ANNOUNCER: THIS PROGRAM HAS BEEN MADE POSSIBLE
BY THE FRIENDS AND PARTNERS OF JOYCE MEYER MINISTRIES.
JOYCE: WE TRY TO COVER UP THE JUNK.
BUT WE KNOW IT'S STILL THERE.
AND SO WE JUST KEEP FEELING BAD ABOUT IT AND KEEP FEELING BAD
ABOUT IT.
WELL, JESUS DIDN'T COVER IT UP.
HE KILLED IT.
[MUSIC]
JOYCE: WELL, GOD HAS A REMARKABLE EXCHANGE POLICY.
WHEN WE GIVE HIM EVERYTHING WE ARE AND ESPECIALLY EVERYTHING
WE'RE NOT, HE GIVES US EVERYTHING HE IS
AND EVERYTHING HE HAS.
HE DOESN'T WANT US DRAGGING OUR PAST HURTS AND MISTAKES
AROUND WITH US; HE WANTS US TO EXCHANGE THEM FOR HIS BEAUTY.
WATCH THIS TEACHING ABOUT THE GREAT EXCHANGE
AND LATER, I'LL ANSWER SOME OF YOUR QUESTIONS ON THIS TOPIC.
JOYCE: WHY DON'T YOU JUST GATHER UP ALL THE ASHES
OUT OF YOUR ASH PIT.
I GOT MINE RIGHT HERE.
SEE, THE THING IS, IS IF YOU WANNA EXCHANGE WITH GOD, YOU'VE
GOTTA GIVE UP THE OLD STUFF TO GET THE NEW STUFF.
[AUDIENCE CHEERING]
JOYCE: THAT MEANS I CAN'T HANG ON TO THESE.
I CAN'T--YOU KNOW, HE SAID, "I'LL GIVE YOU BEAUTY
FOR ASHES," NOT BEAUTY AND ASHES.
[AUDIENCE LAUGHING]
JOYCE: AND SO I'VE GOTTA GET RID OF ALL THIS STUFF.
I DON'T GET TO HAVE A PIT DAY WHERE I GO SIT IN MY PIT
AND FEEL SORRY FOR MYSELF AND GO OVER ALL MY ASHES AGAIN
OF MY MESSED UP LIFE.
YOU KNOW WHY?
BECAUSE WHOEVER AND WHATEVER THIS REPRESENTS DIED
ON THE CROSS WITH JESUS CHRIST AND I'VE BEEN RESURRECTED
TO A BRAND-NEW LIFE AND A BRAND-NEW ME
AND I'M NOT WAITING FOR GOD TO DO SOMETHING IN MY LIFE.
HE'S ALREADY DONE EVERYTHING IN MY LIFE THAT HE NEEDS TO DO.
HE'S WAITING FOR ME TO BELIEVE IT.
[AUDIENCE CHEERING]
JOYCE: AMEN?
IF JUST BY THE MERCY AND THE GRACE AND THE GOODNESS
OF GOD, HE WOULD TOUCH YOU THIS AFTERNOON AND YOU WOULD
GO HOME AND SAY, "I'M JUST GONNA BELIEVE WHAT YOU SAY, GOD.
IF YOU SAY YOU LOVE ME, I BELIEVE YOU LOVE ME.
IF YOU SAY I CAN DO ANYTHING, I BELIEVE I CAN DO ANYTHING.
IF YOU TELL ME ALL THINGS ARE POSSIBLE WITH YOU,
THEN I BELIEVE ALL THINGS ARE POSSIBLE WITH YOU.
I DON'T CARE HOW I FEEL.
I DON'T CARE HOW LONG IT TAKES.
I DON'T CARE WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE.
I DON'T CARE WHAT PEOPLE SAY.
I DON'T CARE WHAT THE DEVIL SAYS.
I BELIEVE."
[AUDIENCE CHEERING]
[BELL RINGING]
[AUDIENCE LAUGHING]
GINGER: HEY, GORGEOUS.
JOYCE: HEY! WHOO-HOO, I LIKE THAT.
CAN I HEAR THAT AGAIN?
GINGER: HEY, GORGEOUS.
JOYCE: YOU SEE THIS MESS?
GINGER: OOH, MM-HMM, UH-HUH.
JOYCE: THAT'S MY LIFE.
I CAN'T KEEP 'EM?
GINGER: JUST DUMP 'EM RIGHT OUT HERE.
JUST GET RID OF 'EM.
PUT 'EM RIGHT THERE, HONEY.
JOYCE: OKAY, SWEETIE.
GINGER: YEAH, ALL RIGHT.
JOYCE: BUT WAIT, WHAT DO I GET?
GINGER: WE'RE GONNA TAKE THIS AWAY.
WE'RE GONNA TAKE THIS ONE.
JOYCE: WHAT DO I GET?
GINGER: JUST THE RIGHT THING FOR YOU.
LOOK AT THIS.
JOYCE: OHHH!
LOOK AT THAT! I AM SO EXCITED.
