ANNOUNCER: THIS PROGRAM HAS BEEN MADE POSSIBLE BY
THE FRIENDS AND PARTNERS OF JOYCE MEYER MINISTRIES.
JOYCE: SO THE FIRST KEY TO BREAKTHROUGH IS, FIRST OF ALL,
PRAY.
WE ALWAYS PRAY.
THAT'S PART OF EVERYTHING.
AND THEN, DON'T JUST PRAY FOR GOD TO FIX IT FOR YOU.
PRAY FOR GOD TO SHOW YOU TRUTH, TO SHOW YOU WHAT
THE REAL ISSUE IS.
[MUSIC]
JOYCE: IS THERE ANYBODY IN THIS BUILDING TODAY, OR IN
THE OVERFLOWS, OR WATCHING BY TELEVISION THAT YOU NEED
A BREAKTHROUGH IN YOUR LIFE?
[AUDIENCE APPLAUDING]
JOYCE: HOW MANY OF YOU ARE ASKING GOD TO GIVE YOU
A BREAKTHROUGH?
[AUDIENCE APPLAUDING]
JOYCE: WELL, I SAID LAST NIGHT WAS GONNA BE A HAPPY
NIGHT, YOU WERE GONNA LIKE EVERYTHING I SAID.
TODAY, YOU PROBABLY WON'T LIKE EVERYTHING I SAY.
[AUDIENCE LAUGHING]
JOYCE: IT MIGHT NOT BE QUITE AS HAPPY RIGHT NOW, BUT IT'S ONE
OF THOSE MESSAGES THAT IF YOU FOLLOW IT, A YEAR FROM NOW,
OR TWO YEARS FROM NOW, OR SIX MONTHS FROM NOW,
YOU'RE GONNA BE A WHOLE LOT HAPPIER THAN YOU ARE
RIGHT NOW.
EVERYTHING THAT WE HEAR IS NOT ALWAYS SOMETHING
THAT FEELS GOOD.
SOMETIMES WE NEED TO HEAR THINGS THAT MAKE US SQUIRM IN OUR SEATS
A LITTLE BIT, MAYBE EVEN GET A LITTLE BIT MAD AT THE PREACHER
FOR A FEW MINUTES.
[AUDIENCE LAUGHING]
JOYCE: 'CAUSE, YOU KNOW, WHEN THEY TELL US SOMETHIN' WE DON'T
WANNA HEAR, IT'S EASY TO GET MAD AT 'EM, BUT I BELIEVE THAT
YOU'LL ALL SEE THE TRUTH IN WHAT I'M GONNA SAY.
THE MAIN THING THAT I WANNA SAY IS THAT IF YOU WANT ANY KIND OF
A BREAKTHROUGH IN YOUR LIFE, FINANCIAL BREAKTHROUGH,
BREAKTHROUGH IN YOUR HEALTH, BREAKTHROUGH IN RELATIONSHIPS,
WHATEVER IT IS THAT YOU MIGHT WANT A BREAKTHROUGH IN, FIRST
THING YOU SHOULD ALWAYS DO IS PRAY, BUT NEVER PRAY AND ASK GOD
TO DO ANYTHING FOR YOU IF YOU DON'T INTEND TO LISTEN TO WHAT
HE PROBABLY IS GOING TO TELL YOU TO DO THAT WILL ULTIMATELY BRING
THAT BREAKTHROUGH.
I'M GONNA SAY THAT AGAIN.
[AUDIENCE LAUGHING]
JOYCE: SEE, THIS IDEA WE HAVE ABOUT PRAYER IS PRAY AND GET GOD
TO DO EVERYTHING.
WHEN WE'VE DONE OUR RESPONSIBILITY, THEN WE HAVE
THE RIGHT TO CAST OUR CARE ON GOD AND WAIT FOR HIM TO DO
WHAT WE CANNOT DO.
IN EPHESIANS CHAPTER 6, THIS IS LAID OUT SO CLEARLY.
IT'S A CHAPTER ABOUT SPIRITUAL WARFARE AND THE ARMOR THAT GOD
HAS GIVEN US.
