good evening everyone any kind of ISM consumerism or whatever kind any kind of
isn't will lead to a certain mindlessness so mindless consumerism is
definitely not towards human wellbeing there 2000 industry focus on creating
conscious consumer rather than mindless consumerism because consumption used to
be a disease you know it's taxable so even now it's a kind of an ailment that
is we will not do in our lives we will not do what's needed we will do what is
expected from somebody this means your life completely derails
people who expect whatever they expect out of you they themselves do not know a
damn thing about their lives to fulfill their expectations if you live obviously
you will completely go off the track so I feel the industry should focus on
creating a more conscious consumer and a more conscious every kind ISM means a
certain mindlessness simply doing something once this sets in to a society
a mindless society will go in cycles not really getting anywhere nothing profound
will live in that society everything becomes profane right now we are rapidly
trying to go there this is a nation this is a culture where every aspect of life
simple or otherwise everything had a deeper rooting everything had always a
deeper meaning simple things how to sit how to stand how to eat everything
always had a deeper connotation because of this
no matter what kind of Riker's outside situation offered us in in the form of
innovations in the form of exterminations of certain kind famines
whatever king the spirit of India lived on undisturbed because of a very deep
rooting if you take away this deeper rooting in a human being and make him
very you know somebody who who lives out of a mall these people will get
shattered very easily you must understand this till recently till last
2025 years 20 years I would say the number of people who are psychologically
deranged in this country is extremely low I know there are a whole lot of
argument and debates or that is because it's not recorded that is because it is
not documented that is also a fact undeniable it is there but still for 1
billion people how many people are psychologically deranged is extremely
small simply because of this deeper rooting into every simple thing has a
deeper meaning and the deeper possibility today because he brought up
the issue of women and children and whatever the statistics say that 42
percent of women in United States of America or 45 years of age are all on
antidepressants if you take away a few medical formulations from the market
half the population will go crazy that's what it means that's not a healthy
society in many ways that is a product of mindless consumerism that is after
having seen that happening to one society if we do not learn from that we
for sure mindless whatever kind of ism you follow ISM means mindlessness
it's very important that human societies function out of their intelligence not
just out of external tendencies that are going on right now they will come and go
home there will be a certain segment of society which does that but pushing the
larger segment of society into that kind of a more clearly shows we are not
interested in the well-being of human beings we just want to sell something at
any cost and above all if you go by consumerism the only way you can sustain
this is you're determined to keep 1/2 of the population in abject poverty because
if 7.2 billion people who live on this planet have to have a life in terms of
consumerism an average American citizen has the living at statistic says that we
need four and a half planets to sustain this we only have half a planet left one
half is already taken with half a planet you are marketing for four and a half
planets this is a dangerous process the only way you can do this is one half of
the population should be kept in abject poverty so that others can go in
consumerism binge I think a more sensible way of living is possible this
does not mean you do not enjoy your life this does not mean you have don't have
things everybody can have what they need everybody can have what they can use but
just for the sake of satisfying somebody else's opinion who himself is mindless
if you go about digging up the planet because whether you take a phone or a
car or a spacecraft you can only dig it out of this planet we're going to dig
the Mars that's different but right now whether you make a safety pin or the
biggest machine on the planet you have to dig dirt I'm not trying to
render a an ecological message I'm talking about human beings this is like
the proverbial a punch it into the story where a man is sitting on the wrong side
of the branch and cutting it if he succeeds he will fail that's not good
if you succeed if you're going to fail this is happening successful people on
the planet not so much in India at it will come in
the Western world the most successful people do not carry the most joyful
faces okay they carry really tense and agitated faces so now we are sending out
a message to the younger generation success is suffering this is a very
wrong message if you do this what happened in the 60s in America will
happen everywhere the message was so clear that success is not worthwhile so
the younger generation chose they thought it's better to street sit on the
street side and smoke pot definitely it's at least we're happy that's the
philosophy of the youth that will come everywhere if you send out this message
that success is suffering success is the sweetest thing in human life it doesn't
matter whether we do small things or big things success is the most important
thing if success becomes suffering if a society gets this message that society
is for sure down the drain Society so consumerism creating a conscious
consumer who can pick and choose what he wants is different but mindless