I AM SO EXCITED!
WHOO HOO-HOO-HOO.
[AUDIENCE APPLAUDING]
JOYCE: YOU KNOW, I LOVE BEAUTIFUL THINGS.
THERE'S A WORD THAT THEY USE IN AUSTRALIA A LOT THAT I
REALLY WISH WE HAD ENOUGH SENSE TO USE HERE.
BEAUTIFUL.
DARLENE ZSCHECH'S A GOOD FRIEND OF MINE.
WAS ONE OF THE MOST PRECIOUS PEOPLE ON THE PLANET AND SHE
ALWAYS SAYS, "BEAUTIFUL."
JUST--HALF THE TIME YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT SHE'S TALKING
ABOUT, BUT IT'S JUST--
[AUDIENCE LAUGHING]
JOYCE: "IT'S JUST BEAUTIFUL."
YOU KNOW WHAT?
I LOVE BEAUTIFUL PEOPLE, AND I'M NOT TALKING
ABOUT BEAUTIFUL ON THE OUTSIDE.
I JUST LOVE TO HANG OUT WITH BEAUTIFUL PEOPLE,
PEOPLE THAT MAKE YOU FEEL GOOD.
PEOPLE THAT ARE JUST FUN.
THEY'RE JUST NOT SO INTENSE.
I JUST--TELL YOU WHAT, I'VE HAD ENOUGH INTENSE TO LAST ME
FIVE MORE LIFETIMES.
I DON'T WANT ANY MORE, "LET'S SIT AROUND AND BE INTENSE."
[AUDIENCE LAUGHING]
JOYCE: I JUST WANT BEAUTIFUL.
OH, LORD, YOU ARE BEAUTIFUL.
WHAT CAN YOU SAY ABOUT JESUS EXCEPT, "YOU ARE BEAUTIFUL,
BEAUTIFUL, BEAUTIFUL"?
THE EXCHANGED LIFE--I GIVE HIM WHAT I AM AND ESPECIALLY WHAT
I'M NOT, AND HE GIVES ME EVERYTHING HE IS AND EVERYTHING
HE HAS.
IN MYSELF, I'M A POOR, MISERABLE SINNER.
IN HIM--
[AUDIENCE CHEERING]
JOYCE: I AM THE RIGHTEOUSNESS OF GOD IN CHRIST.
[AUDIENCE CHEERING]
JOYCE: OKAY, CHECK THIS OUT.
ISAIAH 64:6, "FOR WE HAVE ALL
BECOME LIKE ONE WHO IS UNCLEAN
[CEREMONIALLY, LIKE A LEPER], AND ALL OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS
(OUR BEST DEEDS OF RIGHTNESS AND JUSTICE) IS LIKE FILTHY RAGS
OR A POLLUTED GARMENT."
MEGAN, CAN YOU COME OUT HERE, PLEASE?
THIS IS THE WAY WE ARE WHEN WE--IN OUR OWN SELF.
THIS IS MEGAN'S PRE-CHRIST
FILTHY RAGS, MESSED UP,
MISERABLE LIFE.
IF WE COULD EXCHANGE THAT FOR SOMETHING ELSE,
WOULD YOU LIKE IT?
YOU TIRED OF THIS?
TIRED OF LIVING LIKE THIS, DRAGGING THESE CHAINS AROUND,
HANGING YOUR HEAD DOWN, BEING MISERABLE ALL THE TIME?
WELL, LET'S SEE.
LET'S SEE WHAT WE'VE GOT OVER HERE FOR YOU.
[BELL RINGING]
GINGER: HELLO.
JOYCE: HELLO.
GINGER: AWW.
JOYCE: AWW.
[AUDIENCE LAUGHING]
JOYCE: BUT YOU KNOW WHAT?
SHE TOLD ME SHE'S SORRY THAT SHE'S LIVED LIKE THIS
AND SHE WANTS A NEW LIFE.
GINGER: THAT'S MY FAVORITE ONE TO DO.
JOYCE: IS IT? THAT'S THE FAVORITE ONE TO DO!
OKAY, WE'RE--LET'S SEE IF WE CAN TRADE THIS FOR SOMETHING, OKAY.
GINGER: YEAH, LET ME HAVE THAT OLD DIRTY RAG.
JOYCE: LET'S SEE WHAT WE GOT HERE THAT WE CAN TRADE FOR THIS.
GINGER: ALL RIGHT, I'M GONNA TAKE THIS ONE.
YOU DON'T NEED THIS ANYMORE.
JOYCE: NO, YOU'LL NEVER GET THAT BACK AGAIN.
LET'S SEE WHAT WE GOT HERE NOW.
GINGER: LOOK AT THIS.
JOYCE: UH-OH!
MAN, I KNOW WHAT THIS IS 'CAUSE I GOT ONE.
THE ROBE OF RIGHTEOUSNESS.
WHOO!
HALLELUJAH!
WHOA, LET'S SEE THAT PRETTY FACE OF YOURS.
OKAY, LET'S GET YOU ALL FIXED UP HERE.
