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>> Rosemary: IT'S MONDAY,
JANUARY 8TH AND THIS IS "THE
NATIONAL."
>> Andrew: TONIGHT TWO
COMMUNICATES -- TWO HOMES BURNED
DOWN, EIGHT LIVES LOST.
WHAT WAS BEHIND TWO DEADLY FIRES
IN ONTARIO AND NOVA SCOTIA?
>> Ian: THE DEBATE OVER MINIMUM
WAGE RATCHETS UP AND TIM HORTON
SPEAKS UP.
AND ONTARIO VOWS TO NAME AND
SHAME.
>> Rosemary: BUT WE BEGIN WITH
THE SPEECH THAT GOT PEOPLE
TALKING, OPRAH, 2020.
>> FOR TOO LONG WOMEN HAVE NOT
BEEN HEARD OR BELIEVED IF THEY
DARED TO SPEAK THEIR TRUTH TO
THE POWER OF THOSE MEN.
BUT THEIR TIME IS UP.
[Applause]
THEIR TIME IS UP!
>> Rosemary: OKAY, HER SPEECH
AT THE GOLDEN GLOBES SURE WAS
POWERFUL BUT WAS IT
PRESIDENTIAL?
THERE ARE WHISPERS TODAY THAT
WINFREY HAS THE WHITE HOUSE IN
HER SIGHTS.
AFTER ALL A BUSINESS MOGUL AND A
TV HOST SITTING IN THE OVAL
OFFICE ISN'T QUITE SO
FAR-FETCHED ANYMORE.
PAUL HUNTER LOOKS AT WHETHER AN
OPRAH RUN COULD BECOME A
REALITY.
[Applause]
>> Reporter: BY NOW YOU MAY
WELL BE THINKING, OF COURSE!
IN THE U.S. TODAY IT MADE TOTAL
SENSE.
>> I WANT ALL OF THE GIRLS
WATCHING HERE NOW TO KNOW THAT A
NEW DAY IS ON THE HORIZON!
[Cheers and Applause]
>> Reporter: A GOLDEN GLOBES
THANK YOU SPEECH THAT SOUNDED,
SAY MANY, DOWNRIGHT
PRESIDENTIAL.
OPRAH WINFREY, NAME-CHECKING
ROSA PARKS, APPLAUDING WOMEN AND
MEN WHO ARE --
>> FIGHTING HARD TO MAKE SURE
THAT THEY BECOME THE LEADERS WHO
TAKE US TO THE TIME WHEN NOBODY
EVER HAS TO SAY ME TOO AGAIN!
[Cheers and Applause]
THANK YOU.
>> Reporter: THE INTERNET, AS
THEY SAY, EXPLODED.
IN TWEET AFTER TWEET, IT'S OPRAH
FOR PRESIDENT, OPRAH 2020,
PLEASE DO IT, WROTE LADY GAGA.
SHE ABSOLUTELY WOULD, OFFERED
WINFREY'S PARTNER, STEADMAN
GRAHAM.
SAID BY SOME NOW TO BE ACTIVELY
CONSIDERING IT,
WINFREY WAS ASKED IF SHE WOULD
RUN IN THE WEEKS AFTER TRUMP'S
2016 VICTORY.
HER ANSWER THEN -- HIS WIN
CHANGED EVERYTHING.
>> OH, GEE, I DON'T HAVE THE
EXPERIENCE I I DON'T KNOW ENOUGH
AND NOW I'M THINKING OH --
[laughter]
>> Reporter: ALL RIGHT, OKAY.
>> Reporter: INDEED, IT'S NO
LONGER FANTASY THAT A
BILLIONAIRE TV STAR WITH NO
POLITICAL EXPERIENCE COULD WIN
THE WHITE HOUSE.
SOMETHING TRUMP HIMSELF SEEMED
TO RECOGNIZE WHEN HE FIRST
CONSIDERED A RUN FOR THE
PRESIDENCY BACK IN 1999.
>> Reporter: YOU HAVE A VICE
PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE IN MIND?
>> Interview: WELL, I HAVEN'T
GOTTEN QUITE THERE YET.
OPRAH, I LOVE OPRAH AND OPRAH
WOULD ALWAYS BE MY FIRST CHOICE.
>> Reporter: BUT BATTLING FOR
PUBLIC OFFICE CAN BE BRUTAL AND
EVEN TODAY THE POSITIVE TWEETS,
THIS ONE FROM STEPHEN COLBERT
CAME WITH OTHERS LESS SO, THIS
FROM ACTOR JAMES WOODS,
WIN FREE AND HARVEY WEINSTEIN,
#ALLEARS.
SO WILL SHE DO IT?
WILL THE WOMAN WHO YEARS AGO
ASKED WOULD HE EVER RUN --
>> Interview: WOULD YOU EVER?
>> PROBABLY NOT.
>> Reporter: WILL SHE NOW RUN
TO REPLACE HIM?
STAY TUNED.
PAUL HUNTER, CBC NEWS,
WASHINGTON.
>> Rosemary: SO IF OPRAH DOES
DECIDE TO RUN SHE'S ALREADY GOT
ALL OF THE CONNECTIONS SHE NEEDS
TO FUND A CAMPAIGN.
LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT WHO
SURROUNDED OPRAH AT GLOBES LAST
NIGHT,
BIG-NAME CELEBRITIES WITH TIES
TO THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY...
[Applause]
SEATED AT THE SAME TABLE AS
OPRAH, SINGER/SONGWRITER BARBRA
STREES AND HER ACTOR HUSBAND
JAMES
BROLAND, LONG-TIME DONORS AND
OPRAH'S BEST FRIEND AND HOST
GAYLE KING GAVE MORE THAN
$30,000 TO THE PARTY AND OBAMA'S
CAMPAIGN BEFORE SHE STARTED AT
THE NETWORK.
DENZEL AND
PAULETTA WASHINGTON CONTRIBUTED
OVER $100,000 AT THE LAST
DECADE.
AND AT THE NEXT TABLE OVER
THERE, DIRECTOR STEVEN SPIELBERG
ALSO DONATED TO
THE PARTY FOR YEARS AND GAVE A
MILLION DOLLARS TO HILLARY
CLINTON'S 2016 CAMPAIGN.
OF COURSE, THE NEXT U.S.
PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION IS STILL
NEARLY THREE YEARS AWAY AND
WHILE SOME A-LISTERS MUSE ABOUT
MAKING A RUN FOR THE WHITE HOUSE
THERE'S AN EVEN LONGER LIST OF
CONVENTIONAL POLITICIANS
THINKING OF CHALLENGING TRUMP IN
2020.
>> Interview: IT IS A TERRIBLE
DAY FOR MILLIONS OF WORKING
FAMILIES IN THIS COUNTRY.
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>> Rosemary: MASSACHUSETTS
SENATOR ELIZABETH WARREN HAS
BECOME ONE OF THE NEW FACES OF
THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY, THE
LIBERAL ICON WROTE A BOOK AND
HAS ALREADY COLLECTED MILLIONS
IN DONATIONS, PERHAPS AN EARLY
SIGN OF A CAMPAIGN TO RIVAL
TRUMP.
>> DID YOU HAVE ANY
COMMUNICATION WITH ANY RUSSIAN
BUSINESSMAN?
>> Reporter: SENATOR KAMALA
HARRIS
RAISED HER PROFILE IN A FACEOFF
WITH JEFF SESSIONS IN THE RUSSIA
HEARINGS.
AND MEANWHILE NEW JERSEY SENATOR
CORY BOOKER HAS BEEN FLOATED AS
A PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE AND HE
APPEARED ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL
TO BOOST ALABAMA'S DOUG JONES
AND KIRSTEN GILLIBRAND HAS
EMERGED AS A LEADING ADVOCATE
FOR SEXUAL HARASSMENT VICTIMS.
>> Interview: IT WAS A SEXIST
SMEAR ATTEMPTING TO SILENCE MY
VOICE.
>> Reporter: SHE FOUGHT WITH
TRUMP AFTER CALLING FOR HIM TO
RESIGN AFTER ALLEGATIONS OF
SEXUAL MISCONDUCT.
>> Interview: I'M NOT SAYING
THAT I WOULDN'T RUN.
>> Reporter: AND FORMER U.S.
VICE PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN IS
LOOKING LIKE A CANDIDATE.
THE 75-YEAR-OLD IS PLANNING ON
SPENDING THIS YEAR TRAVELLING
THE U.S. AND REINTRODUCING
HIMSELF TO AMERICANS.
NEVER SAY YOU WON'T RUN BECAUSE
YOU NEVER KNOW.
WE'LL LIKELY GET A BETTER SENSE
OF THE FIELD AFTER THE MIDTERMS
LATER THIS YEAR, ANDREW, AND
MEANWHILE YOU'RE LOOKING AT TWO
FIRES THOUSANDS OF KILOMETRES
APART BUT BOTH PAINFULLY
SIMILAR?
>> Andrew: THAT'S RIGHT,
ROSIE.
AS OFFICIALS INVESTIGATE A FIRE
IN NOVA SCOTIA WHICH
KILLED FOUR CHILDREN ON SUNDAY
AND TODAY ANOTHER DEADLY FIRE
THIS TIME IN OSHAWA, ONTARIO.
