LAST MONTH IT WAS REVEALED THAT CHECHNYA AND AUTHORITIES ARE
ROUNDING UP GAME AND IN THE REGION, TORTURING THEM AND
KEEPING THEM IN CONTAINMENT CAMPS.
ONE SURVIVOR WHO ESCAPES THIS CAMP HAS A PRETTY SCARY
STORY TO TELL.
HE'S ANONYMOUS IN THIS VIDEO, BUT TAKE
A LOOK.
SO, OBVIOUSLY THAT IS A HARROWING ANECDOTE.
HE CONTINUED TO SAY, "WE WERE TORTURED EVERY DAY.
BESIDE BEATINGS, WE WERE BEATEN SEVERAL TIMES A DAY WITH
POLYPROPYLENE TUBES.
WE WERE TORTURED WITH ELECTRICITY."
HE GOES ON TO TELL ABOUT HOW THEY WERE ELECTROCUTED, AND HOW
THEY WOULD HOPE THAT THEY WOULD PASS OUT SO THAT THEY
WOULDN'T CONTINUE TO BE ELECTROCUTED.
IT IS JUST DISGUSTING WHAT THEY ARE DOING OVER THERE.
THE ABUSE WAS FIRST REPORTED IN APRIL, WHICH SAID THAT ABOUT
100 MEN SUSPECTED OF BEING GAY WERE ROUNDED UP AND
TORTURED, AND AT LEAST THREE WERE KILLED.
SOME OFFICIALS WERE QUESTIONED BY ñ
ONE OFFICIAL WAS QUESTIONED BY HUMAN RIGHTS GROUPS ABOUT THIS,
AND A SPOKESMAN SAYS, "THERE ARE NO HOMOSEXUALS IN CHECHNYA.
YOU CANNOT DETAIN AND PERSECUTE INDIVIDUALS WHO DO NOT EXIST."
JUST TO GIVE YOU SOME BACKGROUND, THIS IS A VERY
CONSERVATIVE REGION; THEY ARE PREDOMINANTLY MUSLIM, AND
ARE DOING THESE HORRIBLE THINGS.
NOW, SOME OF THE GAY MEN WHO HAVE ESCAPED THESE
TREATMENTS, THESE CAMPS, ARE ESCAPING OVER THE RUSSIAN
BORDER AND ARE TRYING TO SEEK REFUGE THERE.
THE HEAD OF THE RUSSIAN LGBT NETWORK SAYS SHE IS AN ABSOLUTE
SHOCK, AND THAT THEY HAD NEVER SEEN ANYTHING LIKE THIS.
THEY ARE PLEADING TO GRANT VISAS TO BEING GAY MEN, WHICH
COULD BE A MATTER OF SAVING THEIR LIVES.
RUSSIA, WHICH ALSO HAS A LOT OF HOMOPHOBIC SENTIMENT, IS
THERE REFUGE, WHICH SHOWS YOU HOW DIRE THE SITUATION IS.
YEAH, RIGHT, IF YOU WANT TO GO TO RUSSIA TO BE TREATED BETTER.
IT'S MESSED UP, AND I THINK WE SHOULD TAKE THEM, AND IT'S
BACKED BY THE NOTION OF THE TRAVEL BAN.
THE JUSTIFICATION WAS THAT WE NEEDED TO ACCEPT SYRIAN
CHRISTIANS BECAUSE THEY WERE PART OF A TARGETED GROUP,
WITHIN A LARGER POPULATION.
SO IF YOU ARE GOING TO HOLD TO THAT, PRESIDENT TRUMP, THIS IS A
GROUP WITHIN A LOCATION THAT IS BEING ñ
VIDEO BUFFERING ñ
PROSECUTED FOR, IN ONE CASE THEIR BELIEFS, BUT IN THIS CASE
WHO THEY ARE, THEIR SEXUAL PROCLIVITIES, AND I WANT TO HEAR
FROM THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION ON IT.
I THINK THAT'S A GOOD POINT.
THESE PEOPLE ARE BEING PERSECUTED, AND A LOT OF
REALLY SCARY WAYS.
THE GUY IN THE VIDEO TALKS ABOUT HOW WE WILL ñ HOW HE WAS IN
A CAR, HE WAS WITH A FRIEND, AND THE POLICE JUST ASSUMED THERE
WAS SOMETHING GOING ON WITH THEM, AND ARRESTED THEM BOTH.
THERE WAS ONE SITUATION WHERE A MAN WHO WAS DETAINED, THEY WENT
TO A CELL PHONE AND FOUND A NUMBER OF ANOTHER MAN, SO
THEY WENT AFTER HIM.
