(Singing) I know my God has made the way for
me. I know my God has made the way for me.
ANNOUNCER: Live, talk, and act in faith, not fear.
Join Gloria and Kellie Copeland today and
discover how to keep faith at the forefront
of your thoughts and actions. Now to begin
today's Believer's Voice of Victory, here's Gloria.
GLORIA: Hello, everybody. Welcome to the Believer's
Voice of Victory. Kellie is with us again today.
She's got some good word for us. She's feeding our spirits.
Hallelujah. Go, Kellie, go. KELLIE: Go, go, go. If you're
just joining us, we've been talking last week and this week
about living free, free, free, free. We heard this week
completely free from fear. And we left off yesterday in
Hebrews. Boy, it was hard to get through that Hebrews 2. It was
so good. I saw so much in there I really hadn't even thought of
before, Mom. GLORIA: I know it. KELLIE: But in Verse 19, it
talks about a haunting fear, which--and that fear remains in
your consciousness. And then we looked at first--did we--well,
we looked at I Timothy and saw where the--your consciousness
is--that your faith is shipwrecked, that people
violated their consciousness and their-- GLORIA: Their
conscience. KELLIE: --their conscience. And, in that, their
faith is shipwrecked. So they think they're on a route on the
ship on the other--going to the other side with their faith. But
that fear, that remains in the consciousness. That's what
haunting means, remaining in the conscienceness--consciousness,
disturbing, distressing, anxiety. GLORIA: You know, it
seems like I would see that as they were on the right track.
They were going well and then they fell back. And then the
fear came because now they're not doing what God's told them
to do. KELLIE: They're looking at failure. GLORIA: Yeah.
KELLIE: Yeah. GLORIA: And that haunted them. But there was an
answer to that. Hallelujah. KELLIE: Yeah. There was, and His
name is Jesus. GLORIA: Yes. KELLIE: He was in the boat with
them. But really, Mom, if you think about that-- GLORIA:
"Repent" means to turn around. KELLIE: They weren't-- GLORIA:
If you get in trouble, turn around. KELLIE: They weren't
even looking to Him for help. They just said--woke Him up to
tell Him they were going to die, I guess. (Laughs) GLORIA: There
wasn't a lot of faith in that boat except Jesus, and He was
asleep. KELLIE: No. And we talked this week about putting
Him as your hope. If He's your hope, that's not how you go to
Him. So, really, it's very key to put Jesus as your hope. Like,
"Okay, me and You, Jesus, we're getting through this. Now, you
tell me how." Had they gone to Him in the boat and said, "All
right, Jesus, there's a storm. We can't handle it. Tell us how
to get to the other side," that's totally faith. And that's
what we should be doing. And things happen. You look at Him.
Don't just cry and bawl about, "Why have you let this happen to
me?" That's like they did. They were like, "Don't you care we're
going to die?" They had no interest in His solutions,
really. They were just afraid and worried. And that's what
fear will do to you. That whole scripture in Timothy that talks
about your consciousness and your faith being shipwrecked,
you've put that directly onto that story about them going to
the other side because that's what happened to them. Their
faith was shipwrecked. They didn't even have faith in Jesus.
GLORIA: Fear shuts the door to faith and shuts the--and
fear--faith shuts the door to fear. KELLIE: Right. And when
you shut the door to faith, you're going to lose. And you
open the door to fear, you're going to lose because that's
Satan's plan. We really covered that. So I encourage you to go
back to--on kcm.org. Download the study notes. Really make a
study of this to get rid of the fear in your life once-- GLORIA:
Oh, yeah. KELLIE: --and in your family's life once and for all
because God wants you to win. And He's put everything we
need--He's done it all--that we could be completely free and not
in bondage anymore. So we're going to pick up in--I mentioned
Luke 21, but we didn't get to it. But to--if you're--we're
still talking about being in faith when trouble comes.
Really, if you can be in faith when sudden trouble comes, you
can rest in faith the rest of the time, resisting fear as a
practice-- GLORIA: Now, you don't wait till you-- KELLIE:
--resisting fear all the time. GLORIA: --you don't wait till
the storm comes to get your Bible and learn how to walk by
faith. KELLIE: No. GLORIA: You live in the Word of God. You
live in faith. You talk in faith. You act in faith.