GREAT TEACHING POINTS IN EPHESIANS 6, BUT I LOVE WHAT IT
SAYS IN THE BEGINNING.
IT SAYS: "HAVING DONE ALL [THE CRISIS DEMANDS], NOW
STAND [FIRMLY IN YOUR PLACE]."
A LOT OF TIMES PEOPLE JUST SAY, "WELL, WE'RE JUST STANDING,"
BUT HAVE YOU DONE YOUR RESPONSIBILITY?
HAVE YOU DONE WHAT YOU SHOULD BE DOING?
TELL YOU A STORY.
YEARS AGO, WE HAD BANQUETS.
WE'D HAVE MEETINGS LIKE THIS, BUT, OF COURSE, NOT THIS LARGE,
AND EVERYBODY WOULD SIT AROUND TABLES, AND MEALS WOULD BE
SERVED, AND IT WAS MORE LIKE A WEEKEND, YOU KNOW, EVENT.
A LOT OF THOSE WERE AT WOMEN'S CONFERENCES
OR MARRIAGE RETREATS.
AND SO, SIX, SEVEN, EIGHT LADIES MIGHT SIT AT ONE TABLE, AND
A LADY CAME IN AT THE END OF THE CONFERENCE, AND SHE SAID, "WELL,
I LEARNED A BIG LESSON TODAY."
SHE SAID, "AS GOD WOULD HAVE IT, HE PUT ME AT THE TABLE WITH A
LOT OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE HAD A LOT OF THE SAME SIMILAR PROBLEMS
THAT I'VE HAD AND CAME FROM A SIMILAR BACKGROUND THAT I
CAME FROM WHERE SHE HAD BEEN MISTREATED AND ABUSED.
SHE SAID, "THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IN ME AND THEM NOW IS I LISTENED
TO THEM TALK ABOUT THE TROUBLE THEY WERE HAVIN', AND GOD SHOWED
'EM TO DO THIS, AND THEY DID IT, AND THEN GOD SHOWED 'EM TO DO
THAT AND THEY DID IT.
SHE SAID, "YOU KNOW, GOD SHOWED ME EVERYTHING HE SHOWED THEM.
THE ONLY DIFFERENT WAS I NEVER DID IT."
SO, JUST THROWIN' THIS OUT FOR THOUGHT.
IF THE SHOE DON'T FIT, YOU DON'T HAVE TO WEAR IT.
BUT I WONDER JUST IN THIS ROOM RIGHT NOW HOW MANY
PEOPLE THERE ARE THAT YOU KNOW THAT GOD HAS TOLD YOU TO DO
SOMETHING OR NOT TO DO SOMETHING AND YOU STILL HAVE NOT--YOU'RE
STILL PRAYIN', BUT YOU HAVEN'T TAKEN THE ACTION YET TO DO WHAT
GOD TOLD YOU TO DO.
WELL, LOOK AT THAT, WELL.
I REALLY DON'T WANNA BE MEAN BUT I'M HAVIN' A HARD
TIME FEELIN' SORRY FOR YA.
[AUDIENCE LAUGHING]
JOYCE: 'CAUSE HERE'S THE THING.
WE ARE PARTNERS WITH GOD.
HE'S JUST NOT OUR BIG CELESTIAL SANTA CLAUS THAT WE JUST GIVE
OUR LIST TO EVERY YEAR AND SIT BACK AND LOLLYGAG AROUND WHILE
HE PROVIDES EVERYTHING WE NEED.
THAT'S NOT THE WAY IT WORKS, AND I THINK THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE
HAVE BEEN DECEIVED INTO THINKING THAT.
I WAS IN A CHURCH FOR A LONG, LONG TIME, AND I KNEW ABOUT THE
DOCTRINAL THINGS OF THE CHURCH.
I HAD A GOOD FOUNDATION ON SALVATION, BUT I DIDN'T KNOW ANY
OF THE STUFF THAT I KNOW NOW.
