FLETCHER: GOOD EVENING AND
WELCOME TO THE WDSU HOTSEAT.
I AM TRAVERS MACKEL.
LAST WEEK, MAYOR MITCH LANDRIEU
AND GOVERNOR JOHN BEL EDWARDS
UNVEILED A $40 MILLION CRIME
REDUCTION PLANS.
IT OUTLINES PLENTY OF THINGS
INCLUDING PUTTING CAMERAS ON
BOURBON STREET, HAVING A
CENTRALIZED COMMAND CENTER FOR
THOSE CAMERAS AND IDENTIFYING 20
HOTSPOTS AROUND THE THE WHERE
THEY WILL PUT LICENSE PLATES
READERS AND OTHER THINGS.
SOMEONE WHO DID NOT JUST EIGHT
IN THAT DISCUSSION WAS LEON
CANNIZZARO, NEW ORLEANS DISTRICT
ATTORNEY.
THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.
IT IS INTERESTING THAT YOU WERE
ABSENT AT THAT MEETING
CONSIDERING YOU ARE THE PERSON
WHO PROSECUTES PEOPLE FOR ANY
CRIME.
>> IT WOULD SEEM AS THOUGH THE
LAW ENFORCEMENT COMPONENT OF
THIS $40 MILLION IS GOING TO BE
GEARED TOWARDS MAKING ARREST,
INVESTIGATING CASES AND THOSE
CASES ARE GOING TO BE BROUGHT TO
MY OFFICE.
AS YOU WELL KNOW, MY OFFICE
SUFFERED A $600,000 CUT BY THE
CITY, A 2% CUT OF OUR CITY
BUDGET AND -- 10 PERCENT CUT OF
OUR CITY BUDGET AND WE WOULD
HAVE LIKED THAT MONEY TO BE
GIVEN TO US SO WE CAN RESUME
SOME OF THE THINGS WE WERE DOING
PRIOR TO THE TAKING AWAY OF
THESE FUNDS.
TRAVERS: YOU HAVE BEEN CRITICAL
OF THE ADMINISTRATION FOR
SLASHING YOUR BUDGET.
THIS $40 MILLION, ABOUT
20-23,000,000 COMES FROM THE
CONVENTION CENTER AND 20 MILLION
COMES FROM THE CITY.
DOES IT BUG YOU?
OR ARE YOU ASKING QUESTIONS
ABOUT HOW TO DEFINE 50 MILLION
FOR THIS OR CUT ME 600,000?
>> I'M IN FAVOR OF EVERYTHING WE
DO TO HELP FIGHT CRIME IN THE
CITY OF NEW ORLEANS.
THE PUTTING OF MORE BOOTS ON THE
STREET SO TO SPEAK, WE NEED A
GREATER PRESENCE IN NOT ONLY IN
THE FRENCH QUARTER BUT
THROUGHOUT THE CITY OF NEW
ORLEANS.
THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS
SHORTHANDED RIGHT NOW.
ANYTHING THAT WE DO TO INCREASE
THE LAW ENFORCEMENT EFFORT IS
GREATLY APPRECIATED AND WELCOME.
BUT THEY HAVE TO TAKE INTO
ACCOUNT THAT THE DISTRICT
ATTORNEY IS THE PART OF THE
LAW-ENFORCEMENT EFFORT.
IT DOES US NO GOOD TO GO OUT AND
THE REST OF SOMEONE FOR A CRIME
OF VIOLENCE IF WE ARE NOT IN A
POSITION TO SUBSEQUENTLY
PROSECUTE THAT PERSON, PROSECUTE
HIM EFFECTIVELY SUCH A THAT HE
IS NOT ABLE TO GO OUT AND HURT
ANYONE ELSE IN THE FUTURE.
TRAVERS: IS AT THIS A POLITICAL
BATTLE THAT WE ARE WITNESSING?
THERE WAS A LONG TIME WHEN YOU
WERE AT THESE PRESS CONFERENCES
AND WERE LOCKSTEP IN WHAT WAS
GOING ON IN THE CITY OF NEW
ORLEANS.
NOT THAT YOU ARE NOT ANYMORE,
BUT YOU WERE NT INVITED TO THIS
PRESS CONFERENCE.
YOUR OFFICE HAS BEEN CRITICAL OF
THE ADMINISTRATION.
IF THIS A POLITICAL FIGHT
PLAYING OUT IN FRONT OF THE
PUBLIC?
>> I DON'T WANT TO BE INVOLVED
IN A POLITICAL FIGHT.
AS I SAID BEFORE THE
METROPOLITAN CRIME COMMISSION.