consumerism is definitely pushing us in that direction I would I know all the
advertising Giants are here I would please request you in the
interest of your children and the future of the nation and the world it's very
important how we promote this
spiritualism also has an ism against if it's an ism that is also mindless where
do you see the balance see when the bar is set rolling today I'm sure that if I
was to replace some of the mothers out here that refrain from pushing your
child into this that the other I'm sure all of you'll throw me out of the house
because the ball has got rolling there are other students in the class they
want their child to be better than the others so the question then is no only
till they're 12 years of age after that they're doing their own thing
true but I'm saying that if in a society which around the world is moving in that
direction what are the few suggestions that you would give to people to try and
bring that sense of balance that you're talking about India still largely the
parents are still pushing their children towards a certain educational
qualification because survival is still a strong force accepting as a thin
veneer of society which has gone beyond survival the larger part of India is
still striving for survival in most families still somehow get to the
engineer and get to the medicine get to a something because survival survival
mode is still strong that should not last forever but when a conscious mode
comes when survival is not the big issue when conscious mode comes at least now
there are no compulsions when survival mode was on there is a certain
compulsion everybody became doctors whether they liked it or not everybody
becomes IT engineer whether they like it or not because survival but once the
survival mode is over the the blessing of being beyond survival can
sans is that you can choose you want to create another level of compulsiveness
this is madness this is sheer madness when survival is in question everything
is by compulsion the dictates of survival will determine what you should
do and what you should not do or what you can do or what you cannot do where
if you will escape that but once the dictates of survival are gone you're off
the survival mode this is the time when you should consciously choose this is
not a time to imitate other people this is not a time to take mass decisions
this is a time individual people can flower because their sense of human life
is that individual human beings can grow to their full potential if that doesn't
happen you have degraded the humanity you have taken away the possibility of
what those individual human beings could be our education systems are still in
that mode these education systems were created so that you could be a cog in
the larger machinery of Industry or business or whatever they have created
reducing a human being into your cog who serves a certain machine is once again
only significant as long as survival is in question once that's taken care of in
a society it should not exist but unfortunately we try to fix them into a
different machine when you have children you must understand first of all you
must understand children don't belong to you
they don't come from you they only come through you you must understand the
privilege that another life passes through you and becomes real you must be
always grateful and see it as a privilege this is not a time to exercise
your right of property he's not your property an individual human being
cannot be your property it is not for you to fulfill all your unfulfilled
dreams through your children yes it is not for you to drive them in any
particular harness them in any particular way no
does it mean to say you just leave them so the question is if I don't influence
them somebody else on the street will influence him somebody else in the
school will influence him so better I influence him in terms of the best thing
you could do with your children is it's okay we're going off the advertising
track we'll come back to that when you when you have children one thing is the
moment a child arrives a whole lot of parents think it's time to teach I want
to ask you a simple question between you and your child if the child is below ten
years of age between you and your child who is more joyful you or the child the
child then you please tell me who should be a consultant for life the miserable
one or the joyful one so in the process of so-called growing up people have
become so rigid they smile once in five days
laughter happens when they get drunk only only drunken laughter you hear you
don't hear simple joyful laughter in many places so they have become like
this when a child comes unknowingly without knowing why you laugh you crawl
under the sofa you do this and that you learn to throw a ball properly you do
things things which concern life which would have never done by yourself simply
because this bundle of joy is arrived in your family and it's a privilege it's
not for you to shape it and twist it and make it like you or not make it like you
your business is only to protect it from every influence this is the best thing
you can do people keep asking me said guru how is it that a whole range of
things you can do and you know how is it so the thing is I remain uneducated it's
not an easy task I want you to understand because from the first moment
you are born your parents teachers adults just about everybody in the world
is trying to teach you a whole lot of things that never worked in their lives
yes they're even telling you where God lives his address his children
children's names his birth today everything they know but they don't know
a damn thing about themselves so a whole lot of things if you can keep your child
just the way he was born and active intelligence no conclusions you would do
