>> ANNOUNCER: THIS PROGRAM HAS BEEN MADE POSSIBLE
BY THE FRIENDS AND PARTNERS OF JOYCE MEYER MINISTRIES.
>> [MUSIC]
>> JOYCE: WELCOME TO "ENJOYING EVERYDAY LIFE."
YOU KNOW, TODAY I WANT TO ENCOURAGE YOU WITH
MY MESSAGE ON SUFFERING.
NOW IT MAY SOUND LIKE HOW COULD I POSSIBLY
BE ENCOURAGED WITH A MESSAGE ON SUFFERING?
WELL, YOU KNOW, WE ALL FACE SUFFERING
AT SOME POINT, AND IT'S NOT EASY TO GO THROUGH,
BUT IF WE'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH IT
WE MIGHT AS WELL LEARN HOW TO DO IT RIGHT.
JUST LIKE BETTY JO.
WATCH HOW SHE LEARNED TO KEEP TRUSTING GOD DURING
SOME OF THE TOUGHEST MOMENTS IN HER LIFE.
TAKE A LOOK AT THIS.
>> FEMALE: SUFFERING ISN'T SOMETHING WE VOLUNTEER
TO EXPERIENCE.
MANY TIMES IT'S THRUST UPON US IN AN INSTANT.
YET THE PAIN CAN LINGER IN OUR MIND AND EMOTIONS
FOR WHAT FEELS LIKE A LIFETIME.
WHEN BETTY RAMEY'S SISTER DIED IN 2008,
SHE WAS FACING THE SAME GRIEF WE ARE ALL CHALLENGED WITH,
YET HER SUFFERING MULTIPLIED.
>> BETTY JO: AND THEN MY MOM PASSED AWAY IN 2009
AND THEN MY HUSBAND IN 2010
AND THEN MY BEST FRIEND/ SISTER-IN-LAW/SISTER
IN 2011.
THE EMPTINESS WAS OVERWHELMING, AND I GOT LOST IN IT.
AND I GOT WEAKENED IN IT.
IT WAS JUST OVERWHELMING.
>> FEMALE: EVERY TIME BETTY BEGAN TO HEAL FROM ONE LOSS,
ANOTHER KEY PERSON IN HER LIFE DIED,
AND THE PAIN GREW DEEPER.
>> BETTY JO: IT WAS LIKE BEING AN ORPHAN.
IT WAS LIKE BEING ABANDONED.
IT WAS LIKE FINDING OUT THE WORLD HAD COME TO AN END
AND YOU'RE THE ONLY SURVIVOR AND YOU WISHED THAT YOU HADN'T.
>> FEMALE: BETTY DISCOVERED WHEN YOU LOSE THE PEOPLE
THAT SUPPORTED YOU THROUGH PAST SUFFERING,
YOU NEED HELP TO KEEP YOU FOCUSED ON THE ONE
WHO CAN HEAL THE PAIN.
>> BETTY JO: YOU DON'T HAVE ANY MORE PHYSICAL TRUST,
YOU DON'T HAVE ANY MORE EMOTIONAL TRUST,
YOU DON'T HAVE ANY MORE THINKING TRUST.
REALITY HAS SHOWN YOU ITS UGLIEST.
THE MINISTRY WAS MY WAY OF ALWAYS KEEPING
GOD PRESENT.
I WOULD JUST JOURNAL WHAT THE MESSAGE WAS ABOUT TODAY
AND WHAT I'VE APPLIED THAT TO TODAY.
BECAUSE YOU COULD WATCH THE SAME SHOW TWO YEARS APART
AND GET A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT MESSAGE FROM GOD
FROM IT.
SO, TODAY THIS IS WHAT JOYCE TALKED ABOUT, AND TODAY
THIS IS WHERE I APPLIED IT.
>> FEMALE: BETTY SAYS HER RELATIONSHIP WITH GOD
DEEPENED WHEN SHE PUT INTO PRACTICE WHAT SHE LEARNED.
READING SCRIPTURES WERE NO LONGER ENOUGH.
SHE HAD TO DO WHAT THEY SAID.
>> BETTY JO: I WENT INTO A PLACE OF THANK YOU
SO THAT I WOULDN'T GO INTO A PLACE OF RESENTMENT.
IT FELT LIKE I HAD LOST EVERYTHING,
SO I HAD TO START COUNTING MY BLESSINGS.
EVEN WHEN I DIDN'T FEEL IT.
EVEN WHEN I DIDN'T BELIEVE IT.
WHEN YOU'VE LOST WHAT YOU FEEL AND WHAT IS YOUR TRUTH,
YOU'VE LOST EVERYTHING.
YOU HAVE TO DIG INTO A PLACE YOU'VE NEVER HAD
TO REACH BEFORE, AND IT'S A NEW LEVEL
OF TRUSTING.
>> FEMALE: BETTY SAYS IT WAS A LONG JOURNEY FROM GRIEF,
BUT AS SHE DARED TO TRUST GOD THROUGH THE PAIN,
SHE DISCOVERED THE PATH TO HEALING.
BEING LOST IN HER SUFFERING WASN'T HER ONLY OPTION ANYMORE.
SHE COULD LIVE AGAIN.
>> JOYCE: WELL, YOU ARE GONNA LOVE MY MESSAGE TODAY.
I JUST REALLY BELIEVE THAT YOU'RE GONNA LOVE IT.
HOW MANY OF YOU THINK YOU'RE ALREADY GONNA LOVE IT
AND YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT IT'S GONNA BE ON?
>> [AUDIENCE APPLAUDING]
>> JOYCE: WELL, I THINK I'LL TURN AROUND BACKWARDS
WHILE I TELL YOU WHAT IT IS.