WHOA.
I'LL TELL YOU WHAT.
OKAY, NOW WE SEE THERE IS A LITTLE PROBLEM.
IT'S A MITE BIG FOR HER.
BUT BOY, HERE COMES THE GOOD LESSON.
WHEN WE GET THE RIGHTEOUSNESS OF GOD, IT'S TOO BIG
FOR ALL OF US.
[AUDIENCE CHEERING]
[AUDIENCE CHEERING]
JOYCE: BUT NOW, IS SHE GONNA GROW INTO THIS DUDE, AMEN?
AND IF YOU LOOK AT THIS FROM A SPIRITUAL STANDPOINT,
ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE CAN'T BELIEVE WHAT GOD'S DONE
FOR US IS BECAUSE IT'S, LIKE, WELL,
WE JUST CAN'T BELIEVE IT.
IT'S JUST, LIKE, HOW COULD I POSSIBLY BE THE RIGHTEOUSNESS
OF GOD?
HOW IS THAT POSSIBLE?
IT'S POSSIBLE BECAUSE GOD SAYS SO.
AND LOOKING AT IT SPIRITUALLY, AND I HAD THIS WHOLE DEAL
PLANNED OUT, I'M GONNA BYPASS JUST TO SAVE TIME WHERE WE HAD
ANOTHER PERSON THAT WAS A LITTLE BIGGER AND ANOTHER
PERSON THAT WAS A LITTLE BIGGER AND ANOTHER PERSON THAT WAS
A LITTLE BIGGER AND THEN PRETTY SOON WE GOT TO SOMEBODY
THIS THING WOULD FIT.
BUT YOU SEE, WHAT HAPPENS IS, AS YOU KEEP GROWING--
[AUDIENCE CHEERING]
JOYCE: C'MON, AS YOU KEEP GROWING,
I SAID AS YOU KEEP GROWING--
[AUDIENCE CHEERING]
JOYCE: BUT HERE'S THE THING.
WHILE YOU'RE GROWING, YOU DON'T WANNA--YOU CANNOT MISS THIS.
IF YOU MISS THIS, I HAVE MISSED MY WHOLE POINT TODAY.
WHILE YOU'RE GROWING INTO THIS,
IT'S STILL 100% YOURS.
[AUDIENCE CHEERING]
JOYCE: C'MON, C'MON.
AND I'VE GOT A SECRET FOR YOU.
IT'S ALWAYS GONNA BE A LITTLE BIT BIG AND THAT'S GOD'S PLAN.
C'MON, GIVE GOD A BIG PRAISE.
THANK YOU, MEGAN.
WHOO-HOO-HOO-HOO-HOO-HOO-HOO.
OH, JESUS, THIS IS SO MUCH BETTER THAN I THOUGHT IT
MIGHT BE.
YOU GOTTA LEARN HOW TO RECEIVE MERCY.
NOW, I'M GONNA TELL YOU SOMETHING, AND I CERTAINLY DON'T
MEAN TO SOUND OVERLY SPIRITUAL 'CAUSE I'M CERTAINLY NOT.
BUT I SUFFERED SO TERRIBLY WITH GUILT AND SHAME,
AND ESPECIALLY GUILT.
I TELL YOU, IF I DIDN'T FEEL WRONG, I DIDN'T FEEL RIGHT.
DID YOU HEAR WHAT I SAID?
I SAID IF I DIDN'T FEEL WRONG, I DIDN'T FEEL RIGHT.
FEELING GUILTY AND WRONG WAS A WAY OF LIFE FOR ME.
IT STARTED WHEN I WAS A LITTLE GIRL AND MY FATHER
WAS SEXUALLY ABUSING ME AND I, SOMEHOW OR ANOTHER,
THE DEVIL CONVINCED ME THAT IT WAS MY FAULT, WHICH IS STUPID.
WHY WOULD IT BE A LITTLE 5- OR 6-YEAR-OLD KID'S
FAULT IF THEIR GROWN FATHER IS SEXUALLY ABUSING THEM?
BUT THE DEVIL ALWAYS SAYS, "IT'S YOUR FAULT."
ARE YOU OUT THERE?
HE ALWAYS SAYS, "IT'S YOUR FAULT.
IF YOU WERE BETTER.
IF YOU WERE DIFFERENT.
IT'S YOUR FAULT."
AND SO MANY PEOPLE SUFFER WITH GUILT THEIR WHOLE
ENTIRE LIFE OVER SOMETHING.
EVEN IF IT IS SOMETHING YOU DID, IT'S SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN
TAKEN TO THE CROSS.
OUR SIN NOT ONLY-- IN THE OLD TESTAMENT,
SIN WAS COVERED, BUT IT WAS STILL THERE, JUST COVERED.
IT WAS LIKE A BIG LUMP OF DIRT UNDER THE CARPET.
C'MON, WHEN I WAS A KID, I USED TO DO THAT.