the best thing for him believe me but you won't agree because he would like to
influence him with is advertisement a difficult thing where do you draw the
line between survival and Judaism like for instance in our country
there's a whole lot of emerging rule middle class where do did or denied
they're looking at you they're looking at your cards
so how do you where do you draw the line what is survival I think it was survival
when a man lived in a cave then he wanted some more air so he made a window
then slowly made a garden then he made bedrooms and bathrooms where does it end
now do you call it consumerism or do you call it
betterment of lifestyle or where is it stop I don't know
see right now our standards have become like this everybody wants to do what
America does if all the Americans put carbon dioxide in their water and drink
it everybody drinks it and say so this is the real thing
even a kindergarten child knows this body does well with oxygen not with
carbon dioxide if all the Americans wear only blue trousers everybody in the
world across the world in blue trousers if all if all if all the Americans tear
their pants in their knees everybody tears their pants in their knees and
walks around so knowingly or unknowingly we have promoted America to a leadership
position so because we're just imitating that we need to understand America
evolved as a nation in a completely different kind of geography in a
different kind of atmosphere the people who went as the first today they called
us of what the fathers of founding fathers or whatever these were not the
elite of United Kingdom these were not the most educated people who were
treated very badly segregated in many ways who could not have a good life here
risked their lives to go across the oceans it's not like today of few
hundred years ago going at across Atlantic is as good as leaving the world
people took that risk because the life here was so bad and so without
possibility so when these people went the first thing is they saw a lush
limitless land for somebody who lived on a small island America and North America
is a limitless amount of land so they went and the only way was to splurge
everything from water to land agriculture everything that they built
they built supersize because they were just working out their poverty states
that they had there this happens in every society but unfortunately that
culture grew in the same way and the whole world is taking to it is it right
or wrong I am NOT questioning the morality of it I am only questioning the
practicality of it I am NOT saying which is right which is wrong
but I can leave whichever way they want so if all of us want to live whichever
way we want at least we must have this much in the beginning of 20th century
we were only 1.6 billion people today we have 7.2 billion people the United
Nations predicts that by 2050 we'll be nine point six billion people if we
really want to splurge and do whatever we want at least we must reduce our
population as a generation if you do not produce children at least that way you
can do your consumerism whatever you want you want billions of people to grow
and then consume this is suicide this is nothing else but suicide so
instead of leaving it to the predictions and saying by 2050 we'll be close to 10
billion people if we consciously aim by 2050 we'll be 3.5 billion people not by
killing anybody just by postponing the reproduction process if you do that you
know you don't have to express so much concern about what individual people are
doing and another thing is if people are little there is more space in the world
the need to imitate somebody will be much less this is happening because we
are all cramped up in one place what somebody does immediately affects us and
suddenly we look higher low so we have to upgrade our stuff to immediately if
there was little more space you will see the whole consumerism process will come
down there is all packed up in cities like this in one apartment houses there
are 500 people living if one kid carries this one everybody wants to carry that
one little more space would do that but that space is only possible if you work
in the population right now this whole discussion we are trying to work on
human aspirations we will never succeed these only I'm talking but we will never
succeed you cannot control human aspirations but you can control human
population for sure now I think a lot of us are
confronted with this kind of question very often by more evolved people that
advertising actually promotes considerable consumerism what is your
take on that because I personally believe if somebody is making something
and somebody is willing to buy something then we are doing a fairly good job I I
don't believe advertising is the basis of consumerism probably sensible
advertising definitely creates a conscious consumer maybe I don't know
much about this looking at the I only look at the news channels so looking at
the retiring process in the news channels I would say only about 15 to 20
percent is kind of mindlessly pushing people towards something others are more
trying to create a choice that one can choose 15% is not going to be so
corrupting it used to be commissioned earlier not coming to advertising you
are a master communicator yourself and I think it's our opportunity for you for
us to hear your views because you actually don't even have a physical
product and yet there are millions over running after you to get don't know
you're a master communicator or at least can say hello would you like
my specs see nice pecs better than that ones so I've got something to sell you
have nothing tangible physical not not tangible physical
I appreciate the correction so brilliantly now where I am relating this
question to our part of the world is that there is I have going to be on that
