Welcome! How are you?
Hello, good night. How are you?
Well, this is actually the first time I hear that story.
Nacho it's the diminutive of Ignacio, at least here in Spain, and that's where it comes from.
It doesn't have much story to it, as far as I know.
To be an artist I guess the inspiration it's the same for all those who are, let's say, in this worlds.
That being the need of telling, sharing, and for trying to spread certain messages to as much people as possible.
. I think it's that need, mostly to convey, to create and to communicate.
Well, the inspiration comes from from many different places, depending a bit from, let's say
the discipline we're referring to.
Like for those who make theater, the inspiration comes from trying to watch other people,
seeing shows and watching the public's reaction and wanting to rice them, motivated and somehow stimulate them.
Musically, I don't follow any particular artist.
I simply listen one or two artists by season, and like that, depending on which of my records you listen to
it sounds completely different. I don't have idols, I am fan of no one.
I don't have a line to follow.
Simply I get inspiration by my life, my experiences, the people who surround me and mostly the reaction
of the public I found; but always depends on each discipline.
I'm not inspired or focused the same on music or theater like I'm with producing audio-visuals.
What inspired me... well this it's a little more complex.
What really inspired me was watching the news and newspapers and seen that at the end of each year,
there's always news about women who were kill at the hands of their parents and news about certain TV ads
that were removed for being sexist or offensive towards women and did never appear any info
never appeared nothing on the contrary defending men; unlike it, there were campaigns ridiculing men in those situations.
And obviously by logic that there's men dying at the hands of their partners.
So when I realized that there was only info about women being abuse and murdered,
I started looking for those other data, that didn't appear anywhere.
I found a buck of associations, Facebook groups, were people say they were abuse too;
and see that in nowhere appear this data, this information, it didn't appear anywhere. That's when I have the idea of creating this,
because there was nothing like these 3 years a go there wasn't
any documental or any material related on men who also get abused.
And even then I didn't have, and I don't have, big audio-visuals mediums, I don't have a big movie production. I thought if I could do something I should do it.
Fortunately it was my own studio who did it, and my own studio is composed by my wife and I.
That was a big advantage. And what I wanted to exploit.
the fact that we have small mediums that were enough to share awareness to this problem.
Thank to that we were able to push it through, basically that the studio is only me and my wife,
if not I would have been very very difficult to get it out.
Well I can answer the first one. It took me 2 years to produce the movie.
Between searching the information, contacting associations, victims, professionals,
the time I took us to find financing, the filling and the post production.
Approximate 2 years total. That's one side and for the other, it wasn't difficult for us to find people.
What we struggle the most, was to find men who were abused physically. Because they're the ones that have more difficult to recognize it, or to face it.
And we have a lot of who wanted to speak anonymously but we didn't want to show blurred face in the documentary.
We didn't want people to think that they were actors speaking, as it could be anyone behind that blurred face.
So it was fairly easy to find people to collaborate. In fact, at the beginning it was going to be 12 to 13 people, at the end they were 26
and a lot of them were left out. The biggest problem was to find men abused physically. Psychologically and institutionally, we had docents to not say hundreds of
volunteers to participate in the documentary.
The 99% of the work has been covered by me and my wife. He has done absolutely everything, well almost everything; here I just forgot the screenwriter;
that also have spent he's fair amount hours of work in his cave. The soothing was done between my wife and me.
The screenwriting was done by Angel Luis Arjona, who worked in other projects of gender, historical memory, in other very interesting projects.
But all the technical parts have done between my wife and me. The filming, the post production, the montage, the sound, the color treatment.
Absolutely everything.
Our intention was to get founds to film it, because even when we have the most part of the equipment necessary and the knowledge on how to film it,
it was a few technical parts beyond our reach, economically speaking. And the idea of the crowdfunding was to finance that part however...
Well knowing you'll ask this next question, we were financially boycotted too.
I think it was in just five days. Five days. The campaign was made a Monday and that Friday, when we already got €1500,
that same Friday based in a massive attack from Twitter, it was remove the project from Verkami.
We don't know. What Verkami did was cancel the project without any notice, notifications, clarification or any statement about it.
They just told us that we were receiving many attacks. Then we did saw on Twitter that there were a lot of profiles saying it was going to be a sexist documentary,
and that Verkami should be ashamed to shelter our project, etc, etc. But we didn't have any official answer from Verkami. We tried to ask for an explanation,
and they just said that they didn't need to give us any explanation. Even when they helped to build our project.
Yes, this accounts are still open in our page http://www.silenciados.org They're still open, the channels to financing, because even after the
filming when we're trying to screen it in different cities of Spain, we still have not raise the money that we invested on it.
We have not managed to cover the expenses. At the beginning we got like €5000 and with that we barely, barely cover the expenses of the filming,
but there are many expenses around it generated by the post production, displacements, festival presentation's, etc, etc.
That are still not covered. So those accounts are open in our page. As a PayPal like a bank account.
Well, the movie was first released at the end of 2017, I think in September.
August or September, I'll need to check it, right now I can't remember.
But it was first screened in Latin American Festivals.
It was shown in Chile, Los Angeles, in Uruguay too, and in Bolivia. In Bolivia.