THERE'S ALL KINDS OF CASES WHERE THEY ARE HUNTING THESE
PEOPLE DOWN, OFTEN TIMES TORTURING THEM TO GET THE
NAMES OF OTHER GAY MEN IN THE AREA, AND IT IS FRIGHTENING
THAT THIS IS HAPPENING IN 2017.
IT'S FRIGHTENING THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS IS NOT A STORY THAT IS
TAKING OVER THE MEDIA, AND IT SHOULD BE, BECAUSE THIS IS
TERRIFYING.
PUTTING PEOPLE IN DETAINMENT CAMPS, THIS IS SUCH A HUMAN
RIGHTS VIOLATION, AND THE FACT THAT WE ARE NOT DOING
ANYTHING AS A COUNTRY IS TERRIFYING.
WE ARE TALKING TO RUSSIA ABOUT SYRIA, I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY
RUSSIA ñ WE KNOW THAT THE CHECHNYAN PRESIDENTS, DICTATOR,
POSSIBLY CLOSETED HOMOSEXUAL MAN, IS VERY INVOLVED WITH
VLADIMIR PUTIN, AND WHY ARE WE ALSO LENDING A HAND ñ
WHY AREN'T WE ALSO LENDING A HAND TO THE LGBT SURVIVORS
IN THE REGION, WHY AREN'T WE TALKING ABOUT THEM AT ALL?
BECAUSE THE MAN IN CHARGE IS A STRONG MAN, AND I RESPECT
STRONGMEN, HE'S BEEN TAKING A STRONG STANCE, THAT'S WHAT
IT SEEMS TO BE.
AND I BY NO MEANS AM DEFENDING IT, I'M ATTACKING IT.
ONE DECISION THAT DONALD TRUMP HAS VERY CLEARLY MADE ñ
I MEAN, HAS HE MADE ANY DECISION OR IT WAS JUST LIKE, WIND
WAS BLOWING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION?
MAYBE THEY DIDN'T WRITE ABOUT THIS IN BREITBART YET.
EXACTLY ñ WELL, GO AHEAD.
NO, YOU GO AHEAD.
I DON'T REMEMBER.
WHEN I WAS GOING TO SAY, AND I CAN'T BELIEVE I'M GOING TO SAY
THIS, BUT I THINK A POSSIBLE REASON WHY PEOPLE AREN'T TALKING
ABOUT THIS WITHIN MEDIA COULD BE THAT BECAUSE CHECHNYA IS A
MUSLIM COUNTRY ñ LIKE, A MUSLIM MAJORITY COUNTRY, AND THIS GOES
BACK TO THAT WHOLE CONCEPT THAT, YOU KNOW, MUSLIMS ARE ANTI-LGBT,
AND THIS RELIGION IS INTOLERANT TO THE WESTERN SOCIETY, THE
WESTERN SOCIETY WAY OF LIVING, AND THE REALITY IS THAT
THIS WHOLE CONCEPT IS HOMOPHOBIA.
THEY MIGHT SAY THAT, OH WE NEED TO CLEAR OUT THE COUNTRY OF
HOMOSEXUALITY BEFORE RAMADAN, THEY MIGHT USE THAT, BUT THE
REALITY IS, IT'S INHERENT, IT'S JUST HOMOPHOBIA IN A LESS
CIVILIZED NATION.
AND SOME MIGHT BE USING RELIGION AS A REASON TO WIPE OUT THE
HOMOSEXUALS, BUT BRETT BROUGHT UP A REALLY GOOD POINT,
THESE GUYS ARE MUSLIM AND GAY, SO WHY DO WE SAVE THEM?
I THINK YOU ARE RIGHT, THE FACT THAT IT IS IN A PART OF THE
WORLD THAT WE DO NOT DEEM COMPARABLE BY THE MAINSTREAM
MEDIA, SO WE WOULD BE COVERED LIKE IT WHAT IF IT WAS
TAKING PLACE SOMEWHERE LIKE ENGLAND, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN?
AND ALSO FROM CHECHNYA, THE REPORTS ARE JUST THAT THERE ARE
CHECHNYAN SEPARATISTS, THAT'S ALL YOU KNOW, AND IT'S SO HARD
TO INTRODUCE NEW THINGS WHEN YOU WILL KNOW A STORY ABOUT A REGION
AND DON'T EVEN CARE ABOUT THAT, TO CARE ABOUT MORE, OTHER KINDS
OF ISSUES, BUT I MEAN, THE THINGS THEY HAVE SAID, THEY CALL
IT A PROPHYLACTIC SUITE.
THAT SAME SPONSOR FOR THE RULER THAT YOU QUOTED BEFORE,
SAID THAT THE GAY PEOPLE'S RELATIVES WOULD SEND THEM
SOMEWHERE FROM WHICH THERE'S NO RETURNING.