>> Interview: OH, IT WAS
HORRIFIC AND YOU COULD SEE THE
FLAMES BEHIND THEM AND YOU COULD
HEAR THEM YELLING, GET OUT, GET
OUT!
YOU KNOW, THE OLDER GENTLEMAN
WAS TRYING TO BATTLE THE FIRE
BUT IT WAS JUST -- IT WAS
ALREADY OUT OF CONTROL.
>> Andrew: CHILDREN WERE AMONG
THE VICTIMS IN THIS FIRE TOO.
TWO CHILDREN WERE KILLED, ALONG
WITH THEIR MOTHER AND A
50-YEAR-OLD MAN.
ALI CHIASSON HAS MORE.
>> Reporter: YOU CAN TELL BY
THE BLACKENED BLOWN OUT WINDOWS
THAT THIS FIRE WAS BIG.
>> Interview: IT LOOKED LIKE
AN INFERNO.
>> Interview: IT TOOK OFF THAT
WHOLE BACKSIDE OF THE HOUSE.
>> Reporter: NEIGHBOURS HEARD
A BANG, FOLLOWED BY A FLASH.
>> Interview: THEY WERE COMING
OUT IN THEIR BARE FEET AND THERE
WAS ONE
POOR LADY AND ALL SHE HAD WAS
HER UNDERWEAR AND A T-SHIRT.
>> Interview: PEOPLE CAME OUT
WITH FLAMES EVERYWHERE.
>> Reporter: CREWS ARRIVED
QUICKLY BUT BOTH LEVELS WERE
ENGULFED.
>> Interview: THE FIRE WAS
AROUND THEM AT ALL TIMES WHEN
THEY WERE FIGHTING THEIR WAY UP
AND THEY HAD TO RETREAT AND
AFTER RETREATING THEY FORCED
THEIR WAY BACK IN A SECOND TIME.
>> Reporter: OF THE 11 PEOPLE
WHO LIVED IN THE MULTI- UNIT
HOME,
A 50-YEAR-OLD MAN NAMED STEPHEN
MacDONALD DIED AND LYNDSAY
BONCHEK AND HER DAUGHTER,
MADELINE AND 4-YEAR-OLD SON
JACKSON.
IT'S BELIEVED THAT HER SON BEN
WAS OUT HERE WAITING FOR HIS
SCHOOL BUS LIKE EVERY MORNING
WHEN THE FLAMES ERUPTED AT HIS
HOME.
WHEN THE SCHOOL BUS ARRIVED THE
FIREFIGHTERS TURNED IT INTO A
MAKESHIFT SHELTER FOR EVERYONE
THAT THEY WERE EVACUATING AND
NOW IT APPEARS THAT HIS MOTHER
AND HIS BROTHER AND HIS SISTER
NEVER MADE IT OUT ALIVE.
>> Interview: HONESTLY, I LOOK
AT IT AND I'M LIKE, THANK GOD I
HAVE THREE EXITS.
>> Reporter: THE OFFICE OF THE
FIRE MARSHAL IS INVESTIGATING
THE CAUSE AND EXACTLY WHERE THE
FIRE ORIGINATED AND WHETHER
THERE WERE WORKING SMOKE ALARMS
IN THE BUILDING BUT ALSO WHETHER
THIS WAS A LEGAL ROOMING HOUSE
THAT WAS UP TO CODE.
WITH THAT, OSHAWA'S FIRE CHIEF
HAS A REMINDER FOR EVERYONE
LISTENING...
>> Interview: NO MATTER WHAT
DWELLING YOU LIVE IN, IF YOU
HAVE WORKING SMOKE ALARMS THAT'S
THE KEY AND A FIRE ESCAPE PLAN
TO GET OUT OF YOUR HOUSE IN
TIME.
>> Reporter: THIS
INVESTIGATION IS EXPECTED TO
LAST UNTIL THE END OF THE WEEK.
ALI CHIASSON, CBC NEWS, OSHAWA.
>> Andrew: INVESTIGATORS ARE
ALSO STILL SEARCHING FOR ANSWERS
AT A SCENE OF A DEVASTATING
HOUSE FIRE IN NOVA SCOTIA WHICH
CLAIMED THE LIVES OF FOUR
CHILDREN.
BUT THEY NOW SAY THAT THE FIRE
DOES NOT APPEAR TO BE
SUSPICIOUS.
YOU CAN SEE RIGHT THERE THE
INVESTIGATORS ARE PULLING DOWN
THE ONE REMAINING WALL TODAY FOR
SAFETY REASONS AND BEGAN COMBING
THROUGH WHAT IS LEFT OF THE
HOME.
THE HOUSE WAS ENGULFED IN FLAMES
EARLY SUNDAY MORNING.
TWO ADULTS ESCAPED, ONE OF THEM
INJURED.
AUTHORITIES HAVEN'T OFFICIALLY
RELEASED THE IDENTITIES OF THE
YOUNG VICTIMS BUT THE TINY TOWN
IS REELING.
>> Interview: WE'RE A
COMMUNITY WITH THE SURROUNDING
COMMUNITY ABOUT 2,000 PEOPLE AND
WE ARE LIKE ONE LARGE FAMILY.
SO SOMETHING LIKE THIS I'VE
NEVER EXPERIENCED IN MY LIFETIME
AND IT'S JUST ONE WHOLE FAMILY.
SO EVERYONE IS AFFECTED DEEPLY.
>> Andrew: SO THE RCMP HAS
TURNED THE CASE OVER TO THE
PROVINCIAL MEDICAL EXAMINER WHO
WILL CONTINUE TO INVESTIGATE THE
CAUSE OF THE FIRE.
MEANWHILE, IAN, IN
ONTARIO TONIGHT THE DEBATE OVER
THE MINIMUM WAGE HAS A LOT OF
PEOPLE UPSET AND SOME BUSINESSES
ARE PUSHING BACK?
>> Ian: ANDREW THIS STORY
CONTINUES TO GET SO MUCH
REACTION.
TODAY THE ONTARIO
LABOUR MINISTER SAID THAT THE
WORKERS' COMPLAINTS TO THE
PROVINCE HAVE JUMPED BY 30%.
>> Interview: WE HAVE ALSO
INCREASED THE PENALTIES FOR
EMPLOYERS WHO CONTRAVENE THE
EMPLOYMENT STANDARDS ACT.
AND FOR THE FIRST TIME THE
MINISTER OF LABOUR NOW CAN BY
LAW PUBLISH THE NAMES OF
EMPLOYERS WHO BREAK THE RULES.
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE
VERY WILLING TO DO.
>> Ian: SO THE PROVINCE SAYS
THAT IT AIMS TO PROTECT
EMPLOYEES BUT SOME AREN'T
WILLING TO WAIT.
STEPHANIE SKENDERIS TALKS WITH A
WORKER WHO HAS HAD ENOUGH.
>> Interview: I PLANNED ON
BEING A LIFER.
>> Reporter: AFTER NINE YEARS
AT TIM HORTONS THIS SUPERVISOR
HAS GIVEN HER NOTICE.
SHE SAYS THAT THE CHANGES
BROUGHT IN OVER THE NEW MINIMUM
WAGE WERE JUST TOO MUCH.
THEY WERE ANNOUNCED IN A LETTER
POSTED ON AN OFFICE DOOR.
>> Interview: BREAKS WOULD NOT
BE PAID AND IT DOESN'T TELL
ABOUT THE CUT BUT YOU LOOK AT
YOUR
SCHEDULE AND YOU SEE A
SIGNIFICANT CUT IN YOUR HOURS.
I WENT FROM A NINE-HOUR
SHIFT TO BEING PAID FOR A 7.5
HOUR SHIFT.
>> Reporter: HOW DOES THAT ADD
UP TO YOU?
>> Interview: I MAKE ABOUT $62
LESS EVERY TWO WEEKS.
>> Interview: IT'S THE ACT OF
BULLIES THAT HAS NO PLACE IN
THIS PROVINCE.
>> Reporter: TODAY ONTARIO'S
MINISTER OF LABOUR EXPRESSED
FRUSTRATION WITH HOW SOME
BUSINESSES HAVE REACTED.
>> Aarti: THEY'VE GONE
OVERBOARD AND THEY'RE COMPLYING
WITH THE ACT BUT, CERTAINLY, NOT
COMPLYING WITH THE SPIRIT OF THE
ACT AND IN SOME CASES, AND IN
SOME CASES IT APPEARS THEY'VE
GONE TO THE POINT OF DOING
THINGS THAT ARE ALLEGED TO BE
ILLEGAL.
WE'RE INVESTIGATING THESE
CHARGES.
>> Reporter: FLYNN SAYS THAT
THE PROVINCE IS HIRING 175
EMPLOYMENT STANDARDS OFFICERS TO
ENFORCE THE LAW, IT WILL INSPECT
ONE IN 10 ONTARIO WORKPLACES ON
A PROACTIVE BASIS AND WILL
PUBLISH THE NAMES OF ANY
BUSINESSES CAUGHT BREAKING THE
LAW.
BUT THIS EMPLOYMENT LAWYER SAYS
THAT THE TOUGH TALK MAY NOT
AMOUNT TO MUCH.
>> Interview: THERE'S NO LEGAL
REPERCUSSION WITH ANY BUSINESS
THAT DECIDES TO GO AGAINST,
QUOTE/UNQUOTE, THE SPIRIT OF THE
LEGISLATION.