MY MOTHER'D TELL ME TO CLEAN THE TABLE AND I'D SWIPE
ALL THE CRUMBS OFF ON THE FLOOR AND STICK 'EM
UNDER THE THROW RUG.
[AUDIENCE LAUGHING]
JOYCE: AND THAT'S WHAT WE TRY TO DO WITH OUR LIVES.
WE TRY TO COVER UP THE JUNK.
BUT WE KNOW IT'S STILL THERE.
AND SO WE JUST KEEP FEELING BAD ABOUT IT AND KEEP FEELING BAD
ABOUT IT.
WELL, JESUS DIDN'T COVER IT UP.
HE KILLED IT.
HE KILLED IT.
HE TOOK IT TO THE CROSS AND IT DIED THERE WITH HIM.
HE DIED; AND WHEN WE DIED WITH HIM, THE BIBLE SAYS
IN ROMANS 6 THAT WE DIED TO SIN.
NOW SIN IS NOT DEAD.
IT'S STILL OUT THERE TEMPTING US AND THREATENING US, BUT WE'RE
DEAD TO IT.
I DON'T DO THAT ANYMORE 'CAUSE I DON'T WANNA DO THAT ANYMORE.
THAT'S NOT WHAT I WANNA DO ANYMORE BECAUSE I'M A NEW
CREATURE IN CHRIST AND WHEN THE DEVIL TELLS YOU YOU DO WANNA
DO IT, YOU ARE LISTENING TO THE WRONG PERSON BECAUSE IF
YOU'RE BORN AGAIN, THERE'S A DEEPER PART OF YOU THAT DOES
NOT WANT TO DO WHAT'S WRONG.
YOU WANT TO DO WHAT'S RIGHT.
[AUDIENCE CHEERING]
JOYCE: GOD'S MERCY IS NEW EVERY DAY.
AND I FIGURED OUT THAT'S BECAUSE WE USED UP ALL OF YESTERDAY'S
YESTERDAY.
HE NEEDS TO MAKE A NEW BATCH EVERY DAY FOR NOBODY ELSE,
JUST FOR ME.
JOYCE: WELL, IT'S SO REASSURING TO KNOW THAT WE
CAN GO BOLDLY TO GOD'S THRONE AND RECEIVE HIS MERCY.
HE GIVES US A BRAND-NEW LIFE FOR OUR OLD LIFE.
GINGER JOINS ME NOW WITH SOME OF YOUR QUESTIONS ON THIS TOPIC.
WELL, GINGER, IS THERE ANYBODY OUT THERE THAT WANTS TO EXCHANGE
THEIR ASHES FOR HIS BEAUTY?
GINGER: I DON'T KNOW ANYONE WHO WOULD NOT WANT THAT,
AND A LOT OF REALLY GOOD
QUESTIONS ABOUT THE PARTICULARS OF--'CAUSE IT SOUNDS SO GOOD,
YOU KNOW?
NOW HOW DOES IT WORK?
AND SO WE'LL JUST START OUT WITH KIND OF THE BASICS,
BUT THIS QUESTION FROM LISA: "PLEASE EXPLAIN THE MEANING
OF HIS BEAUTY FOR OUR ASHES."
'CAUSE WE SEE IT, BUT WHAT DOES IT REALLY MEAN?
JOYCE: WELL, ASHES COME FROM SOMETIMES BURNING A PILE
OF TRASH OR THE LOGS LEFT OVER IN YOUR FIREPLACE
WHEN THE FIRE'S GONE OUT.
AND A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE REALLY BROKEN LIVES.
THEY HAVE A LOT OF MESSED-UP THINGS IN THEIR PAST,
HURTS, PAINS.
THEY'VE BEEN ABANDONED, THEY'VE BEEN ABUSED,
AND THEY JUST DON'T REALLY-- THEY JUST FEEL LIKE THEIR LIFE
IS JUST A BIG PILE OF A MESS.
AND SO THE BIBLE SAYS THAT HE'LL GIVE US BEAUTY FOR ASHES.
SO WE COULD JUST SAY THAT ASHES ARE LIKE ANY KIND OF A MISERABLE
PAST; AND HIS BEAUTY, OF COURSE, IS THE LIFE THAT HE SENT CHRIST
TO DIE FOR US TO HAVE.
HE WANTS US TO HAVE A GOOD LIFE, ENJOY OUR LIFE, HAVE PEACE, BEAR
GOOD FRUIT, DO GREAT THINGS, HAVE A GOOD RELATIONSHIP
WITH OURSELF AS WELL AS WITH HIM AND WITH OTHER PEOPLE.
AND CHRIST DIED NOT SO WE COULD JUST BE MISERABLE HERE ON EARTH
AND THEN SOMEDAY GO TO HEAVEN.
HE DIED SO WE COULD ACTUALLY ENJOY THE JOURNEY.
AND THIS BEAUTY FOR ASHES THING, ALTHOUGH THERE IS--THERE'S A LOT
TO IT, IT'S ALSO VERY SIMPLE.
YOU CAN'T KEEP THE ASHES AND GET THE BEAUTY.