SO, FIRST HE IS SAYING THERE ARE NO GAY PEOPLE.
AND THEN HE CONTINUES TO SAY ñ
AND THEN HE'S LIKE, IF THERE WERE WE ARE TRYING TO KEEP
THEM OUT OF RAMADAN.
HIS STATEMENT THAT THERE ARE NO GAY PEOPLE IN THE REGION, THAT
SHOULD BE ENOUGH OF A RED FLAG TO HUMAN RIGHTS ACTIVISTS THAT,
HEY, THIS COUNTRY ISN'T ACCEPTING, IT IS NOT
TOLERANCE, WE NEED TO INTERVENE.
AND HOW THIS ALL STARTED, YOU MIGHT WONDER, ONE OF THE
REPORTS IS THAT THERE WERE LIKE 15 PEOPLE WHO WANT TO DO
YOU A GAY RIGHTS MARCH, AND SO THEY APPLIED FOR PERMITS.
PEOPLE SAID, DON'T APPLY FOR PERMITS BECAUSE THIS
DOESN'T EXIST.
YOU MIGHT AS WELL HAVE A UNICORN PARADE BECAUSE THERE AREN'T
ANY UNICORNS IN THE WORLD.
THEY WERE LIKE, WE LOVE UNICORNS.
ANYWAY, THEY CONTINUE TO APPLY FOR THE PERMITS, AND THEY GOT
DENIED, AND HOPED THAT WOULD SPUR THE ISSUE UP TO THE EU
HUMAN RIGHTS COURT, BUT BEFORE THAT WAS ABLE TO HAPPEN, THAT'S
WHEN THE WHOLE ROUNDING UP AND PROPHYLACTIC ñ
THAT SOMETHING THAT HAPPENS IN RUSSIA A LOT AS WELL, I THINK,
WHEN THEY ARE APPLYING FOR PROTESTS THEY GET DENIED FOR
PERMITS, AND A LOT OF THE GAY PEOPLE IN CHECHNYA SAY THAT THEY
ARE USED TO THIS SORT OF DISCRIMINATION, AND USED TO THE
WAY THE GOVERNMENT TREATS THEM, AND SO THEY HAVE ONLY REALLY
EXPRESSED THEMSELVES, WHO THEY REALLY ARE IN PRIVATE.
THEY HAVE TO GET MARRIED AND HAVE CHILDREN, AND DON'T
TELL THEIR FAMILIES, BECAUSE OF THE RHETORIC FROM THE GOVERNMENT
OFFICIALS, AND I GUESS JUST RHETORIC IN GENERAL COMMUNITIES.
AND IN A REGION WHERE THERE IS SO MUCH ñ I DON'T KNOW HOW IT'S
EXACTLY CALLED, IF IT'S A COUNTRY OR A PROTECTORATE
OF RUSSIA, BUT IN THAT AREA WHERE SUPPRESSION IS SO
RAMPANT, IF YOU WANT TO SUPPRESS ANYBODY, YOU JUST CALL THEM GAY,
AND WHO IS TO SAY THEY AREN'T, AND THEN THEY GET ROUNDED UP.
I WAS GOING TO SAY, HOW DO YOU DETERMINE IF SOMEONE'S ñ
IF SOMEONE IS GAY OR NOT?
ESPECIALLY WHEN THE LEADER IS VERY CLEARLY A CLOSETED
HOMOSEXUAL.
I CAN'T STRESS THAT ENOUGH, SERGEY ABRAMOV IS DEFINITELY A
CLOSETED
HOMOSEXUAL.
BUT ASIDE FROM THAT, LOOK, I MEAN THAT IS CRAZY THAT WE ARE
LIVING IN FEAR THAT THIS PERSON COULD POSSIBLY COME AND
MURDER A US POLITICAL PUNDIT.
BUT THE OTHER POINT I WANTED TO MAKE IS, WHEN RUSSIA
DISCRIMINATES TOWARDS LGBT GROUPS, OR DECIDES THAT THEY ARE
GOING TO TAKE OVER OR ANNEX SOME SORT OF TERRITORY, WE CAN'T
REALLY FIGHT BACK WITH SANCTIONS.
WE ARE IN A CONSTANT PROXY WAR WITH THE MIDDLE EAST AND
RUSSIA, SO IT'S DIFFERENT, BUT WHEN IT IS CHECHNYA, LITTLE
COUNTRY, IT SHOULD BE A LITTLE BIT EASIER TO ENFORCE SOME
SORT OF HUMANITARIAN MISSION.
YEAH, BUT IT IS WITHIN RUSSIA.
BUT AS YOU SAID, IT'S GOT TO BE PART OF
THE DISCUSSION.
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