AND, OF COURSE, THAT'S A
SUBJECTIVE TERM.
WHAT MATTERS FUNDAMENTALLY FROM
A LEGAL PERSPECTIVE IS THE
LETTER OF THE LEGISLATION.
>> Reporter: JASON SAYS THAT
THE GOVERNMENT SHOULD HAVE
EXPECTED A BUSINESS BACKLASH.
>> Interview: IT IS AN
UNFORTUNATE CONSEQUENCE BUT
IT'S, NONETHELESS, A PREDICTABLE
CONSEQUENCE.
>> Reporter: PREDICTABLE,
MAYBE.
BUT THAT DOESN'T MAKE IT EASIER
FOR THE WORKERS CAUGHT IN THE
CROSSHAIRS.
>> Interview: WHETHER IT'S
ILLEGAL OR NOT, IT'S NOT RIGHT,
YOU KNOW, I HAVE GIVEN THEM NINE
YEARS.
AND THAT'S WHAT THEY GIVE ME
BACK.
>> Reporter: SHE THINKS THAT
TIM HORTONS' EMPLOYEES SHOULD
UNIONIZE SO THIS CAN'T HAPPEN
AGAIN.
STEPHANIE SKENDERIS, CBC NEWS,
HAMILTON, ONTARIO.
>> Ian: ONTARIO IS NOT ALONE,
ALBERTA IS PARTWAY
THROUGH ITS OWN MINIMUM WAGE
INCREASE.
IN 2015 IT WAS $10.20 AND THAT
WAS THE COUNTRY'S SECOND LOWEST
AND THE N.D.P. GOVERNMENT
PLEDGED TO PHASE IN INCREASES
OVER THREE YEARS TO TAKE IT TO
$15 BY OCTOBER 1st.
WE ASKED TERRY REITH TO LOOK AT
THE IMPACTS SO FAR.
>> Reporter: IN ALBERTA THERE
ARE BUSINESSES THAT GRUMBLE --
>> Interview: IT'S JUST THE
CONSTANT INCREASES OF DOING
BUSINESS AND THE MINIMUM WAGE IS
JUST A FACTOR IN THAT.
>> Reporter: AND SOME THAT
DON'T MIND PAYING A HIGHER
MINIMUM WAGE.
>> Interview: AND IF THEY'LL
BE HAPPY AND YOU PAY YOUR
EMPLOYEES A GOOD WAGES AND
THEY'LL ALL BE HAPPY WORKERS.
>> Reporter: ALBERTA'S MOVE TO
$15-AN-HOUR THIS OCTOBER HAS NOT
MET THE RESISTANCE THAT IT HAS
IN ONTARIO.
A BIG REASON?
SO FEW WORKERS EARN MINIMUM
WAGE.
ONLY ABOUT 212,000 PEOPLE.
11% OF THE LABOUR FORCE EARN THE
CURRENT MINIMUM OF $13.60 AN
HOUR.
COMPARE THAT TO ONTARIO, WHERE
1.2 MILLION PEOPLE, 20% OF THE
WORKFORCE, EARN UNDER $14 AN
HOUR.
ONE BIG REASON FOR THE
DIFFERENCE IS ALBERTA'S RESOURCE
ECONOMY WHICH TENDS TO DRIVE UP
WAGES.
>> Interview: RIGHT NOW
ALBERTA HAS A LABOUR SHORTAGE
AND SO IT ISN'T THE MINIMUM WAGE
THAT IS, IN FACT, THE PROBLEM
RIGHT NOW.
WE CAN'T GET WORKERS TO WORK THE
LOWEST WAGE JOBS IN OUR ECONOMY
AND THAT'S A PROBLEM FOR US.
>> Reporter: STILL, FOR SMALL
BUSINESS OWNERS IT ISN'T EASY.
JILL JOHNSON AND HER SISTER OWN
RESTAURANTS IN CALGARY AND
EDMONTON.
THE EDMONTON LOCATION WILL CLOSE
IN MARCH.
THE SISTERS ARE DOING DOUBLE
DUTY AT THEIR REMAINING OUTLET.
>> Interview: WELL, I'M THE
WAITRESS TODAY AND MY SISTER IS
THE WAITRESS TOMORROW AND WE
JUST -- SOMETIMES WE CLOSE A
LITTLE EARLIER AND OPEN A LITTLE
LATER AND WE'VE MADE
ADJUSTMENTS.
>> Reporter: BUT HE SEES A
SILVER LINING IN PAYING HIS
EMPLOYEES MORE.
>> Interview: I THINK THAT THE
MORE MONEY THAT COMES TO THE
PEOPLE'S POCKET THEY'LL SPEND
MORE MONEY IN MY BUSINESS AND
EVERYBODY WILL BE VERY HAPPY.
>> Reporter: NOT EVERYONE IS
HAPPY.
CRITICS STILL SAY THAT FORCED
RAISES COST JOBS BUT OVERALL
WITH RECENT NEWS OF 70,000 NEW
JOBS CREATED IN ALBERTA, THE
MINIMUM WAGE DEBATE ISN'T NEARLY
AS HEATED AS IT ONCE WAS.
TERRY REITH, CBC NEWS, EDMONTON.
>> Ian: WELL, ROSEMARY, LET'S
MOVE FROM A CONTROVERSY THAT MAY
IN ONTARIO AT LEAST BE GROWING
TO ONE THAT MAY BE MOVING
TOWARDS A RESOLUTION.
>> Rosemary: A BIT OF ONE
ANYWAY, IAN.
TO SAY THAT FINANCE MINISTER
BILL MORNEAU HAD A
COUPLE ROUGH MONTHS IS AN
UNDERSTATEMENT.
HE WAS THE OPPOSITION PUNCHING
BAG AND HE TOOK A RELENTLESS
POUNDING
OVER ETHICS AND WHAT THE
OPPOSITION CALLED ARROGANCE BUT
AS DAVID COCHRANE REPORTS, TODAY
MORNEAU GOT SOME REDEMPTION.
>> Reporter: THE OPPOSITION
THOUGHT THIS WAS THE SMOKING GUN
THAT WOULD END BILL MORNEAU.
>> WHY IS HE STILL IN CABINET?
>> WHY DOESN'T HE DO THE RIGHT
THING AND RESIGN?
>> HOW CAN HE BE TRUSTED WITH
THE BUDGET OF CANADA?
>> HE NEEDS TO RESIGN.
>> Reporter: THE ALLEGATION IS
THAT MORNEAU AND HIS FATHER USED
INSIDE INFORMATION TO DUMP
SHARES IN THE FAMILY COMPANY
RIGHT BEFORE THE LIBERALS RAISED
TAXES ON THE RICH.
>> IS IT JUST A COINCIDENCE THAT
BOTH HE AND HIS FATHER SOLD
MILLIONS OF DOLLARS OF SHARES A
WEEK BEFORE HE INTRODUCED TAX
INCREASES THAT HELPED TO DROP
THE VALUE OF THOSE SHARES?
>> The Hon. Bill Morneau: I
WANT TO SAY THAT I HAVE A LEVEL
OF DISGUST ON WHAT IS GOING ON
ON THE OTHER SIDE...
>> Reporter: BUT THE ETHICS
COMMISSIONER HAS NOW RULED THAT
THE ALLEGATIONS DID NOT AMOUNT
TO ANYTHING CLOSE TO SCANDALOUS,
LARGELY BECAUSE THE LIBERALS
CAMPAIGNED ON THE TAX CHANGES,
TOLD THE COUNTRY WHEN THEY WERE
COMING --
>> THE PRIME MINISTER MADE IT
CLEAR TO US THAT IT'S HIS HOPE
AND INTENTIONS THAT THE TAX
MEASURES COULD BE IN PLACE FOR
JANUARY 1st.
>> Reporter: AND THEN DID
EXACTLY AS THEY PROMISED,
MEANING THAT IT WAS NOWHERE
CLOSE TO TIGHTLY HELD INSIDE
INFORMATION.
>> Prime Minister Justin
Trudeau: I HAVE FULL CONFIDENCE
IN THE MINISTER OF FINANCE...
>> Reporter: THE PRIME
MINISTER STOOD WITH MORNEAU
THROUGHOUT IT ALL BUT IT CAME
WITH SOME TOUGH POLITICAL
LESSONS --
>> The Hon. Bill Morneau: WHAT
WE HAVE SEEN OVER THE LAST WEEK
IS THAT I NEED TO DO MORE.
>> Reporter: AND SOME BIG
FINANCIAL COSTS.
TO HELP TO MAKE THE CONTROVERSY
GO AWAY, MORNEAU SOLD ALL OF HIS
SHARES IN THE FAMILY BUSINESS
AND DONATED THE $10 MILLION IN
PROFIT TO CHARITY.
>> Rosemary: DAVID COCHRANE IS
JOINING ME NOW WITH MORE.
OKAY, SO IS THIS THE END OF IT,
SMOOTH SAILING RIGHT AHEAD FOR
THE FINANCE MINISTER, DAVID, OR
NOT SO MUCH?
>> Reporter: NO, NOT YET.
I MEAN, THE CONSERVATIVES ARE
NOT LETTING THIS GO AND THEY
HAVE ISSUED A STATEMENT TONIGHT
FROM PIERRE
POILIEVRE AND ACCUSING HIM OF
BAD JUDGMENT THOUGH HE'S CLEARED
OF ETHICAL VIOLATIONS.
