Chase: Hey guys, it's me Chaseypoo and today. I am welcomed by the beautiful Stef Sanjati.
Stef: Yes, hello I am so happy to be back on Chase's channel it has been a good several months,
And you know I'm just here to like say hi and stuff.
Chase: Yeah, we've been hanging out. We've had a meet up and it was awesome.
Stef: It's incredible. Chase: It was fantastic.
Stef: fantabulous, terrific is what I was going to say.
Chase: Today we are doing a reaction video.
Stef: Yes my first ever reaction video. Chase: Oh my god. I'm popping your cherry yeah reaction cherry.
Stef: Yeah, that's true. Chase: People have been wanting me to do reactions to so many different videos
And they keep sending me links and somebody sent me a link to a video and I was like this isn't that good
But then there was another video being reacted to I was like we have to do this.
Stef: Yes, I just want to point out the other titles of a video's by this group,
And I don't, I don't want to, I don't know if we should like name the channel because I don't want to send people to, harass them yeah.
Chase: I don't yeah
Stef: yeah, this is a Christian Channel
So I mean there's nothing wrong with being Christian. Obviously the problem that you know we would have obviously is when it starts,
Impeding on the rights of other people and not just yourself.
So other titles that these these girls have created would have been things like five modern hacks for dressing modestly.
Why Christian girls should be beautiful?
But not seductive so that's the kind of like general narrative Chase: narrative Stef: That we are about to enter so are we ready?
Chase: Let's do it. Okay. Okay? Kristin: Hey girls. It's Kristin and Bethany here with girl defined ministries and today,
We're gonna be talking about just a really light mild topic.
We're gonna be talking about the topic of gender and today's video- Chase: MILD!
Stef: Mild topic, first of all these girls are cute. Yeah pretty.
You know it's okay that they are creating their content for women, but I think the assumption you know 'hey girls',
I think it's kind of a silly assumption to make that you're only,
Why would you only want to reach out to one of your people? I mean, that's not a problem.
That's just them that's okay. Chase: I like their lighting.
Stef: Their lighting is cute and their quality Chase: But also genders not like topic. Like sorry it's such a heavy topic.
Stef: They might have been sarcastic, maybe there being sarcastic. Chase: I don't think they know what sarcasm is.
Stef: I don't know. Chase: The title of their videos, please hunty.
Kristin: And ask the question is gender a personal choice? Now- Stef: No no it's not oh we agree.
Kristin: We live in a society where this is an extremely hot button issue right now a hot button topic everyone's talking about it
Everyone's debating about it. There are people on both sides of the camps some people think yes,
It's totally a personal choice. Then there are others Who are saying no,
It's absolutely not, and then there's a third party who aren't really sure. So in this video
We really want to dive into this topic and help you understand how to think about this issue from a Christian perspective.
Bethany: So several months ago. I was talking to a little girl.
She was only maybe 9 or 10 years old this little girl grew up in a Christian Church, a Christian home,
she came from a solid upbringing, but because of the-
Chase: But because-
Stef: No hold on, I mean solid upbringing yeah, but why is it-
I mean it's not the point of this video. I don't want it-
Chase: I know what your saying. Stef: That is maybe one solid upbringing.
But I feel like she's implying that that is the only solid upbringing. That is making me feel unconfortable.
Chase: Yeah from a Christian, a Christian perspective. Stef: Yes, and that's I mean that's there are Christian perspectives of course. That's the thing, but I'm just concerned,
You know when they said oh, they said you know some people are like yes absolutely. It is a choice.
I don't think any trans people are arguing that it's a choice. No because that's the whole point and a lot of choice.
Yeah, do you think we would choose this? Chase: Why are you even having this debate right this - Stef: It's not a debate.
Stef: It's our reality. Chase: Right.
I'm hesitating here but are we gonna? Yeah.
Bethany: Questions and pressures that culture was placing on her she was having to ask some really big questions.
So I remember her big eyes looking up at me, and she was asking me about the topic of gender.
Homosexuality, transgender, all these big topics and she was asking,
"Is Gender a personal choice?" Should someone for themself be able to say well. I feel this way I feel- Chase: A nine-year-old, please.