>> [AUDIENCE LAUGHING]
>> JOYCE: TODAY I'M GONNA TEACH ON SUFFERING.
>> [AUDIENCE LAUGHING]
>> [AUDIENCE APPLAUDING]
>> JOYCE: NOW, YOU KNOW, I REALLY TRIED TO PUT
A CUTE TITLE ON THIS, AND I JUST COULDN'T COME UP
WITH ANYTHING.
>> [AUDIENCE LAUGHING]
>> JOYCE: SO I JUST THOUGHT I'D CALL IT WHAT IT IS.
YOU KNOW, WE ALL SUFFER, DON'T WE?
AND SO IF WE'RE GONNA DO IT, WE MIGHT AS WELL LEARN
HOW TO DO IT RIGHT.
>> [AUDIENCE LAUGHING]
>> JOYCE: WE MIGHT AS WELL LEARN HOW TO DO IT
AND GET SOME VALUE OUT OF IT WHILE WE'RE ON OUR WAY.
WE GO THROUGH THINGS.
IT'S INTERESTING.
I BEGAN TO REALIZE THAT BIBLE PREACHERS
AND TEACHERS--YOU KNOW, IT'S HARD TO EVEN USE THAT WORD
WHEN YOU'RE IN THE PULPIT,
TO BE HONEST, BECAUSE PEOPLE JUST DON'T LIKE IT.
THEY DON'T LIKE THE WORD, THEY DON'T LIKE THE THOUGHT
OF DOING IT.
IF THERE'S ANYTHING WE'D LOVE TO GET OUT OF IN LIFE
IT'S ANY KIND OF SUFFERING OR DISCOMFORT,
AND SO WE'VE COME UP WITH NEW PHRASES,
SEVERAL OF THEM AREN'T EVEN IN THE BIBLE, BUT IT'S WHEN
YOU'RE GOING THROUGH SOMETHING, NOW THE BIBLE TALKS ABOUT THAT.
WHEN YOU'RE STRUGGLING, WHEN YOU'RE HAVE DIFFICULTY,
WHEN YOU'RE EXPERIENCING OPPOSITION,
WHEN YOU HAVE A CHALLENGE.
AND I GOT TO THINKING ABOUT THAT, AND I THOUGHT
WHY DO WE HAVE SUCH A HARD TIME JUST SAYING
WHEN YOU'RE SUFFERING?
AND SO I DID A LITTLE WORD STUDY,
AND I FOUND OUT THEN THE KING JAMES TRANSLATION
THE WORD "SUFFERING" OR "SUFFER" IS IN THERE
165 TIMES.
THE AMPLIFIED BIBLE RAMPS IT UP A LITTLE.
IT'S IN THERE 175 TIMES.
I LOOKED AT ONE OF THE MOST MODERN,
MOST POPULAR, TRANSLATIONS AND IT'S ONLY IN THERE
59 TIMES, AND I THOUGHT, WELL, ISN'T IT INTERESTING?
I HOPE THAT WE DON'T MODERNIZE THE TRUTH OUT OF THE WORD
AND GET TO THE POINT WHERE PEOPLE DON'T REALLY KNOW
WHAT TO EXPECT AND AREN'T PREPARED FOR IT.
YOU SEE, I DON'T APOLOGIZE FOR TALKING ABOUT THIS TODAY,
ALTHOUGH I DID TRY TO GET OUT OF IT.
I DID.
ONE POINT I WAS STUDYING THIS AND I THOUGHT, "OH, GOD,
I DON'T WANNA GO THERE AND DO THAT.
I DON'T WANNA DO THAT."
AND SO I WENT BACK.
I'VE GOT THIS WHOLE TWO CABINETS FULL OF MESSAGES
THAT I'VE TAUGHT OVER THE YEARS, AND NOT THAT I JUST GO
AND PULL OUT A MESSAGE, BUT SOMETIMES IT'LL SPARK
AN IDEA IN ME.
SO I WENT BACK TO MY MESSAGES, AND I LOOKED AT EVERYTHING
AND I GOT THIS ONE OUT AND THAT ONE OUT.
AND I CAN ALWAYS TELL WHAT'S RIGHT BECAUSE IT CLICKS
OR IT DOESN'T.
AND IT WAS JUST LIKE, NO, THAT'S NOT RIGHT,
THAT'S NOT RIGHT.
AND I FINALLY JUST SAID TO GOD, "YOU'RE GONNA MAKE ME GO
DO THIS, AREN'T YOU?" >> [AUDIENCE LAUGHING]
>> JOYCE: AND SO I JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW IF YOU
DON'T LIKE THIS MESSAGE TODAY, YOU TALK TO GOD ABOUT IT,
'CAUSE HE'S THE ONE THAT'S MAKING ME DO IT.
>> [AUDIENCE LAUGHING]
>> JOYCE: SUFFERING MEANS TO LEAVE OR TO PERMIT,
TO BEAR WITH OR TO STAY UNDER.
YOU KNOW, THE FIRST THING WE WANNA DO WHEN WE'RE SUFFERING
IS WE WANNA RUN.
WE WANNA GET AWAY FROM IT SOME WAY, SHAPE, OR FORM.
BUT YOU KNOW WHAT?
YOU GOTTA GO THROUGH THE HARD PART TO GET
TO THE GOOD PART.
AND THAT'S REALLY THE MAIN THOUGHT THAT I
WANNA LEAVE YOU WITH TODAY.
YOU GOTTA GO THROUGH THE HARD PART TO GET
TO THE GOOD PART.
AND THAT DOESN'T MEAN THE HARD PART'S ALWAYS FAIR.