AND THERE'S ONE MORE BIG ISSUE
TO BE DEALT WITH.
THE N.D.P. HAS ASKED THE ETHICS
COMMISSIONER TO LOOK AT MORE
NOR'S ROLE IN PENSION DRAFT
LEGISLATION, BILL C-27 AND THAT
LEGISLATION THAT HIS CRITIC SAY
ALLOWS HIS FAMILY'S COMPANY,
MORNEAU SHAPELL, TO MAKE A LOT
OF MONEY
IF IT BECOMES LAW.
SO MARY DAWSON IS STILL LOOKING
INTO THAT AND WE'RE STILL
WAITING FOR THE FINDINGS OF THAT
INVESTIGATION AND, ROSIE,
MORNEAU AS HE HAS THROUGHOUT ALL
OF THIS IS PROMISING TO
COOPERATE FULLY WITH THAT ONE SO
NOT QUITE DONE YET.
>> Rosemary: SO A GLIMMER OF
HOPE BUT NOT FULLY.
THANK YOU, DAVID, I APPRECIATE
IT.
>>> FORMER CONSERVATIVE SENATOR
LYNN BEYAK FIRED BACK AT ANDREW
SCHEER AFTER HE TOSSED HER FROM
CAUCUS FOR REFUSING TO REMOVE
LETTERS FROM HER SENATE WEBSITE
THAT EXPRESSED SUPPORT FOR
RESIDENTIAL SCHOOLS.
SHE DENIES IT AND SAYING IN A
STATEMENT... "CONTRARY TO HIS
STATEMENT THAT HE ASKED ME TO
REMOVE CONTENT AND I REFUSED...
THAT STATEMENT IS COMPLETELY
FALSE.
ISN'T IT INTERESTING THAT OLD
LETTERS ON THE WEBSITE FOR
MONTHS WITHOUT CONTROVERSY ARE
USED TO BAIT OPPOSITION
LEADERSHIP?
A GOOD LEADER WOULD HAVE NEVER
FALLEN FOR SUCH A PLOY BUT WHEN
AN INEXPERIENCED LEADER WINS BY
A SMALL MARGIN SOME WISDOM AND
COMMON SENSE ARE LOST."
ANDREW SCHEER HAS NOT RESPONDED
BEYOND THE STATEMENT THAT HE
RELEASED LAST WEEK AND, FELLAS,
I
HAVE TO SAY NOW THAT SHE IS CUT
LOOSE IT'S PROBABLY NOT THE LAST
THAT WE'LL HEAR FROM SENATOR
BEYAK.
>> Andrew: STILL AHEAD ON "THE
NATIONAL"... REPRESENTATIVES
FROM NORTH AND SOUTH KOREA ARE
MEETING TONIGHT FOR THE FIRST
TIME IN TWO YEARS.
SASA PETRICIC IS IN SEOUL WITH
MORE ON WHAT COULD COME OF THE
TALKS NEXT.
>> Ian: PLUS, WHAT "FIRE AND
FURY" HAVE TO DO WITH A TORONTO
UNIVERSITY PROFESSOR WHOSE
10-YEAR-OLD BOOK JUST HIT THE
BESTSELLER LIST.
>> Rosemary: AND MY
CONVERSATION WITH SAMANTHA BEE,
LATE-NIGHT ONLY FEMALE HOST,
TALKS TRUMP, ADVICE FOR YOUNG
WOMEN AND, OF COURSE, THE
#METOO.
>> Interview: I DON'T KNOW, I
COULDN'T -- I COULDN'T NAME A
SINGLE WOMAN WHO I HAVE EVER
SPOKEN TO WHO HASN'T ENCOUNTERED
IT IN HER LIFE.
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>> Andrew: ON "THE NATIONAL"
TONIGHT, THE WEEKND SAYS HE'S
DONE WITH H & M, HE'S ENDING HIS
RELATIONSHIP WITH THE CLOTHING
COMPANY AFTER THIS ADVERTISEMENT
GOT HIM AND A LOT OF OTHERS
UPSET.
THE AD HAS BEEN CALLED
EVERYTHING FROM "INAPPROPRIATE"
TO "DOWNRIGHT RACIST," H & M
PULLED THE IMAGE AND APOLOGIZED
TO ANYONE OFFENDED.
>>> ALSO TONIGHT, THE U.S. MEDIA
IS REPORTING THAT DONALD TRUMP
COULD BE INTERVIEWED AS PART OF
THE INVESTIGATION INTO RUSSIAN
ELECTION MEDDLING.
THE LAWYERS ARE IN TALKS WITH
ROBERT MUELLER AND A TEAM OF
INVESTIGATORS AND THE INTERVIEW
COULD TAKE PLACE IN A MATTER OF
WEEKS.
>>> DEMONSTRATORS GATHERED
OUTSIDE OF THE WHITE HOUSE
PROTESTING THE TRUMP
ADMINISTRATION'S DECISION TO
SCRAP TEMPORARY PROTECTIVE
STATUS FOR THOUSANDS OF ILGRANTS
FROM EL SALVADOR, MANY WHOM HAVE
LIVED IN THE U.S. FOR DECADES.
>> TO GIVE CITIZENSHIP.
>> Andrew: THEY RECEIVED
PROTECTED STATUS IN 2001 AFTER
TWO DEVASTATING EARTHQUAKES LEFT
HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS HOMELESS.
IT HAD BEEN EXTENDED SEVERAL
TIMES BEFORE TRUMP PULLED THE
PLUG TODAY.
SALVADORANS HAVE TO
SEPTEMBER 2019 TO FIND A LEGAL
WAY TO STAY OR ELSE LEAVE THE
COUNTRY.
>>> SOMETHING ELSE THAT WE'RE
KEEPING A CLOSE EYE ON AT THIS
HOUR, A RARE HIGH-STAKES MEETING
BETWEEN NORTH AND SOUTH KOREA.
RIGHT NOW FOR THE FIRST TIME IN
MORE THAN TWO YEARS, THE TWO
SIDES ARE MEETING FOR HIGH-LEVEL
TALKS.
THIS WAS THE SCENE EARLIER AS
THE SOUTH KOREAN DELEGATION MADE
ITS WAY TO THE MEETING.
IT'S TAKING PLACE IN A
DE-MILITARIZED ZONE.
HERE'S WHAT THE AREA AT THE
BORDER ZONE LOOKS LIKE RIGHT
NOW.
RIGHT NOW IT'S JUST BEFORE 12:
12:30 p.m. TUESDAY LOCAL TIME.
TALKS HAD BEEN UNDERWAY FOR MORE
THAN AN HOUR NOW AND OFFICIALLY
ON THE AGENDA, WHETHER NORTH
KOREA WILL SEND ATHLETES TO THE
UPCOMING OLYMPIC GAMES IN SOUTH
KOREA BUT THERE'S POTENTIALLY A
LOT MORE THAN THAT AT STAKE.
ASIA CORRESPONDENT SASA PETRICIC
IS IN SOUTH KOREA RIGHT NOW, SO,
SASA, WHAT ARE YOU WATCHING FOR
OUT OF THESE TALKS?
>> Reporter: ANDREW, AS YOU
MENTIONED
THIS IS OSTENSIBLY ABOUT THE
OLYMPICS AND THE QUESTION
WHETHER NORTH KOREA WILL
PARTICIPATE IS ON EVERYBODY'S
MIND AND IT IS CONSIDERED
SIGNIFICANT, BOTH SYMBOLICALLY
AND ALSO BECAUSE IF THEY'RE
PARTICIPATING THERE'S FAR LESS
OF A CHANCE OF MISSILES GOING
OFF NORTH OF THE BORDER HERE.
BUT BEYOND THAT THERE'S A BIGGER
QUESTION OF WHETHER THEY COULD
MOVE ON FROM THIS AND PERHAPS
EVEN START TALKING ABOUT
REDUCING THE NORTH'S NUCLEAR
ARSENAL.
FOR THAT TO HAPPEN THE AMERICANS
WOULD HAVE TO BE INVOLVED AND
TODAY THEY'RE NOT AT THE TABLE.
THIS IS VERY MUCH A FIRST STEP.
>> Andrew: RIGHT, SO THEN WHAT
IS THE MOOD ACTUALLY LIKE IN
SOUTH KOREA RIGHT NOW?
I MEAN, ARE PEOPLE EXPECTING
MEANINGFUL PROGRESS?
>> Reporter: WELL, I DON'T
KNOW IF THEY'RE EXPECTING IT,
THEY'RE HOPING FOR IT.
I HAVE SEEN THIS COUNTRY DEEPLY
SPLIT OVER THE PAST YEAR WITH A
LOT OF PEOPLE JUST NOT TRUSTING
THE NORTH.
THEY THINK THAT SOUTH KOREA IS
BEING PLAYED ON THIS ONE AND
THAT THE NORTH HAS NO INTENTION
OF MOVING FORWARD AND CUTTING
ITS NUCLEAR ARSENAL OR, IN FACT,
DOING ANYTHING TOWARDS PEACE.
