On this episode of China Uncensored,
when terrorists becomes propaganda.
Hi, welcome to China Uncensored,
I'm your host Chris Chappell.
If you've been watching this show
you've heard about Xinjiang in western China.
It's home to the Uyghur ethnic minority,
where more than a million people
and by some estimates 3 million people
have been put into re-education camps.
And forced to violate their religion
and their children put into orphanages.
So to learn more, I went down in Washington DC to speak with Nuri Turkel.
He's a Uyghur laywer and human rights activist.
Thank you very much for joining us today.
Thank you so much for having us.
So what is life like for Uyghur in Xinjiang.
it must be pretty safe I hear there's lots of Chinese police around.
It is very safe,
probably the safest place in entire China,
maybe in the world.
The Chinese government is pouring in with a mindset of making Uyghurs feel safe,
to build lots of security apparatus.
The streets are full of cameras,
the Chinese government wants to make sure that your phone is not hacked,
so they run it through data scan.
And they force you to do.
Yeah, and they wanted to take your DNA samples
to make sure that you don't have any terminal illness.
Yeah what is up with that DNA sampling?
They're different ways of explaining...the Chinese motive.
One is
they wanted to establish a database,
for this new system that they're building up to monitor their its citizens.
And the second possible reason is that
they wanted to engage in some bio engineering in the future.
Like create a super Uyghur?
Super Uyghur,
maybe European looking ethnically Chinese looking Uyghur
who appreciates this universally accepted Chinese culture,
speak Chinese, talk like Chinese
act like a Chinese, think like a Chinese.
Wait seriously, is that something they're trying they can do with DNA?
I think that scientifically that's possible.
It's absurd.
And Chinese is very capable when it comes to that kind of technological advantages.
Well when you don't have a state that's answerable to the people
you can get a lot of science done.
The Chinese government have invested
a substantial of money in the recent development .
And in addition to taking advantage of American, European inventions
by forcing companies doing business to share business intelligence,
and the technological inventions.
The second reason is the Chinese government
has been using the technological advantages and resources that they have
to increase their state security apparatus.
Eventually turning it turning the country into Orwellian society on the steroids.
And so a lot of this is technology that's coming from the West.
Technology is supposed to be helping to make our lives better.
But to the Chinese government's benefit,
it's making the Chinese government much more secure,
particularly seep Communist Chinese Chinese Communist Party
and Xi Jinping's China.
So would you call Xinjiang a surveillance state?
It is a trick question, it's an autonomous region.
It's surveillance state in the way that
the Chinese want to make sure that
people are happy smiling chanting
and renouncing denouncing their ethnic identity religious belief,
and waking up to worship - Xi Jinping instead of their God.
So by doing that, they wanted to surveil people,
monitor people's private lives
in addition to installing barcodes on the doors
and randomly checking your phones
making you go through iris scans.
In some instances,
they the Chinese government so concerned that
some Uyghur may have a bad dream at night
so they sent the Chinese cadres to sleep in Uyghur bedrooms
to make sure that they will not wake up in the middle of night,
afraid of the Xi Jinping's regime.
Oh I can't imagine that being abused in any way.
So I want to ask about the political re-education camps in Xinjiang.
So at first Communism Party denied that they existed.
Now they're saying that
local governments can educate and transform extremists
in these vocational training centers.
It sounds very lovely.
Two thoughts.
One, the entire world, I would call civilized world
believe that the Chinese government will come out after UN report
and apologize to the Uyghur people
and bring justice to those officials who committed this heinous crime.
I think the the civilized world is very disappointed
that they haven't seen such a decency.
Forgetting that authoritarian dictatorship
the ones that in Beijing
and known for conflating, denying and confusing.
So, people should not be surprised
that the Chinese government initially denied.
So what they doing now is to say that
in order to achieve their conversion programs,
basically converting the Uyghurs from who they are to something that they're not,
and claiming that they are providing this vocational training programs
as if that those Uyghurs willbe trained
and sent to coastal cities towork in a foreign assembly last .
May be the Uyghur will be making your iPhone's
after finishing the re-education camps.
So what is life like in a re-education camp?
The life in reeducation camps
is exactly the way how the Chinese design it and want it to be.
You spend half of your day
with like flag raising ceremony,
singing Chinese Communist Party songs
and phrasing Xi Jinping's ruling in a way that you worshiped spiritually.
And then you have very basic meal
and then an afternoon you watch anti separatist movies, videos,
go through indoctrination programs.
So that's a typical daily routine based on personal accounts
by those who were detained.
But the Chinese government calls that re-education.
Reeducation means you get up in the morning,
you have nothing but to please your jailers,
the guys with the black uniform machine guns and helmet walking around
as you've seen on the pictures in barbed wire compounds.
So and then the Chinese want you to,
despite your age,
despite the environment that you grow up
despite what your appreciate in life,
you gradually or by force, accept the Chinese way of life,
the one problem that they, both government and some people in China
have a problem where there have a difficulty to grow up
as if there are preference in life
culturally, linguistically as something universal
as such the Uyghurs should accept.
And become one of them.
So us against them mentality has been...
has been in practice in Chinese society,
quietly encouraged by the Chinese government controlled state media.
Well I mean that's sort of how the Communist Party has ruled all of China,
always making certain groups the enemy class
that you do have to struggle against.
So why is the Communist Party targeting Uyghurs?
There are three possible reasons.
For the Chinese government to implement
and this Nazi Germany like policies,
some people think that we got to be careful with the terminology
but if you look at the legal definition of cultural genocide,
what the Chinese government has been undertaking purposefully systematically
fits into the definition.
A reason that people may disagree
But there's no other way of seeing
what they have been doing it as crimes against humanity
and cultural genocide.
Why are they doing it?