how you say it is as important as what you say whereas in our business there
are many people particularly clients please listen carefully who are only
interested in the what and they sell quick why don't you reduce this scenario
this is not selling the product whereas some of us believe out here that the how
is more as important if not more important than the word now you have
said so many things and said them so beautifully you are a master storyteller
so can we hear your views on the what and the how
can I tell you a story Shankaran Pillai
Shankaran Pillai was a compulsive bridge player every day in the evening he and
four of his friends gathered and every day they played bridge and they played
for money some stakes and that day the stakes went up one of the friends in a
single hand Lao lost $1,000 and in two minutes he clutched his heart had a
heart attack fell there right there and died so all
the remaining four friends $2 they played the game standing out of respect
for the departed friend
then after the game was over now somebody has to convey this news to his
wife so nobody wanted to do this so they picked Lots and then Shankaran Pillai
got the thing they picked the cards and he got it so he had to go they said see
you have to do this well you have to do this really discreetly this is not like
you just go and say you your husband is dead you cannot say that you have to say
properly Shankaran Pillai said don't worry I am
really discretion itself I'm the embodiment of discretion you don't worry
about me so he went went home and not on the door
the wife came and she opened the door with the security chain and asked what
aggressive he said you know I am a friend of your husband all the more what
so he said your husband lost $1,000 in a single hand today she screamed at him
ask him to drop dead I will convey the message to him fantastic so now how you
say it is most important it's more important than what you say many times
because what you say even if it's the most profound thing can be misunderstood
and distorted in no time in other people's minds great things have caused
enormous damage to people and the larger humanity simply because of the way it's
been set the religions of the world have caused much damage to humanity much
bloodshed and much pain more pain than anything else on the planet probably
simply because of the way it's been said what has been said is not really the
problem the way it's been said has caused all this pain and suffering so
how you say it is extremely important first of all we need to understand when
we say something if you speak whether you're in the advertising business or
otherwise if you speak you must if you make it this way that your speech is
about the people or the person that you're talking to right now
it's not about you if you are a compulsive speaker that you must speak
then it's a different kind of ailment but if you are if you say I am
communicating what does it mean it's about the person the way they get it
not about the way I say it the way they want to get it is most important so if
you understand this one thing whenever you speak it is always about the person
who is sitting in front of you it's not about you
then you will say it well I wanted to hear it from you but they
don't listen to me that brings me to on the how in our business how is actually
the area of emotions and the product is the area of practical I actually read
something if tears of love joy and ecstasy have not washed your cheeks you
are yet to taste life I want you to elaborate on that the role of emotion
the how in communication if you right now if you're walking out the hall and
if you see somebody standing there tears coming the normal conclusion in a
society like this would be maybe they're suffering something some pain some
suffering tears and pain have gotten too linked up in most societies tears have
nothing to do with pain if any experience of life becomes truly intense
tears will come but for most human beings the deepest experience that they
have is pain so they have linked pain and tears together
if you become very joyful tears will come if you become very loving tears
will come ecstasy will bring tears even anger brings tears shame brings tears if
anything crosses a certain level of intensity of experience if you just look
at something if a visual image without any emotion is very intense tears will
come it is not necessary there must be an emotion behind it it is the intensity
which brings tears if you are not known life in its as much intensity as
possible if life has not overwhelmed you who what the hell what are you doing
here if life and the process of life does not overwhelm you why are we alive
really if aliveness has touched you you will
see if you if you sit in a certain state of meditativeness just the peacefulness
if you sit for two hours two hours it will be just going it is not because of
any emotion just the intensity of peacefulness but for most people they
love their joy the peacefulness is never so intense but their pain is intense if
you just prick yourself with a pin it goes to the core but the joy and other
things never touch like that because that is how people have structured
themselves this is what needs to change are you here to experience life or are
you here to avoid life this is a question with the there are two
fundamental forces that are constantly working within a human being one is the
instinct of self-preservation which is always telling you to put a strong
boundary around yourself that nobody can hurt you in harm you and whatever else
another is constantly wanting to expand every human being wants to expand
limitlessly they may not admit it right now they said just one more thing if it
happens everything will be fine if that one thing happens there will always be