Everything you do is based on faith, no unbelief. That's the
way we live without the curse. KELLIE: Yeah. And the--sadly,
that's what people try to do, is they--that when something--they
wait until something comes along, they physically or
mentally or financially, "I can't do anything about this. I
guess I need to go to God." That's like trying to--and He's
gracious and He'll send you all the help He can, but your
faith--your winning is connected to your faith. Your losing is
connected to your fear. So God can't do that part of it for
you. GLORIA: That's right. KELLIE: He'll do everything He
can for you, but building a house in a storm is very hard.
And trying to switch-- GLORIA: But possible. KELLIE: --from
being reliant on yourself and what you do or worrying about
stuff to being a faith person and, "I'm going to win," that's
a tough--it's hard. GLORIA: Yeah, it is. KELLIE: It's hard.
But--so we want to help you prepare to live every day by
faith. GLORIA: Yeah, that's right. KELLIE: Every day, no
fear. GLORIA: Every situation, deal with it by faith. KELLIE:
Every situation. Man, you send your teenagers out in the car
for the first time by themselves, you need to be
walking in faith and not fear. GLORIA: Yes, amen. KELLIE: But
I'm telling you, it's an easy place to just put up with that
worry and just be relieved when they get back and not think a
thing about it, but those are places where you can exercise
your faith in God and in His promises. Okay, so, Mom--
GLORIA: I agree. KELLIE: --I found something in Luke 21 that,
to me, was really interesting. GLORIA: Okay, let's hear it.
KELLIE: Luke 21:5 says, "Some of his disciples began talking
about the majestic stonework of the Temple and the memorial
decorations on the walls. But Jesus said--" Now, let me just
point out here that they are sightseeing in the temple. They
are not thinking about spiritual things. They are not thinking
about the end of the world. You know, when you're going about
your daily life, maybe you're shopping, maybe you're at work,
you're taking care of stuff, you're at a baseball game,
you're at a soccer game, you're at a football game, you're at a
party, you're at a friend's house, you're sitting on the
couch, vegging, watching TV, you are not thinking about the end
of the world. But look at this, because Jesus was in their
presence, He had something to say to them that was a warning,
nothing to do with sightseeing. Suddenly, I can just see Peter,
you know, he's looking at the--looking at the stonework in
the temple. And Jesus suddenly says, "The time is coming when
all these things will be completely demolished. Not one
stone will be left on top of another!" What? And we need to
be that alert to His voice. And when we're going about our daily
life, we're always--He's always right there in our presence. We
are always mindful of Him. We have our face looking at His
24/7. And that takes practice. And it takes practice living
your life through Him. It's like Mary sat at His feet. Martha was
serving, but God didn't get on to her for serving. He got on to
her for caring and worrying and not looking to Him for the
serving. I mean, He fed thousands of people. Surely, He
could fit--feed 20 or whatever were in her living room. So
Jesus breaks into their--you know, their gazing about and
enjoying the beautiful temple, and He says, "Listen, things are
about to change." GLORIA: Yeah. KELLIE: Things are going to
change, and you need to be ready. So this is totally out of
the blue for them. Then they're like, "Well, teacher, when is
all this going to happen?" So when He says that, they started
asking Him questions. That's a good thing to do, isn't it, Mom?
GLORIA: Yeah. KELLIE: I think some people confuse questioning
God with asking Him questions. You know, I'm at the growth
place in my life that I don't question Him and His goodness
and His love anymore-- GLORIA: No. KELLIE: --because I've seen
that in the Word. Some people haven't gotten that yet, and
it's okay if you're at that place and you're questioning
God, "Do you love me?" I mean, if you don't know that He loves
you, then yes, ask Him, "Do you love me?" And let Him reveal
that to you. But once you see that, you don't really question,
you know, "God, why did this happen?" and--other than to say,
"Lord, did I mess up here? Show me what I need to do
differently." But you're not questioning His goodness--
GLORIA: No. KELLIE: --towards you anymore. But questioning Him
with what He says so that you have full understanding of it,
that's a good thing because we learn from Him. People sometimes
resist, I think, asking Him questions, thinking, "That's not
faith." But how can you put faith in something if you don't
have the Word on it? So you ask Him a question about something
that you don't know-- GLORIA: Or understanding. You ask--you can
ask-- KELLIE: Yeah. GLORIA: --for understanding of it.