OTHERS HERE WOULD LIKE TO SEE
COOPERATION INSTEAD OF
CONFRONTATION AND THEY'VE BEEN
WORKING TOWARD THAT AND THEY
HOPE THAT THIS IS A FIRST STEP
BUT, FRANKLY, I DON'T THINK THAT
ANYONE HERE IS EXPECTING A GREAT
DEAL.
EXPECTATIONS ARE QUITE LOW.
>> Andrew: WELL, A LOT TO
WATCH FOR TONIGHT OR MID-DAY FOR
YOU, SASA, THANK YOU SO MUCH.
>> Reporter: MY PLEASURE.
>> Ian: STILL AHEAD ON "THE
NATIONAL"... THE DISAPPEARING
NEIGHBOURHOOD PAPER ROUTE.
HOW A DEAL BETWEEN TWO MEDIA
CONGLOMERATES IS TAKING MONEY
OUT OF THE POCKETS OF YOUNGSTERS
AND SOME ADULTS TOO.
>> Interview: YOUNG PEOPLE
THAT DO IT, YOU KNOW, SOME OF
THEM THAT'S HOW THEY PAY FOR
THEIR TEAM SPORTS AND
TOURNAMENTS THEY WANT TO GO TO.
AND I HAVE
SENIORS WHO THEY BARELY GET
THROUGH THE MONTH AND THAT IS
THE EXTRA MONEY THEY MAKE THAT
GETS THEM THROUGH FROM ONE
CHEQUE TO THE NEXT.
(*)
>>> Rosemary: PLUS CANADIAN
COMEDIENNE
SAMANTHA BEE FINDS HUMOUR IN THE
HEADLINES.
THAT'S NEXT ON "THE NATIONAL."
YOU HAVE BEEN CALLED THE
RESISTANCE MOVEMENT?
>> Interview: THAT'S A PRETTY
HEAVY YOKE TO WEAR AROUND YOUR
NECK WHEN YOU'RE TRYING TO MAKE
A SHOW THAT'S FUNNY WITH ALREADY
CHALLENGING MATERIAL.
(*)
>> Interview: I HONESTLY FEEL
THAT HE'S BEEN SUCH A DISGRACE
TO THE OFFICE THAT I HAVE NO
RETICENCE
WHATSOEVER TO SPEAK TRUTHFULLY
ABOUT IT AND THAT'S FINE FOR ME.
>> Rosemary: SAMANTHA BEE IS
FUELLED BY HER OUTRAGE AND IN
THIS TRUMP ERA SHE'S FOUND HER
FOIL, THE TORONTO-BORN
COMEDIENNE ISN'T AFRAID TO TAKE
JABS AT THE PRESIDENT OR SPEAK
OUT ON ISSUES LIKE SEXUAL
HARASSMENT IN THE WORKPLACE AND
IT'S PAID OFF.
HER SHOW "FULL FRONTAL" IS AS A
GO TO FOR LATE-NIGHT POLITICAL
SATIRE.
I RECENTLY CAUGHT UP WITH
SAMANTHA BEE IN HER MANHATTAN
OFFICE.
(*)
NEVER HEARD OF THIS PERSON?
>> NO.
>> Rosemary: SAMANTHA BEE?
BECAUSE SHE'S A CANADIAN AND
SHE'S A COMEDIENNE AND SHE
WORKED WITH "THE DAILY SHOW WITH
JON STEWART" AND SHE NOW HAS HER
OWN SHOW CALLED "FULL FRONTAL"
AND SHE'S BEEN REALLY BEEN VOCAL
ABOUT TRUMP AND OTHER THINGS BUT
I MEAN SHE'S A DUAL CITIZEN NOW
BUT SHE'S FROM CANADA.
>> SO SHE CANNOT BE DEPORTED?
>> Rosemary: NO, SHE'S NOW AN
AMERICAN TOO, SO, NO, HE CAN'T
GET RID OF HER.
[laughter]
>> WELCOME TO "FULL FRONTAL" AND
I'M SAMANTHA BEE.
IN CASE YOU DIDN'T REALIZE IT
HAS BEEN A HUGE WEEK FOR WOMEN!
STARTING LAST WEEK WHEN AMERICA
ENCOUNTERED THIS SEASON'S SECOND
GIANT VORTEX OF DESTRUCTIVE
MOISTURE NAMED HARVEY.
SO LISTEN UP, CREEPS OF
HOLLYWOOD, WOMEN TALK TO EACH
AND OTHER WE TALK TO JOURNALISTS
AND WE TALK TO LAWYERS AND IT'S
2017.
WE DON'T HAVE TO PUT UP WITH
THIS SHIT!
WE ARE COMING FOR YOU.
>> Rosemary: HELLO, WE'LL PUT
YOU OVER HERE IF THAT'S OKAY AND
MIKE YOU UP.
(*)
WE GOOD?
OKAY.
HI.
>> Interview: HI.
>> Rosemary: THANK YOU FOR
MAKING THE TIME FOR US.
>> Interview: I'M SO EXCITED
THAT YOU'RE HERE.
>> Rosemary: I'M SO EXCITED
THAT I'M HERE TOO.
I WANT TO START WITH ALL OF THIS
SEXUAL MISCONDUCT STUFF.
>> Interview: OF COURSE,
ALWAYS START WITH SEXUAL
MISCONDUCT.
>> Rosemary: YOU HAVE TO THESE
DAYS.
WE WERE ON OUR NEWS CALL EARLIER
THIS MORNING AND THE ASSIGNMENT
EDITOR SAID AND ON THE SEXUAL
MISCONDUCT BLOCK TODAY I HAVE SO
AND SO AND SO AND SO AND EVERY
DAY THERE'S A NEW NAME.
>> Interview: YES.
I FEEL THAT THERE'S BEEN NAMES
SINCE WE'VE BEEN SITTING HERE
PROBABLY.
>> Rosemary: PROBABLY.
I FEEL LIKE IT'S SORT OF HIT YOU
IN A DIFFERENT WAY MAYBE.
SO TELL ME HOW -- HOW THAT IS
MOTIVATING YOU?
>> Interview: IT'S SOMETHING
THAT WE THINK ABOUT AS IT
EVOLVES JUST LIKE ANYBODY ELSE,
BUT, I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY, WE HAVE
DONE PROBABLY MORE
ON IT THAN OTHER SHOWS HAVE
BECAUSE IT IS THE WORLD THAT WE
INHABIT AND THESE STORIES ARE
IMPORTANT TO US.
>> Rosemary: IT DOES SEEM THAT
OUTRAGE IS BIG.
IT IS PART WHAT FUELS YOUR
COMEDY.
>> Interview: IT'S NOT REALLY
WHAT
PEOPLE WANT ANYMORE, TO DO
MONOLOGUE JOKES ABOUT CELEBRITY
ANTICS.
I MEAN THERE MAY BE -- THERE IS
PROBABLY A
HUGE GROUP OF PEOPLE WHO DO WANT
THAT AND THEY HAVE THAT IF
THAT'S WHAT THEY WANT AND THAT'S
NOT WHAT I WANT AND THAT'S NOT
WHAT I WANT TO DO AND THAT IS
WHAT GIVES ME STRENGTH IS THAT
THE PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE IN
MY WORLD AREN'T INTERESTED IN
KIND OF, LIKE, FRIVOLOUS STUFF,
AND WE CARE ABOUT THE WORLD.
>> Rosemary: AS A FEMALE
COMEDIENNE GROWING UP, DID YOU
EVER ENCOUNTER THIS
INAPPROPRIATE SEXUAL BEHAVIOUR?
>> Interview: OH, MY GOD, OF
COURSE.
BUT NOT REALLY IN THE COMEDY
WORLD PER SE, MORE IN THE
RESTAURANT WORLD.
>> Rosemary: WELL, WE HAVE
SEEN THAT HAPPENING THERE TOO.
>> Interview: AND THE WORLD IN
GENERAL, IN THE WORLD AT LARGE,
100%, OF COURSE.
I DON'T KNOW, I COULDN'T NAME A
SINGLE WOMAN WHO I HAVE EVER
SPOKEN TO WHO HASN'T ENCOUNTERED
IT IN HER LIFE.
>> EACH COMMUNITY HAS TO KICK
OUT THEIR OWN CREEPS AND THAT
APPLIES WHETHER YOU'RE IN
POLITICS, ENTERTAINMENT OR
WHATEVER THE F--- YOU CALL HIS
PROFESSION.
IT'S HARD.
>> Rosemary: SO WHEN YOU'RE
OUT THERE SLAMMING PEOPLE AND
EVEN SOME PEOPLE THAT YOU KNOW,
AND COMEDIANS, LUCY K, WHAT ARE
YOU TRYING TO TELL AUDIENCES?
>> Interview: IT'S COMPLICATED
IF YOU ADMIRE A PERSON GREATLY
TO SPEAK ABOUT THEM BUT IF IT'S
WHAT IS HAPPENING AND IT'S
CURRENT AND IT MAKES SENSE TO
TALK ABOUT, THEN WE HAVE AN
OBLIGATION TO DO THAT.
>> Rosemary: THAT SURE SOUNDS
LIKE JOURNALISM IN SOME WAYS.
>> Interview: OH, WEIRD.
>> Rosemary: SORRY!
>> Interview: WELL, A LOT OF
PEOPLE HERE ARE JOURNALISTS OR
COME FROM JOURNALISM BACKGROUND
AND I THINK THAT WE ARE ALL HERE
TOGETHER BECAUSE WE ARE OBSESSED
WITH THE NEWS AND SIMILARLY
OBSESSED WITH COMEDY.