LIFE IS NOT ALWAYS FAIR, BUT GOD IS FAIR.
GOD IS A GOD OF JUSTICE, AND THAT'S ONE OF
MY FAVORITE THINGS ABOUT THE CHARACTER OF GOD.
AND JUSTICE MEANS THAT HE ALWAYS MAKES WRONG THINGS RIGHT.
GOD ALWAYS MAKES WRONG THINGS RIGHT IF--
EVERYBODY SAY IF-- WE TRUST HIM AND IF WE HANDLE
THE WRONG THING IN THE RIGHT WAY.
SEE, SO OFTEN WE DON'T RESPOND IN A GODLY WAY
WHEN WE'RE GOING THROUGH THINGS LIKE THAT, AND THEN WE JUST
HAVE TO KEEP GOING THROUGH IT OVER AND OVER AND OVER
AND OVER IN THE HOPES THAT EVENTUALLY WE WILL GET IT.
YOU KNOW, I SUFFERED SO MUCH IN MY SOUL IN THE EARLY YEARS
IN MY WALK WITH GOD AND IN THE EARLY YEARS
OF THIS MINISTRY.
AND I CAN ACTUALLY SAY THAT I SUFFERED MORE
WHEN I STARTED TRYING TO GROW UP IN GOD
THAN I DID BEFORE I CARED, IF YOU KNOW WHAT
I MEAN BY THAT.
IT'S LIKE I WAS HAPPY SINNING.
I MEAN, I REALLY WASN'T HAPPY DOING IT, BUT IT WAS LIKE,
IT'S NOT HARD ON YOUR FLESH TO SIN.
AND SO WHEN I REALLY GOT INTO A SERIOUS WALK WITH GOD,
AND BACK IN THE '70S I WAS FILLED WITH
THE HOLY SPIRIT, AND MAN, I STARTED READING THE WORD
AND, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU REALLY STUDY THE WORD,
YOU START SEEING WHAT A MESS YOU ARE.
YOU FINALLY HAVE TO STOP BLAMING IT ON SOMEBODY ELSE
AND TAKE A LOOK AT YOURSELF, BECAUSE THE WORD OF GOD
IS LIKE A MIRROR.
AND YOU SEE CHRIST IN THERE AND YOU SEE HOW FAR
YOU HAVE TO GO, SO IF WE'RE SMART
AND WE REALLY LOVE GOD AND WE WANNA DO THIS THING
RIGHT, WE'LL START PRAYING, "GOD, CHANGE ME."
OH, HONEY, THAT'S A DANGEROUS THING TO PRAY.
"OH, GOD, CHANGE ME."
AND THEN WE HAVE THESE, "OH, BREAK ME, GOD.
BREAK MY HEART WITH WHAT BREAKS YOUR HEART.
MAKE ME JUST LIKE YOU, JESUS."
OH, MAN, I FEEL THE PAIN ALREADY.
>> [AUDIENCE LAUGHING]
>> JOYCE: AND I JUST-- I MEAN, I JUST HAD THIS PAIN
IN MY SOUL ALL THE TIME, ESPECIALLY LIKE WHEN GOD
WOULD TELL ME, "YOU KNOW, THAT'S REALLY NOT DAVE'S FAULT.
IT'S YOUR FAULT."
WELL, I DIDN'T WANT IT TO BE MY FAULT.
I WANTED IT TO BE DAVE'S FAULT.
AND I WANTED GOD TO DEAL WITH DAVE.
I DIDN'T WANT HIM TO DEAL WITH ME ALL THE TIME.
I REMEMBER ONE TIME GOING TO DAVE AND SAYING,
"IS GOD DEALING WITH YOU ABOUT ANYTHING?"
BECAUSE I WAS GOING THROUGH SUCH A HARD TIME,
AND I JUST WANTED TO KNOW THAT GOD WAS IN DAVE'S FACE TOO.
>> [AUDIENCE LAUGHING]
>> JOYCE: "DAVE, IS GOD DEALING WITH YOU ABOUT ANYTHING?"
HE LOOKED AT ME, HE SAID, "WELL, I DON'T THINK SO."
>> [AUDIENCE LAUGHING]
>> JOYCE: HOW MANY OF YOU KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT?
SOMETIMES YOU JUST THINK, "GOD, CAN'T YOU PICK
ON ANYBODY BESIDES ME?
AM I THE ONLY ONE THAT'S GOT A PROBLEM?"
AND SO I WENT THROUGH SO MUCH ALL THE TIME.
AND YOU KNOW WHAT?
I DON'T REALLY GO THROUGH THAT MUCH ANYMORE.
NOW, THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT MY LIFE IS PERFECT
OR THAT I DON'T HAVE PROBLEMS.
IF ANY OF YOU WERE HERE FOR THE FIRST SERVICE,
YOU HEARD ME READ MY LIST OF 34 THINGS THAT HAPPENED
IN EIGHT WEEKS, NONE OF WHICH WERE FUN.
BUT HONESTLY, THEY DIDN'T BOTHER ME ALL THAT MUCH,
'CAUSE YOU SEE-- NOW I WANT YOU TO HEAR
WHAT I'M GONNA SAY.
A LOT OF OUR SUFFERING IS CONNECTED TO HOW WE RESPOND.
SOMEBODY OVER HERE THINKS THEY UNDERSTAND ME.
>> [AUDIENCE APPLAUDING]
>> JOYCE: SEE, I SAID THAT AND SOMEBODY WENT...
>> [AUDIENCE LAUGHING]
>> JOYCE: SEE, HONESTLY, HOW WE RESPOND--
WE CAN MAKE A BIGGER DEAL OUT OF THINGS THAN
WHAT THEY ARE.