KELLIE: And then He will give you answers. He'll give--show
you in the Word. He'll answer you in your heart. You'll turn
on the TV. There's Gloria Copeland. She's giving you a
Word. You know, He'll answer those questions for you because
He's our source of supply. We've got the Holy Spirit. The Holy
Spirit is expressing Jesus' words to us 24/7. And He's our
connector. Jesus sent Him to be that living, abiding Spirit on
the--Spirit speaking to us all the time, leading us. GLORIA:
Lead us into all the truth. KELLIE: Woo! GLORIA: Glory to
God. KELLIE: We are not going to fail, Mom. GLORIA: No, we're
not, not if we stay with Him. KELLIE: He says--so He goes on
to say--He starts telling them and describing to them the
things about the end times. You know, don't be misled. He says,
"You'll hear of wars and insurrections." But He says,
"Don't panic." I'm going to read some of this out of the New--out
of the-- GLORIA: Where are you right now? KELLIE: I'm in the
New Living, reading in Luke 21. I'm kind of skipping around, so
I'll try to tell you where I'm at before I read. But He's
talking in, like, Verse 8 and on about the signs and the things
that are coming that are not good. I'm reading out of the New
Living, but I'm going to read a little bit out of The Passion
Translation here in a minute. GLORIA: Okay. KELLIE: But it
says, "But before all these things occur, there will be a
time of great persecution." And He tells them, "You're going to
be dragged into synagogues you're going to be dragged into
prisons, and then you'll stand trial before kings and governors
because you're my followers." Mom, I believe that because I
read into that, the persecution, as I understand it, and the
persecution that I know, like Fay face, the disciple's face,
and even the persecution that occurs in other countries, I
think I just sort of passed over the rest of this because I'm not
in a country where I'm put in prison for what I speak. I mean,
sometimes it feels like it was headed that way about certain
things. Like, you know, you can't say this on TV or you
can't say that publicly. But I kind of skipped over the--some
of this until the Lord drew my attention to this and He said,
"No, you're persecuted for what you believe. His name is Satan."
GLORIA: Sure. KELLIE: And he is daily trying to accuse you. He's
the accuser of the brethren. He's the persecutor of the
church. So even--you may not be brought before the president or
a king of a country or even in a trial. But every day as he is
throwing things at you, you know what, you get to the place
you're not even aware of that stuff. You're so separate by the
blood of Jesus and by no fear that he's trying to throw stuff,
it just will not--it doesn't get through. But that's because
every day, you are taking your stand, not fearing and not
worrying and standing in faith-- GLORIA: You're standing in
faith, yeah. KELLIE: --over your whole life, pleading the blood
of Jesus-- GLORIA: Yeah. KELLIE: --all those things that we know
to do, taking authority over the enemy. But in that, it says
you'll stand before kings. Really, we do stand before the
Lord. We stand in His face, it says. It says we look to Him
face to face. So, really, these things are true for--just as
true for us. But as we speak, it's an opportunity, He says
here, for others to hear. As we speak about--we speak our faith,
we speak what's to come, we speak what the Word says. Other
people hear our deliverance. You know, we--I mentioned that
Lyndsey had meningitis, and she was delivered. And my thing that
came out of that was I refuse to fear. People took that word and
they heard it and they were delivered. GLORIA: That's right.
