Is it important what Jews outside think of Israel?
Of course
Their views are important?
Of course
Let's say they are against Netenyahu
or against...
Adiel Tel Aviv
How can I explain it to you?
They have their views, what they decide
we are a democratic country
But do you take in what they think?
What do you mean? Everyone has their own views
This is a democratic country
Let's say that the majority of American Jews think holding the West Bank is a mistake
Holding the West Bank is a mistake?
No, holding the West Bank is not a mistake
Let's say that they think that
They can think that from today until tomorrow
We have a prime minister and he decides
So you care what they think
but you don't take it seriously
It depends where they take it
Everyone can have their own opinion
If it's something that goes against your opinion
Everyone can have their own opinion that is what I am saying
Anaya Jerusalem
Guy Tel Aviv
Do you care about the opinions of Jews outside Israel?
Yes very much
Very much?
Luna Ramat Gan
Even if they are the opposite your own views?
Yes, they are not aware of what happens here
They can't give an answer on when they don't know what is happening
and how things are
They are far away and they can't give judgement on anything
So why...
Why do you care?
Because they view us in not nice ways
that we are not okay
If you are far away
you can't know if we are nice to someone or not nice to someone
Come, live here a bit
Try to build a life here
Then see, ask the questions and build your views
You can't come with rumours from the tv
and have an opinion
You have to come, live here see for yourself
It is a fact that many who move here
change their ideas and stay and live here
and then go back with a different idea
They have to come and see
Just like I have no opinion about them
they can't have an opinion about me
Do you care what Jews outside think of Israel?
Ofer Jerusalem
Of course, for our image
You really care? - Yes
Let's say they think you are facists
and Netenyahu is a facist
and we need to get rid of him
Jews outside think that
So you think that is legitimate?
Everyone can have their own opinion
Really? You accept that?
We are a free country a democratic country
But they aren't citizens
Anyone can think what they want
Anyone can have thier own opinion
It doesn't bother you?
No, it doesn't bother me
I am not responsible for the entire world and the entire world isn't responsible for me
so I have no problem anyone can think what they want
Do you care about the views of Jews outside?
Roi and Tom Tel Aviv
Views about what?
Political views
About our country?
Yes
I care but I wouldn't take it very seriously
Why do you care?
Bottom line, I only care what the Jews think
Bottom line
only if they are Jews
Because they are Jews? - Yes
ok, so why?
Let's focus on that part
What does it matter if they are Jews?
Good question
Your turn
I think their opinion can impact how people in the world think of us
I don't really care what they think
but sometimes it is important how Jews represent us in the world
It won't really impact...
But they represent your people not your country
There's a difference
Yes but people...
it is both
These are two different things but people connect the two today
People really mix the two together, the Jewish people and Israel
They see it as the same thing
So from their view, it is the same if the country of Israel
is the representative of Judaism
Yes true
So they would claim, why doesn't Israel act like Jews?
With the occupation and Bibi
Wars
Believe me, I don't agree with that behaviour either
and I am now...
Can you guys move over?
What do you think of the views of Jews outside Israel?
Sharon Natanya
Let's say many are against what Israel is doing in the West Bank
or against Netanyahu
Do you care?
I very much care
I think it is very difficult for Jews who live outside Israel
to really understand what is happening in Israel
What they are shown on the news and in the media
is completely different from the reality
and because I travel a lot around the world
I can understand why they think that way
But if they really cared
about Israel and it's existence
whether we are speaking about a democratic or a Jewish state
they would need to come here and live here for a while
to understand what is happening here
I assume that outside Jews are not on the same politics
middle to right (on the spectrum)
they are simply completely cut off from the reality
If they would come for a few week, or a month
they would be able to feel in their body what it is to be Israeli
I am sure their worldview would change completely
It is just easier for them to live where they live
As you know, it always looks different from over there
Do you have an example?
If anyone ever said anything to you
and you replied that things are different than you think
People don't really speak to me about politics when we are traveling
and if they do, I really try to make an impression of
that we have a very democratic country
that you can give your opinion here
and it doesn't matter which community you come from
and that the politics in Israel is comprised of
a majority of people who
understand the complex reality here
It's important to understand that what we do here is not what they see on tv
when you have organizations
like Btselem and Breaking the Silence
that take that one exact case of a soldier...
took something with force from his hand...
They don't show the entire story what happened just before that
that someone tried to murder or stab someone
It is edited in a very prejudicial
and it is constructed to create a negative image of Israel in the world
I can understand if they were Muslim
or people who don't know Israel
but Jews or former Israelis that do things like that
is a badge of shame for them
not for us
We do the best so we have an amazing country to live in
All of us together
Who is all of us? You mean Jews and Arabs?
Arabs, Jews, Religious, Secular
The problem is that each group here tries to pull more in different directions
If it can be more unified and cohecive
that is a real problem
But it is not such a huge problem
Israel is a great country
and it is the most beautiful best country to live in, ever
You can always go anywhere to visit
but there is no where better to live than Israel
Is it important what Jews outside Israel think about Israel?
Bar Modiin
their views
Of the Jews?
The Jews outside, not here
Yes it is important to me
I think they are our face in the world
They are there as a defence from all the hate that exists against us in the world
So yes, it is important to me what they think
I want them to understand what is happening here
Let's say they just don't agree with Netanyahu or the right
No problem
I also don't agree with Netanyahu
Yes but they say "Israel is an embarrassment for us"
Is it important for you that they say these things?
So Israel can change?
I don't think Israel has to change
because of their opinions
I think they need to understand better what is happening here
and not to be fed by the media
They don't really understand what is happening here
They don't understand the field and how things work here
They see something and stick to it
The media
So yes, I want them to understand deeply what the problems are here
I think that the biggest issue with Israel's image
is exactly that people don't understand they have no idea
They see children that are wounded or killed
and that's it
and they don't check, don't understand what is happening exactly
and how these things happen
So yes I think the opinions of Jews outside is important
It's more important for me
It's less important that they will defend us than that they will understand it themselves
because they are important to me I don't care what the world thinks
The world...
it doesn't matter what we do someone will always hate us
and someone will always want to annihilate us
or people who won't like us There is nothing we can do about that
That's the way it is always was, always will be
That is something that is difficult to change
I think that is the problem that the world doesn't understand
We don't have a partner to speak about change
Partner you mean Palestinians or Arabs - Yes
There is no partner because
This is a war of religions meaning it is ingrained for Arabs
that hate
that extremism
towards Jews is something that is ingrained in them
and has been forever
and it doesn't matter how
their goal might be to kill the Jews or expel the Jews
that we shouldn't be here
It doesn't matter if they will have a country
If we gave everything to them, they would still keep trying (to kill Jews)
If we give them a country and they are independant
then they will continue fight us as a country
They won't relax It isn't something that will bring peace
People think if we give them a country we will have peace. We won't
We have them many opportunities
we wanted to create a country for them
Land, Barak wanted to give them everything
and they didn't agree
because that is not really what they want
They have one goal and that is to kill the Jews
It is written in the Quran
"you need to burn the Jews with the pigs and apes" (a mix of two different verses)
Very difficult things
are written about the Jews in the Quran
It is a war of religion people don't understand that
It is Islam against Judaism
and it's for years
It sounds primitive
but that's what it is
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