There's only a few times in history where you get these dramatic changes and
we are in the middle of such a dramatic change. The younger generations, as well,
as it's not equal, by any means, but there's more opportunity for women to -
it's not it's not so much that you have to go to school, get married and have kids,
that's your whole completely different - use mind set!
So we're here after their recording with so we were talking about conquering the
fear of pressing The Red Button and doing video, whether it's live or record
and then putting it up there and Jenny, who was in the background - Jenny helps
me with social media - and an interesting conversation started coming out, so I
said, "We need to record this", because Jenny was getting her point of view on
the facts and doing the interview what we're talking about - the this the older
generation kinda tends to be more, about have a fear of, you know, the
demands - "Just never grew up with the web" but now we have a perspective from a younger
person, a millennial, are you - you're not even a - you're a millennial, okay, so
you know, what's the next one is the what's the next one, Generation Z? Yeah,
I can't keep up with it. Yeah I can't keep up with it. As well, there are different types of
Millennials, as well, because you're saying like the 30 year olds are also
Millennial, but they don't associate with like being 30 and being 21. Yeah - we're
all Millennial or two but we're all Millennials but 30 year-olds don't like
it's different. We all grew up differently so I think there should be a
shift there but - "and I think the difference is because of the thing I
talk about a lot, which is this rapid change, because it makes a huge
difference. Like I said, my 33 year old, my youngest, it's pretty web savvy but she's
not like you would be. Yeah. It's fascinating to see this this gradation, I
think you're right. It's so interesting cuz I don't think technically that I'm
web savvy, but I guess when I speak with like the older generation, things that
seem so natural to me are things that not everyone, but even when you and I
speak about some things, like, you'll say like, if I can, if you can do it, anyone
can do it, but I think, you're like good at social media and get all this stuff
but there's still that resistance I feel from you. Yeah, yeah but for me, it's like
oh this you know that's what you come up with it's it's natural generation
because that's all they know. So yeah, so is it easy for you then to
just push The Red Button. I think I'm not sure because I
think I can't generalize, but for me personally I've always kind of been I'm
the youngest so I've always been a bit of a performer, a bit of a attention
seeker, with my family, so it might just be my personality. Not to say that I'm
like super comfortable in front of a camera but it's not, it's not as daunting to
me, I guess, and it might once again I might just me
being but yeah I I think pushing the red button is fun. I don't know, I think you
guys were talking about how daunting it is but I didn't relate to that, so I
don't know if that's a "Me Thing" or if it that's a Millennial Thing. I think also
it's because we've become used used to FaceTime, which is pushing The Red Button.
It's all the same right, I mean I've got one kid who lives in northern
New York State, another one lives in the Netherlands and one lives in Alberta, so
when I talk to them it's not this - like when I first came to Canada and we'd
have a three minute call with my parents, and we were worried it was costing too
much, and how's the weather and the phone went down right that was basically. No I
mean I get on Zoom or FaceTime or Facebook Messenger
video, we talk for hours and that I think makes it a lot easier. If you grow up
with that - right - you can use video very easily. We were saying how important videos is
already, you know, how it's gonna become dominant, over maybe like, maybe more
traditional ways, not really traditional - blogging or something like writing
that might have to switch to. Yeah if blogging is already - it's huge and like you
said, it's personally, I would go to YouTube on how to do something. I would
never read, because what I feel like that's a waste of my time. Like I can
watch someone do it in 10 seconds, get the gist and do it. Why would I search
and then read through and - you know - a long article. I and I do the same. I mean
I always go to YouTube first. Yeah, I'll do that Yeah and my brother
but my brother, he's pretty much been model this this whole big big house and
and he's still in the remodeling phase, but I remember asking him "How did you learn to do all
this stuff?" It's like YouTube, yes you do yeah, I didn't know you knew how to tile like this! It's
amazing, cuz they're also tapping like YouTube is going, maybe not YouTube, but
video, educational videos, are gonna be huge, because now you like you said,
YouTube is free, the Internet is you know low-cost I would say and a lot of people
have access to it and on YouTube you have
YouTube videos, teaching you how to do anything and also when I was in school
like, if I didn't understand a math lesson, I would go home and I would
search on YouTube, the math lesson, so I'm teaching replacing a tutor, exactly chin
and so that that's gonna be interesting to see what happens with actual
education system, when you have so many new peoplem who don't necessarily have
the access or money to go to a traditional school, but they can now
learn online. Well my my kid who lives in the Netherlands, she and her husband,
they both teach in international schools and they are very aware of this
transition. In fact she's taught in Guyana and
Third World's, where already everything switches. You come to school to do great
to do projects, where you learn to work together, but all your learning is done
on web. It's a, it's a flip, by 180 degrees. In fact, they're coming back to
Canada, in a few months and they are looking, in fact, at transitioning to
teaching totally online now, and building online presence. Change - yes it's so
Yeah and I'm actually surprised it hasn't changed as rapidly, as I thought
it would. Yeah, I think it needs an organized government presence and nobody
or UN presence or decisions like that and nobody's got together to do it but
you are absolutely right, it's it's all changing.