OUR TWO WORLDS ARE CONVERGING
NICELY.
>> NOW, LISTEN, AS MUCH AS I
MIGHT LOVE POKING FUN AT THE
MEDIA AND AS MUCH AS YOU ALL
KIND OF DESERVE IT SOMETIMES I
KNOW THAT YOUR JOB HAS NEVER
BEEN HARDER.
POTUS HAS CONVINCED 88% OF HIS
FANS THAT YOU'RE AN ENEMY OF THE
PEOPLE.
YOU BASICALLY GET PAID TO STAND
IN A CAGE WHILE A GERIATRIC
ORANGUTAN AND HIS GANG SCREAM AT
YOU.
IT'S LIKE A REVERSE ZOO.
[laughter]
BUT YOU CARRY ON AND YOU EXPOSE
INJUSTICE AGAINST THE WEAK AND
YOU CONTINUE TO FACT-CHECK THE
PRESIDENT AS IF HE MIGHT SOMEDAY
GET EMBARRASSED.
>> Rosemary: HOW DO YOU THINK
THAT YOUR JOB HAS CHANGED SINCE
DONALD TRUMP?
>> Interview: I DON'T THINK
THAT MY JOB HAS CHANGED AND I
THINK THAT WE WOULD BE DOING THE
SAME BASIC JOB IF HILLARY
CLINTON WAS PRESIDENT, I GUESS I
DON'T ACTUALLY THINK THAT SHE IS
THE MESSIAH.
SHE WOULD HAVE BEEN AN IMPERFECT
LEADER AS WELL IN A DIFFERENT
WAY.
CERTAINLY, I THINK THAT THE
WORLD WOULD BE A MUCH MORE
STABLE PLACE.
SO PERHAPS THERE WOULD BE WEEKS
WHERE WE WOULD THINK, MY
GOODNESS, WHAT COULD WE EVEN
POSSIBLY -- WHAT STORIES COULD
WE POSSIBLY TELL THIS WEEK, NOT
MUCH IS HAPPENING.
OH, LOOK AT HER -- LOOK AT HER
BORING STABLE LEADERSHIP.
[laughter]
WHERE IS THE COMEDY?
IT WOULD BE NICE TO STRUGGLE FOR
A STORY TO TELL FOR ONCE BUT
THAT'S NOT -- ANYWAY -- THAT'S
THE WORLD WE WANTED.
>> Rosemary: I THINK THAT YOU
HAVE BEEN CALLED THE RESISTANCE
MOVEMENT IN THE U.S.
YOU THINK THAT IS -- THAT'S
PROBABLY NOT SOMETHING THAT YOU
WOULD CONSCIOUSLY DO --
>> Interview: IT'S NOT
SOMETHING THAT I WOULD LIKE --
IF PEOPLE IN THE WORLD WANT TO
SAY THAT, THAT'S FINE.
I WOULDN'T SAY THAT ABOUT SORT
OF MYSELF.
I FEEL THAT IS, LIKE, THAT'S A
PRETTY HEAVY YOKE TO WEAR AROUND
YOUR NECK WHEN YOU'RE TRYING TO
MAKE A SHOW THAT IS FUNNY WITH
ALREADY CHALLENGING MATERIAL.
>> Rosemary: BUT WHEN YOU --
>> Interview: I THINK THAT
HONESTLY WE'RE NOT SO
SELF-CONSCIOUS ABOUT IT, WE'RE
JUST TRYING TO RESPOND
AUTHENTICALLY TO THE THINGS THAT
ARE REALLY BOTHERING US.
>> THIS IS WHAT HAPPENED SIX
MINUTES IN.
>> President Donald Trump: HE
REFERRED TO MY HANDS AND IF THAT
IS SMALL SOMETHING ELSE MUST BE
SMALL.
I GUARANTEE YOU THERE'S NO
PROBLEM.
I GUARANTEE YOU.
>> I'M SORRY, SO SORRY.
[laughter]
I MEAN, LET ME WIPE THE VOMIT
OFF THE CAMERA.
[Applause]
[laughter]
OH, MY GOD.
>> Rosemary: DO YOU EVER
GRAPPLE WITH SORT OF THE OFFICE,
YOU KNOW, BECAUSE I WOULD
IMAGINE THAT YOU STILL WANT TO
RESPECT THE OVAL OFFICE,
DEMOCRACY, ALL OF THOSE THINGS
AND I WONDER IF SOMETIMES YOU
SAY, AH, I SHOULDN'T SAY THIS
ABOUT THIS GUY, HE DID GET DULY
ELECTED.
>> Interview: WELL, I USED TO
FEEL THAT WAY BUT I ACTUALLY
THINK THAT THE OVAL OFFICE NEEDS
TO WORK A LITTLE HARDER FOR MY
RESPECT ACTUALLY.
I DON'T AUTOMATICALLY GIVE IT
OVER ANYMORE.
I HONESTLY FEEL THAT HE'S BEEN
SUCH A DISGRACE TO THE OFFICE
THAT I ACTUALLY -- I HAVE NO --
I HAVE NO RETICENCE WHATSOEVER
TO SPEAK TRUTHFULLY ABOUT IT AND
THAT'S FINE FOR ME.
I MEAN, THE LAST TIME I CHECKED
WE HAD FREE SPEECH HERE SO WE'LL
SEE, WE'LL SEE HOW THAT PANS
OUT, BUT AS LONG AS WE HAVE IT
I'LL FEEL VERY FREE TO SAY THE
THINGS THAT I FEEL I NEED TO
SAY.
>> Rosemary: I WANT TO PLAY
THIS VIDEO FOR YOU FROM YUCK
YUCK IN TORONTO AND THERE'S A
COUPLE YOUNG COMEDIANS AND THEY
HAD A SIMILAR QUESTION FOR YOU.
>> Interview: FOR ME?
>> Rosemary: YEAH, FOR YOU.
>> Interview: HOW NEAT.
OH, MY GOD.
>> Rosemary: LET ME PLAY A
LITTLE BIT.
>> NEXT UP IS THE BEAUTIFUL AND
FUNNY HANNAH LAWRENCE.
[Applause]
>> MY MATERIAL DOES TEND TO BE
ON THE DARKER SIDE FOR SURE I'D
SAY.
DEFINITELY DIRTIER TOO.
AND I FEEL AS A WOMAN TOO TRYING
TO TALK LIKE THAT, IT COMES OFF
VERY BRASH SOMETIMES.
I CALL MY TITS MOM AND DAD
BECAUSE THEY KEEP GROWING
FURTHER AND FURTHER APART.
I HAD SO MANY INSTANCES OF
SEXISM.
THERE WAS ONE INSTANCE IN
PARTICULAR THAT I WAS
FOLLOWED INTO A BATHROOM AND HE
CORNERED ME IN A BATHROOM STALL
AND IT WAS JUST TERRIFYING.
IT MAKES YOU -- FOR ME IT MAKES
ME DOUBT MYSELF A LOT OF THE
TIME AND MAKES ME RETHINK WHY I
AM DOING THIS.
AND IS IT ALWAYS GOING TO BE
THIS BAD KIND OF THING?
>> YOUR NEXT COMEDIAN, I LOVE
HER SO MUCH, ONE OF MY REALLY
GOOD FRIENDS, GUYS, JULIANA
RODRIGUEZ.
[Applause]
>> A LOT OF MY COMEDY IS BASED
ON PERSONAL EXPERIENCE,
SPECIFICALLY SOME WOMEN'S
ISSUES.
BUT NO 20-SOMETHING GUY HAS EVER
GONE TO A NIGHTCLUB AND HOPING
TO FIND A STAND-UP COMEDIAN,
RIGHT?
WHEN HAS THAT BEEN A THING?
A GUY WALKS IN THERE, YOU KNOW
WHAT, FORGET ABOUT THE GIRLS
DANCING ON TABLES, WHERE IS THE
GIRL THAT IS SO SARCASTIC THAT I
CAN'T TELL IF SHE'S ANGRY.
HI, SAMANTHA BEE.
MY QUESTION TO YOU WOULD BE,
HOW DO YOU STAY TRUE TO YOUR
VOICE IN A WORLD THAT IS ALWAYS
TRYING TO GET YOU TO CHANGE?
I KNOW THAT PERSONALLY I HAVE
HAD BOOKERS AND CLUB OWNERS TRY
TO GET ME TO CHANGE MY STYLE TO
FIT THEIR CLUBS.
HAVE YOU EVER CHANGED YOUR VOICE
TO ACCOMMODATE SOMEONE ELSE?
OR HAVE YOU ALWAYS REMAINED TRUE
TO YOURSELF?
AND, ALSO, HOW DO YOU REMAIN
TRUE TO YOURSELF IN SUCH A
DEMANDING WORLD?
AND I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR
BEING SO COOL AND SUCH A GREAT
ROLE MODEL FOR EVERYONE.
I THINK THAT'S ALL THAT I COULD
SAY.
>> Interview: CAN YOU SEND ME
THIS VIDEO?
IT'S BEAUTIFUL.
>> Rosemary: OF COURSE, OF
COURSE.
WHAT WOULD YOU SAY TO THOSE
GALS?