I THOUGHT EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENED WAS GOD DOING IT.
AND IF IT WAS GONNA GET UNDONE, THEN GOD HAD TO UNDO IT.
I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND ANYTHING ABOUT MY RESPONSIBILITY.
I DIDN'T KNOW THAT YOU COULD HEAR FROM GOD.
YOU KNOW, AND A LOT OF PEOPLE TODAY, THEY DON'T LIKE THAT
THOUGHT THAT YOU CAN HEAR FROM GOD.
I MEAN, WHEN YOU TALK TO GOD, IT'S PRAYER, BUT WHEN GOD TALKS
TO YOU, YOU'RE PSYCHOTIC.
[AUDIENCE LAUGHING]
JOYCE: I MEAN, IT'S AMAZING THE WAY PEOPLE ACT AND LOOK AT
YOU IF YOU SAY, "GOD TOLD ME," OR, "GOD SHOWED ME."
"WELL, WHO DO YOU THINK YOU ARE?"
I MEAN, ALL OVER THE BIBLE, IT TALKS ABOUT: "AND GOD SAID TO
MOSES," "AND GOD SAID TO ABRAHAM," "AND GOD SAID TO
JACOB," "AND GOD SAID TO DAVID," "AND GOD SAID TO JOSEPH."
I MEAN, THAT'S THE OLD TESTAMENT.
NOW, TRUE, HE LIVES IN US NOW, AND WE MAY NOT HEAR AS MANY
AUDIBLE VOICES, BUT GOD SPEAKS TO US, AND ONE OF THE WAYS THAT
GOD SPEAKS TO US--INTERESTING ENOUGH, ONE OF THE WAYS THAT GOD
SPEAKS US, AND I WANNA BE CAREFUL WHEN I SAY THIS.
I DON'T WANNA GIVE ANYBODY THE WRONG IDEA, BUT ONE OF THE WAYS
THAT GOD SPEAKS TO US IS THROUGH OUR OWN THOUGHTS.
AND SO IT BECOMES A THOUGHT THAT WON'T GO AWAY.
MAYBE, LIKE, SOMETHING YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO DO FOR SOMEBODY,
AND IT JUST WON'T GO AWAY.
YOU WAKE UP IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT, AND THERE IT IS AGAIN.
YOU'RE DRIVIN' TO WORK, AND THERE IT IS AGAIN.
OR MAYBE IT'S SOMETHING THAT GOD WANTS YOU TO DO, AND IT'S
A DIFFERENT QUALITY OF THOUGHT THAN JUST YOUR OWN THOUGHT
RUNNING THROUGH YOUR HEAD.
IT'S A THOUGHT THAT YOU HAVE THAT YOUR WHOLE SPIRIT BEARS
WITNESS WITH, AND YOU JUST KINDA KNOW THAT IT'S SOMETHING THAT
YOU NEED TO DO.
THAT'S THE BEAUTY OF HAVIN' THE HOLY SPIRIT LIVING ON THE INSIDE
OF US, SO WE CAN HEAR THE GENTLE WHISPERS OF THE HOLY SPIRIT.
HE'S NOT IN THE HABIT OF YELLING AT US AND MAKING US DO THINGS.
HE WHISPERS TO US WHAT HE WANTS US TO DO.
HE GUIDES US, AND THEN HE EXPECTS US TO DO IT.
GOD WILL NEVER ASK YOU TO DO ANYTHING IF HE DOES NOT GIVE YOU
THE GRACE TO DO IT.
[AUDIENCE APPLAUDING]
JOYCE: NEVER.
[AUDIENCE APPLAUDING]
JOYCE: SO THAT GIRL SITTIN' AT THAT TABLE, SHE HAD THE SAME
ABILITY TO OBEY GOD AS ALL THE REST OF THOSE WOMEN, BUT FOR
SOME REASON, SHE STILL GOT STUCK IN THAT OLD IMPROPER THINKING
ABOUT, "PRAYER MEANS THAT I ASK GOD, AND HE DOES EVERYTHING."