one more thing and one more thing they believe in going towards the infinite in
installments approaching the infinite in installments is a hopeless method it is
never going to happen you cannot count one two three four five and one day say
it's in finite such a possibility does not arise if you want to approach the
infinite you must give up the one two three four five but the security of one
two three four five keeps people like this this is a mode where you have
gotten into your mode as to how to avoid life we
cause some experience of life your own or somebody else's has brought pain so
the best thing is to insulate yourself from life itself because life is the
source of pain you will notice this if at any time I have seen people I never
had a first-hand experience of these things fortunately because this has
always been my problem my parents my father always worried he
would say what will happen to this boy he has no fear in his heart
I never thought fear was a virtue why is fear a virtue
fear is the most debilitating emotion that a human being can go through but
that is considered a virtue even if you say divine even if you say
God you become god-fearing isn't it because somebody is out there to do
something to you all the time so we have thought fear will make life safe no the
only thing that makes your life safe is your sense not fear not fear will avoid
life if you become fearful the first thing that happens to you is you become
reckless because the boundary that you have established he is so effective now
even to breathe it becomes difficult you are in a cubicle where you cannot
breathe by yourself the first sign of paranoia is always breathlessness
because if you have to live you have to transact what the tree exhales you must
inhale what you exhale the tree must inhale the person may be your
mother-in-law is sitting next to you you hate her but what she exhales you must
inhale otherwise it's not going to work these boundaries are there only in your
psychological space the life space is not like that today modern physics is
telling you as you sit here every subatomic particle in this body is
reverberating with everything else in the cosmos it is no more a philosophy it
is an established science and this is something that we have
always known when we utter the word yoga because most of the yoga that you're
seeing today in India is rebound from the American coast so yoga means
contorting your body in some a impossible physical posture no the word
yoga means Union you experience lean oh that this existence is happening as one
whole enormous process so there's one dimension of you which is instinct of
self-preservation which wants to draw boundaries another dimension wants to
limitlessly expand are these two things against each other
contradict each other no one is concerned with the physicality the other
is concerned with the remaining part of who you are
whatever that is only the physical needs a boundary in fact the fundamentals of
physicality is a defined boundary you can call this a physical body only
because it has a boundary if I remove the boundaries of this body you cannot
call it physical anymore because the fundamental and the basis of physicality
is a defined boundary but there is something within you which is always
longing to be little more than who you are right now yes or no whoever you may
be how much ever you might have achieved you want to be little more than who you
are right now your currencies may be different one
person may be looking for fame another person may be looking for money another
person for wealth love knowledge whatever but everybody wants to be
something more if that's something won't happen something more I'm asking how
much more would settle you for good if you understand that the only way you can
settle this is this does not want something more it wants it all if you
won't have all it can't be physical in nature so if you realize this and if
your experience of life transcends the limitations of the physical now suddenly
all is yours because it is the boundary which made
you feel that you have to conquer that either you can conquer that or you can
dissolve into it conquering the cosmos is a stupid idea
isn't it dissolving into the cosmos is a
practical idea so this is what Yoga meant if this happens in the inner
experience of the human being that you feel limitless within yourself then you
don't have to worry about what is that what I think message consumerism know
everybody will do what they think is needed nothing more nothing less
every human being should do what is needed for his individual life nothing
more nothing less if you do less that means you will be inefficient if you do
more the excess is also leading to inefficiency you will not realize the
full potential of who you are so the intensity of experience comes within you
only when you address the longing to expand if you address the
self-preservation mode it will shut off everything the only tears you will know
is of pain suffering fear agitation frustration but if you empower the other
dimension of nature within you one dimension of nature is trying to put a
wall around yourself another wants to go limitless only when you touch that only
when your life is carried by that dimension of nature within you you will
see every leaf every flower an ant can bring tears to you I must tell you this
look I had a great grandmother who who people
in those days had she's a devil of a woman not because she did any evil to
anybody it's just that if she laughed the whole street would shake like that
she laughed in those days women were not supposed to laugh loudly like that I
don't know how people managed to live without women who cannot laugh it should
be tough but she is a woman who when he when she laughed everything around her