AND SO--AND I CALL THE ASHES LIKE--YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES WE
JUST LIKE TO SIT AROUND AND REMEMBER HOW BAD WE'VE BEEN
TREATED, AND IT SOUNDS KIND OF FUNNY TO SAY SOMEBODY WOULD
LIKE TO DO THAT, BUT WE HAVE A TENDENCY TO WANNA DO THAT,
TO FEEL SORRY FOR OURSELVES AND I'VE BEEN TREATED THIS WAY
AND I'VE BEEN TREATED THAT WAY.
I KNOW I WENT THROUGH THAT MYSELF.
IT'S LIKE, "WELL, EVERY PROBLEM I HAD WAS BECAUSE OF WHAT
HAD BEEN DONE TO ME."
AND SO, GOD PUT ON MY HEART THAT I HAD TO GIVE UP
THOSE ASHES IF I WANTED TO HAVE HIS BEAUTY.
WE HAVE TO STOP FEELING SORRY FOR OURSELVES AND STOP BLAMING.
I RECENTLY HEARD THIS STATEMENT; I THINK IT'S VERY GOOD.
IN ORDER TO BE HEALED OR TO BE WHOLE, YOU HAVE TO TAKE
100% RESPONSIBILITY FOR YOUR LIFE.
AND SO, EVEN THOUGH MANY THINGS THAT WE STRUGGLE WITH ARE
BECAUSE OF SOMETHING THAT HAPPENED TO US,
WE CAN'T LET IT BECOME AN EXCUSE TO REMAIN THAT WAY.
AND SO THAT'S--TO ME, THAT'S WHAT IT MEANS TO HAVE
HIS BEAUTY FOR OUR ASHES.
GINGER: AND THAT'S NOT ALWAYS AN EASY THING TO DO,
TO TAKE THAT 100% RESPONSIBILITY AND THAT'S WHERE A LOT
OF THESE QUESTIONS COME IN.
AND THAT'S A GREAT DESCRIPTION, AND THE BEAUTY THAT YOU'RE
TALKING ABOUT IS SO BROAD.
I MEAN, IT'S ALL THE GOOD THINGS THAT HE WANTS US TO HAVE.
SO HERE'S ANOTHER QUESTION FROM DENISE FROM OHIO:
"I WAS EMOTIONALLY BROKEN A FEW YEARS AGO.
I STARTED TO GO TO CHURCH AND WAS DOING MUCH BETTER.
BUT NOW I'M BACK TO BEING AN EMOTIONAL WRECK AGAIN.
I JUST FEEL EMPTY AND LIKE SOMETHING IS MISSING.
I WENT FROM ASHES TO BEAUTY, BUT NOW BACK TO ASHES AGAIN.
WHAT CAN I DO?" JOYCE: WELL, WHATEVER SHE DID
THE FIRST TIME THAT GOT HER STARTED ON A GOOD PATH,
I THINK SHE NEEDS TO GO BACK AND SEE WHAT SHE CHANGED
THAT GOT HER IN A BETTER POSITION AND THEN WHAT SHE
CHANGED TO GET HER INTO A NOT-SO-GOOD POSITION
AGAIN.
YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES JUST REFLECTING, JUST ASKING
GOD, "WHAT HAPPENED HERE?
WHERE DID I TAKE A MISSTEP?
WHERE DID I GET OFF THE RIGHT PATH?"
DID SHE STOP GOING TO CHURCH?
DID SHE GET INVOLVED WITH NEGATIVE PEOPLE
THAT WERE DRAGGING HER DOWN?
DID SHE STOP TAKING RESPONSIBILITY FOR HER THOUGHTS?
DID SHE LET HER THOUGHTS JUST GO HAYWIRE AND GO BACK TO POOR ME
AND THIS IS WHAT HAPPENED TO ME AND, YOU KNOW, AND BLAMING
OTHER PEOPLE?
SOMETIMES TOO, I FIND THAT GOD TAKES US TO CERTAIN PLACES,
AND THEN THERE'S SOMETHING ELSE HE REQUIRES OF US IN ORDER TO GO
TO THAT NEXT LEVEL.
SO, FOR EXAMPLE, I THINK I FORGAVE MY FATHER IN STAGES
FOR SEXUALLY ABUSING ME, IF THAT MAKES ANY SENSE.
I FEEL LIKE I FORGAVE HIM AS A DECISION, BUT I
DIDN'T START PRAYING FOR HIM TO BE BLESSED AND TO HAVE
A GOOD LIFE FOR SEVERAL MORE YEARS,
THEN GOD SHOWED ME I NEEDED TO DO THAT.
AND THEN THE FINAL STEP CAME WHEN HE WANTED MY HUSBAND
AND I TO TAKE MY MOM AND MY DAD, BRING 'EM CLOSE TO OUR HOME,
PUT 'EM IN A HOME, AND TAKE CARE OF THEM UNTIL THEY DIE.
GINGER: THAT GOD WANTED YOU TO DO THAT?