I MEAN, IS IT REALLY THE END OF THE WORLD
IF I DON'T GET MY WAY ABOUT SOMETHING?
DO I REALLY HAVE TO GET MAD AT DAVE FOR THREE WEEKS
OVER THAT AND BE DEPRESSED AND FEEL SORRY FOR MYSELF?
BUT THAT'S WHAT I USED TO DO, AND I SUFFERED.
WHEN YOU GET A SWEET ATTITUDE, YOU PUT YOURSELF IN GOD'S HANDS,
AND YOU START TO REALLY TRUST HIM AND BELIEVE
THAT HE'S GOT A GOOD PLAN FOR YOU, A LOT OF THAT STUFF
GOES AWAY.
THE MORE SPIRITUALLY MATURE WE BECOME,
THE MORE WE GROW UP IN GOD, AND IT'S NOT EASY
GROWING UP IN GOD, BUT THE MORE WE GROW UP IN GOD,
THE MORE PEACEFUL OUR LIVES BECOME.
AND SO I AM JUST PLEADING WITH YOU TODAY.
THE APOSTLE PAUL SAID THINGS TO THE SAINTS, AND HE SAID,
"I BEG YOU FOR CHRIST'S SAKE."
AND SO I'M PLEADING WITH YOU TODAY,
WHATEVER GOD IS TRYING TO DO IN YOUR LIFE RIGHT NOW,
EVEN IF YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND IT, DON'T RUN AWAY FROM IT.
TRUST GOD.
LET HIM DO WHAT HE WANTS TO DO IN YOU, SO YOU CAN
HAVE THE LIFE THAT HE REALLY WANTS YOU TO HAVE, AMEN?
NOW, I GOT SOMETHING REALLY FUNNY TO READ YOU.
I BROUGHT ONE OF MY JOURNALS FROM 1989.
LORD HAVE MERCY.
>> [AUDIENCE LAUGHING]
>> JOYCE: NOW, I'M GONNA LET YOU INTO MY PERSONAL LIFE
FOR A FEW MINUTES.
WE'RE GONNA BE REALLY CLOSE AFTER THIS.
>> [AUDIENCE LAUGHING]
>> JOYCE: "DECEMBER 26, 1989.
WELL, CHRISTMAS IS OVER, GOD IS GOOD.
FROM A SPIRITUAL STANDPOINT I'VE BEEN HAVING A REALLY
ROUGH TIME.
A LOT OF THINGS GOING ON FOR A WHILE THAT I'VE
JUST BEEN SAYING, 'OH WELL, I'M GONNA CAST
MY CARE AND IT'S-- EVERYTHING'S GONNA BE OKAY.'
BUT TODAY EVERYTHING JUST BLEW UP IN MY FACE.
DAVE AND I HAD A DISCUSSION THAT WASN'T GOOD."
THAT MEANS WE HAD A FIGHT.
>> [AUDIENCE LAUGHING]
>> JOYCE: "HE FEELS I HAVE TO HAVE CONTROL
OR I'M NOT SATISFIED.
I FEEL HE'S WRONG AND BEING VERY UNFAIR.
WE HAVE A VERY HARD TIME COMMUNICATING WHEN WE
DIFFER IN OUR OPINIONS.
BUT THIS WAS THE LAST STRAW, SO TO SPEAK.
AND EVERYTHING I'VE BEEN FEELING BUT CASTING MY CARE ABOUT
CAME TUMBLING IN ON ME, SO HERE IT IS.
I'VE BEEN HAVING A HARD TIME GETTING MY MESSAGES,
AT LEAST MUCH HARDER THAN USUAL.
I'VE BEEN HAVING A HARD TIME HEARING FROM GOD.
I'VE BEEN FEELING VERY LITTLE ANOINTING.
IT SEEMS THAT THE MORE I'VE PRESSED INTO THE SPIRIT,
THE MORE GOD HIDES HIMSELF AND REQUIRES ME TO GO
STRICTLY ON FAITH ALONE."
IS ANYBODY RELATING TO ANYTHING I'M SAYING?
>> [AUDIENCE APPLAUDING]
>> JOYCE: OKAY, "I JUST HAD A SURGERY,
AND NOW I'VE GOT ONE MORE TO GO.
OUR ATTENDANCE IN OUR MEETINGS HAS FALLEN OFF
BECAUSE WE'RE IN THE HOLIDAY SEASON.
I'VE HAD A LOT OF WEIRD FEELINGS.
MY MIND IS LAZY.
I FEEL BORED, AND I'M DISCONTENTED.
ALL OF THIS HAS SORT OF COME AT ONCE.
I ALSO FEEL THAT I JUST DON'T KNOW HOW TO PRAY.
I'VE REALLY HAD A HARD TIME PRAYING.
TODAY IT ALL SEEMS TO BE TOO MUCH.
GOD, HELP ME.
I FEEL LIKE I'M GONNA GO UNDER,
BUT I KNOW I PROBABLY WON'T.
WELL, I TRUST THAT YOU'RE DOING SOMETHING--"
UNDERLINED SOMETHING-- "BUT I SURE DON'T KNOW
WHAT IT IS."
>> [AUDIENCE LAUGHING]
>> JOYCE: OH, YOU JUST WAIT.
>> [AUDIENCE LAUGHING]
>> JOYCE: "PROBABLY WANTING A GREATER DEGREE OF ABANDON
FROM ME, I GUESS.
I'M NOT SURE THAT I CAN DO IT, BUT I'M WILLING TO LET YOU DO IT
IF YOU WANT TO.