shook she lived up to 1 1 3 113 years of age when I met her she was over 100 so
at the age of 68 she moved out of the family structure by then she had buried
her husband she'd buried her many of her children a few grandchildren a few
great-grandchildren also she had buried she got married at the age of 14 and
over 100 years of age she had seen everybody through so at the age of 68 or
70 she moved out of the family she built a small place for herself and she grew
her own food and she lived by herself when we went there to the ancestral home
in the summer vacation she always came and I kind of hit it off with her in a
certain way because she was special I did not know what was special about her
I was just four or five years of age but with her you could do anything you
wanted so I liked it there were no rules with her I would see her somebody would
bring breakfast for her then she would go about giving this breakfast to the
ants to the sparrows all the sparrows are dead now - the sparrows and to the
squirrels most of her breakfast will be gone like this and people around her
self-appointed advisors would say you give away all your food to these
creatures and you will die like this all these advisors died
but she lived on many times have seen her she would just put this food to all
these ants and ants will be all eating she would be just sitting there with
tears streaking down her cheeks and if
somebody comes and reminds her why don't you eat she would say I'm full I thought
she's really emotional about these ends it took me another 25 years or 20 years
to come to this experience where how if you're truly connected you could be just
nourished by anything and everything around you it's not necessarily by
consumption so consumerism is not the way you connect with the existence
consumerism is not the way you experience life in its full depth and
dimension it is by inclusion that you know this so right now the the most what
to say rule him into the form of inclusion is to shop shopping is the
most of what is not yours you make it yours this seems to fulfill something
for a moment after some time it's once again the same thing it is not a
question of morality at all this is a question of am I here to somehow avoid
life or am I here to experience in no life in its fullest depth and dimension
when I say life at least this piece of life if you cannot know the whole cosmos
it doesn't matter before you fall dead at least this piece
of life you must know in its entirety otherwise you're a wasted life isn't it
I am I think you might have questions on consumerism but you can wait a little
bit I will not miss this opportunity or some other aspects of our business which
are not disabled business there's issues on life which I want you to that's one
of the things that I keep hearing from very young people 25 20 30 year old I'm
too stressed out even the 12 year olds insane 12 year olds are senior and here
also a bottle guru fuels you for it second one stress is not in your job
stress is your inability to manage your mind emotions and life energies please
tell me some nice way of communicating this to lots of young people in a
business I think lots of us would like to take that lesson and take it to the
kids say what one person feels as a great stress another person breezes
through the same situation isn't it true today in the country you look at the
Chopra see he stressed because there is no promotion in the job he wants to move
from Bandra to Malabar Hill promotion sleeping a different Street he's very
stressed to sweep his patch of the street not even the whole street we can
go like this right the top job the prime minister in between between the chapati
and the prime minister just about everybody including a school going child
is experiencing stress or in other words what they are saying is the statement is
life is stress when I first were the United States a few years ago wherever I
went people were talking about stress management I could not understand
because in my perception we will manage things which are precious to us
our family our business our wealth our money whatever else whatever is precious
to us why would anybody want to manage stress this is something I couldn't
figure it took me some time it took me some time to understand that these
people have made a conclusion that stress is a part of their life this is
not a part of your life as the quote you read out said if you knew how to keep
your mind for example if your mind took instructions from if your mind just does
whatever you want would you keep it stressful or blissful it's a question
for all of if your mind took instructions from you would you keep it
stressful or blissful that's your choice you must you must make the choice I'm
going to bless you right now it's very important you make the choice the
problem is most people have not made the choice they have not made a clear choice
so if the mind was taking instructions you would keep it blissful well you have
the answer your mind is not taking instructions from you
then who is it taking instructions from maybe your company's influencing them
maybe somebody else somebody else just about anybody just about anybody can
mess up your mind it doesn't take instructions from you it
is in a compulsive state of reaction it is not in a conscious state of action it
is in a compulsive state of reaction because your mind doesn't take
instructions from you it feels like such a great threat even to have a mind that
people are talking you must become a no mind or / yourself with some chemical
and be out for some time all these things is simply because mind is mind is
not working for you it's working against you any kind of suffering stressful Ness
anxiety anger it doesn't matter what you call it these are all different states