JOYCE: YEAH, AND SO THEN WHEN GOD WANTED ME TO DO
THAT, IT WAS, LIKE, "YOU'VE GOTTA BE KIDDING."
SO THAT WAS KIND OF LIKE THE FINAL STAGE IN FORGIVENESS
AND SO, MAYBE GOD HAS BROUGHT HER TO A POINT OF NEEDING
TO FORGIVE PEOPLE.
SHE HASN'T BEEN WILLING TO DO THAT.
OR MAYBE THERE'S SOMETHING IN HER OWN LIFE THAT GOD'S
ASKING HER TO WALK AWAY FROM NOW OR LAY DOWN AND SHE
WON'T DO THAT.
YOU KNOW, WHEN WE ASK GOD TO HEAL OUR LIVES, WE DON'T
JUST KINDA SIT BACK IN A CHAIR AND WAIT FOR HIM TO DO
EVERYTHING.
PART OF THAT INVOLVES LISTENING TO HIM AND TAKING EACH STEP
THAT HE GIVES YOU TO TAKE
AND DOING WHAT HE SHOWS YOU TO DO.
YOU KNOW, JOHN 8:31, 32 SAYS: "IF YOU CONTINUE IN MY WORD,
THEN ARE YOU MY DISCIPLES INDEED AND YOU WILL KNOW THE TRUTH
AND IT WILL MAKE YOU FREE."
BUT THE OBVIOUS POINT IS, IS YOU KNOW THE WORD,
YOU OBEY THE WORD, AND THEN IT MAKES YOU FREE.
IT'S NOT JUST I CAN HEAR A SERMON AND READ THE BIBLE
AND THINK THAT I'M SUPPOSED TO BE FREE SO I CLAIM
THAT FREEDOM, THERE'S NOTHING FOR ME TO DO.
IT'S A JOURNEY.
AND IT'S SOMETIMES A PAINFUL JOURNEY AND SOMETIMES
A LOT LONGER THAN WE WANT IT TO BE.
SO YOU CAN'T GIVE UP QUICK.
GINGER: WELL, AND WHERE DENISE IS, IS WHERE MANY PEOPLE
HAVE BEEN.
I MAKE THREE STEPS FORWARD AND TWO STEPS BACK, YOU KNOW?
IT IS CYCLICAL SOMETIMES AND WE HAVE TO KEEP PERSEVERING.
WE HAVE TO KEEP WALKING THROUGH IT.
AND I LOVE WHAT YOU SAID ABOUT GOD DOES WANT TO SHOW US
THE STEPS.
HE DOESN'T SAY, "HANDS OFF, GO FIGURE IT OUT YOURSELF."
WHEN WE ASK HIM, HE REVEALS A LOT TO US.
JOYCE: AND I THINK SOMETIMES TOO, GINGER, PEOPLE GET TIRED
OF DOING THE RIGHT THING.
IT'S LIKE, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOUR LIFE'S IN A REAL MESS
OR YOU'VE BEEN HURT REAL BAD, YOU CAN START DOING
THE RIGHT THING, BUT YOU MAYBE DON'T GET A RIGHT RESULT
RIGHT AWAY.
SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO STICK WITH DOING THE RIGHT THING.
IT'S KIND OF LIKE, YOU KNOW, IT'S EASY TO GAIN 20 POUNDS
AND YOU--SEEMS LIKE YOU GAINED IT SO FAST, YOU CAN'T IMAGINE
HOW YOU GAINED 20 POUNDS.
BUT THEN IT SEEMS LIKE IT TAKES A LOT LONGER TO LOSE IT THAN IT
DOES TO GAIN IT.
AND SO, YOU HAVE TO STICK WITH THE DIET AND YOU'VE GOT
TO STICK WITH THE EXERCISE AND YOU STICK WITH IT
AND YOU STICK WITH IT AND YOU GO THROUGH.
SOME DAYS ARE EASY, SOME DAYS ARE REALLY HARD.
AND SO, IT'S--IN ANYTHING LIKE THAT IN LIFE, YOU HAVE TO BE
WILLING TO GO THE DISTANCE.
GINGER: YEAH, WELL, AND THAT LEADS US RIGHT TO THIS QUESTION
FROM MARIA FROM CONNECTICUT.
"MY QUESTION IS: IT'S SO PAINFUL TO SURVIVE
THE ASHES TO SEE THE BEAUTY.
HOW DO I HOLD ON WHEN THE PAIN IS SO TANGIBLE AND THE BEAUTY
RELIES ON FAITH?"
JOYCE: I THINK SOMETIMES IF YOU CAN'T HOLD ON, YOU
JUST HAVE TO CRY OUT TO GOD TO HOLD ON TO YOU.
AND HE DOESN'T LEAVE US, NOR FORSAKE US.
HE WON'T ABANDON US.
AND WHEN I'M GOING THROUGH A DIFFICULT TIME,
I HAVE TO REMIND MYSELF OF THE SAME THING OVER AND OVER.
