Will drinking coffee give you cancer?
According to the state of California it might.
They might be putting warning labels on coffee that it contains a cancer causing chemical
what's your reaction to that?
Uh, I mean it's pretty crazy, I mean what's that trope?
Nowadays every says everything will give you cancer.
You can't treat adult people like they're, I don't know, babies.
I appreciate a state government that cares about it's people,
I love California, I'm very happy that this is my adopted state,
but that's ridiculous.
California Proposition 65 is an extensive regulation
continuously changing to meet the demands of consumer safety.
Thanks to Prop 65 enacted in 1986 businesses are required to post a warning
about the presence of any substance known by the state's Environmental Hazard Office
to cause cancer or reproductive toxicity.
The list is updated yearly and it now contains more than 800 substances
almost everywhere you look in California there's a Prop 65 warning.
Apartment buildings, restaurants, even Disneyland.
What are some of the places where you've seen those?
Restaurants.
Yeah restaurants or like different stores that might be microwave food.
See 'em like at the Echo Park Pool where I go swimming.
When I see one of those signs it doesn't make me thing twice about the establishment
because I see them everywhere.
So I recognize that it's kind of a blanket attempt to protect people
perhaps from themselves.
And a recent ruling from a Los Angeles judge
orders major coffee chains like Starbucks and Pete's
to post explicit warnings that chemicals in coffee might cause cancer.
We stationed ourselves near a coffee shop in Los Angeles
and asked people how far they think labeling should go.
I'm glad they care, I'm still gonna be slamming cold brew pretty regularly
and that may be what ends me but I'll go very alert.
Does it give cancer?
I'm about to get some right now.
Acrylamide and appears on California's list
because studies show that lab rats are more likely to develop cancer
when administered extremely high doses of the chemical.
A human being would need to drink approximately 35 thousand cups of coffee
or a mere 16 thousand cups of instant coffee a day for life
to reach those Acrylamide levels.
I'm not gonna drink that much, just a cup.
And the World Health Organization has said there's inadequate evidence
that coffee drinking increases cancer risk.
If it makes people feel better
and if it makes some representative feel like they did their job that's good for them,
but I think most of us are going to continue drinking a lot of coffee.
It's gonna get to where there's going to have to be signs on the air, air causes cancer.
It's like, any-
It does though.
I know that's what I'm saying!
Some other chemicals on the list include Formaldehyde and Arsenic
the latter of which occurs naturally in apples.
Should apples be labeled as containing Arsenic?
I mean you're not gonna be able to label an apple tree,
I mean the tree comes from the ground, comes from the soil it's probably that.
In the grocery store?
In the grocery store, yeah, like an individual label I don't know
but on like a bag of apples, sure.
Apples don't actually have to be labelled because the chemical occurs naturally
rather than as a byproduct of human intervention, an exception in the law.
Is there any danger in like over warning,
if people do become numb to things that aren't necessarily serious harms
and they ignore, like, the real warning.
Yeah I guess I could see your point there
because I see warnings all the time I never really pay attention to them.
It goes in here and out there, I mean so its, I don't take it serious at all.
Besides the possibility of numbing citizens to real dangers
over warning brings other costs
such as those to business owners who are regularly sued for failing to post adequate signage.
One trade association estimates that the typical non compliance lawsuit settlement
to be 65,000 dollars per item.
What about the costs that it imposes on the businesses
because they would have to actually test, in a lab their food, a little deli counter
do you worry about, you know, maybe that effecting the price
for people who need access to fresh food?
I didn't think about that but I don't know.
You think it's worth it, though?
Yeah I think it's worth it.
And cancer warnings aren't the only labels that are required in California.
The state also mandates calorie counts in fast food restaurants.
This idea proved much more popular than the people we spoke with.
Nutritional labeling makes sense because it's just telling me about content
it's not making a moral judgement for me.
I absolutely enjoy it because I will instantly look at the caloric intake
because that's become very educational.
I guess it's good for some people,
I obviously don't count too many calories but-
But a recent report on nutritional labeling from the USDA
concludes that the best designed studies show that calorie labels
do not reduce total calories ordered at restaurants.
We are educated to the point now that we know that everything is an issue
you know everything can cause something or do something to us.
I mean there is a problem with like eating disorders and stuff like that
and I think that that kind of labeling just makes that worse.
The California Department of Health has proposed rules to require calorie counts
anywhere that serves food
including deli counters and grocery stores.
Does that worry you at all that that puts a burden on the smaller businesses
to have to comply with that kind of labeling?
No it's just finding managers and people who are capable and willing to take part in this.
If I want to go someplace I'm gonna go someplace,
warnings are a good thing but if I want to go to the haunted mansion I'm going to go
and I'm gonna get coffee while I'm there.
An increasingly popular idea is the mandatory labeling of genetically modified foods.
Do you know if this has GMOs in it?
You have to scan that new code on the back.
Really?
A ballot proposition requiring GMO labeling failed by only three percentage points in California
and other states like Connecticut, Vermont and Maine
have actually passed GMO labeling laws.
Scientists have produced no evidence that GMO foods cause harm to humans.
I think GMO labeling is helpful.
Again, people can have informed consent, they can decide what they want to do.
So how much labeling is too much labeling?
The state of California seems right on track to test that question.
If we're a laboratory state and other states can look to us and see what worked and what didn't
that's fine by me, it's at least an interesting place to live.
I don't always love what happens here but I'm never bored.
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