NOW, OBVIOUSLY, THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT GOD DOES THAT WE
CAN'T DO, BUT, "HAVING DONE ALL [THE CRISIS DEMANDS], THEN YOU
STAND [FIRMLY IN YOUR PLACE]," AND YOU WAIT FOR GOD TO DO
WHAT ONLY HE CAN DO.
I DON'T KNOW ABOUT YOU, BUT DON'T YOU SEE THIS AS KIND OF
A FALLACY IN THE WAY WE THINK SOMETIMES?
YOU KNOW, WE'RE PARTNERS WITH GOD.
THAT'S THE EXCITING THING ABOUT HANGIN' OUT WITH GOD, IS IT'S
NOT JUST, LIKE, HE TAKES OVER, AND YOU HAVE NO PERSONALITY,
AND YOU HAVE NO WILL, AND YOU CAN'T MAKE ANY DECISIONS.
A LOT OF TIMES, GOD WILL JUST BE WITH YOU WHILE YOU WORK OUT
DECISIONS, AND IF ONE DOESN'T WORK, HE'LL GET YOU BACK
ON THE RIGHT PATH.
IT'S PART OF BEING A HUMAN BEING.
HE DOESN'T WANT TO DO EVERYTHING FOR US.
HE WANTS US TO WORK TOGETHER IN PARTNERSHIP TO GET HIS WILL DONE
IN THE EARTH, AMEN?
[AUDIENCE APPLAUDING]
JOYCE: SO, I MIGHT AS WELL WARN YOU AHEAD OF TIME THAT, AS
I TALK ABOUT ALL THESE KEYS TO BREAKTHROUGH, THAT THERE'S GONNA
BE A RESPONSIBILITY ATTACHED TO ALMOST EVERY ONE OF THEM.
BUT YOU KNOW WHAT?
AN IRRESPONSIBLE PERSON IS AN UNHAPPY PERSON.
YOU CAN'T BE HAPPY WHEN DEEP IN YOUR HEART YOU KNOW THAT
YOU'RE NOT DOING WHAT YOU SHOULD BE DOING.
YOU REALLY CAN'T BE HAPPY.
YOU CAN'T BE LAZY AND BE HAPPY.
YOU CAN'T BE DISOBEDIENT AND BE HAPPY.
I AM CHALLENGING EVERY ONE OF YOU, AND RECHALLENGING MYSELF
ALSO, LET'S GET SO MUCH BETTER AT QUICK, PROMPT, COMPLETE
OBEDIENCE TO WHAT GOD SHOWS US TO DO.
[AUDIENCE APPLAUDING]
JOYCE: I MEAN, LET'S DON'T BE THE KIND OF PEOPLE THAT GOD'S
GOTTA DEAL WITH US FOR A YEAR AND A HALF TO GET US TO
DO SOME SIMPLE THING THAT COULD BE LIFE CHANGING FOR US.
WE'VE ASKED HIM, "I NEED A BREAKTHROUGH.
I NEED YOU TO HELP ME," AND HE'S SHOWED YOU SOMETHING LIKE MAYBE,
MAYBE YOU NEED TO APOLOGIZE TO SOMEBODY.
JUST, YOU KNOW, YOU ACTED KINDA IGNORANT.
NOW JUST GO TELL 'EM YOU'RE SORRY.
[AUDIENCE LAUGHING]
JOYCE: COME ON, MAN UP, TAKE RESPONSIBILITY.
GET RID OF THE EXCUSES AND JUST SAY, "YOU KNOW, THE OTHER DAY,
WHEN THAT HAPPENED BETWEEN US, I LOST MY TEMPER.
YOU KNOW WHAT?
THAT WAS TOTALLY MY FAULT."
MAN, ISN'T THAT HARD TO SAY?
WE ONCE IN A WHILE WILL SHARE THE BLAME, BUT, "THAT WAS
TOTALLY MY FAULT," NOW, THAT IS, LIKE, GUT-WRENCHINGLY HARD.
BUT, BOY, YOU KNOW WHAT?