Stef: well maybe.
But you know what that's a great thing okay?
For a child to be able to question the world around them and say,
Why are people Tran? absolutely what who are like you know and the answer is not to be like because they're bad.
You know it's maybe, oh!
I don't know you should maybe ask a trans person instead of asking me because I have no experience in this topic. Chase: Absolutely.
Bethany: Well, you know if I'm a girl, but I feel like a boy can I choose to be a boy?
And she was asking me in depth all of these different questions.
Stef: So I hold on I'm sorry for stopping this so much.
But the reality is if you are a girl.
And you feel like a boy you cannot choose to be a boy because you're not one but if you're a boy,
You're a boy just like chase is a boy, and I am a girl yeah. That's not a choice.
We made we aren't I'm not a boy that chose to be a girl. I am a girl.
I've always been a girl I was a girl when I was a kid yeah.
I didn't know it because nobody gave me access to the resources in the language. I needed to understand the way I was feeling.
Chase: It's a really good point actually. I think that's a good point. Stef: There's no choice involved here. That's a good point
Bethany: I was talking to her about it,
And I was saying you know explaining to her what the Bible said and asked Christians what our perspective should be; and she was kind
of telling you know,
I'm just not sure if I really believe that. Because if these people feel this way,
this really should be their personal choice.
And so I just remember hearing her talk about that and in realizing wow we as Christians need to,
Answer this question is gender a personal choice? Because this is something we're facing today.
In our very own cities right now. Kristin: So the question is, is gender a personal choice?
It's such a relevant question that we do need to answer, and in order to get that answer,
we actually have to dig a little bit below the surface and ask this question. Who or what is our authority source?
So if you're saying yeah, I believe genders a personal choice.
I can become a guy, I can become a girl, I can go back and forth, I can do whatever feels good in the moment.
Well, then your authority is based on your feelings.
Or maybe your authority is based on your history so whatever the cultural flow is the culture says yeah,
It's totally okay to change your gender,
It's totally okay to define redefine your gender according to what you feel like then you might say, yeah
That's my authority source and so sure I believe that's okay. That sounds good to me, but as Christians,
We have to understand that we can- Chase: I literally was waiting you're like oh, yeah
I'm like no.
No, they're about to say a but, and they're about that yeah.
Stef: And I mean I think what they're going to be saying is that their authority figure is you know the Word of God?
Right and I mean fair yeah
But you know what if you're living in the States of America or in Canada your authority is the law above all else?
It's illegal to discriminate against LGBT persons.
Then you are committing a crime or at least a minor offense. You're at least being a dick.
Chase: It's a good point.
Stef: All right, but like- Chase: let's listen okay, Kristin: right know what she said can't just go based on our feelings.
We can't base our entire understanding and worldview on such an in a serious big topic like gender.
We can't do that based on our feelings or based on what the culture is doing. Chase: so we're basing it on the Word of God.
Stef: Something that was
Millennia ago like tenth like thousands of years. I guess maybe like 2,000 years ago
We have Christians or whatever like - Chase: just disclaimer once again,
I don't care if you're religious like really there's nothing wrong with being religious.
But when you're putting it's the Word of God that tells us that gender. Stef: it can tell them yeah.
Those two people do they can live their lives embraces the Word of God
Oh you do it, but if they have a nine year old in their church
That's questioning a gender, and it's saying well. Maybe I don't believe in the Bible because I'm having these feelings yeah
They don't get to impose that upon a child especially if it's not their child.
Specially if it's not their child Chase: right Stef: like you know live by the Word of God in your own life,
But not in any way else's life. You don't stick that in anyone else's life.
Chase: Especially when it's a topic that doesn't this isn't like there's anyone addressing. They won't even in this though, right
Why are you talking about? This is this like Arielle like why are you talking about gender?
Why are you talking about Trans people right now you there's no reason why you should be talking about this. Stef: like not as an expert.