I THINK THERE IS AN ARGUMENT
THAT CAN BE MADE THAT CERTAIN
INDIVIDUALS IN OUR CITY
ADMINISTRATION ARE PUTTING
POLITICS ABOVE PUBLIC SAFETY.
WE HAVE WORKED VERY HARD IN OUR
OFFICE TO NOT ONLY WORK WITH THE
POLICE DEPARTMENT, TO GET A
BETTER PRODUCT IN THE COURT.
TO BE ABLE TO PURSUE THE VIOLENT
OFFENDERS SUCH THAT THEY ARE NOT
IN A POSITION TO HURT ANYONE IN
THE FUTURE.
AS A RESULT OF THE BUDGET CUTS
WE HAVE EXPERIENCED, THEY HAVE
HAMPERED OUR ABILITY TO HELP
INDIVIDUALS THAT WE PLACE IN THE
DIVERSION PROGRAM.
OUR NONVIOLENT FIRST AND SECOND
OFFENDERS THAT FIND THEMSELVES
IN THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM.
WE ARE NOT IN THE POSITION TO
AFFORD THEM AN OPPORTUNITY TO
STAY OUT OF THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE
SYSTEM.
THE DIVERSION OPPORTUNITY HAS
BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL.
THE CUTS HAVE GONE AFTER OUR
ABILITY TO GO AFTER THE VIOLENT
AND THE NONVIOLENT OFFENDER.
TRAVERS: YOU SAID DESPITE WHAT
YOU HEAR, THE SAFETY OF THE CITY
OF NEW ORLEANS IS DECLINING IN
THE CITY IN THE PAST YEAR AND
HAS GOTTEN WORSE.
THIS IS A RESULT OF THE CITY'S
ILL-CONCEIVED CRIMINAL JUSTICE
POLICIES.
YOU WENT ON TO SAY, THE BAD
POSITIONS OF POLITICIANS WILL
DESTROY THE CITY IF LEFT
UNCHECKED?
WAS THIS A SHOT AT THIS CRIME
PLAN OF THE MAYORS.
EVERYONE HOPES OF THE CRIME
REDUCTION STRATEGY WILL WORK BUT
SOME WOULD ARGUE THESE IDEAS ARE
NOT NEW IDEAS.
>> AS FAR AS MY OFFICE, WE ARE
NOT GOING TO GET THE DISTRICT
ATTORNEY THE FUNDING THAT HE IS
REQUESTING, IN FACT, WE ARE
GOING TO CUT HIS FUNDING BY
$600,000 BECAUSE, IN THE WORDS
OF ONE OF THEM, WE FIND HIM TO
BE A BAD ACTOR.
TRAVERS: MONEY SHOULD BE TAKEN
FROM THE BUDGET OF A BAD ACTOR
WAS SAID LAST YEAR OF THAT
COUNCIL MEETING.
>> BASICALLY WE ARE EXCEPTING
90% OF THE CASES THAT ARE
BROUGHT TO US.
I BELIEVE THAT IS WHAT I'M
SUPPOSED TO DO.
WHEN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT SENDS
ME A CASE, I'M SUPPOSED TO
EVALUATE THAT CASE AND DETERMINE
IF WE HAVE ENOUGH EVIDENCE TO GO
FORWARD IN COURT.
WE HAVE BEEN DOING THAT.
AS A RESULT OF THE CLOSE WORKING
RELATIONSHIP WE HAVE DEVELOPED
WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, THE
POLICE DEPARTMENT IS BRINGING TO
US BETTER CASES.
WE ARE COOPERATING WITH THEM AND
AS A RESULT WE SEE THAT WE ARE
IN A POSITION TO ACCEPT MORE
CASES.
THE SAFETY OF THE CITY OF NEW
ORLEANS IS DECLINING.
FOR THE FIRST 24 DAYS OF THIS
MONTH, WE HAVE EXPERIENCED OVER
50 SHOOTING.
WE HAVE ALSO EXPERIENCED 16
HOMICIDES AS OF THE FIRST 24
DAYS OF JANUARY DURING THIS
YEAR.
JANUARY OF 2016 WAS ALSO A BAD
MONTH FOR THE CITY OF NEW
ORLEANS, BUT THUS FAR IN 2017 WE
HAVE EXPERIENCED EVEN A GREATER
NUMBER OF VIOLENCE, A GREATER
AMOUNT OF VIOLENCE IN OUR CITY
REALLY HAVE LAST YEAR.
IF THIS PACE CONTINUES, WE ARE
LOOKING AT A NUMBER OF SHOOTINGS
TO BE IN EXCESS OF 700.
THAT TO ME IS UNACCEPTABLE.
TRAVERS: IS IT POLITICS, THEN?
