HARVEY: SO MAGIC JOHNSON WHO IS
A, SUCH A -- I WANT TO SAY A
CAREFUL GUY.
I LOVE MAGIC JOHNSON SO MUCH.
CHARLES: WE'LL ALWAYS TALK
ABOUT THINGS.
HE HAS A TENDENCY --
HARVEY: VERY MEASURED.
CHARLES: SOUNDS LIKE A
POLITICIAN THAT HE DIDN'T WANT
TO ATTACK PEOPLE.
WE GOT HIM NOW.
THIS IS, WE DON'T HEAR MAGIC
THIS STRONG ABOUT SOMETHING, HE
IS TALKING OF COURSE, ABOUT
DONALD TRUMP AND ABOUT THE
SO-CALLED MUSLIM BAN AND THE BAN
OF SEVEN PEOPLE ENTERING THIS
COUNTRY FROM SEVEN OTHER
COUNTRIES.
HARVEY: SO WE GOT HIM OUT, YOU
KNOW WHAT, JUST LISTEN TO THE
WORDS HERE.
HE IS UNUSUALLY STRONG.
MAGIC: IT'S WRONG TO
DISCRIMINATE AGAINST PEOPLE.
WE HAVE A LOT OF GREAT MUSLIM
BROTHERS AND SISTERS WHO ARE
HERE DOING A WONDERFUL JOB OF
BEING GREAT AMERICANS.
HE HAS GOT TO LEARN THAT YOU
CAN'T JUST BE A DICTATOR.
I JUST FIRST OF ALL PRAY TO GOD
THAT SOMETHING WILL CLICK WITH
HIM AND HE CAN GET IT OR
SOMEBODY CAN GET IN HIS CABINET
THAT CAN GET TO HIM TO TALK TO
HIM BECAUSE THIS IS NOT RIGHT.
HARVEY: WELL, MAGIC JOHNSON IS
NOT ALONE.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE A POINT HERE
BECAUSE MAGIC, YOU KNOW, MAGIC
IS ROYALTY IN L.A.
I MEAN HE IS JUST ROYALTY IN
L.A.
AGAIN, A VERY MEASURED GUY.
DURING THE ELECTION, TO ME AT
LEAST, A LOT OF CELEBRITIES WERE
WHITE NOISE, THEY JUMPED ON THE
SAME BANDWAGON.
YOU WEREN'T SURE WHAT THEY FELT,
BUT NOW CELEBRITIES ARE BANNING
TOGETHER IN THIS, AFTER THE
MUSLIM BAN, AND THEY ARE BEING
HEARD NOW.
IT FEELS DIFFERENT TO ME.
EVEN GIGI AND BELLA HADID WHO
WENT OUT AND MARCHED --
CHARLES: TOOK TO THE STREETS.
HARVEY: AND BY THE WAY, THEY
HAVE A DOG IN THE FIGHT BECAUSE
OF THEIR DAD, BUT JUST THE FACT
THAT PEOPLE ARE GETTING INVOLVED
THIS WAY, IT FEELS VERY
DIFFERENT FROM THE NORMAL, OK,
I'M A CELEBRITY, I'M GETTING
INVOLVED.
VAN: CAN I ASK YOU WHY, THOUGH?
A LOT OF THESE ISSUES, I'M
LEGITIMATELY ASKING THE
QUESTION.
A LOT OF THE ISSUES THEY ARE
GETTING INVOLVED WITH NOW ARE
THINGS THEY FEARED.
CHARLES: THEY FEARED IT, BUT
THEY DIDN'T WANT TO SAY -- IF
YOU SAID IT THAT YOU JUST FEAR
IT, THEN THE OTHER SIDE COULD
COME BACK AND SAY WELL, NOTHING
HAS HAPPENED.
NOW IT'S ACTUALLY HAPPENED.
HARVEY: HERE IS THE DIFFERENCE.
A LOT OF THEM WERE JUST
AFFIRMATIVELY SUPPORTING HILLARY
CLINTON.