Chase: No, you don't- Stef: like of course you can talk about trans people and try to understand,
And you know you know have a conversation about the topic of trans issues
Yeah But you shouldn't be speaking on it as if you're in a authority figure on the subject as if you have,
experience on the subject. Chase: They seem to be the authority figure right now for like Christianity like and
And the Word of God so- Stef: Right, I don't mean that i'm sure they know a lot about the Word of God
Yeah, yeah entity- Chase: let's see what they say okay. Kristin: That's the other thing about gender,
we as Christian girls have to get back to God's Word. We have to get back to what he says about gender and we have
To make sure that God's Word is informing our worldview, so we set our feelings that our opinions aside
We look to God's Word first
We let his word define gender for us
And then we shape our worldview based on his word his word has to be our authority source or else we're never going to get
It right. Bethany: That's exactly right
And if you look back in scripture to the very beginning when God was creating us as humans before he had anything he basically had.
A blank slate so if you imagine a blank chalkboard slate he was going to basically
Chalk on there whatever he wanted to. He was going to create whatever he wanted to he could have created two guys, two girls,
He could have even created genderless human beings. Kristin: Anything!
Chase: Those people exist definitely I know people like that. Stef: Everybody knows people like that whether they know it or not, right?
even if you even if you don't believe and I hesitate using that word,
It's were like you don't understand genderless people there are intersex people born outside of the sex binary right so those people
Were created by God as well if you go by this site this concept right so.
God created genderless or multi gender people to make it up. Chase: Yeah, not saying that intersex people have multi gender
Bethany: Yeah able to go back and forth I mean this is the god of love create to be created the universe he could have done,
Whatever he wanted.
But what did he do in Genesis 2 we see that God created a male and a female?
Two distinct genders two equally valuable purposefully different genders, but they were very distinct it was a man
And it was a woman and when we go back.
We realize you know this topic of gender isn't really all that confusing,
if we want the Bible inform our worldview we God is very clear on this issue
It's not as confusing as the Coulter is making it seem. It's very clear one man, one woman.
We need to embrace the gender that God gave us.
Chase: You know we got we got three minutes and 44 seconds we started to I am like [unintelligible]
Stef: What what this girl is saying is that we're overthinking it. We're making it too complicated- Chase: And this is not a complicated no no
Stef: Here's the fucking thing I sorry for swearing. Chase: Oh, this is my channel don't worry. Stef: Because it is not complicated
That's what we're trying to tell you it's not complicated. It is not it is not trans people that are complicating this
We are saying let us do and be ourselves. Let us do us. Okay, you have other folks
The CIS folks. Chase: Not all CIS. Stef: We have people coming in saying you're complicating it
You're making it complicated trying to understand, and it's great. They're trying to understand, but they are the ones that are overthinking
They are the ones overcomplicating. Chase: You're adding more variables into something that's like-
Stef: That is honestly, so simple Chase: respect people. Stef: Right exactly be yourself respect others if it harms none
Do what you will yeah, that is the only rule that is as simple as it gets
You don't have to even talk about gender. It's not about gender when it comes down to it
It's about being who you are. It's about being yourself. Yeah, and- Chase: and feeling right, right
Stef: Yeah, slathering all of this on top of it is what's making it complicated, and that's not the actual issue.
Stef: Yeah, this is interesting view.
I want to keep listening absolutely Bethany: Not let our feelings
Determine where we're gonna go we have to look at Scripture and say yes, God designed a male and a female
And I am going to believe that that's what's best for me and that as my creator
He knows what's best for me, and I'm gonna embrace that.
Kristen: Yeah, exactly and another great point I went out on to that is that
Before any of us were born we have to remember the big picture that God is God
and we are not
He was here before we were even
Created and in fact the, the reason that we're even here the reason any human is here is because God chose
To create us and bring us into this world and when he created us he decided which gender
He wanted us to be he had a plan for us.
Stef: Okay, if this is the case then God chose to create transgender people.
If like you know I obviously I, I can have a Christian friend. I can have Christian partner all right.
But you know they are going to have to be able to extend that belief that God creates us all as individuals to
include trans people to include gay people to include people of all kinds of
genders and sexuality.