MOST PEOPLE WATCHING IN THE CITY
ARE SAYING HEY, IF THE POLICE
ARE RESTING THEM, IT IS THE JOB
OF THE DA TO PROSECUTE THEM AND
ACCEPT CASES FROM THE POLICE
DEPARTMENT.
IN YOUR OPINION, THE FIELD THAT
PEOPLE ARE CRITICIZING YOU,
CUTTING THE BUDGET OR HOLDING
YOU -- HOLDING IT AGAINST YOU
BECAUSE YOU ARE EXCEPTING 70
CASES IN ORLEANS PARISH?
>> THAT IS WHAT WAS SAID IN ONE
OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS IN A
NEWSPAPER ACCOUNT.
BASICALLY WE DON'T LIKE THE
POLICY THAT HE ACCEPTS TOO MANY
CASES.
IF YOU LOOK BACK, THIS SORT OF
PROSECUTORIAL THEORIES IN THE
PAST WERE THE DAS OFFICE DIDN'T
ACCEPT AS MANY CASES, YOU LOOK
TO SOME OF MY PREDECESSORS.
IN THE YEAR 1994, THE DA OFFICE
ACCEPTED ONLY 50% OF THE CASES
WROUGHT BY THE POLICE DEPARTMENT
YET THE CITY EXPERIENCED OVER
400 MURDERS.
WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO
AGGRESSIVELY GO AFTER THE
VIOLENT OFFENDERS.
IF THE COUNCIL AND THERE IS A
PARTICULAR CASE THAT WE EXCEPTED
WHICH WE SHOULD NOT HAVE
EXCEPTED, BRING IT TO OUR
ATTENTION.
THE BIGGEST POINT IS, IF THEY
DON'T WANT US PROSECUTE CERTAIN
CASES, TELL THE POLICE
DEPARTMENT NOT TO ARREST THESE
PEOPLE FOR THESE TYPES OF CASES.
LET THEM GO.
WHEN A POLICE OFFICER MAKES AN
ARREST AND BRINGS THE CASE, I
THINK I AM DUTY-BOUND TO LOOK AT
THE CASE IN AN OBJECTIVE
FASHION.
THERE IS NO QUOTA SYSTEM OUT
THERE.
IT JUST WORKS OUT THAT WE HAVE
WORKED WITH THE POLICE
DEPARTMENT, THEY'RE DOING A
BETTER JOB OF BRINGING US CASES
AND I THINK IT SHOULD BE NOTED
AS A RESULT OF THAT WE ARE
GAINING A CONVICTION RATE OF 90%
IN THE COURT.
THE CASES WE ARE EXCEPTING OUR
BEING PROSECUTED FAVORABLY FOR
THE SAKE OF LOUISIANA.
I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHERE THEY
ARE COMING FROM.
TRAVERS: DOES THIS STEM FROM,
AND PEOPLE WHO FOLLOW THE
ONGOING FOR CRIMINAL JUSTICE IN
THE GOVERNMENT, THE GEL IS A BIG
CONTROVERSY IN THE CITY OF NEW
ORLEANS.
RECENTLY YOU SUPPORTED AN
EXPANSION OF THE GEL FOR VARIOUS
REASONS.
DO YOU THINK THAT IS THE ROOT OF
WHAT THIS POLITICAL FIGHT COULD
BE ABOUT?
>> I DID SUPPORT SHERIFF GUSMAN.
JUST RECENTLY THE SHERIFF SAID
THAT THE FACILITY OF 1438 BEDS
IN THE PARISH THE GEL WAS NOT
ENOUGH.
THE SHERIFF REQUESTED AN
INCREASE OF 200- 275 NEW BEDS IN
THE GEL FACILITY AND THE MAYOR
SAYS NO.
IT GOES TO THE FEDERAL MONITOR.
A FEDERAL COMPLIANCE DIRECTOR
HAS AN APPOINTED BY THE UNITED
STATES DISTRICT COURT JUDGE FOR
THE PURPOSE OF WORKING OUT
CERTAIN DETAILS WITH REGARD TO
THE GEL.
THE FEDERAL MONITOR HAS AGREED
WITH THE SHERIFF THAT THE GEL
TYPES OF FOUR TO 38 IS NOT THE
APPROPRIATE NUMBER AND YOU NEED
AT LEAST 300 MORE BAD TO TAKE
CARE OF THE INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE
COMING IN.
