SO YOU HAVE ALL HEARD BY NOW THAT THERE WAS A GIANT
BOMBING IN MANCHESTER AT THE ARIANA GRANDE CONCERT.
I WANT TO TELL YOU SOME OF THE DETAILS HERE.
OBVIOUSLY EVERY PART OF THIS IS TRAGIC.
HUFFINGTON POST EXPLAINS, AT LEAST 22
PEOPLE WERE KILLED INCLUDING CHILDREN, AND 59
INJURED IN THE LATE-NIGHT EXPLOSION POLICE SAID.
12 CHILDREN UNDER THE AGE OF 16
WERE AMONG THE WOUNDED.
TWO OF THE VICTIMS HAVE BEEN
IDENTIFIED AS 18-YEAR-OLD GEORGINA CALLANDER AN
EIGHT-YEAR-OLD SAFFIE ROSE ROUSSOS.
EVERY PART OF THE STORY IS HEARTBREAKING.
LET'S GO TO TRY TO FIND OUT WHO DID IT.
WE AT LEAST KNOW THE MAIN ASSAILANT WHO DIED IN THIS
ATTACK.
FIRST OF ALL, THE ISLAMIC STATE MILITANT GROUP, THAT IS ISIS
CLAIMED RESPONSIBILITY IN A STATEMENT RELEASED ON TUESDAY
FOR THE ATTACK VIA ONE OF ITS OFFICIAL MEDIA CHANNELS.
IT IS
UNCLEAR HOWEVER WHETHER ISIS HAD ANY DIRECT ROW IN ROLE IN PLAN
SET PLANNING THE BONDING OR EFFORT THE ATTACKER WAS IN
COMMUNICATION WITH THE GRID THOUGHT THE US IS NOT VERIFIED
THAT THE ISIS WAS BEHIND THE ATTACK THAT WE DO KNOW WHO DID
IT ACCORDING TO BRITISH AUTHORITIES, IT IS 23-YEAR-OLD
SALMAN ABEDI.
HE APPARENTLY BLEW HIMSELF UP, AND IED THAT
KILLED SO MANY PEOPLE.
DID HE TARGET THIS ARIANA GRANDE CONCERT BECAUSE
THERE WOULD BE MORE KIDS AROUND?
UNCLEAR.
OBVIOUSLY LOOKING FOR A MASS OF PEOPLE, THAT IS WHY THEY DO IT
ON PLANES AND TRAINS AND THEY HAVE DONE THESE TERRORIST
ATTACKS AND SPORTING EVENTS AND NOW CONCERTS.
IT IS TRAGIC.
THIS TELEGRAPH VIDEO THAT WE ARE SHOWING YOU NOW, AND IT
HAPPENED OUTSIDE AND PEOPLE DON'T KNOW WHAT IS GOING ON.
SOME OF THEM ARE KIDDING AROUND AND THEN THEY REALIZE OH MY GOD
AND THEY START TO SEE PEOPLE WITH LIMBS THAT HAVE BEEN BLOWN
OFF AND BLOOD EVERYWHERE.
AT ONE POINT THE CROWD IS TOLD TO CALMLY EXIT THE
BUILDING, EVERYTHING IS FINE AND SAFE.
THAT IS NOT TRUE AS IT TURNS OUT THAT IT IS MUCH BETTER TO
SAY EXIT SAFELY BECAUSE IT WILL LEAD TO MORE DEATHS IF YOU
DON'T BUT IT TURNED OUT THAT THINGS WERE NOT SAFE.
AT THAT POINT THE EXPLOSION HAD ARTIE HAPPENED.
NOW MORE FROM HUFFINGTON POST ON DETAILS.
MANCHESTER CHIEF CONSTABLE IAN HOPKIN SAID EARLY TUESDAY
THE ATTACK WAS CONDUCTED BY ONE MAN WHO DIED AT THE SCENE.
THAT IS THE GUY WE JUST TOLD YOU ABOUT.
AN INITIAL REPORT SAID HE CARRIED AN IMPROVISED
EXPLOSIVE DEVICE NEAR THE ARENA AND DETONATED.
WE'VE BEEN TREATING THIS AS A TERRORIST INCIDENT AND WE
BELIEVE THAT WHILE THE ATTACK LAST NIGHT WAS CONDUCTED BY
ONE MAN, THE PRIORITY IS TO ESTABLISH WHETHER HE WAS
ACTING ALONE OR AS PART OF A NETWORK.