I DON'T THINK THAT RANG TRUE
WITH A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO JUST
DIDN'T LIKE HER AND MAYBE LIKED
TRUMP LESSOR WHATEVER.
I THINK IT WAS THE SUPPORT OF
HILLARY THAT DIDN'T RESONATE,
BUT WHAT THEY'RE DOING NOW,
WHICH IS VERY DIFFERENT, IS
RESONATING.
I THINK THERE IS A DIFFERENCE.
CHARLES: THERE IS SOMETHING
TANGIBLE WHERE YOU CAN SAY,
LOOK, THAT DOCUMENT WAS SIGNED.
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THE
PRESIDENT HAS NOW PUT --
HARVEY: IT'S HAPPENING.
CHARLES: IT'S HAPPENING.
VAN: TO THAT POINT, I GET IT,
BUT AT THE SAME TIME, THE TRUMP
ADMINISTRATION IS MAKING GOOD ON
PROMISES THAT THEY MADE AND
THAT'S KIND OF WHY PEOPLE WERE
NOT LIKING HIM, RIGHT?
HARVEY: I THINK A LOT -- VAN,
WAS ALL CAST IN THE FRAMEWORK OF
WE LOVE HILLARY CLINTON.
THAT'S REALLY THE WAY THAT WAS
CAST.
CHARLES: YOU CAN SAY --
HARVEY: YOU CAN'T STAND ON THE
STAGE AND SAY SHE IS THE LESSER
TWO.
YOU CAN'T DO THAT.
CHARLES: THERE WASN'T SOMETHING
TO PROTEST.
IT HADN'T BEEN DONE.
VAN: THE ONLY THING THAT SORT
OF GETS ME ABOUT A LOT OF THE
OUTRAGE THAT IS HAPPENING NOW,
ANYONE WHAT IS FOLLOWING THE
CAMPAIGN OR ANYONE WHO FOLLOWED
THE CAMPAIGN THROUGHOUT THE TIME
HE WAS TALKING TO THE AMERICAN
PEOPLE SHOULD BE EXPECTING ALL
OF THESE THINGS BECAUSE THIS IS
EXACTLY WHAT HE PROMISED.
HARVEY: YOU SHOULD NOT SAY THAT
HE IS WITHOUT SUPPORT BECAUSE I
DON'T KNOW --
CHARLES: BY THE WAY, LOOK, I
SAW ONE POLL THIS MORNING WHERE
IT SAID THAT MOST, THE MAJORITY
OF AMERICANS BY A SMALL AMOUNT
ARE IN FAVOR OF THE BAN AND THAT
ISN'T SHOCKING EITHER BECAUSE
THEY ELECTED DONALD TRUMP
PRESIDENT, RIGHT?
BY A MAJORITY, HE WAS ELECTED --
WELL, I GUESS SOME PEOPLE SAY
NOT A MAJORITY, IT DEPENDS ON
WHAT YOU'RE MEASURING.
TO THAT POINT, WE HAD ANOTHER
PERSON OUT WHO WAS ALSO VERY
PASSIONATE ABOUT THIS, BUT IN A
DIFFERENT WAY THAN WHAT MAGIC
SAID, TANK, THE SINGER, WE GOT
OUT AND WE ASKED HIM ABOUT THIS.
HERE WAS HIS RESPONSE.
LOOK, HE MAKES IT VERY CLEAR HOW
HE FEELS BECAUSE HE SAYS IT OVER
AND OVER.
>> WHAT DID YOU THINK ABOUT THIS
BAN THAT THEY PASSED THIS
WEEKEND?
>> LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHING.
LOVE IS THE ONLY THING THAT IS
GOING TO CHANGE EVERYTHING.
>> REALLY?
>> IMMIGRANTS BUILT THIS NATION.
>> IT'S KIND OF SETTLING --
>> GUESS WHAT, IT'S AMERICA
ELECTED THIS PRESIDENT.
SO, GUESS WHAT, SOMETIMES YOU
GET WHAT YOU ASK FOR.