THOSE ARE FREEING WORDS.
WHEN WE STOP MAKING EXCUSES AND WE START TAKING RESPONSIBILITY
FOR THE THINGS THAT WE DO WRONG, THAT'S WHAT SETS US FREE.
SATAN WANTS US TO BE DECEIVED, ALWAYS FINDING SOMEWHERE ELSE TO
PUT THE PROBLEM, SO WE NEVER GET OUR PROBLEM FIXED, BECAUSE WE
NEVER TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR IT.
AND GUESS WHAT?
NOBODY ELSE IS GONNA COME ALONG AND FIX YOUR PROBLEM.
YOU KNOW, I GOT THREE LADIES OUT HERE IN THE MIDDLE THAT ARE
AGREEING.
[AUDIENCE APPLAUDING]
JOYCE: SO THE FIRST KEY TO BREAKTHROUGH IS, FIRST OF ALL,
PRAY.
WE ALWAYS PRAY.
THAT'S PART OF EVERYTHING.
AND THEN, DON'T JUST PRAY FOR GOD TO FIX IT FOR YOU.
PRAY FOR GOD TO SHOW YOU TRUTH, TO SHOW YOU WHAT THE REAL ISSUE
IS.
AND YOU MIGHT BE THINKING IT'S THE OTHER GUY--COME ON,
YOU KNOW WHERE I'M GOING.
[AUDIENCE LAUGHING]
JOYCE: YOU MIGHT BE THINKIN' IT'S THE OTHER GUY, BUT MAYBE
GOD MIGHT WANNA SHOW YOU THAT IT'S YOU.
[AUDIENCE APPLAUDING]
JOYCE: COME ON, DON'T MAKE ME WORK THIS HARD AND BE SOUR
ALL DAY.
[AUDIENCE LAUGHING]
JOYCE: NOW, YOU'VE PROBABLY HEARD ME TELL THIS STORY,
BUT IT'S WORTH REPEATING.
FORTY-SOME-ODD YEARS AGO, I GUESS ABOUT FORTY-TWO YEARS AGO,
WHEN I FIRST GOT A REAL INTEREST IN STUDYING THE WORD--YOU KNOW,
STUDYING THE WORD IS DANGEROUS BECAUSE YOU START TO KNOW TRUTH.
AND, BOY, THEN WHEN YOU KNOW IT, YOU BECOME RESPONSIBLE
FOR IT.
AND SO, THEN YOU CAN'T PULL THE IGNORANCE CARD ANYMORE.
YOU KNOW, GOD GAVE PAUL MERCY WHEN HE WAS PERSECUTED IN
THE CHURCH BECAUSE HE HAD ZEAL WITHOUT KNOWLEDGE.
HE WAS IGNORANT.
HE ACTUALLY REALLY THOUGHT HE WAS DOING THE RIGHT THING.
SO SOMETIMES WHEN WE TRULY DON'T KNOW, GOD WILL GIVE US A LONGER
PERIOD OF GRACE.
BUT EVERY TIME YOU WALK INTO A CHURCH BUILDING, EVERY TIME YOU
TURN A TELEVISION SET ON WHERE SOMEBODY'S PREACHING, EVERY TIME
YOU READ A CHRISTIAN BOOK, EVERY TIME YOU LISTEN TO A CHRISTIAN
CD OR WATCH A DVD, YOU NOT ONLY HEAR SOMETHING THAT'S
INTERESTING, YOU GET A NEW RESPONSIBILITY.
[AUDIENCE APPLAUDING]
JOYCE: WHAT DO YOU THINK WOULD HAPPEN IN OUR WORLD IF
EVERY TIME WE REALLY BELIEVED THAT GOD TOLD US TO DO OR NOT TO
DO SOMETHING, WE JUST DIDN'T ARGUE, WE JUST DID EXACTLY
WHAT HE SAID?
COME ON, YOU ALREADY KNOW HOW MUCH FURTHER ALONG YOU WOULD BE.
CAN I TELL YOU A SECRET THAT I'VE LEARNED?