DAVE ALWAYS FEELS I'M AT FAULT, AND IT'S NEVER HIM.
TO BE HONEST, THIS IS REALLY HARD--"
UNDERLINE REALLY HARD-- "ON MY FLESH.
BUT I DON'T SUPPOSE IT MATTERS MUCH.
IT'S ALL PRIDE ANYWAY."
>> [AUDIENCE LAUGHING]
>> JOYCE: NOW HERE COMES THE REALLY SAD PART.
"I'M REALLY SORRY TO HAVE TO REPORT--"
>> [AUDIENCE LAUGHING]
>> JOYCE: "THAT I'VE HAD TO TELL THE LORD TONIGHT
THAT I HAVE GONE AS FAR AS I CAN GO."
>> [AUDIENCE LAUGHING]
>> JOYCE: "I QUIT.
THAT'S IT, DONE, FINISHED.
TWO YEARS AGO I SAID, 'GOD, TAKE ME AS DEEP
AS YOU WANT TO.
I'M WILLING TO DO WHATEVER YOU NEED ME TO DO,
BUT I REALLY DO NOT WANNA GO ON LIKE THIS."
FOR THE SECOND TIME I SAID, "I'M TELLING YOU THAT I
HAVE GONE AS FAR AS I CAN GO."
>> [AUDIENCE LAUGHING]
>> JOYCE: "I DON'T KNOW FOR SURE IF I CAN GET OUT OF THIS.
GOD MAY NOT LET ME OUT, BUT I NEVER REALLY THOUGHT
I WOULD BACK DOWN, SO ON TOP OF EVERYTHING ELSE
NOW, IT SEEMS THAT I AM A SPIRITUAL COWARD."
>> [AUDIENCE LAUGHING]
>> JOYCE: I WAS IN A MESS TO SAY THE LEAST.
DECEMBER 26, 1989.
WELL, APPARENTLY, NINE YEARS LATER
ON DECEMBER 20, 1998, I CAME ACROSS THIS,
SO NINE YEARS LATER I WROTE: "I WAS READING THIS OLD NOTEBOOK
AND THOUGHT I WOULD GIVE YOU GUYS AN UPDATE."
>> [AUDIENCE LAUGHING]
>> JOYCE: "THINGS HAVE CHANGED DRASTICALLY.
I'M NOW ON 375 TELEVISION STATIONS, 250 RADIO STATIONS."
>> [AUDIENCE APPLAUDING]
>> JOYCE: COME ON.
>> [AUDIENCE CHEERING]
>> JOYCE: COME ON, YOU GOTTA MAKE IT THROUGH
THE HARD PART TO GET TO THE GOOD PART.
>> [AUDIENCE CHEERING]
>> JOYCE: "OUR MINISTRY IS VERY SUCCESSFUL.
I'VE CHANGED DRASTICALLY.
I ENJOY PEACE ALMOST CONTINUALLY.
I'VE CONTINUED ALL THESE YEARS TO HAVE SOME HEALTH STRUGGLES
BUT IN THE MIDST OF IT ALL, GOD HAS GIVEN ME GRACE
TO DO ALL HE'S CALLED ME TO DO.
IT HAS BEEN HARD AT TIMES, BUT I CAN SAY FROM EXPERIENCE
THAT GOD IS FAITHFUL.
I HAVE FOUR GRANDCHILDREN," WHICH ARE NOW 11, AND I'M--
AND ONE MORE ON THE WAY.
MY YOUNGEST SON HAD JUST GOTTEN MARRIED.
"DAVE AND I LOVE EACH OTHER VERY MUCH.
WE GET ALONG REALLY GOOD ALMOST ALL THE TIME."
THAT'S WHAT--THAT'S WHAT NINE YEARS WILL DO FOR YOU.
>> [AUDIENCE CHEERING]
>> JOYCE: SO I HOPE THAT ME SHARING THAT PERSONAL SIDE
OF MY LIFE WILL HELP YOU TO REALIZE THAT WE ALL FEEL
LIKE GIVING UP SOMETIMES.
WE ALL GO THROUGH TIMES WHERE WE FEEL LIKE GOD
IS ONE MILLION MILES AWAY, WHEN WE DON'T HAVE
ANY IDEA WHAT HE'S DOING, WHEN WE'RE TIRED,
WHEN WE'RE WEARY, WHEN WE THINK WE JUST
CAN'T GO ON.
BUT NO MATTER HOW MANY TIMES YOU THREATEN TO GIVE UP,
I CAN ALREADY TELL YOU THAT GOD'S NOT GONNA
PUT UP WITH THAT.
HE'LL KEEP COMING AFTER YOU AND KEEP COMING AFTER YOU
AND KEEP COMING AFTER YOU AND KEEP COMING AFTER YOU
AND KEEP COMING AFTER YOU.
>> [AUDIENCE APPLAUDING]
>> JOYCE: AND HE'S GONNA WORK WITH YOU AND HELP YOU BE
ALL THAT HE WANTS YOU TO BE, NO MATTER WHAT.
SO WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT SUFFERING TODAY
BECAUSE I WANT YOU TO MAKE IT ALL THE WAY THROUGH
TO THE END.
YOU SEE, THE BEGINNING IS EXCITING,
THE END IS EXCITING FOR THE FEW WHO EVER GET THERE,
BUT IT'S THE MIDDLE THAT'S HARD.