YOU KNOW, MOST PEOPLE TALK TO THEMSELVES,
BUT A LOT OF TIMES, THEY DON'T TALK TO THEMSELVES
IN THE RIGHT WAY.
AND I FIND THAT I JUST HAVE TO HAVE SOME GOOD CHATS
WITH MYSELF.
YOU KNOW, THE OTHER DAY I HAD TO TELL MYSELF, "NOW, JOYCE,
WHY DON'T YOU JUST BELIEVE WHAT YOU PREACH," YOU KNOW?
BECAUSE IT'S EASIER TO TELL SOMEBODY TO DO IT THAN IT IS
TO DO IT YOURSELF WHEN YOU'RE IN A REAL STRUGGLE
AND SOONER OR LATER, WE ALL HAVE TO COME TO THE PLACE
OF REALIZING THAT THERE'S ONLY SO MUCH THAT SOMEBODY ELSE
CAN DO FOR US.
SOMEBODY ELSE CAN TEACH YOU.
SOMEBODY ELSE CAN PRAY FOR YOU.
SOMEBODY ELSE CAN BE THERE TO ENCOURAGE YOU.
BUT SOONER OR LATER, IT'S GONNA COME DOWN TO YOU AND GOD,
AND YOU HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION IF YOU'RE GONNA TRUST HIM
AND BELIEVE HIM AND GO THE DISTANCE OR IF YOU'RE
GONNA QUIT AND GIVE UP.
IT IS CHALLENGING TO HOLD ON SOMETIMES, AND SO I DON'T THINK
THERE'S ANY PROBLEM WITH SAYING, "GOD, I'M WEAK.
I DON'T FEEL LIKE I CAN HOLD ON TO YOU BUT I'M TRUSTING YOU
TO HOLD ON TO ME."
GINGER: YEAH, WELL, I LIKE THIS.
THIS IS FROM CAROL FROM VIRGINIA: "I LOVE
THAT SCRIPTURE VERSE THAT SAYS: 'I WILL GIVE YOU BEAUTY
FOR ASHES.' TO ME, GOD DOESN'T SAY,
'I'LL GIVE IT ONCE,' BUT IT SEEMS LIKE
A CONTINUING FLOW OF BEAUTY FOR THE ASHES OF OUR LIVES.
AM I ON THE RIGHT TRACK?" JOYCE: YEAH, I THINK
THAT IT'S--OUR WALK WITH GOD IS PROGRESSIVE FROM THE MOMENT
THAT IT STARTS UNTIL HE TAKES US HOME TO BE WITH HIM.
I'M STILL LEARNING, I'M STILL GROWING, I'M STILL CHANGING.
I'M STILL FACING CHALLENGES IN MY LIFE.
SOMETIMES YOU THINK, "WELL, SURELY THE HARD PART'S OVER,"
AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU'LL COME UP AGAINST SOMETHING
THAT WHERE YOU HAVE TO APPLY EVERY SINGLE THING.
BUT THE ENEMY COMES AGAINST US ONE WAY, BUT THE BIBLE PROMISES
THAT HE HAS TO FLEE BEFORE US MANY WAYS.
SO, YES, SHE MAY HAVE MORE CHALLENGES, BUT SHE'S ALSO GONNA
HAVE MORE BEAUTY AT THE SAME TIME.
EVERY HARD PLACE WE GO THROUGH IF WE DON'T GIVE UP, IT OPENS UP
INTO A BRAND NEW LEVEL OF FREEDOM AND VICTORY FOR US.
SO WE'VE GOT A LOT TO LOOK
FORWARD TO, MAYBE A LOT TO GO THROUGH, BUT A LOT
TO LOOK FORWARD TO ALSO.
GINGER: LIKE YOU SAID, GOD IS THERE WITH US EVERY STEP
OF THE WAY.
JOYCE: YES, HE IS.
WELL, TODAY WE'RE OFFERING YOU THE "YOU CAN BEGIN AGAIN" BOOK
THAT I WROTE.
I LOVE THAT TITLE. "YOU CAN BEGIN AGAIN."
YOU KNOW, THERE'S SO MANY AREAS OF OUR LIVES WHERE WE NEED
NEW BEGINNINGS, WHETHER YOU NEED A NEW BEGINNING IN YOUR
DETERMINATION TO GET OUT OF DEBT OR YOU NEED A NEW BEGINNING
IN YOUR DETERMINATION TO EXERCISE OR YOU NEED
A NEW BEGINNING IN--WELL, YOU JUST FEEL LIKE EVERYTHING'S
A MESS.
YOU'VE FAILED AT EVERYTHING, YOU'VE MADE A MESS OUT
OF RELATIONSHIPS, YOU JUST FEEL LIKE EVERYTHING IS
JUST AT THE WORST PLACE IT CAN BE RIGHT NOW.
THE GOOD NEWS IS, IS YOU CAN BEGIN AGAIN.
IT'S ALWAYS GOOD TO KNOW THAT, WITH GOD, YOU CAN HAVE
A FRESH START ANY TIME YOU NEED ONE.