I'VE BEEN AROUND A WHILE, LONGER THAN A LOT OF YOU HAVE, AND
HERE'S THE SECRET I'VE LEARNED.
GOD IS NOT GONNA CHANGE HIS MIND.
[AUDIENCE APPLAUDING]
JOYCE: SO IF THERE'S ANY CHANGING TO BE DONE, IT'S GONNA
HAVE TO BE ON US.
SO ANYWAY, I WAS CONVINCED 42 YEARS AGO THAT ALL OF MY
PROBLEMS, MY TEMPER, MY SELFISH ATTITUDE--WELL, NO, I DIDN'T
EVEN THINK I HAD THAT YET.
I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW ABOUT THAT YET.
[AUDIENCE LAUGHING]
JOYCE: MY TEMPER, MY UNHAPPINESS, MY GRUMPINESS.
IT WAS ALL, ALL DAVE'S FAULT.
[AUDIENCE LAUGHING]
JOYCE: EVERY BIT OF IT.
HE PLAYED TOO MUCH GOLF.
HE WASN'T AGGRESSIVE ENOUGH.
HE WATCHED TOO MUCH FOOTBALL.
HE GOOFED AROUND TOO MUCH.
HE WASN'T AS SERIOUS MINDED AS I WANTED HIM TO BE.
DIDN'T HELP AROUND THE HOUSE LIKE I WANTED HIM TO, ON AND ON
AND ON.
SO ONE DAY, I AM PRAYIN'.
NOW, I HAVE LEARNED HOW TO PRAY.
I'M A CHARISMATIC CHRISTIAN.
I HAVE LEARNED HOW TO PRAY.
AND, I MEAN, I WAS GOIN' FOR IT.
"I REBUKE YOU, SATAN."
[AUDIENCE LAUGHING]
JOYCE: "I RESIST YOU, IN JESUS'S NAME.
OH, GOD, GOD, MY GOD, YOU'VE GOT TO CHANGE DAVE."
[AUDIENCE LAUGHING]
JOYCE: I MEAN, I HAD ALL THE EMOTION, EVERYTHING, AND I KINDA
FELT LIKE GOD WAS TRYIN' TO GET MY ATTENTION OR SOMETHIN',
BUT I WAS TOO BUSY PRAYIN'.
[AUDIENCE LAUGHING]
JOYCE: COME ON, YOU EVER GET SO BUSY PRAYIN', YOU CAN'T EVEN
LISTEN TO GOD WHEN YOU'RE PRAYIN'?
[AUDIENCE LAUGHING]
JOYCE: AND HERE'S WHAT GOD SAID TO ME.
YES, GOD SPOKE TO ME.
THIS IS WHAT GOD SAID TO ME: "THE PROBLEM IS NOT DAVE."
[AUDIENCE CHEERING]
JOYCE: NOW, HERE WAS MY NEXT THOUGHT:
"WELL, THEN, WHO IS IT?"
[AUDIENCE LAUGHING]
JOYCE: I COULD NOT EVEN BEGIN TO CONCEIVE IN MY WILDEST
IMAGINATION THAT IT COULD BE ME.
[AUDIENCE LAUGHING]
JOYCE: NOW, BELOVED BROTHERS AND SISTERS--
[AUDIENCE LAUGHING]
JOYCE: THAT IS CALLED "DECEPTION."
[AUDIENCE LAUGHING]
[AUDIENCE APPLAUDING]
JOYCE: AND SO I ASKED GOD, "WELL, IF IT'S ME,
THEN SHOW ME."
BAD PRAYER.
[AUDIENCE LAUGHING]
JOYCE: BAD PRAYER.
SO FOR THE NEXT THREE DAYS, GOD REVEALED TO ME WHAT IT WAS LIKE
TO LIVE WITH ME.
[AUDIENCE LAUGHING]
JOYCE: COME ON, AM I TALKIN' TO ANYBODY OUT THERE TODAY?
[AUDIENCE CHEERING]
JOYCE: AND I CRIED FOR THREE DAYS.