people yep didn't have that opportunity for - not everyone can go to school - not everyone could have a
higher education, but if you have online maybe you're not, I don't know how they
could get certified, but just think you can all this yeah. Well MIT has put all
of its courses online, so they're all online for anyone available in the world
and so is I think Berkeley might have done too -- yeah there is the Khan Academy - really there's is no excuse.
There's - we have the devices, we have yep we just have to get over ourselves - Going
back to the plans, I feel for women it's not an excuse but I can understand
woman's hesitation. Yes so you're being judged. It's the fear of
being, not being liked, the fear of coming across not smart enough. It's the fear of
well, what are you thinking? who do you think you are? This has actually
happened to me - "who do you think you are going out there, doing this and that?" so
there is that fear. The point is, so I'm glad that the younger generation doesn't
have to deal with that, when - We do, we you know, I do the same, except maybe not
because we were not like in my generation, Sue's generation, we did not
grow up with the devices. Here's where you guys have the advantage. Even though you
said you grew up with a "dial up" I made it when I was a kid - I yeah - I remember
dial-up but I also it's been so many years that I had regular internet in the
house and you know, I remember getting a smartphone, for the first time, as well
like I went I think my generation was the last generation that really went
through every stage, from the cassette tape - yes I had me player and then you
know you went to an mp3 player and then I remember with iPods came out. I have
cassettes, my daughter Becca says. I know because that's where a bit above my time,
before my time - but I like there are some John Jay that I saw videos online that
they look at a CD player or cassette, "I don't know what this is? What is this?
Like, it's like an iPod - like what? and it's so funny, but it's like this is real
life, this is what's happening and you know it's rumoured - there's some guys
saying 2020 these will be gone and we will literally will be having something
equivalent to Google glasses or something and we'll be just in the air. It's
already here It just telling around Main Street yeah
be Holograms. It'll be teleportations. I mean they - Tony Robbins was teleported
to Melbourne, from Florida, two years ago and gave a six-hour boot camp onstage in
Melbourne from a Florida and he was there, well he looked like it wasn't true
teleportation a la - you know "Beam me up, Scotty" but it's, it's
enough. A friend of mine was in the audience and said it was incredible,
you wouldn't have known he wasn't there, so yeah yeah, so all this is coming.
Online too you know people say iPhones
so for the next. I think you're right is exciting. Yeah Yeah, to be honest, ten
years ago, you wouldn't have predicted what would come. Yeah, Yeah, I mean if you
look at it - what was it? 2006 was YouTube 2007 was Facebook and or maybe, no 2005
YouTube, 2006 Facebook, and in 2007 only 10 years ago, did the iPhones appear and
everything has changed. Those three were Like a perfect storm, everything
changed and you know and that's I know, for a lot of women, they haven't
realized yet, because it happened so fast. lt's like getting out of your
comfort zone and I think with every new development, someone figures out a way to
make money off of it. Yep. YouTube didn't start out YouTube is very different when
it started. I think it's enough of some sort of dating website thing and then it
wasn't every people have careers off you do - Yes!