I HAVE READ THAT ANOTHER PERSON WAS ARRESTED AS WELL.
IN THE FIRST 24 HOURS, THERE IS ALWAYS CONFUSING DETAILS,
SOME OF WHICH TURN OUT TO BE WRONG LATER, SO WE DON'T
KNOW WHETHER THAT Was CONNECTED TO THE ATTACK OR NOT.
OBVIOUSLY, THEY ARE QUESTIONING HIM FOR A REASON.
THEY ARE INVESTIGATING AS A TERRORIST ATTACK.
WHAT ELSE WOULD YOU CALL THIS?
IT IS A MOST CERTAINLY TERRORISM.
ISIS TAKES CREDIT FOR AND THEY TOOK CREDIT FOR A FAIRLY
QUICKLY.
SOMETIMES WHEN IT IS NOT RELATED TO THEM THEY TAKE A LITTLE
LONGER, THEY ARE KIND OF CONFUSED AND THEY ARE LIKE
YEAH, I GUESS WE WANT CREDIT FOR THAT.
THIS WHEN THEY TOOK CREDIT VERY QUICKLY ON.
THAT DOESN'T PROVE THAT IT WAS CORD NEEDED WITH ISIS AND
OFTEN TIMES, ISIS WILL TAKE HER TO AFTERWARD BUT THAT IS
WHAT THEY ARE INVESTIGATING AND WE WILL FIND OUT THAT WE
DON'T HAVE GOOD WORD ON THAT YET.
I CAN GIVE YOU THE FATALITIES, AND I JUST DID, BUT SOMETIMES
THERE ARE PORTIONS OF THE STORY THAT WHEN I READ IT REALLY HIT
HOME AND OBVIOUSLY, WHEN YOU SEE THE PICTURES AS WE ARE SHOWING
YOU HERE, IF YOU ARE UNCOMFORTABLE, OBVIOUSLY I
GET IF YOU WANT TO TURN AWAY FROM IT BUT WE DO HAVE TO
SEE THE RESULTS OF WHAT HAPPENED HERE.
ANDY HOLLY WAS WAITING OUTSIDE FOR THE KIDS.
HE GOT HIT BY THE EXPLOSION, HE WAS OKAY, AND THEN HE EXPLAINED,
I LOOKED THROUGH SOME OF THE BODIES TO TRY AND FIND MY WIFE
AND DAUGHTER.
IN THAT MOMENT WHEN I READ THAT AND I THOUGHT
ABOUT IT, BEING IN HIS PLACE FOR A SECOND AND TRYING TO FIND YOUR
WIFE AND DAUGHTER IN THE CARNAGE OF ALL OF THOSE BODIES LYING
AROUND, IF YOU ARE ANYWHERE NEAR HUMAN, THAT WILL TURN YOUR
STOMACH REAL QUICK.
AS IT TURNED OUT, SUPER LUCKY, HIS WIFE AND DAUGHTER WERE
OKAY AND EVEN THOUGH HE GOT HIT A LITTLE BIT BY THE
EXPLOSION, HE IS OKAY.
SOME TALKED ABOUT BEING THROWN 30 FEET BY THE EXPLOSION,
SOMEHOW MIRACULOUSLY OKAY AND HERE IS ONE MORE FROM THE STORY.
THE 23-YEAR-OLD, ARIANNA GRANDE A, IS A FOUR-TIME KIDS
CHOICE AWARD WINNER AND BECAUSE OF HER ROOTS ON
NICKELODEON, HER FAN BASE TENDS TO SKEW ON THE YOUNGER SIDE.
THAT ALSO'S SENT A CHILL DOWN MY SPINE BECAUSE THEY MIGHT'VE BEEN
TARGETING KIDS THERE.
LOOK, WHAT DO WE HAVE?
WE HAVE I FOR A KNIFE THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE WORLD AND WE ARE
ALL MOST NEARLY BLIND NOW.
ONE OF THE THINGS I THINK OF IN THESE SITUATIONS IS BRAVE NEW
FILMS DID THIS AMAZING STORY WHERE THEY WENT AND FOUND SOME
OF THE VICTIMS OF OUR BOMBINGS IN DIFFERENT PLACES STRUT THE
WORLD AND IF YOU ARE NOT AWARE, THE US HAS KILLED CIVILIANS
IN PAKISTAN, YEMEN, AFGHANISTAN, IRAQ, SYRIA, ALL OF THOSE.