BECAUSE THAT MUST BRING BACK SO
MANY MEMORIES FOR YOU TOO.
>> Interview: DEFINITELY.
WELL, YOU KNOW,
WHEN YOU'RE A PERFORMER YOU GO
OFF AND YOU AUDITION FOR THINGS
AND YOU END UP KIND OF DOING ALL
OF THESE PLEASING THINGS AND
PEOPLE WANT TO YOU WEAR LIKE
BLUE TOP BECAUSE IT MAKES YOUR
EYES SPARKLE AND YOU HAVE TO
KIND OF DO THOSE THINGS FOR
MONEY.
BUT WHEN YOU'RE DOING THE THING
THAT IS YOUR OWN, THAT IS YOUR
OWN THING, THAT IS YOUR ART, YOU
CANNOT GIVE US A SINGLE SHIT
WHAT ANYBODY ELSE SAYS ABOUT
YOUR VOICE.
YOU JUST CAN'T.
BECAUSE THE ONE THING THAT THEY
CANNOT TAKE AWAY FROM YOU IS
YOUR TALENT.
THAT'S WHAT YOU -- THAT'S YOUR
THING.
IT'S THE THING THAT YOU DO.
AND NO ONE IS ALLOWED TO ALTER
THAT.
THAT'S THE THING THAT YOU DO FOR
FREE, THAT'S THE THING THAT
YOU'VE STOOD ON A DIRTY STAGE TO
DO, THAT'S THE THING THAT IS
YOURS, AND YOU HAVE TO, LIKE,
NURTURE THAT AGAINST ALL ODDS.
IT'S REALLY HARD TO DO.
FOR SURE, IT'S REALLY HARD TO
DO, TO BE PROTECTIVE OF THAT
LITTLE THING.
I THINK THOSE GIRLS ARE SO
GREAT.
THAT'S AWESOME.
>> Rosemary: THEY THINK THAT
YOU'RE AWESOME TOO.
>> Interview: THE FEELING IS
VERY MUTUAL.
>> Rosemary: GOOD, I'LL LEAVE
IT THERE.
THANK YOU, THANK YOU VERY MUCH,
AND THANK YOU FOR SHARING ALL OF
THAT WITH US.
[Applause]
>> TALK TO EVERY WOMAN THAT YOU
WORK WITH, LIKE SHE HAS "THE NEW
YORK TIMES" ON SPEED DIAL.
[laughter]
WELL, I GUESS THAT IT TAKES TIME
TO TAKE CARE OF BUSINESS.
OKAY, TALK TO EVERY WOMAN LIKE
SHE HAS ME ON SPEED DIAL.
[Cheers and Applause]
MY SHOW IS ONLY ONCE A WEEK,
I'VE GOT SOME FREE TIME.
[Applause]
>> Rosemary: SAMANTHA BEE IS
ONE OF THE SEVERAL LATE-NIGHT
HOSTS RIGHT NOW CAMPAIGNING FOR
THE PRESIDENT'S SO-CALLED FAKE
NEWS AWARDS.
DONALD TRUMP TWEETED LAST WEEK
THAT HE'D ANNOUNCE THE MOST
DISHONEST AND CORRUPT MEDIA
AWARDS OF THE YEAR AT 5:00
TODAY.
>> I CAN'T TAKE MY EYES OFF ANY
PART OF YOUR PRESIDENCY.
IT'S LIKE WATCHING A SNAKE
SWALLOW DEMOCRACY.
>> Rosemary: LATE-SHOW HOST
STEPHEN COLBERT LAUNCHED A
CAMPAIGN ON SOCIAL MEDIA AND THE
MIDDLE OF TIMES SQUARE WITH A
BILLBOARD "FOR YOUR
CONSIDERATION" ADS.
>> BECAUSE NOTHING GIVES YOU
MORE CREDIBILITY THAN DONALD
TRUMP CALLING YOU A LIAR.
AND I, OF COURSE, DON'T WANT TO
GET SNUBBED.
>> Rosemary: TREVOR NOAH MADE
A CASE IN A FULL-PAGE AD IN "THE
NEW YORK TIMES."
JIMMY KIMMEL WORKED IT INTO HIS
MONOLOGUE.
>> THE STUPID PEOPLE'S CHOICE
AWARD SAYS WHAT THEY'RE CALLING
IT.
>> Rosemary: TRUMP'S
SO-CALLED AWARD IS NOW DELAYED
TO NEXT WEEK.
WITH THE PRESIDENT
TWEETING "THE INTEREST IN, AND
THE IMPORTANCE OF, THESE AWARDS
IS FAR GREATER THAN ANYONE COULD
HAVE ANTICIPATED."
>> Ian: LET'S FOCUS ON ANOTHER
WORLD LEADER NOW AND THERE'S
TIMES WHEN EVERY
POLITICIAN AVOIDS ANSWERING
QUESTIONS AND SOME ELEVATE IT TO
AN ART FORM BUT THAILAND'S PRIME
MINISTER TOOK IT TO A WHOLE NEW
LEVEL TODAY.
>> [speaking foreign
language].
>> Ian: THERE HE IS BRINGING OUT
A LIFE-SIZED CARDBOARD CUTOUT OF
HIMSELF AND TELLING REPORTERS TO
QUIZ IT INSTEAD OF HIM.
YOU KNOW THERE WAS A TIME THAT
WE WOULD SEE THAT AND WE WOULD
SAY THAT COULD NEVER HAPPEN IN
NORTH AMERICA.
>> Rosemary: I AM READING THE
DONALD TRUMP BOOK RIGHT NOW SO I
DON'T SAY THAT ANYMORE.
>> Ian: NO KIDDING.
>> Andrew: IT'S INTERESTING, I
WAS LOOKING AT THE WORLD PRESS
FREEDOM INDEX AND THIS IS A
SERIOUS ISSUE TOO.
THAILAND RANKS 142 WHICH PUTS IT
RIGHT AROUND PAKISTAN
AND RUSSIA, SO A SERIOUS SIDE
TO, YOU KNOW, WHAT ON THE
SURFACE LOOKS LIKE A
LIGHTHEARTED ISSUE.
>> Ian: FOR SURE.
MORE TO COME AFTER THE BREAK.
>> Interview: $25 IS NOT A LOT
AND IT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO
BUT IT'S NOT EXACTLY LIKE -- YOU
ARE NOT GETTING BACK ALL OF THAT
MONEY
THAT YOU PAID IN THOSE YEARS.
>> Interview: I'D GO FOR IT
BECAUSE $25 FOR GROCERIES IS NOT
BAD BUT I HAVE NOT TAKEN THE
TIME TO FILL OUT THE
APPLICATION.
>> Interview: I'M HESITANT TO
FILL IT OUT BECAUSE I WOULD JUST
LIKE TO SEE
WHAT THE GENERAL CONSENSUS IS
FROM EXPERTS.
IT SEEMS TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE.
>> Ian: IF YOU BOUGHT BREAD AT
ANY LOBLAWS STORE BETWEEN 2002
AND 2015 YOU PROBABLY ARE
ELIGIBLE TO SIGN UP FOR THE
COMPANY'S NEW COMPENSATION
PROGRAM.
LOBLAWS IS OFFERING $25 GIFT
CARDS TO CUSTOMERS AFTER
ADMITTING ITS ROLE IN A BREAD
PRICE-FIXING SCHEME.
THE COMPETITION BUREAU IS ALSO
INVESTIGATING OTHER COMPANIES
AND A SLIGHT CATCH -- IF YOU
TAKE THE GIFT CARD YOU CAN STILL
JOIN THE CLASS-ACTION LAWSUIT
BUT THAT $25 MIGHT BE DEDUCTED
OFF YOUR POTENTIAL SETTLEMENT.
STILL THERE'S A GROWING SOCIAL
MEDIA CAMPAIGN URGING CANADIANS
TO ACCEPT THE PAYMENT AND TO
DONATE IT TO LOCAL CHARITIES OR
FOOD BANKS.
>>> WELL, FOR GENERATIONS THE
NEIGHBOURHOOD PAPER ROUTE WAS A
CLASSIC FIRST JOB FOR A LOT OF
KIDS.
BUT WITH THE FUTURE OF PRINT
MEDIA UNCERTAIN, THOSE
OPPORTUNITIES ARE DISAPPEARING.
WELL, THAT IS THE SOUND THAT
WON'T BE HEARD IN MANY
COMMUNITIES, POST MEDIA AND THE
TORSTAR'S RECENT
COST-CUTTING DEAL LED TO THE
SHUTDOWN OF DOZENS OF COMMUNITY
NEWSPAPERS.
THE CBC'S JUDY TRINH WAS WITH A
12-YEAR-OLD AS HE WORKED HIS
PAPER ROUTE FOR THE LAST TIME.
>> Interview: IT'S MY FIRST
JOB AND IN GENERAL I THINK THAT
IT'S -- IT'S -- IT'S JUST BEEN
FUN.
>> Reporter: SEBASTIEN TUBB,
PULLING A GREEN WAGON FULL OF
NEWSPAPERS, HAS BEEN A REGULAR
SIGHT IN HIS NEIGHBORHOOD EACH
THURSDAY.
THE GRADE SEVEN STUDENT DELIVERS
200 EDITIONS OF THE PAPER
DOOR-TO-DOOR.