AND SO TODAY, WE'RE OFFERING YOU THIS BOOK,
"YOU CAN BEGIN AGAIN," FOR ANY AMOUNT.
AND WE DO THAT BECAUSE WE REALLY WANT YOU TO BE ABLE TO GET IT.
ALL WE ASK IS THAT YOU DO YOUR BEST.
DON'T SEND IN THE LEAST AMOUNT THAT YOU CAN BECAUSE WE SAID YOU
COULD GET IT THAT WAY, BUT DO YOUR VERY BEST, AND ANY TIME YOU
DO THE BEST THAT YOU CAN, GOD IS ALWAYS GONNA DO THE BEST
THAT HE CAN FOR YOU.
AND JUST REMEMBER, REGARDLESS OF YOUR PAST FAILURES
OR YOUR CURRENT STRUGGLES, GOD IS OFFERING YOU
A BRAND-NEW BEGINNING.
JOYCE: IF YOU'RE LIVING WITH PAIN OR DISAPPOINTMENT,
MAYBE YOU FEEL LIKE YOU'VE HIT A ROADBLOCK IN YOUR LIFE.
I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT IT'S NEVER TOO LATE
FOR YOUR FRESH START.
YOU CAN BEGIN AGAIN.
AND I WANNA SHOW YOU HOW.
ANNOUNCER: TODAY WE'RE OFFERING "YOU CAN BEGIN AGAIN"
FOR YOUR DONATION OF ANY AMOUNT.
CALL US RIGHT NOW TOLL-FREE...
OR VISIT US AT JOYCEMEYER.ORG.
ANNOUNCER: MAKE PLANS NOW TO SPEND YOUR FRIDAY
AND SATURDAY WITH JOYCE.
THREE UNIQUE SESSIONS
OF INSPIRING TEACHING, HEARTFELT WORSHIP,
AND ENCOURAGING BEHIND-THE-SCENES MOMENTS
AT THE JOYCE MEYER CONFERENCE COMING TO
ALBUQUERQUE, NEW MEXICO, APRIL 6 AND 7,
WITH WORSHIP BY PHIL WICKHAM; AND WASHINGTON, D.C.,
APRIL 20 AND 21, WITH WORSHIP BY ELEVATION WORSHIP.
FOR MORE INFORMATION, VISIT JOYCEMEYER.ORG/CONFERENCE
OR CALL...
ANNOUNCER: THE BIBLE, OUR INSTRUCTION BOOK FOR LIFE.
SPENDING TIME IN GOD'S WORD WILL CHANGE OUR LIVES, BUT CONSISTENT
AND EFFECTIVE STUDY CAN BE CHALLENGING.
THAT'S ONE REASON WHY JOYCE IS HERE TO HELP.
AT JOYCEMEYER.ORG/BIBLESTUDY, YOU'LL FIND WAYS TO MAKE
YOUR STUDY TIME COME TO LIFE WITH HELPFUL RESOURCES,
STUDY SUGGESTIONS, AND ENCOURAGEMENT FROM JOYCE.
GET THE MOST YOU CAN STUDYING GOD'S WORD WITH EVERYDAY STUDY.
SIGN UP TODAY AT JOYCEMEYER.ORG/BIBLESTUDY.
ANNOUNCER: PACK YOUR BAGS.
WE'RE TAKING THE LOVE LIFE WOMEN'S CONFERENCE
TO TAMPA, FLORIDA, AND YOU'RE INVITED.
♪ YOU'RE HERE WITH ME ♪ ♪ AND IT'S GONNA BE ♪
♪ A GOOD DAY ♪ ANNOUNCER: WORSHIP
WITH NATALIE GRANT.
♪ IT'S GONNA BE ♪ ♪ A GOOD DAY ♪
♪ YEAH ♪ ANNOUNCER:
AND ELEVATION WORSHIP.
♪ UNSTOPPABLE GOD ♪ ♪ LET YOUR GLORY ♪
♪ GO ON AND ON ♪
♪ IMPOSSIBLE THINGS ♪ ♪ IN YOUR NAME ♪
♪ THEY SHALL BE DONE ♪ ANNOUNCER: FEATURING
JOYCE MEYER AND HER GUESTS,
PRISCILLA SHIRER, LISA HARPER,
SARAH JAKES ROBERTS, AND DAVE MEYER.
EARLY-BIRD PRICING ENDS MAY 31,
SO REGISTER TODAY.
C'MON, YOU KNOW THIS IS GONNA BE AN AMAZING WEEKEND.
SPACE IS LIMITED.
THIS ONE WILL SELL OUT FAST.
REGISTER TODAY.
ANNOUNCER: WE HOPE YOU ENJOYED TODAY'S PROGRAM.
FOR MORE INFORMATION, VISIT JOYCEMEYER.ORG.
THIS PROGRAM HAS BEEN MADE POSSIBLE
BY THE FRIENDS AND PARTNERS OF JOYCE MEYER MINISTRIES.
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