KELLIE: They heard. Men heard about what Jesus did. GLORIA:
Yeah. KELLIE: Women heard. People heard about how you've
been set free and the things that God's done for you
financially or with your kids, and it's changed other people's
lives. So these do apply to us. But here's what I thought was so
good. It says, "Don't worry--" Say, "Don't worry." GLORIA:
Don't worry. KELLIE: "--in advance about how to answer the
charges against you." Don't worry in advance. I mean, worry
is pointless. Don't worry in advance about what Satan tries
to throw at you, about what he tries to accuse you of, about
what he tries--I'm going to use the word--I'm going to replace
the word "charges" with what Satan tries to speak into your
life. GLORIA: Yeah. KELLIE: When he throws a worry and a care at
you, a thought, that's him attempting to speak into your
life. GLORIA: Do what the Bible says, resist him-- KELLIE: And
he will flee. GLORIA: --and he'll flee. KELLIE: He will
flee. GLORIA: Yes, amen. KELLIE: I want you to read that in a
minute. "Don't worry in advance how to answer these charged
against you, For I--" Listen to this. This is such a great
promise that I was like, "Lord, this is a promise from you,
Jesus. This is in red." "I will give you the right words and
such wisdom that none of your opponents will be able to reply
or refute you!" None of your opponents will be able to speak
back to you. Isn't that good? GLORIA: Yes, it is. KELLIE: It
says--and He goes on to talk about some things that'll
happen. But it says by Verse 19. This applies to us. "By standing
firm, you will win--firm, you will win your souls." Then it
goes on to talk about other things about the end times and
prophetic words. And then in Verse 26, it says, "The powers
in the heavens will be shaken." Well, the Word clearly says that
we--there is a shaking coming and a shaking to the body of
Christ. Sometimes as God is removing things from you in
these days and times--we've talked about that some--allowing
Him to correct you and remove stuff, it may feel like your
world is being shaken, but it's because the grace to stay the
same, the grace to stay unchanged, the grace to--
GLORIA: Faith is the same. Grace is the same. KELLIE: --the grace
to--the what? GLORIA: Faith is the same. KELLIE: Faith stays
the same. But your grace to remain unchanged by the Word,
your grace to just go about your business as usual and not have
your mind on kingdom things is gone because it's kingdom time.
And that's a good thing, but it can feel a little shaky. But the
Bible says, "There's this shaking." Go read it in Hebrews
12. But it says, "We'll see the Son of man coming on a cloud. So
when all these things begin to happen, stand and look up, for
your salvation is near!" And it says, "You--" when you see all
these things happening, you know that the kingdom of God is near.
"Heaven and earth--" this is Verse 33 "--will disappear--"
Listen to this. "--my words will never disappear." Connect that
back-- GLORIA: That's right. KELLIE: --to what He said when
you're in trouble. He's still talking about the same thing.
He's talking about, "Don't be disturbed. Don't worry. Don't
have anxiety. Don't have care." When you get--when something
comes against you, when the Satan comes against you with a
charge, He says, "Don't worry about what to answer to it." "I
will give you the right words and such wisdom that none of
your opponents--" GLORIA: That's awesome. KELLIE: "--can stand
against you or reply or refute you!" But here He says--those
words that He says He'll give us will not disappear. And here's
the phrase that I got. And I don't remember. I cannot find it
in any--it was so real to me, Mom, that I--that when He spoke
that to me, I thought I must have read it somewhere. So I
have looked in a translation of a Bible to say this and I can't
find it. And if you know it's in a different translation, tell
me, because right now I'm saying this was a word from heaven.
"I will never stop expressing Myself to you. I will never stop
giving you the right words to say when you're in trouble, the
right words to say on a day-to-day basis." GLORIA: Now,
what is that scripture, Kellie? KELLIE: That is Luke 21:33. And
it says here, "Don't let your hearts be dulled--" This is so
important, Mom. "--by carousing and drunkenness, and by the
worries of this life." What happens when people get into
trouble, when they don't look at Jesus, and they start worrying
about stuff and they start taking the care--they'll start
turning to alcohol. They'll start turning to-- GLORIA: Well,
that's true, drugs. KELLIE: --prescription drugs. GLORIA:
Yeah. KELLIE: They'll start turning to something to "shut my
insides up," turning to something to "get my mind off of
my life, my marriage, my kids, my troubles, my stress, my
anxiety, the hurts." He's saying, "Don't let your hearts
be dulled by those things." GLORIA: No, no, no, no. KELLIE:
But this says, "Don't let your hearts be dulled by the worries
of life." So what--you can get to the place that your worry
dulls your heart to what He's saying to you. The things you
reach out to, to try to shut that stuff up, to shut the cares
up, those things you turn to instead of Jesus will dull the
very voice of deliverance that He's speaking out to you. He
says the right word at the right time and Satan can't refuse.