IT IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE AND THE
METROPOLITAN CRIME COMMISSION
HAS NOTED THIS, AS OF JANUARY
THE THIRD OF THIS YEAR, THE
MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE IN THE
PARISH JAIL OR IN THERE FOR
CRIMES OF VIOLENCE, MURDER,
RAPE, ARMED ROBBERY AND THERE
ARE A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF
OTHER INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE IN THE
GEL FOR CHARGES LIKE ARTILLERY
-- BURGALRY, DISTRIBUTION OF
NARCOTICS.
THE JILL IS NOT BEING USED TO
HOUSE PEOPLE CHARGED WITH
POSSESSION OF MARIJUANA.
IN A RECENT STUDY, THEY FOUND
THAT AS OF JANUARY 3, THERE WERE
ONLY TWO PEOPLE IN THE PARISH
JAIL WHO WERE THERE FOR
POSSESSING MARIJUANA.
THE GEL IS BEING USED TO HOUSE
THE DANGEROUS PEOPLE, TO KEEP
THEM OFF THE STREETS AND THAT IS
THE PURPOSE OF THE GEL.
TRAVERS: THIS IS A STRONG
STATEMENT TO COME BACK TO, THE
BEST DECISIONS OF POLITICIANS,
IF LEFT UNCHECKED, WILL DESTROY
THE CITY.
ISN'T THIS CRIME PLAN GOING TO
WORK?
-- IS THIS CRIME PLAN GOING TO
WORK?
CAN IT WORK WITHOUT YOU AS A
PARTNER OR WITHOUT YOU BEING
INCLUDED IN THE STRATEGIES THAT
WENT INTO THE PLAN?
>> I AM HOPEFUL THAT THIS PLAN
WILL WORK.
WHETHER IT WORKS OR NOT REMAINS
TO BE SEEN.
I KNOW I MENTIONED THE OTHER DAY
THAT I KNOW THERE IS AN PORTION
OR AMOUNT OF THE PLAN IS GOING
TO BE USED FOR THE WRITING OF
PARKING TICKET.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT HAS TO DO
WITH CRIMES OF VIOLENCE THAT ARE
TAKING PLACE IN THE QUARTER AND
THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
BUT IT IS IN THE PACKAGE.
THAT IS THE POINT I WAS TRYING
TO MAKE.
IT SEEMS THE ENFORCEMENT OF
PARKING VIOLATIONS IS NOT AS
SERIOUS AS SUPPORTING THE DAS
OFFICE IS GOING TO BE CHARGED
WITH THE OPPORTUNITY --
RESPONSIBILITY TO PROSECUTE
THOSE INDIVIDUALS ARRESTED BY
THE POLICE.
I WANT IT TO WORK.
I LOVE THE CITY.
I WAS BORN, RAISED, AND EDUCATED
HERE AND I WANT THE CITY TO BE A
BETTER PLACE NOT ONLY FOR ME BUT
FOR OUR CHILDREN AND
GRANDCHILDREN.
THAT IS OUR GOAL AND HIS ALWAYS
BEEN OUR FUNCTION.
TRAVERS: DOES SOMEBODY HAVE TO
REACH OUT TO THE OTHER PARTY
WHETHER IT BE YOU REACHING OUT
TO CITY HALL, THE COUNCIL
REACHING OUT TO YOU, TO THE
FENCES HAVE TO BE VENTED HERE
AND CAN THEY BE MENDED?
A LOT OF THE PEOPLE YOU ARE
TALKING ABOUT ARE SEEKING HIGHER
OFFICE THIS FALL.
THERE ARE SEVERAL COUNCILMEMBERS
WHO MAY RUN FOR MAYOR AND
DISTRICT COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO MAY
RUN AT LARGE.
THESE ARE PEOPLE YOU MAY HAVE TO
DEAL WITH IN DIFFERENT OFFICES
IN THE VERY NEAR FUTURE.
CAN THE FENCES OF THE AMENDED?
>> ABSOLUTELY.
IF THERE IS ANYTHING MORE
IMPORTANT -- THERE IS NOTHING
MORE IMPORTANT THAN PUBLIC
SAFETY.
AT THIS STAGE IN THE HISTORY OF
NEW ORLEANS, PUBLIC SAFETY
SHOULD BE THE FIRST AND FOREMOST
ISSUE WE NEED TO BE CONCERNED
ABOUT.
IF WE CAN'T MAKE THIS PLAY SAFE
FOR THE LAW-ABIDING PEOPLE OF
THIS COMMUNITY, THERE WILL NOT
BE A NEW ORLEANS.
IT IS AS SIMPLE AS THAT.
TRAVERS: WE APPRECIATE YOUR
TIME.
UNFORTUNATELY WE ARE OUT OF
TIME.
WE WILL CONTINUE TO FOLLOW ALL
OF THESE DEVELOPING STORIES AS
THE WEEK CONTINUES.
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