SO WE HAVE TO TAKE THE TIME TO TALK ABOUT THE MIDDLE
AND ALL THE THINGS THAT YOU GO THROUGH
THAT YOU DON'T TALK TO ANYBODY ABOUT
OR YOU FEEL YOU CAN'T TALK TO ANYBODY ABOUT,
BECAUSE IF YOU DID TALK TO ANYBODY ABOUT IT
THEY PROBABLY WOULD JUDGE YOU, AND SO WE KEEP OUR SECRETS
AND WE HIDE IN THESE DARK PLACES AND WE WONDER
IF WE'RE GONNA SURVIVE.
BUT GOD IS ALWAYS THERE WITH US.
HE SEES EVERYTHING, HE KNOWS EVERYTHING.
AND GOD HAS GOT AN AMAZINGLY, UNBELIEVABLY GOOD PLAN
FOR YOUR LIFE, AND SO I JUST ENCOURAGE YOU
TO MAKE IT THROUGH THE HARD PART SO YOU CAN GET TO THE GOOD PART,
AMEN?
>> [AUDIENCE APPLAUDING]
>> JOYCE: NOW, THE NUMBER ONE REASON WHY PEOPLE WHO SAY
THEY DON'T BELIEVE IN GOD DON'T BELIEVE IN GOD
IS BECAUSE THEY CAN'T UNDERSTAND WHY THERE IS SO MUCH SUFFERING
AND EVIL IN THE WORLD.
THEY SAY, "IF GOD IS A GOOD GOD, THEN WHY DO ALL THESE
BAD THINGS HAPPEN?" WELL, LET ME JUST THROW OUT
FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION TODAY THAT DEMANDING TO KNOW WHY
EVERYTHING HAPPENS IS PROBABLY ABOUT THE WORST THING
IN THE WORLD THAT ANY OF US CAN DO.
GOD'S NOT GONNA GIVE YOU ALL THE ANSWERS.
HE'S NOT GONNA GIVE ME ALL THE ANSWERS.
THERE'S GONNA BE THINGS THAT HAPPEN THAT SEEM
SO UNFAIR THAT YOU JUST FEEL LIKE YOU CAN'T STAND IT.
I CAN'T EXPLAIN 'EM ALL TO YOU.
NOBODY ELSE CAN EXPLAIN 'EM ALL TO YOU.
WE CAN'T SAY, "WELL, YOU DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH FAITH,
OR YOU'RE THIS OR YOU'RE THAT OR YOU'RE SOMETHING ELSE,"
BECAUSE SOMETIMES IT SEEMS TO BE PRETTY RANDOM CONCERNING
WHAT HAPPENS TO WHO.
WE RECENTLY HAD A REAL TRAGIC FLOOD RIGHT IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD.
I WAS OUT OF TOWN.
I MEAN, IT WASN'T GONNA AFFECT OUR HOUSE,
'CAUSE WE DON'T LIVE IN A LOW AREA,
BUT WE KNOW PEOPLE THAT LOST EVERYTHING.
AND ONE OF THEM IS A BEAUTIFUL YOUNG GIRL
THAT WORKS FOR US.
SHE HEADS UP OUR MEDICAL MISSIONS
AND JUST HAS A GREAT HEART.
HASN'T BEEN MARRIED ALL THAT LONG.
HAS GOT A CHILD, OR DOES SHE HAVE TWO?
SHE HAS TWO BY NOW, AND SO THEY LOST EVERYTHING.
EVERYTHING, ALL THE FURNITURE, ALL THE HOUSE, EVERYTHING.
AND YOU COULD PROBABLY WALK RIGHT DOWN THE STREET
AND THERE'D BE SOME EVIL, WICKED, MISERABLE PERSON
WHO DIDN'T LOSE ANYTHING.
WELL, YOU'RE NOT GONNA FIGURE THAT OUT.
I MEAN, SAYING WHY IS JUST PRETTY MUCH USELESS,
AND I DON'T THINK GOD WANTS TO HEAR SO MANY WHYS;
I THINK HE WANTS TO HEAR, "I TRUST YOU.
I DON'T UNDERSTAND THIS.
THIS HURTS.
I FEEL LIKE IT'S GONNA KILL ME, BUT I TRUST YOU.
AND I BELIEVE, GOD, THAT NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENS,
YOU CAN AND WILL WORK IT OUT FOR GOOD IF I WILL KEEP
MY EYES ON YOU."
>> [AUDIENCE APPLAUDING]
>> JOYCE: CAN I TELL YOU THAT THERE ARE A LOT
OF MYSTERIES HIDDEN IN GOD.
THE BIBLE TALKS ABOUT THE MYSTERIES OF GOD
AND THE MYSTERIES OF CHRIST, LIKE, NUMEROUS TIMES.
THERE'S, LIKE, NINE, TEN SCRIPTURES THAT YOU CAN
PULL OUT ABOUT THE MYSTERIES OF GOD.
AND IN 1 CORINTHIANS IT SAYS: "WE KNOW IN PART,
WE PROPHESY IN PART, BUT THE DAY WILL COME
WHEN WE WILL KNOW EVEN AS WE ARE KNOWN."
SOME OF THE THINGS WE THINK WE WANNA KNOW,
IF WE KNEW, WE WOULDN'T EVEN
LIKE WHAT WE FOUND OUT.
SO WE NEED TO TRUST GOD THAT IF HE WANTS US
TO KNOW SOMETHING, WE'LL KNOW, AND IF NOT, IT'S NOT OUR JOB
TO FIGURE IT OUT.
IT'S OUR JOB TO TRUST HIM.
I'LL TELL YOU WHAT, I FEEL SO SORRY FOR PEOPLE,
I MEAN, GENUINELY SORRY FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE SO MENTAL
THAT THEY JUST CAN'T STAND TO NOT HAVE ALL THE ANSWERS
TO EVERYTHING.