That was in Latin-American and in Spain the first screening was, of course the release in Barcelona,
that Tyler already got news about it.
Actually we did. We were expecting boycotts to happen. Because, we saw it in social media. They were organizing
and moving to block the documentary. So we were waiting for it,
even we had private security, but still we had all the problems that you already know.
Basically the people present and us, abusers, murderers, harassers. And when the police escort them,
, because they thought we couldn't screen it anymore
because it was time of the next movie, but the next movie was move in advance by the director of the cinema
to show "Silenciados" if there were any inconvenience, because we already know what could happen.
When they left, they left singing "no legs, no arms, tear apart machos"
And screaming "machete to the macho" and those kind of slogans.
No, because right now we haven't had any more.
We have the one in Albacete, that they managed
to block it before.
But we still have not an official statement on who was. Who blocked it.
So we were going to show it in Albacete in a municipal cinema, and the night before, we were notified that it could not be
done because all the treats a pressure, but we have never known where these threats and pressure come from.
A week later we did show it in a private cinema in Albacete, and because
we did the way that we did it, like in a surprise kind of way, and also I guess by also having the police was at the door,
there wasn't any problems. We could show it.
We fill the seats to the top. Here we didn't have that
aggressive and violent problem that we had with people at the door. But the first screening that we had planned was cancelled
while we don't know we're came the pressure, the boycott.
Well, first of all I want to say that I'm not a specialist nor an expert
on gender violence, or feminism, nothing like that.
The truth is I don't know who inspires who but this movement it's very generalized.
Because the same problem that we have with "Silenciados", "The Red Pill" had it too,
so did "Borrando a Papá" or "Borrando a la Familia" that sure it had it,
that's a new production from the creators of "Borrando a Papá" in Argentina were they also have their good
amount of trouble pushing it trough.
Yes. The problem that we have is that's very hard to protect in Spain;
well, I imagine outside would be the same; trying our luck we're trying to present it in different cities
in Spain, like Madrid, Malaga, Granada, Barcelona again;
were an association that wants to repeat it there; Zaragoza, Leon, Valencia.
There are some cities in where we are working to screening it, but it's very hard.
On average we spend a month to prepare each screening.
And we can't find a faster way to do it because we encounter walls and elements against us.
But we're trying to screening it in more Spanish cities.
My first response is that before criticize and give your opinion about something
mostly about a public product, you'll need to see it.
At minimum know the content of it.
We need to remember that even when it was blocked Verkami in the beginning, when we've yet to write the
the script there were people who claim to have watched it and said it was really machista.
So, obviously, we know they're lying, they don't have any bases when they accuse
that the project is machista. And I'll say that people should just try to watch it.
We invite everyone to come in. We don't put any books at the door for anyone with
any type of ideology to enter and watch it.
In Albacete and Barcelona between people who watch it there where some who at the beginning wasn't in favor of the documentary
that went there to give their opinion on it, and they realized about the real content of it, and that 40% of the movie
demonstrated that women are still not protected by this law, which is absurd and works for nothing but fill pockets.
That the number of women killed by their husbands and/or their ex boyfriends have not change with this law.
I would say try to see it and give their opinion on it because it could be that we're wrong,
I'm not saying that we have the absolute truth, but before criticize it first watch it then give your opinion.
First we don't have a physical format in mind. We are trying to find a distributor that get the documentary to Latino America.
Well Latino America and United States, of course. But it's been equally hard. We haven't found a distributor that deeps itself into this to export it.
It's true that we have open conversations with different associations from all the globe, so possibly little screenings will happen in little
cities in little private cinemas around the world. However, the plan is, if in a few months we have not been able to generalize it,
we will upload it in payed platforms and download platforms, so that everyone can watch it.
Yes. It's already translated in English. We already have the subtitles, that it's one of the contributions of one of the patrons.
We had had many contributions, like contributing with their house when we were to their city, those who helped us giving their cars,
and it were a patron in particular who helped us with the expenses of the subtitles of the movie.
And like that we have it subtitle it in English, yes.
It's one of our plans, the fact is that, seems like in this topic, we think the big
platforms and big companies won't get involved with this kind of project. But we'll try everything of course.
Well I have a serious problem, and is that I have more plans and projects that I can do in a lifetime. That's my problem basically, mostly because I can't pay them all.
Yes, we have lots of plans for other projects and we don't know with which one we can carry on.
We have that sickness that makes us not wanting to stop creating new projects. And we can't say what they are about,
because the curse that says if you tell what's about the project, it won't come out.
They're waiting to see how goes with what we have going on right now.
A lot of work no?
Yes. A lot.
In Twitter we have the official account of "Silenciados" that is @DocuSilenciados Then we also have Facebook accounts.
We can be find like Nacho Gonzales and Documental Silenciados. And then of course we have our
easiest contact place, we we try to share all the information, that is http://www.silenciados.org
Mr. Gonzalez, thanks very much for the opportunity!
Thank to you. It was a pleasure. Thanks to you Tyler, for giving us this precious time.
And thanks of course to Miu for being the translator, without you we wouldn't have been able to understand nothing.
You're welcome, you're welcome!
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