YouTube it's everything. Well my son- in-law, he makes all his
money - well he's an artist, so he sells directly or on YouTube.
Right, I was just telling man just got my cousin is
and YouTuber and yeah, she's doing very well and it's a career for her.
It's amazing - really well. I was just back in England, just a month or so
ago, because of my daughter's wedding and it's hilarious. I've got a great-niece
who is four, gorgeous - you know curly blond hair. She's so cute and "What
do you want to be when you when you grow up, Bella?"
"I'm gonna be a YouTuber!" I mean at four! Her mum and her gran,
who was staying with me here last weekend, is not hugely computer
savvy and she'll ask Bella questions and Bella will say Gran "YouTube it" quickly and
she's four, so this is another step again. Yeah, it's fascinating to watch. Yeah,
because it's gonna happen regardless. Yeah, Yep gonna have to go with it. You
know what was my quote recently - I heard the quote, "you can't can't run a business
traditionally", it's like I can, you remember my uncle, like, running your
business "old school" is like riding a mule on the highway, actually want to be
run over - Yeah I mean, Yeah, well something along those lines, because that's like, oh -
you can see with my parents, like, to get them to - they eventually - it took forever
for them to decide to have a computer, so that they could skype with us
children. Neither my brother nor I live, you know, close by, so it took forever and
then it's still a struggle for them to even do email - like, they don't know - they just
know how to click, click, like. Then whenever there's an update, they freaked
out, because everything freezes in the house - get somebody to come in. That
learning curve seems so huge, the more you push it - yeah - I mean I was at a party
for a friend's birthday just a few weeks ago - same issue - the husband, who's been a
friend of mine for about 40 years, he said "I'm so worried when I die - his wife
happens to be a "Sue" as well - I don't know what Sue's going to do, because she refuses
to have anything to do with a computer. He's got all of his finances - everything
is organized and he says "she won't", but she will be in
trouble, if he goes first, but you know. I hope he doesn't, but I mean, that's the
reality for a lot of folks and that worries me hugely too, because the longer
you don't do it, the bigger the difference, because it's just going up
exponentially. It becomes increasingly difficult to catch up and that so that's
why I say "get on it now'. Yeah, you can create a YouTube channel, that makes your
human somebody that I don't how many experience but you can do something, you
know something, everybody needs something. Yes in one way, that someone else doesn't
know even though it's the same information, I think, is on YouTube.
That's what people are looking for - not only to learn something but - laughs - enjoy.
Like, I follow people on YouTube, who don't - they're simply people but
I've through watching them created this reality. No,
but like they've vlogs, like their daily vlogs. I I realize if I
think about it, that I'm watching them go to the grocery store and I understand
that that's kind of weird and why am I watching another person in the grocery
store, that's that's the way things are now, like this is I don't really watch
television, I watch YouTube - this is mine, this is what I do, is I I follow
these certain people, that I've become part of they're following and
it's so interesting to see just how different things have become. Once again,
like, when I was 7 to now and it's - You give hope to people that have no clue
what to do is it just basically, you're saying just record what you're doing in
your daily life and there you go. You can have your own channel, push that red
button that says fundamentally young. It doesn't matter - it's got to
the point, where it's not even just about living your dreams, and you do owe
it to yourself to live your dreams, but it's more than that. like it's
more the day to day, it's more - you just do finances - like things that are all
gonna be online and they are already and they're gonna continue and so to be
afraid of it as one thing, but to allow it to continue, you know, being a block
for yourself you're not doing yourself any favours. I wasn't that wise at 22 but
you're absolutely right and and it's interesting you should say - I mean I
haven't had a TV probably in ten years, for the same reason. Everything I watch
is YouTube and you know tailored to myself so now you can watch
channels yeah - and in fact Facebook has announced
this week it's getting into TV too, so it will having - we knew
everyone's trying to compete with Netflix now, because what news. Disney's
pulling their stuff from Netflix. They're gonna create their own streaming service
It's interesting - it is interesting that will get saturated, as well and it will
lead into a whole new - it's I mean that's why I do it, because it's such an