of unpleasantness in your mind any kind of unpleasantness in your mind means
your own intelligence is working against you there is an evolutionary reason for
this you know Charles Darwin told you you are a monkey at one time it's not my
statement no I I did not say that
Darwin told you you were a monkey and then you became a man and all this stuff
we know evolutionary process has happened on this planet for a goat to
become a giraffe it took so many million years for a pig to become an elephant it
took many many million years but for a monkey to become a human being it
happened too quickly yes to a point
whenever he doesn't like something he laughs it out it's better it's better to
a point where the anthropologist of the day are saying there is a missing link
somewhere because there are some jumps which are not logical
they have happened too rapidly there many reasons I will not go into the
scientific reasons why it happened so rapidly there are good scientific
reasons as to why it it just kind of picked up so much momentum the
evolutionary process but now what's happened is we have an intelligence for
which we don't have an appropriate platform unless you create a proper
platform your intelligence will torment you right now human beings are suffering
their own intelligence when you have a mind of this kind of breadth and
capability every human being has they kind of restricted
because the fear of suffering they think if their mind functions freely so much
suffering it will bring stress anxiety fear all kinds of things a stable base
is what is missing the spiritual processes particularly the yogic
practices when you when I say yoga do not think of impossible postures there
are various things to create a stable base a kind of base which can hold this
intelligence with ease if you do not do that in the evolution of intelligence
from monkey to man and in evolution of the body from monkey to man there is
there happen at different speeds the evolution of the mind and consciousness
has gone too rapidly the body has not gone so rapidly so because of this there
is a little bit of thing you have to do something with this you have to bring a
certain balance and stability into your system for you to enjoy this
intelligence otherwise this intelligence will turn against you and torment you in
a million different ways and that's what is happening which we are today calling
a stress people are saying my job is stress okay I'll have you fired will you
walk happily on the beach no you will be depressed if I give you a job you'll be
manic if you lose a job you'll be depressed people are trying to bring
stability into that life by making conclusions on everything you have to
become something you have to become an optimist you have to become a pessimist
you have to become a theist or an atheist or you become a Hindu or a
Muslim or whatever you have to become something to become stable because this
is identity based stability the moment you identify yourself with something
whatever it may be the moment you identify yourself with something your
mind will function only around that whatever you're identified with once
mind is functioning only around that it becomes like a whirlpool of its own if
you washed in a river the river is moving rapidly towards the ocean
there will be a whirlpool here this whirlpool goes nowhere it is always in
the same place this is the nature of the whirlpool so the moment you identify
yourself with something that you are not when I say something that you are not
the very physical body that you carry is an accumulated body isn't it it is it is
a piece of the planet that you gathered slowly or a period of time you must get
this now if you don't get this now from me one day you'll get it from the
maggots and that's not of much use right now you know that this is just a piece
of the planet that you picked up if you get identified with this your mind
functions only around this this body is everything because this body is
everything whatever concerns this body all those bodies become something this
is the bane of our country right now this is a death rush to syndrome you
remember so basically what you're saying is that it is you have to take things as
they exist but you have to use your imagination this is what I am saying
don't draw a conclusion conclusion is depth isn't it awareness is life I am an
optimist means tomorrow is going to be a great day pessimist means tomorrow there
may be a lot of trouble tomorrow this may happen that may happen but the
reality is tomorrow has not come so you don't know what the hell it's going to
be we will plan for tomorrow but you really don't know what it is isn't it
yes or no it doesn't matter how many predictions you have how much guesswork
you have still you do not know what tomorrow is you actually you do not know
what next five minutes is isn't it so reality of life is just this we have
a whole lot of ideas based on the past experience of life they may go well in a
few times but there's always a possibility something else could happen
always that is the reality of life if you make a conclusion that this is
the way it's going to be you miss the experience of life because you concluded
all these conclusions are because one way or other we want to take away the
uncertainty of life we want to conclude people want to conclude there is God
there is no God there is like this like that 80s and these are just people who
need that have the courage now the commitment to seek what is true so this
is why you must understand in this land the fundamental ethos of this culture
has been that this is a land of seekers never a land of believers in the same
family fire people can worship fire different gods because we have
understood the technology of God making yes yes we know how to create forms
which will work for us and we know very well we created it and there is a