Chase: And it's like really hard for a lot a lot of my friends who are into religion
and yeah the
Christianity to accept that they're trans or non-binary for a long time because they feel like this. Like there's only two genders don't switch around
right God has an image for you,
Zuzia has talked about this a lot my ex I mean. They're a non-binary and they're very, very into Christianity.
And they talked about this on the podcast just a little bit where their version of whatever you are is that that's what God is
Right if you're non-binary your God is non-binary so Stef: Because God creates you in his image.
Chase: Yes Stef: Or they're image. Chase: so you would be your God would be a trans woman. Stef: honestly the closest thing
I have to God is a woman.
Chase: So that so that was an interesting concept to me
but this this is very hard for me to like put myself in their, in their, in their shoes and,
Understand because I can't understand how someone
else created everything and we need to follow this plan that this person that we don't know what the plan is and
There there's already a plan for us already, and it's not we can't even talk about our feelings. I'm like
I mean my whole life at me is I need to do what feels right for me.
Stef: That's the healthiest way to live yeah, and that's what concerns me
Honestly is like I'm worried that these girls, and if not these girls
Maybe their children if they have children
Are going to be living in a way where they believe their feelings are not important that they believe what they feel their mental health?
are not important things and that they have to do what they're told that they have to be complacent that they have to obey and
You know I can put myself in their shoes. I can't put myself in a religious perspective
I grew up in a very religious community, and I've learned a lot about it and
I've listened to a lot of perspectives and the best way for me to
Say, this is like I used to yeah, I used to believe there were two genders
And I used to believe that we were you know we were
You know made male or female and that was a you know a set up path
But even if you believe there is a set up path that set up path is whatever you are doing in that moment
It's whatever your future is based on your current actions. Yeah, it is not something that you can't control
Yeah, it is what you're meant to do
Chase: Interesting Stef: which is your feeling yeah, Chase: it's an interesting perspective about gender. Yeah hmm
Kristin: He has a plan for our lives,
And so if you're a woman God designed you the creator of the universe loves you so much that he hand
Crafted you to be a woman so that you could honor and glorify him as a woman if he created you to be a man
He handcrafted you intentionally to be a man
so you could glorify God in your manhood.
So when we understand our God to find genders as a male and female and we embrace those and live those out that is where we're gonna find
True fulfillment in our gender and in- Chase: ok yo! We aren't being fulfilled
because we switch it up. Stef: what you see, what she descried is the feeling of
Completeness after transition feeling fulfilled by living out your gender that is literally trans people.
Chase: I know, but they want us to live the gender that God handcrafted us how Stef: God have crafted me as a woman right?
Chase: But they don't they- Stef: not well they don't know me, right.
Chase: I know you.
Kristin: Our lives as humans because we're embracing and living out who God the God of the universe,
Created us to be so that takes us back to our original question is gender or personal choice?
Well I think the Bible makes it very clear that gender is not a personal choice.
It's a God choice, and he gave me
Chase: This is interesting because we both agree that it's not- Stef: we both agree, Chase: but you are on the different side,
Stef: But the thing is what they are doing they're just missing a little point. Chase: yeah
Stef: They're just missing the they're missing the concept like I think they think trans people choose this that it's fun that
We're like oh I want to be a woman. You know- Chase: I want to be discriminated against, Stef: but it's not even about that
But it's like I think these girls if they understood that trans people do not choose
To be trans that we don't join us this yeah, yeah, I know many, many Christian people and people all faiths.
Islam, pagan religions, whatever. Who understand that because trans people do not choose their gender.
They are living faithfully to themselves unto whatever God, Chase: which is what's important Stef: by being themselves. That's what you need being yourself
Chase: Yeah I is living authentically.
Stef: Right Chase: and for them to be most godly thing you can do but for them being authentic is living with God's image and okay
Yeah, yeah, yeah for sure yeah, but just you know don't talk about trans we have two minutes
Do you think they gonna talk about trans people?
Stef: Yes. Chase: okay. Bethany: Each one of us are gender on the day that he created us inside our mother's womb
And so it's not a personal choice.