>> Interview: WELL, WHEN I GET
HOME I JUST USUALLY
GO IN THE GARAGE AND SLAM
EVERYTHING IN MY WAGON AND JUST
DRAG IT AROUND.
>> Reporter: HIS ROUTE TAKES
HIM TWO HOURS AND PAYS SEBASTIEN
$11 A WEEK, MONEY HE USED TO BUY
A SECONDHAND APPLE COMPUTER BUT
THE PAYCHEQUES STOP IN THREE
DAYS.
>> Interview: THE BIG
COMPANIES ARE TRYING TO GET RID
OF ALL OF THE SMALLER COMPANIES
AND IT'S NOT THAT SURPRISING.
>> Reporter: 37 COMMUNITY
NEWSPAPERS, MOST IN ONTARIO,
HAVE RECENTLY FOLDED, FOLLOWING
A COST-CUTTING DEAL MADE BY
TORSTAR AND POST MEDIA.
HERE IN OTTAWA ABOUT 1,000 PAPER
CARRIERS HAVE BEEN THROWN OUT OF
WORK.
MOST OF THEM ARE UNDER THE AGE
OF 16.
BUT NOT ALL.
>> Interview: THE YOUNG PEOPLE
THAT DO IT, YOU KNOW, SOME OF
THEM THAT'S HOW THEY PAY FOR
SCHOOL SPORTS AND IT'S A
TOURNAMENT THEY WANT TO GO TO.
I HAVE SENIORS WHO THEY BARELY
GET THROUGH THE MONTH AND THAT
IS THE EXTRA MONEY THEY MAKE
THAT GETS THEM THROUGH FROM ONE
CHEQUE TO THE NEXT.
>> EXTRA, EXTRA!
>> Reporter: A PIECE OF
HISTORY IS DISAPPEARING TOO.
PAPER BOYS HAVE BEEN AROUND
SINCE THE 1850s AND DELIVERING
THE PAPER WAS A FIRST JOB FOR
COUNTLESS CANADIANS.
INCLUDING SEBASTIEN'S DAD.
NEIL TUBB IS DISAPPOINTED THAT
HIS SON LOST HIS JOB AND IT'S
NOT ABOUT THE MONEY.
>> Interview: I THINK IT
TAUGHT HIM SELF-DISCIPLINE
BECAUSE HE COMES HOME AND NO
MATTER THE WEATHER ON THOSE DAYS
HE REALLY HAS TO GET IT DONE.
WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO IT FOR HIM
HIM.
>> Reporter: AS FOR THE FUTURE
SEBASTIEN IS LOOKING FOR A NEXT
JOB, WONDERING WHO WANTS TO HIRE
A 12-YEAR-OLD?
JUDY TRINH, CBC NEWS, OTTAWA.
(*)
>> Andrew: WELL, STILL
AHEAD... A CANADIAN PROFESSOR
WHOSE BOOK ABOUT THE SECOND
WORLD WAR IS INCHING HIS WAY UP
THE BESTSELLER LIST BECAUSE OF
AN ACCIDENTAL CONNECTION TO
DONALD TRUMP.
>> Interview: WHEN I GOT UP
THIS MORNING AND I OPENED UP MY
EMAIL I HAD REQUESTS FROM KOREA,
FROM DENMARK, FROM BERLIN AND
FROM DÜSSELDORF AND "NEWSWEEK"
HAS BEEN IN TOUCH AND PAPERS
(*)
(*)
>> Andrew: ON "THE NATIONAL"
TONIGHT, SOME DRAMATIC VIDEO OUT
OF LONDON, ENGLAND.
THAT'S A PAINT FACTORY IN THE
NORTHERN PART OF THE CITY
AND NOW IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE
ANYONE WAS HURT.
EVERYBODY INSIDE APPARENTLY MADE
IT OUT OF TIME.
AND WHILE THE FIREFIGHTERS HAVE
GOTTEN THE SITUATION UNDER
CONTROL, THE CAUSE IS STILL AN
OPEN QUESTION.
>>> AND PRINCESS CHARLOTTE
STARTED NURSERY SCHOOL TODAY AND
AS YOU CAN TELL BY THESE
PICTURES TAKEN BY HER MOTHER,
KATE,
SHE SEEMED PRETTY HAPPY ABOUT
IT.
THE 2-YEAR-OLD IS ATTENDING
WILCOX NURSERY IN LONDON.
>>> AND A SURPRISE SHAKEUP IN
WOMEN'S SOCCER.
THE COACH HAS LEFT IN ORDER TO
RUN THE MEN'S TEAM.
JOHN HERDMAN IS WIDELY CREDITED
WITH TRANSFORMING THE WOMEN'S
TEAM AND LEADING THEM TO WIN
BACK-TO-BACK BRONZE MEDALS AND
THE PLAYERS ON THE CANADIAN
WOMEN'S TEAM DID NOT HIDE SHOCK
AT THE NEWS.
CHRISTINE SINCLAIR WROTE
"SPEECHLESS RIGHT NOW."
FROM KARINA LeBLANC,
"PROCESSING THIS RIGHT NOW YET
AND DIANA MATHESON TWEETED "JUST
SAD ABOUT THIS ONE.
WISHING JOHN NOTHING BUT THE
BEST IN HIS NEXT CHALLENGE BUT
STILL, JUST SAD."
>>> WE HAVE TALKED A LOT ABOUT
THE BOOK "FIRE AND FURY," THE
EXPOSE DETAILING
DONALD TRUMP'S RISE TO POWER AND
EXPLODED TO THE TOP OF THE
BESTSELLER LIST AFTER TRUMP
HIMSELF DENOUNCED THE BOOK AND
JUST TO BE CLEAR, I'M TALKING
ABOUT THE BOOK WRITTEN BY NEW
YORK-BASED JOURNALIST MICHAEL
WOLFF, BECAUSE YOU ARE ABOUT TO
MEET THE UNIVERSITY OF TORONTO
PROF RANDALL HANSEN, THE AUTHOR
OF A DIFFERENT "FIRE AND FURY."
HIS STORY IS OUR "MOMENT OF THE
DAY."
>> Interview: SO I'VE HAD A
COUPLE OF ANGRY TWEETS FROM
TRUMP SUPPORTERS TO THE EFFECT
THAT THEY BOUGHT THE WRONG BOOK.
(*)
THE BOOK CAME OUT ON FRIDAY, OF
COURSE, AND I WAS IN D.C. AT THE
TIME AND THE WHOLE CITY WAS
EXPLODING WITH DISCUSSION AND I
HEARD "FIRE AND FURY" LEFT,
RIGHT AND CENTRE AND I WOULD
SORT OF PERK UP AND GRADUALLY
GOT USED TO THIS AND REALIZED
THAT THIS HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH
ME.
I MENTIONED IT TO A COUPLE OF
FRIENDS THIS HAD HAPPENED AND WE
HAD A CHUCKLE AND I THOUGHT VERY
LITTLE OF IT.
I WENT OUT FOR DINNER AND HAD A
COUPLE OF GLASSES OF WINE AND I
WAS BACK AT THE HOTEL AND I
DECIDED TO CHECK MY AMAZON,
CHECK OUT AMAZON'S WEBSITE, AND
I SAW THAT THE SALES OF MY BOOK,
WHICH HAD BEEN LANGUISHING, THE
BOOK WAS OUT 10 YEARS AGO, SO
SALES WERE VERY, VERY LOW AND
THEY HAD SUDDENLY TAKEN OFF AND
IT WAS IN THREE BESTSELLER LISTS
ON AMAZON.
IT'S IRONIC THAT I, I'M A GREAT
CRITIC OF DONALD TRUMP AND I
SHOULD BENEFIT FROM THIS.
>> Reporter: HAVE YOU BOUGHT
THE OTHER "FIRE AND FURY" --
>> Interview: I ORDERED IT BUT
IT HASN'T ARRIVED YET.
>> Andrew: SO, GUYS, I HAVE
RESEARCHED THIS AND "FIRE AND
FURY," THE ALLIED BOMBING OF
GERMANY, IS ALL ABOUT THE SECOND
WORLD WAR AND HAS NOTHING DO
WITH DONALD TRUMP.
>> Ian: BUT YOU WONDER WHAT IS
GOING TO HAPPEN OR WHAT MIGHT
HAPPEN WHEN PEOPLE FEEL THEY
HAVE THE WRONG BOOK AND RETURN
IT AND WHETHER IT WILL WORK ITS
WAY DOWN THE BESTSELLER CHART.
>> Rosemary: I HAVE
INTERVIEWED RANDAL BEFORE, AND I
GUESS THAT IT'S A VERY SERIOUS
BOOK AND NOT ABOUT A GUY EATING
CHEESEBURGERS IN HIS BATHROBE.
>> Andrew: I GUESS THAT NOW,
YOU KNOW, OFF TO THE SIDE AFTER
I READ THE -- I GUESS THE MORE
RECENT "FIRE AND FURY" AND
WHETHER I'LL READ THE PREQUEL,
DO WE CALL IT THAT --
[laughter]
>> Rosemary: WHAT?
>> Andrew: WELL, THAT DOES IT
FOR US AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR
WATCHING, THAT'S "THE NATIONAL"
FOR JANUARY 8TH.
GOODNIGHT.
>> Ian: GOODNIGHT.
>> Rosemary: GOODNIGHT.
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