IN THE CONTEXT OF THIS, THE REST OF THE PRESS I'M SURE
CERTAINLY THE RIGHT WING WILL BE YELLING AT US AND SAY HOW
DARE YOU, YOU SHOULD ONLY TALK ABOUT THIS AND YOU SHOULD
NEVER MENTION ANY CONTEXT AT ALL.
BUT IN ORDER TO STOP THE TERRORISTS, WE HAVE TO FIGURE
OUT WHY THEY ARE DOING IT AND THERE ARE SOME SIMPLETONS
OUT THERE WHO THINK KNOW, YOU JUST CALL IT A MAGICAL NAME
AND IT WILL GO AWAY.
YOU GUYS GOT YOUR PRESIDENT AND HE CALLED IT THE MAGICAL NAME.
HE STILL HASN'T GONE AWAY.
HE SAID HE WOULD SOLVE ALL THIS IN 30 DAYS.
WHERE NOW FOUR MONTHS IN ANY HASN'T SOLVED THIS THE WHAT
HAPPENED HERE MAGIC?
IT TURNS OUT THAT'S A REALLY DUMB STRATEGY.
HE SAID WE WOULD BOMB THEM AND KILL THEIR FAMILY MEMBERS
AND WE DID THAT WE'VE KILLED A LOT MORE CIVILIANS UNDER
TRUMPET OUR BOMBINGS IN SYRIA THAT HAS ASSAULTED?
IT HAS NEITHER.
YOU WERE WRONG.
MORE CARNAGE DOESN'T EXACTLY SOLVE IT THE ONE OF THE
REASONS THEY DO IT, I THINK THE MAIN REASON WHY ANY OF THE
MASS SHOOTER'S A TERRORIST DO IS THEY ARE LOOKING FOR GLORY
IN ALL THE WRONG PLACES AND SO THEY WANT TO BE FAMOUS.
HERE WE WILL SAY THE NAME AND I TRY REALLY HARD NOT TO SAY
THE NAMES GOING FORWARD WHETHER THEY ARE MASS SHOOTER'S OR
TERRORISTS.
WE DON'T ALWAYS SUCCEED ON THAT HONESTLY, BUT WE ARE TRYING
OUR BEST.
I DON'T WANT TO FEED INTO THAT AND I DON'T WANT TO HAVE THESE
GUYS BECOME MARTYRS TO THEIR FAN BASE HOWEVER PERVERTED OR SICK
THAT FAN BASE MIGHT BE, SOME SORT OF HEROES BUT THE SECOND
PART OF IT IS THEY THINK IN THE CASE OF THE MUSLIM
FUNDAMENTALISTS WHO DO IT, WELL, WE WANT YOU TO FILL WHAT WE FEEL
SO WHEN OUR KIDS ARE KILLED, YOU GUYS DON'T SEEM TO CARE.
THAT IS WHY I MENTIONED THE BRAVE NEW FILMS PIECE
BECAUSE NOT ONLY DID THEY DO A STORY ABOUT IT, THEY
BROUGHT THIS KID AND WHO HAD LOST FAMILY MEMBERS WHEN
THEY HAD HIM TESTIFY BEFORE CONGRESS.
IT'S POWERFUL.
THE PARENTS EXPLAINED THAT WHENEVER ANYTHING FLIES
OVERHEAD NOW, THE KID GOES AND HIDES IN A TREE BECAUSE HE
IS WORRIED THAT THE HOUSES ARE GOING TO BE BOMBED BY THE
US LIKE WE HAVE IN THE PAST AND THAT HIS FAMILY MEMBERS AND
HE HIMSELF ARE GOING TO DIE.
WE'VE TRAUMATIZED THOSE FOLKS TO NO END AND SO PART OF THIS
IS THEY WANT TO TRAUMATIZE US BACK.
IT DOESN'T MAKE EITHER ONE OF THOSE THINGS RIGHT THAT IT
DOESN'T EQUATE THEM, JUST BECAUSE YOU MENTION CONTEXT
DOESN'T MEAN THAT ALL THOSE THINGS ARE EQUAL.