That's what we want, but we can't let care and worry and
carousing, even--you know, that word, "carousing," I got from
the Lord that that's not just drunken partying, Mom. When
you're carousing is--and I'm not saying I've never binged a show
on Netflix and just watched 20 hours of TV because there was a
great series on Netflix. It's not that I've never done that,
but people can live this lifestyle of just escaping from
everything, watching TV. They can binge on sports with their
kids, binge on activities that they go do where they're just
filling their whole life and all their time up with these things.
None of those things are wrong to do, but they're wrong to fill
up on those things or try to quiet care and worry by
looking--just keeping yourself busy, or even care and worry
about your kids that you think, "Well, I have--my parents failed
me over sports, so I have to do this with my kids." Well, maybe
sports is part of this key to your kids following God, maybe
not. But He's the One that knows. So go unto Him over these
things. It says, "Don't let that day catch you unaware like a
trap. That day will come upon everyone." So this doesn't just
mean the disciples or everyone that is living in China or Iraq
or somewhere where people are being persecuted--Syria. This
says, "This day will come upon everyone living on the earth."
So that's me and you. So--but don't be afraid, He says, "Keep
alert at all times. And pray that you'll be strong enough to
escape these coming horrors and stand before the Son of Man."
GLORIA: Amen. KELLIE: What does that mean? Stand in His
presence. Stand with Him looking at you. I know I'm not going to
get to finish this. I'm going to read some of this out of this
Passion Translation. GLORIA: Okay. KELLIE: But I'm going to
pick it up tomorrow because this is so good. So this is Luke 21.
We'll just get as much done as we can. He says here in Verse 9,
"There will be many wars and revolutions on every side, and
rumors of more wars to come." Mom, this is the--I'm reading
out of this--these are so good, you all. You can get them, but
it'd be really good if you just listen to this because it's
worded differently. "Don't panic or give in to your fears, for
these things are bound to happen. This is still not the
end, yet." Jesus continued, and He continues to talk about the
upheavals and He talks about here--remember, when
you're--before--when you're thrown into prison and you're
before trial. Then Verse 14 says, "Yet determine in your
hearts not to prepare for your own defense." Now, this is
preparing for a defense before you're called up. You know what
that is? Worry. GLORIA: Yeah. KELLIE: The only way we prepare
for defense is looking at Jesus. We read His Word. We put His
Word in our heart. And we don't think, "Well, what if such and
such happens? Well, what if I get done here and then I have to
do this?" I mean, at work, you can worry about all kinds of
things. But stop worrying and don't prepare for your own
defense. Don't worry. "Simply speak the words of wisdom that I
will give you at that moment." When you're looking at Him,
you'll have the right words at the right time. Do you know
that's what He said in John 5:30 in the Amplified? He says, "I
can do nothing of myself." He said, "I decide as I am bidden
to decide." GLORIA: That's right. KELLIE: "I speak--" He's
saying, "I speak the words that I am given to speak." And that's
how we are and that's how we need to be. And when we look to
Him, we become free in our every moment of our life because we're
looking to Him and He has the answers. "None of your
persecutors will be able to withstand the grace and wisdom
that comes from your mouth." You know, grace is power. None of
your persecutors will be able to withstand that. GLORIA: Praise
God. KELLIE: Isn't that so good, Mom? GLORIA: It is good. It's
true. KELLIE: No matter what happens, this says here,
"cataclysmic storms," and this says, "great storms." So whether
those are literally weather storms or storms in your life,
He will give you the words to say. GLORIA: Amen. That's right.
You know what? You have to know what those words are before
they come up in your heart. That's why we spend
time in the Word. Kellie and I'll be right back.
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