one path with
one passion." Now, I'm going to come back to this, but I want to
talk--I want to go briefly to Mary and Martha. In Luke
10--turn over to Luke 10:38. This is--well, I pray you stick
with us this week and next because I really believe that
this is life changing. It's changed my life in so many ways.
He has changed my life with these truths. And I
believe--and, Mom, it's changed your life with the fruit of the
Spirit, the truth. GLORIA: Mm-hmm. KELLIE: So it'll change
your life, too. Mary and Martha, Luke 10:38, let's--Mom, do you
want--read this in the Amplified for me. 10:38, it's like right
in here. GLORIA: "Now while they were on their way, it occurred
that Jesus entered a certain village, and a woman named
Martha received and welcomed Him into her house." How much do you
want me to read? KELLIE: Let's just read the--till the end of
42. GLORIA: "And she had a sister named Mary, who seated
herself at the Lord's feet, and was listening to His teaching."
That's where I'd be, too. Then, "But Martha, overly occupied and
too busy, was just--was distracted with much serving;
and she came up to Him and said, Lord, is it--" "Don't you care?"
in other words. "Is it nothing to You that my sister has left
me to serve alone? Tell her then--" Doesn't that sound like
sisters? "Tell her then to help me to lend a hand and do her
part along with me! But--" That sounds just like something kids
would do. "But the Lord replied to her by saying, Martha,
Martha, you are anxious and troubled about many things;
there is need of only one or but a few things. Mary has chosen
the good portion, that which is to her advantage, which shall
not be taken away from her." KELLIE: You know, in this--I
think it's in this Passion Translation, it says, "I won't
take it away." Because you realize Martha went to Him
wanting Him to make Mary do something different. GLORIA:
Yeah. KELLIE: And He was like, "I won't take that away from
her." And it--Satan can't take it away from her. But she chose
the advantageous--advantageous thing-- GLORIA: She chose the
Word. KELLIE: She chose to sit at His feet and listen to what
He had to say. Now, you know, there are things that we have to
do. But He didn't correct her for serving. He corrected
her--we talked about this the last time we were on the
broadcast. He corrected her for her distraction, for her
worries, for her care, for her anxiety. I mean, she could've,
you know, just forgot about fixing food and sat down, but
she also could have served people the food or fixed the
food with a different heart about it and could have been
tuned in to Him as she was working. We do have to work.
There's work to be done, but it's how you do your work. Are
you doing your work in the flesh? She was a hundred percent
totally in the flesh, doing her work there with Jesus in the
room. GLORIA: I think you have to manage to do both. KELLIE:
You do. You do. You have to manage that. And you have to
serve. And the Word says-- GLORIA: Times. KELLIE: --to
serve as unto Him. GLORIA: Yeah. KELLIE: So she didn't even come
to Jesus and say, "Jesus, I know everybody has to be fed, but I
want what you're giving. That's a priority to me." Jesus had an
answer for that. But she didn't even go to Jesus wanting Him to
help her. GLORIA: Yeah. KELLIE: All she wanted was Him to make
her do something. And so her-- GLORIA: I'd say she had gotten
in a little strife. KELLIE: Yeah. But, you know what, Mom?
That is the work of the flesh. GLORIA: Yeah. KELLIE: And
whenever you strive, whenever you get into the flesh, whenever
you do things--whether you're a boss, a parent, a child, a
sister or brother, when you deal with people through the work of
the flesh, that's what's going to happen, is troubles, hurt,
hardship. But we've been--something has been
in--deposited in us. And in that moment, He was depositing into
Mary all that He could, you know, because He wasn't in her.
He could just put His Word in her. But my goodness, think
about where we are. We have the Spirit of the living God
deposited in us. So what happens when His Word comes in us, we
can do anything. GLORIA: Praise God. KELLIE: We can do anything
He tells us to do. But we do it from the place of the Spirit and
at His feet as opposed to focused on what you have to do
and how you have to do it as a work of the flesh. GLORIA:
Praise God. KELLIE: So tomorrow, I want to get into--you know,
keep going into this oneness with Jesus. And I
really--honestly, Mom, we're just going to go as we go
and see where it leads us. GLORIA: Okay. That
sounds good. Kellie and I will be right back
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