IT IS ABSOLUTE TORMENT TO HAVE TO SPEND YOUR LIFE
TRYING TO FIGURE EVERYTHING OUT, AND I KNOW BECAUSE I WAS
THE QUEEN OF "WHY, GOD, WHY?"
AND I'LL TELL YOU WHAT YOU GET FROM THAT.
CONFUSION.
NOTHING BUT CONFUSION.
THE BIBLE SAYS: "TRUST IN THE LORD WITH
ALL YOUR HEART AND MIND.
LEAN NOT TO YOUR OWN UNDERSTANDING.
IN ALL YOUR WAYS JUST ACKNOWLEDGE HIM,
AND HE WILL DIRECT YOUR PATH."
>> [AUDIENCE APPLAUDING]
>> JOYCE: I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY MY DAD SEXUALLY ABUSED ME
FOR 15 YEARS.
I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY MY MOTHER DIDN'T DO
SOMETHING ABOUT IT.
WHY SHE ABANDONED ME TO THE SITUATION
AND WAS SO COWARDLY SHE WOULDN'T CONFRONT MY DAD.
I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY GOD DIDN'T GET ME OUT OF IT
BECAUSE I WAS BORN AGAIN AS A NINE-YEAR-OLD CHILD
AND I PRAYED THAT GOD WOULD GET ME OUT OF THERE.
I MEAN, I PRAYED THINGS I PROBABLY SHOULDN'T
HAVE PRAYED.
I PRAYED THAT MY DAD WOULD DIE, I PRAYED THAT MY MOTHER
WOULD DIVORCE HIM.
I PRAYED A LOT OF THINGS.
I JUST WANTED TO GET OUT OF THE SUFFERING.
BUT IT DIDN'T HAPPEN THE WAY THAT I WANTED IT
TO HAPPEN.
GOD DIDN'T GET ME OUT OF IT.
BUT HE GAVE ME THE GRACE TO GO THROUGH IT.
AND I'LL TELL YOU SOMETHING.
>> [AUDIENCE APPLAUDING]
>> JOYCE: I'M LIKE A BULLDOG.
I MEAN, I AM STRONG, AMEN?
AND SO WHEN YOU'RE GOING THROUGH HARD THINGS,
YOU GOT TWO CHOICES.
YOU CAN GIVE IN AND GIVE UP, OR YOU CAN GET STRONG.
I LOVE WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS, AND I THINK IT'S IN--
SEE IF I CAN FIND THIS REAL QUICK.
I THINK IT'S PSALM 105, 125, WE'LL SEE HERE.
SEE HOW MY MEMORY IS.
YEAH, 105:18.
FOR IT STARTS WITH 17.
HE'S TALKING ABOUT JOSEPH AND THE THINGS THAT HE
WENT THROUGH AND HOW UNFAIR THEY WERE.
"HE SENT A MAN BEFORE THEM, EVEN JOSEPH, WHO WAS
SOLD AS A SERVANT," AND A SLAVE.
"HIS FEET THEY HURT WITH FETTERS;
HE WAS LAID IN CHAINS OF IRON AND HIS SOUL ENTERED
INTO THE IRON."
NOW SOME OF YOU ARE JUST LIKE, "WELL, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN?"
WELL, I'LL TELL YOU WHAT.
WHEN HE HAD THOSE CHAINS ON HIS FEET AND HIS ARMS,
AND HE WAS SUFFERING ALL THIS STUFF THAT WAS
SO UNFAIR AND SO NOT RIGHT, AND HE WAS JUST A YOUNG GUY
WITH A DREAM.
I MEAN, HE LOVED GOD, AND HE HAD A DREAM.
THE NEXT THING HE KNEW HE WAS IN PRISON
FOR SOMETHING HE DIDN'T DO.
HE WAS IN CHAINS.
BUT IT SAID--AND YOU KNOW, BY THE WAY,
THERE'S NO EVIDENCE IN THE BIBLE THAT JOSEPH EVER HAD
A BAD ATTITUDE.
THERE'S NO EVIDENCE THAT HE EVER DID ANYTHING
EXCEPT TRUST GOD, AND THE INTERESTING THING WAS,
WAS THAT EVERY PLACE THE GUY WENT
GOD GAVE HIM FAVOR, AND HE ENDED UP IN CHARGE.
I MEAN, HE EVEN ENDED UP IN CHARGE OF THE PRISON.
THAT'S NOT A BAD DEAL, YOU KNOW THAT?
BUT WHEN IT SAYS, "AND HIS SOUL ENTERED
INTO THE IRON," WHAT I THINK ABOUT IS THAT THAT IRON,
THAT SUFFERING HE WAS GOING THROUGH
GOT MIXED IN WITH HIS SOUL, AND IT MADE HIM SO STRONG
INSIDE THAT HE COULD DO EVERYTHING THAT GOD
WANTED HIM TO DO AND ENDED UP BEING
A GREAT BLESSING TO MANY, MANY, MANY,
MULTIPLIED MILLIONS OF PEOPLE.
SO I CAN JUST TELL YOU, I GOT A LITTLE IRON
IN MY SOUL, AMEN?
>> [AUDIENCE APPLAUDING]
>> JOYCE: AND I BELIEVE THAT WE CAN DO ANYTHING
THAT GOD GIVES US TO DO, BUT THE ONE THING WE CANNOT DO
IS GIVE UP WHEN IT GETS HARD.
>> [MUSIC]
>> JOYCE: WELL, NOW, I WANT YOU TO REMEMBER
THAT WE CAN DO ANYTHING THAT GOD GIVES US TO DO,
BUT THE ONE THING WE CANNOT DO IS GIVE UP WHEN IT GETS HARD.