YES, THERE'S THE BAD GUYS TO GO AFTER AND YES WE MAKE MISTAKES
AND MOST OF THE TIME TRY NOT TO TARGET CIVILIANS ALTHOUGH SOME
OF THE TIMES WE DO.
SO WHEN THIS HAPPENS, WE HAVE GOT TO BE SMART ABOUT
FIGURING OUT HOW TO END IT.
JUST SAYING MORE BOMBINGS ARE JUST TARGETING ONE
RELIGION, IT IS SO SIMPLE AND IT MAKES YOU FEEL GOOD.
IS FLAWED INTELLECTUALISM.
I FIGURED IT OUT, I'M SO BRAVE AND STRONG.
I WAS BRAVE ENOUGH TO SAY IT IS ISLAM.
WOW.
AND THE WEST SAYING IT'S ISLAM, SO BRAVE.
NOT REMOTELY BRAVE OR SMART IN THIS CASE IT APPEARS TO BE A
MUSLIM KID WHO DID IT AND CERTAINLY FUNDAMENTALIST
AND A TERRORIST, BUT WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO IS PREVENT
FURTHER ONES.
YES, YOU NEED POLICE WORK FOR THAT AND SOMETIMES, I REMEMBER
WHEN THEY WERE CRITICIZED BILL CLINTON, THE BUSH
ADMINISTRATION HAS SAID WE CAN'T TREAT PEOPLE LIKE
CRIMINALS, WE HAVE TO TREAT IT LIKE A WAR.
BUT OFTENTIMES THEY COME FROM OUR OWN COUNTRIES WHETHER
IT IS HERE IN THE US OR IN THE UK.
I DONíT KNOW WHERE THIS GUY CAME
FROM, BUT IF HE WAS INSIDE YOUR OWN COUNTRY, WHAT YOU GOING TO DO?
BY MYSELF, BY MANCHESTER?
THAT'S WHAT HE DID, THAT STUPID.
YOU ARE GOING TO RANDOMLY BOMB THE COUNTRY THAT IS PARENTS OR
GRANDPARENTS OR FROM?
WHAT IS THAT ACCOMPLISHED?
ONE OF THE THINGS, JUST AS MORE CIVILIAN DEATHS, MORE EYES
GOUGED OUT AND MORE PEOPLE LOOKING TO GOUGE OUT OUR
EYES.
IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT YOU APPEASE THEM.
HELL NO.
DOESN'T MEAN YOU NEGOTIATE WITH THEM.
FOR CHRISTíS SAKE THOUGH, FOR EVERYBODY SAY, LET'S FIND A
SMART STRATEGY AND I JUST GO WITH EASY ANSWERS LIKE BOMB
THEM AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS.
WE HAVE BEEN BOMBING THEM FOR DECADES ON TOP OF DECADES.
IS IT WORKING?
CAN WE ADD A BARE MINIMUM, ALL REASONABLE HUMAN BEINGS
ACKNOWLEDGE THAT WHATEVER WE'VE BEEN DOING AND CERTAINLY BOMBING
AND WAR HAS BEEN A GIANT PART OF OUR STRATEGY, IT ISN'T WORKING.
THEY CONTINUE TO OBAMA'S.
MAYBE NOT DESPITE THE FACT THAT WE BOMB THEM BUT BECAUSE OF
THE FACT THAT WE BOMB THEM.
IF YOU THINK THAT IS AN OUTRAGEOUS THING TO SAY ANYONE
TO CLOSE YOUR EYES AND MINDS AND JUST YELL OUT THINGS LIKE
ISLAM, RADICAL ISLAMIC EXTREMIST, BOMB, WAR, YOU
CAN CHOOSE TO BE STUPID.
I CAN'T HELP YOU ON THAT.
AND IF YOU THINK THAT IS AN
INTELLECTUAL ARGUMENT, I FEEL EVEN MORE SORRY FOR YOU BUT I
HOPE THAT THE REST OF US CAN FIGURE OUT A BETTER WAY TO
ADDRESS THIS BECAUSE WHAT WE ARE DOING NOW ISN'T WORKING AND
EVERY TIME I SEE ONE OF THESE STORIES, AGAIN, IF YOU ARE A
DECENT HUMAN BEING YOU THINK, YOU FEEL TERRIBLE FOR THOSE
PEOPLE AND THE PARENTS WHO LOST THE EIGHT-YEAR-OLD, THE
16-YEAR-OLDS AND THEIR FRIENDS AND THEIR FAMILY AND ALL THE
PEOPLE WHO WERE THERE WHO WILL BE TRAUMATIZE FOREVER AND OF
COURSE, PARTLY YOU THINK THEY COULD'VE BEEN US THERE FOR THE
GRACE OF GOD GO I.