SOMETIMES YOU GET WHAT YOU ASK
FOR.
CHARLES: HE SAID IT ABOUT FOUR
OR FIVE MORE TIMES.
HE WANTED YOU TO THINK ABOUT IT.
YOU GET WHAT YOU ASK FOR.
AS A WHOLE --
HARVEY: WHO IS SURPRISED HERE?
CHARLES: AS A WHOLE --
HARVEY: ON EITHER SIDE WHO IS
SURPRISED?
VAN: THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE, YOU
HEARD THIS REFRAIN CONTINUOUSLY
THROUGHOUT THE CAMPAIGN, REALLY,
THIS ISN'T HIS HEART, HE DIDN'T
MEAN THIS, HE IS USING THIS TO
GET ELECTED.
THE REALITY IS THAT HE MEANT
EVERYTHING HE SAID AND
EVERYTHING THAT HE CAMPAIGNED
ON, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE ABOUT TO
GET.
AND EVEN SOME THINGS THAT MAYBE
WE DIDN'T, THAT HE DIDN'T
CAMPAIGN ON, WE'RE ABOUT TO GET
THOSE THINGS, TOO.
SO FOR THE PEOPLE WHO SUPPORTED
DONALD TRUMP AND THE PEOPLE IN
FAVOR OF THE ADMINISTRATION,
HOLD ON TO YOUR HATS, WE GOT A
LONG WAY TO GO.
HARVEY: WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON.
I WANT TO SAY ONE OTHER THING.
THE PENDULUM IN THIS COUNTRY HAS
SWUNG BACK AND FORTH FOR
HUNDREDS OF YEARS WHERE IT GOES
TO ONE SIDE AND THEN THE OTHER
SIDE.
SOMEHOW WE ALWAYS SURVIVE.
I HAVE SEEN IT JUST AS A STUDENT
OF LAW.
I HAVE SEEN IT WITH THE COURT,
WITH THE U.S. SUPREME COURT A
NUMBER OF TIMES.
WHEN YOU REALLY STUDY THE COURT
OVER SEVERAL HUNDRED YEARS, YOU
SEE THESE RADICAL SWINGS WHEN
ONE SIDE DOMINATES, THEN THE
OTHER SIDE DOMINATES, AND YET
THE WAY THIS COUNTRY WAS FOUNDED
WITH THIS AMAZING DOCUMENT, IT
HAS ALWAYS SURVIVED.
AND PEOPLE ALWAYS SAY IT WON'T,
BUT IT ALWAYS DOES.
CHARLES: IT ALWAYS DOES.
BY THE WAY, THAT'S THE SUPREME
COURT'S, THEIR DUTY IS TO MAKE
SURE IT STAYS OVERALL IN THE
MIDDLE AND STAYS ON THE
CONSTITUTION.
HARVEY: HOWEVER, WHAT DONALD
TRUMP DOES TOMORROW IS GOING TO
HAVE A HUGE IMPACT ON THIS COURT
BECAUSE HE IS GOING TO APPOINT
SOMEBODY AND THAT IS GOING TO
SHIFT THE BALANCE ONE WAY OR THE
OTHER.
CALLER: HEY, GUYS, AMANDA FROM
ATLANTIC CITY, NEW JERSEY.
ALL I GOT TO SAY IS WOW.
KUDOS TO MAGIC JOHNSON FOR
SPEAKING SO STRONGLY AND
ELOQUENTLY ABOUT THIS TOPIC.
I THINK HE IS RIGHT.
WHAT WE NEED RIGHT NOW IS A
UNIFIER, SOMEBODY THAT IS GOING
TO BRING OUR COUNTRY TOGETHER
AND SHOWS WHAT MAKES THIS
COUNTRY SO AMAZING.
THAT WAS ACCEPTANCE AND OPEN
ARMS AND RIGHT NOW WHAT WE'RE
GETTING AND WHAT WE'RE SHOWING
TO THE REST OF THE WORLD IS NOT
THAT.
AS A PARENT, THAT SCARES ME.
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