It's something that God decides for us.
And if we are willing to embrace it, embrace
The gender that he gave us and really live it out according to his word, in his design for womanhood and manhood ultimately
That's where we will find the most satisfaction the most peace the most joy.
Which is really honestly what we're all searching for so we don't need to look to the cultures ways
We don't need a phone in the cultural norm. We need to say gender is not a personal choice
It's a God choice, and I'm going to choose to believe that despite what the culture is doing.
Stef: EXACTLY!
Chase: I like really like looking with my mouth open.
And I want someone to make a gif of that. Have you going like like this, and I'm just like
Stef: They are literally saying the exact same thing that I would say gender is not a choice. You need to disregard cultural norms
You need to disregard the societal norms. You have to do what feels what,
What is you you have to do you you have to be the way you remain you have to be yourself you have to be
The person you are yeah
We are saying the exact same things the only discrepancy is that they are under the impression
the incorrect assumption that we choose to be a gender.
That's the only reason these girls are not good with trans folks the only reason. Chase: It hurts.
Stef: But do you think that they would listen to us, and why were trying to be telling this to us.
Chase: They look like people that could listen.
But they would still be all like they would it would still be all about God any- Stef: but you know what that's okay
That's the thing it's not about us to be limit like- Chase: I think that he would like
She's got I think that they would still be they would still have the same view here
But I think that they would be open to listening to us instead of they wouldn't be like like
One of those people were you like call them out, and they're like oh no I do that
Maybe like oh let me listen to you. Stef: I think that what um--
-you know I-
-really hope,
That maybe they see this video, and they they hear what we're saying and they understand or they at least think about it.
Chase: Yeah, Stef: because we agree yes on every point. Chase: you're like the same page like we're the same book different page or something,
Different whatever I don't know page different books. Stef: Same book different chapter. Chase: Yeah, same page different book.
because the God
Stef: I'm even saying yeah
You know that if you believe in a creator that creator created us to be. For me to be a woman,
Yes, that is why I'm a woman. Yeah. I'm continuing yes.
Thanks so much for watching this video that wraps up the big topic of gender if you liked it
We love it if you give us a thumbs up if you want to see more videos from us
Subscribe to us and also we'd love to hear your thoughts
Comments and questions on this topic we know it's a big one
We know it creates a lot of questions, and so we go Chase: did they say it's a like topic it. Okay. Yeah, all right well.
Thank you for joining me. Stef: Thank you for having me Chase. Chase: This is interesting. It's interesting to
React with someone else to have someone else's views at the same actually enjoy it. Stef: Yeah, I don't like reacting by myself.
I've tried before and I just feel like I'm like angry by myself. Yeah, I feel good.
Chase: Yeah, it's different when you're two people because- Stef: I'm not I'm here by myself. I'm not even angry no, no like this is different.
Chase: Yeah, it was an interesting video.
I'm not like I'm not like all riled up like I've been when I've done other
Reaction videos where I'm just like all sassy with my chapstick
Stef: Oh, that's because these girls aren't really coming from a bad place. No they just don't understand. Yeah a very simple misunderstanding here
Chase: There's a disconnect.
Stef: There's a little just I don't know why they think that we choose this, but that's the only that's the only disconnect here
And if they understand that we don't choose our gender that we are our gender yeah
everything could be solved. Chase: I think about that.
Stef: I hope that one day they understand. Chase: I hope so too. Anyways. Thank you so much for joining us um
I had a lot of fun. Thank you, and if you have any other videos that you'd like me to
Respond to tweet me, but make sure that you watch it first and let me know if it's worth
Reacting to or like if you know that it's worth react to do because some people have sent me like like I tried to react
To the Laci green red pill thing, the red anime watch. And like I filmed half of it.
I was like this is I can't this boring like the too many genders when it was boring. I'm bored yeah.
yeah, so do that and I'll see you guys later, and oh
Please go look at Stef's channel.
Yes, cuz she's great, and she makes she makes good videos.
And we've talked about things on her channel that are really yeah fantastic. I love you guys. Have a great day. Bye
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