LET'S LEARN TO SAY, "GOD, I TRUST YOU,
AND I KNOW IT'S ALL GOING TO WORK OUT ALL RIGHT."
TODAY WE'RE OFFERING YOU "WAKE UP TO THE WORD."
IT'S OUR NEW DEVOTIONAL FOR THIS YEAR.
WE PUT A DEVOTIONAL OUT EVERY YEAR, AND THERE'S
365 LITTLE MINI TEACHINGS IN HERE THAT ARE REALLY
GONNA HELP YOU.
PUT THE WORD OF GOD FIRST PLACE IN YOUR LIFE EVERY DAY,
AND YOU'LL FIND THAT YOUR LIFE IS GONNA GO MUCH BETTER.
AND TODAY WE'RE OFFERING YOU THIS FOR ANY--
YOUR GIFT TO THE MINISTRY OF ANY AMOUNT.
WE LIKE TO DO THAT FROM TIME TO TIME
BECAUSE WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY CAN GET THIS,
AND I KNOW THAT YOU'RE GONNA DO YOUR BEST.
YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING YOU TO DO.
DO YOUR BEST.
SEND IN YOUR BEST OFFERING, AND WE'LL SEND YOU THIS
AS A BLESSING TO YOU.
YOU KNOW, WHEN WE START OUR DAY OFF WITH GOD,
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A BETTER DAY.
SO START WITH THE WORD.
>> ANNOUNCER: SOME MORNINGS EVERYTHING JUST GOES RIGHT.
OTHERS NOT SO MUCH.
BUT LET'S FACE IT, HOW YOU WAKE UP EACH MORNING HAS
A TREMENDOUS IMPACT ON YOUR DAY.
THAT'S WHY JOYCE WANTS YOU TO WAKE UP TO THE WORD.
TODAY WE'RE OFFERING JOYCE'S DEVOTIONAL,
"WAKE UP TO THE WORD," FOR YOUR DONATION
OF ANY AMOUNT.
CALL RIGHT NOW...
OR VISIT JOYCEMEYER.ORG.
>> ANNOUNCER: SO THE BIBLE IS GOD'S MANUAL TO HELP US
NAVIGATE LIFE.
BUT LIFE OFTEN GETS IN THE WAY OF KNOWING THE BIBLE,
FINDING THE TIME, KNOWING WHERE TO BEGIN,
AND DISCOVERING WHAT THIS ALL MEANS TO YOU.
WE UNDERSTAND.
AND WE'D LIKE TO HELP.
AT JOYCEMEYER.ORG/STUDY, YOU'LL FIND FREE RESOURCES
TO HELP YOU GET MORE OUT OF THE BIBLE,
WHETHER YOU'RE A NEW CHRISTIAN OR HAVE BEEN WALKING WITH CHRIST
FOR YEARS.
SO JUMP IN TODAY.
THE WORD.
IT'S FREE, IT'S MOBILE, AND IT'S TAILORED FOR YOU
AT JOYCEMEYER.ORG.
>> JOYCE: IF I WERE TO ASK YOU IF YOU LOVE YOUR LIFE,
WHAT WOULD YOUR ANSWER BE?
I BELIEVE THAT JESUS WANTS US TO LOVE OUR LIVES.
BUT IF YOU DON'T LIKE WHAT YOU'VE GOT,
CONTINUING TO DO THE SAME THING IS NOT GONNA GIVE YOU
A DIFFERENT OUTCOME.
AND I WANNA ENCOURAGE YOU TODAY TO GET MY NEW BOOK CALLED,
"LIVING A LIFE THAT YOU LOVE," AND SEE WHAT THE CHANGES ARE
THAT YOU CAN MAKE THAT WILL START TO GIVE YOU
WONDERFUL RESULTS IN YOUR LIFE.
WHY NOT GET YOUR COPY TODAY?
>> GINGER: YOU KNOW, I'VE JUST BEEN WONDERING LATELY,
WHAT IS IT THAT MAKES A PERSON WANT TO LEAVE THE COMFORT
AND MONOTONY OF HOME
TO COME SOMEPLACE CRAZY LIKE THIS AND DO
A MEDICAL CLINIC?
WELL, LET'S ASK THE VOLUNTEER DOCTORS AND NURSES
WHO DO IT ALL THE TIME.
>> MALE: SEEING THE WORLD IS AWESOME.
IT'S ALWAYS A GREAT ADVENTURE.
>> FEMALE: BECAUSE THE KIDS ARE SO AMAZING.
>> FEMALE: I DO THIS BECAUSE GOD PUT IT IN MY HEART
TO HELP OTHERS.
>> FEMALE: BECAUSE IT'S LIFE-CHANGING.
>> MALE: WE LOVE IT. IT'S AWESOME.
>> FEMALE: 'CAUSE IT'S REALLY FUN.
>> GINGER: SO, WHAT DO YOU THINK?
IT CAN'T HURT TO AT LEAST CHECK IT OUT, RIGHT?
ALL YOU NEED TO DO IS GO TO OUR WEBSITE,
JOYCEMEYER.ORG.
ALL THE INFORMATION IS THERE FOR YOU, AND JUST THINK,
YOUR ADVENTURE MAY BEGIN TODAY.
>> ANNOUNCER: WE HOPE YOU ENJOYED TODAY'S PROGRAM.
FOR MORE INFORMATION, VISIT JOYCEMEYER.ORG.
>> ANNOUNCER: THIS PROGRAM HAS BEEN MADE POSSIBLE
BY THE FRIENDS AND PARTNERS OF JOYCE MEYER MINISTRIES.
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