One, this is all about China's global ambition,
Xi Jinping announced this international project
called One Belt One Road initiative,
that expands to more than 70 countries.
Of those 70 countries, seven of them
have borders with Uyghur ethnic ancestral homeland East Turkestan.
So when you look at the map from the China proper all the way to Central Asia,
you got to go through this big landmass,
which is four times the size of California.
Of course this is unstated, Chinese never admit this is part of their objectives.
But to some Chinese strategists or party leaders or people who advises Xi Jinping,
the area must be fully controlled.
Otherwise China's global ambition will be hampered.
Number one.
Number two, this has a lot to do
with Xi Jinping's ability to keep China together.
So there's a thing called the domino effect,
the Chinese leader believed that
if East Turkestan - a Uyghur homeland gets out of hand,
it will affect negatively to other China related areas
such as Tibet, Taiwan, Hong Kong.
So it's a self-fulfilling prophecy
that as long as that region that people stays as they are
will eventually will pose political threat.
And number three
this third reason that some people are uncomfortable talking
has a lot to do with racism.
In Chinese society as well as the Chinese government's
way of conducting business
or implementing policies often time tell us
that they have a lot of racially motivated policies being implemented
They started with banning the Uyghur language,
restricting female individuals
children under age of 12, students from entering mosque
the human rights organizations,various governments were complaining about that.
And now Chinese government under Xi Jinping's leadership
believe that Uyghur ethnic background is is a kind of tumor.
And religious belief is mental disease.
So for fair-minded people
I don't think this requires any explanation
it's pretty evident if you look through the history books,
you see very similar mindset calling somebody's ethnicity religion
as something that needs to be eradicated.
So it is inconceivable in the 21st century in 2018,
we have a conversation about China
that is systematically purposefully criminalizing the entire nation
because of their ethnicity and because of their religious belief.
I might add the Uyghurs have been practicing Islam
as early as 12 13th century.
So whoever's advising Xi Jinping or unknowing if it is his idea
this policy will eventually fail.
it's not gonna work.
It may work for a small group of people.
It may create a long long lasting emotional psychological damages
to both the Uyghurs inside and outside of China.
But strategically this is not gonna work
this will create more resentment
and strong anti colonial sentiment among the Uyghurs people
wherever you can find them.
So after 9/11 the Communist Party stopped calling Uyghur
separatists and started using the term terrorists.
Why?
The Chinese government thought after 9/11
that the world will be turned against Islam
and there will be a war because this country was attacked
and to the Chinese government, it sounds like it seems like
their long waited opportunity just arriving.
Because in the past,
the Chinese government tried to justify their harsh policies
with respect to rigorous cultural and religious freedom
by saying that they are extremists
but Uyghurs by nature very moderate Muslim.
The word terrorism does not even exist in the Uyghur dictionary.
So the Chinese government were very effective
and in its opportunistic approach,
Two weeks after 9/11,
Chinese party secretary for the local government
came out said our China is also a victim of terrorism.
At the same time in a central government level, in a diplomatic effort
they find an opportunity to get on board
on Intelligence Sharing purposes of war on terrorism.
Because of its intimate relationship with Pakistan,
and Pakistan being the one of the few countries
recognized Taliban regime along with Saudi Arabia and others
were in a good position
to obtain some valuable intelligence and share it with the United States
So because of that opportunity,
United States were kind of willing to work with the Chinese
because this country was not expected that level of that magnitude of attack.
In 2009, there was a turning point in the modern Uyghur history
there was a Uyghur took to the streets to protest
and Chinese responded with its security
and resulting in, not only ethnic clash but deaths and injuries.
That has been widely reported
and then some people think that this was the wake-up call for the Chinese
to implement even much more aggressive policies.
Thank you very much for joining us today.
If people would like to learn more about you or the Uighur cause
where can they go?
They should visit three main websites.
One is you UHRP.org, which stands for Uyghur human rights project.
And also UyghurAmerican.org
that is the website for Uyghur Association
And also world Uyghur congress website UyghurCongress.org.
Those are the three Uyghur organizational websites.
But I also encourage people to read the reports done by Human Rights Watch
and congressional executive committee on China
which just published a new report a couple days ago.
So they're there a wealth of information available publicly
So, I might say that the narrative,
the narrative that are supported by evidentiary information
is overwhelming.
Well, thank you again for joining us and sharing the story of the Uyghurs
Thank you so much.
I hope you enjoyed this interview but there's actually much more
to learn about the situation the Uyghurs are facing inside of China.
Fortunately I had Nuri on the China Unscripted podcast.
If you listen to the podcast,
you will learn more about the Uyghur people,
their concerns and difficult times that they go through
under the leadership of China's Superman Xi Jinping.
Ah, the Superman.
I put a link below be sure to check it out you won't regret it
For more infomation >> МУЛЬТИКИ ПРО МАШИНКИ все серии подряд! Развивающие мультики для детей - сборник мультфильмов 2018. - Duration: 22:11. 
For more infomation >> Người Nhện Đi Tham Quan Nhận Biết Củ Lạc Hay Quả Lạc | Games For Kids - Duration: 10:15. 
For more infomation >> Bạn Biết Đến Thiên Đường Đệ Nhất Động Phong Nha Quảng Bình !You Know To The First Heavenly Phong Nha - Duration: 10:37. 
For more infomation >> なみだ雲 ／ 川野夏美 cover by Shin - Duration: 3:49. 
For more infomation >> ЗА КАДРОМ - Я ТАЙНО ПОПАЛ В ВИДЕО АИДА И ДЕМАСТЕРА! НЕ КЛИКБЕЙТ! - Duration: 10:07. 
For more infomation >> Messerbau Folge 31 - Damastmesser Teil 3 - Duration: 8:56. 
Không có nhận xét nào:
Đăng nhận xét