FOR EVERYBODY SICK LET'S FIGURE OUT A WAY TO SOLVE THIS AND
NOT DO IT IN A WAY THAT IS SIMPLETON AND
COUNTERPRODUCTIVE AND YES, PART OF THAT IS GREAT POLICE
INVESTIGATIONS TO ROOTED OUT HOPEFULLY BEFORE IT HAPPENS
AND CERTAINLY AFTER TO CATCH WHO DID IT AND PUT A SHORT TERM INTO
IT WHILE WE LOOK FOR A LONG-TERM SOLUTION THAT CAN ACTUALLY WORK.
ONE LESS THING GUYS.
I KNOW IT SEEMS IMPOSSIBLE BECAUSE WE JUST HAD THESE
ATTACKS OVER AND OVER AGAIN, BUT REMEMBER, THERE WAS A LOT
OF TERRORISM AND A LOT OF PEOPLE TO REMEMBER, THIS IS WHY
GIVE YOU CONTEXT OUT THERE WAS MORE TERRORISM IN THE 1970S
IN EUROPE THAN THERE IS TODAY.
IF YOU WATCH THE NEWS YOU GO NO WAY, TERRORISM IS WAY
BIGGER TODAY.
IT'S NOT THAT I WAS MUCH LARGER IN THE 1970S.
NOW A LOT OF THAT HAS TO CLIENT AND HOW DID THE CLIENT?
ONE EXAMPLE IS THE SITUATION IN NORTHERN IRELAND WHERE WE HAD
BOMBING AFTER BOMBING, DEATH AFTER DEATH, CIVILIANS KILLED
AND MAIMED, LIMBS BLOWN OFF, ALL THE SAME THINGS BUT YOU KNOW
WHAT WORKS IN THAT CASE TO LOWER THE VIOLENCE DRAMATICALLY?
PEACE.
I KNOW THAT THEY KEEP TELLING YOU THE ANSWER IS WAR BUT
IT IS COUNTERFACTUAL.
THE REALITY IS, FOR EXAMPLE, ISRAEL VERSUS EGYPT.
EGYPT WAS ISRAEL'S LARGEST ENEMY, THE ONE THEY FEARED
THE MOST AND THE MOST ABOUT OF DAMAGE.
JIMMY CARTER DID A PEACE DEAL, NOBODY HAS BEEN KILLED
BETWEEN THOSE TWO COUNTRIES SENSE.
OTHER COUNTRIES AROUND ISRAEL THAT DIDN'T DO A PEACE DEAL,
THEY ARE STILL AT WAR WITH AND STILL HAVE GREAT HOSTILITIES,
CONFLICTS THAT FLARE UP OVER AND OVER AGAIN BUT WHAT WORKED?
A PIECE STILL WORKED.
SO WHEN YOU SEE ON TELEVISION PEOPLE TRYING TO WRITE YOU
UP WITH YOUR ANGER, IT IS EASY.
I GET ANGRY TOO, I AM HUMAN 2.
WE ALL GET ANGRY.
SOMETIMES THEY HAVE A POINT THAT THEIR POINT IS TO DRIVE
TOWARD MORE WAR AND THAT HAS NOT STOPPED THE TERRORISM.
IT IS NOT MADE IT BETTER.
THERE IS ONE THING THAT HAS HISTORICALLY WORKED AND I
KNOW THEY WILL SAY, YEAH, YOU ARE WEAK.
OKAY, THEN YOU ARE STUPID BECAUSE BACKS SHOW YOU THAT
WHEN WE DO PEACE DEALS, SHOCKINGLY ENOUGH, A LOT OF
THE TIME, WE GET PEACE.
IF YOU ARE AS TIRED OF THESE BOMBINGS AND ACTS OF TERRORISM
AS I AM, FOR GODS SAKE, LET'S HEAD IN A DIFFERENT DIRECTION.
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