certain process called Ishta devatha that means you can choose your god of
your liking there are 33 million gods and goddesses you have a choice but if
you don't like any of them you can make your own really if you worship the tree
in your garden nobody in india things you gone crazy okay
somewhere else they'll report you yes it is it is so you worship a small rock on
the street side nobody thinks you're crazy okay you relate to that it's fine
with me you worship the clouds in the sky perfectly fine because whatever you
relate to you make it your God because anyway we know you made it up we are
conscious that we made it up some people have lost that awareness that they made
it up yes and this is very important does it mean to say there is nothing
beyond us well before we came here the planet was here the cosmos was here
after we are dead it'll be here so obviously we didn't make it nor are we
running it definite there is something bigger than us but
not the way we imagine because this imagination is coming from a certain
obnoxiousness that the cosmos is human centric the cosmos is not human centric
we are just a small happening in this creation we also have a place but the
the world and the existence is not centered around us this is a very
obnoxious conclusion we have made because of these kind of conclusions we
become this or that why is it so necessary to make a conclusion because
our well-being is not coming from our awareness our well-being is coming from
conclusions that we have made it gives us a certain sense of certainty that I
belong to this party or that party I am willing to look every moment and see
which is the best thing to do right now no no no that seems too uncertain but
whatever you do whatever Arrangements you make whatever conclusions you make
the reality will get you the way it gets you all right yes or no in any way get
you one way or the other if you are in touch with reality if you are in tune
with reality you can handle these things gracefully life and death you can handle
gracefully otherwise if you are an optimist you will go towards still as
long as a few things are working you're okay after that you will be frustrated
if you're a pessimist we don't have to tell you you've already given up on
everything is it true that your body when you were born it was only this much
and slowly you gathered it is it true why is it so difficult to say yes
yeah so you gathered this body what you call as your mind is this is an
accumulation of the food that you've eaten what you call as your mind is an
accumulation of the impressions that you have taken in from whatever exposures
you have in the world so your body's an accumulation your mind is an
accumulation whatever you accumulate at the most you can claim it is mine if you
say it is me it amounts to insanity suppose I suddenly pick up this vessel
and say this is my wrestle they will think oh he said guru's got
some problem with the vessel but everybody says is wise let's listen some
more after some time I say this is me then you will say let's go this
unfortunately you're doing everyday the food that you eat appears on your plate
you said this is my food you eat it and said this is me this is a socially
accepted level of insanity okay yes it's socially accepted but if you
believe something that is not you as yourself it amounts to insanity is it
even medically you will call a father now consumerism or becoming a
consumerist there is no such thing you must only consume what you can digest
not only physically in every other way if you consume more than what you can
handle it will only lead to destruction this you know very well with your body
but that is the same thing with true with everything
so this consumerism means instead of human consciousness directing the human
commerce activity right now we are letting commerce direct
human consciousness this is a dangerous way to live and it is definitely not a
sustainable way to live I'm not only saying ecologically even as human beings
we will not be able to sustain our basic human nature if we go this way for too
long right now a few people are trying to push but you must understand a whole
lot of people I'm sure it is true in this hall and everywhere the moment
their retirements come they switch it off and go and attend to their this and
that yes a few things they may watch rest of it people will try to avoid
because it is it has become a certain onslaught of you must do this you must
do that it is only initially it is working after
that people will only see what they want to see what they need they're not going
to watch everything and get excited about it
that's not true that is only true with a certain juvenile mind everybody else
will see only what they want to see your advertising Rolls Royce a whole lot of
people may see ok it's a beautiful car but they never think I must get a Rolls
Royce a whole lot of people will not think there are very few people a
certain segment of people who will drool oh I wish I had it not everybody else a
whole lot of people think it's an impractical car to buy there buy
something else what is suitable for their life and their lifestyle and
everything else so what I'm saying is this thing about somebody is a
consumerist somebody is a spiritual person there is no such thing what you
have right now as a body and mind both accumulated if you accumulated all
this what you accumulate cannot be you isn't it by any standards what you
accumulate at the most can be yours it cannot be you so if you accumulate this
much body and this much mind there must be something more fundamental about you
which is beyond this body in this mind if you touch that we say your spiritual
once your spiritual your consumption becomes
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