exciting time to be alive. There's only a few times in history - I'm a real history
buff - there's only a few times in history, where you get these dramatic changes and
we are in the middle of such a dramatic change. It is difficult for
so many people to to say "Yes, I'm on board, I'll go with it", there's
fear of the unknown, but you know I think I'll be honest we're not getting a
political discussion but it's what you're seeing politically. A lot folks
who feel they're getting left behind and feel threatened by it, but in the end
that train is trucking and it ain't going to stop, whether you are on it or not. Oh it's
fascinating. So good to get your perspective. Okay see I said I said you got wisdom in
your later years but that I see that too though. I see some unbelievable kids
today with wisdom beyond their years and I think it's because they can they can
access stuff. I think it's the access you know you choose what you want
to. There are still some people that choose to spend their time doing one
thing and there others that chooses to delve so deep into new information and
one of my pet peeves is when older generations don't take young
generations seriously, just because of their age but yeah it's like but I have
access to so much information, like, I'm not coming to you with, you know, just my
opinion. I'm coming to you with hours of research or whatever and I think that's
one problem is that everyone should be giving each other a chance. I think your
generation is not being given enough credits but the generation even that you
can argue is a testament to this new surge or this new surge of self
confidence on younger people's part. I guess maybe maybe it is
kind of vain to take a picture of yourself and post it, but that's all you
do all day, yes, there's everything needs balance, yeah exactly so yeah No, I really
actually think that the younger generation is not given enough credit
like you, I've met other younger men I chose age my dad is 67, it's just kind of
all we should say my age of public but I just see the wisdom. There's so
much more wisdom and then I didn't ever get right. I think it is because do you
have so much more access to information that we didn't have. I didn't have access
to information. You didn't have access - you have to go to school
to get it. Now in your past time what you do, you see you're following Facebook or
social media, there's an article or something else, so you're constantly
being fed information by you it's a recent life - exactly - I choose to be me by
default becomes - Well. I always think you know back, when my kids were young and
they'd ask a question around the dinner table, if we didn't know the answer, there
was nowhere to go. The
Encyclopedia Britannica man came round in 1984, when we just bought our first
computer and it was 16K and kept breaking, but he came to the door
to try to put the guilt trip on me that I needed to buy the Encyclopedia
Britannica or else I was a bad Mom. I remember saying to him - very nicely -
"I think in five years, you won't be in your job, because the
Encyclopedia Britannica is going to be online. He said "Ach, don't be daft -
not in a million years". Yeah, it'll be a historical piece, like then will be a
collectible - hugely expensive and out-of-date by the time you bought it! it
was just that this was Google -that was the idea. I think another important thing
to know is that with the younger generations as well, it's not equal
by any means, but there's more opportunity for women. It's not
so much that you have to go to school, get married, have kids and that's
a whole completely different mindset that is totally a mindset - and that opens
up so many doors for so many women and men, and it's just a different. It's much
different but I think that is because a lot more women like Sue have been coming
out, standing up you know yeah and kind of saying like, I wanted more for myself
so why don't I help people, who are going through it right now. Why should I
just sit here and sit unhappily. Why can't I be happy and in turn share
knowledge, which is what you're doing. It's awesome so I do - I want to be like both of you.
I was behind the camera now. just yes but if you've got your wisdom right now, just
think what you - you will be so wise, when you get yes is a already wise - already
wise. I mean - that's what's cool as well. With AI coming in - whether
it's good or bad - it's this continual change and this wonderful brain becomes
more - you know - I've spent 50 years playing with brains right because in Anesthesia
you're like - I say "three seconds you're gonna be
asleep - boom - and you are. It's kind of powerful - that is pretty powerful! I
know so I understand brains, but it
doesn't matter. The longer, the older I get the more in awe I am of what we can do
with our brains. There's so much potential yeah and we're just now discovering it
Just scratching the surface. It's fascinating. Now this has been awesome
Thank you! @hank you I just - kudos to you!
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