I MEAN, I JUST CRIED FOR THREE DAYS.
THAT'S ALL I DID WAS CRY.
NOW, I'D LIKE TO SAY THAT THAT ONE TEARFUL EVENT CHANGED ME.
[AUDIENCE LAUGHING]
JOYCE: BUT IT DIDN'T.
IT SHOWED ME SOME THINGS, BUT IT THEN IT TOOK ME A LONG TIME TO
APPLY EACH ONE OF THOSE THINGS TO MY LIFE.
SO LET ME ASK YOU AGAIN.
HOW MANY OF YOU NEED A BREAKTHROUGH?
[AUDIENCE APPLAUDING]
JOYCE: HOW MANY OF YOU ARE PRAYING AND ASKING GOD
FOR A BREAKTHROUGH?
[AUDIENCE APPLAUDING]
JOYCE: HOW MANY OF YOU ARE NOW REALIZING THAT YOU'RE GOING
TO HAVE TO TAKE SOME RESPONSIBILITY?
OH, GOOD, ABOUT HALF OF THE PEOPLE WHO NEED A BREAKTHROUGH.
[AUDIENCE LAUGHING]
JOYCE: "IF YOU CONTINUE IN MY WORD, THEN ARE YOU MY
DISCIPLES INDEED.
AND YOU WILL KNOW THE TRUTH, AND THE TRUTH WILL MAKE YOU FREE."
BUT IT'S NOT JUST HEARING THE TRUTH THAT MAKES US FREE.
IT'S OBEYING THE TRUTH THAT WE HEAR THAT MAKES US FREE.
EVEN THOUGH PAINFUL, I'D LIKE TO ASK YOU TODAY TO FORGET
EVERYONE'S PART IN YOUR PROBLEM EXCEPT YOUR OWN.
SAY IT AGAIN.
EVEN THOUGH IT'S PAINFUL, MAY NOT SEEM FAIR, MAKE A DECISION
TO FORGET EVERYBODY'S PART IN YOUR PROBLEM EXCEPT YOUR OWN.
[AUDIENCE APPLAUDING]
JOYCE: NOW, YOU SEE, AS SOON AS WE SAY THAT, RIGHT AWAY, WE
THINK, "WELL, THEN THEY'RE JUST GONNA GET BY WITH WHAT THEY DID,
AND THAT'S NOT RIGHT."
COME ON NOW.
GOD IS OUR VINDICATOR.
GOD WILL DEAL WITH OUR ENEMIES, BUT HE WON'T UNTIL WE STOP
TRYING TO.
[AUDIENCE APPLAUDING]
JOYCE: GOD IS OUR VINDICATOR.
HE IS A GOD OF JUSTICE.
HE'S THE ONE WHO MAKES WRONG THINGS RIGHT.
I READ THIS RECENTLY.
IT WASN'T EVEN IN A CHRISTIAN ARTICLE, BUT I THOUGHT IT WAS
A GREAT STATEMENT.
"THE FIRST THING YOU MUST DO IF YOU EVER INTEND TO HAVE ANY
FREEDOM OVER BONDAGES IS YOU HAVE TO TAKE 100% RESPONSIBILITY
FOR WHERE YOUR LIFE IS AT RIGHT NOW."
[AUDIENCE APPLAUDING]
JOYCE: WELL, DO YOU KNOW HOW HARD THAT IS?
BECAUSE YOU KNOW HOW LONG IT TOOK ME TO GET THERE?
I MEAN, "I'M THIS WAY BECAUSE MY DAD SEXUALLY ABUSED ME.
I'M THIS WAY BECAUSE MY MOTHER ABANDONED ME, KNEW WHAT HE WAS
DOING, AND WOULDN'T HELP ME.
I'M THIS WAY BECAUSE MY FIRST HUSBAND WAS A CON MAN
AND A PETTY THIEF, AND HE RAN AROUND WITH OTHER WOMEN.
I'M THIS WAY BECAUSE, AND I'M THIS WAY BECAUSE, AND I'M THIS
WAY BECAUSE."
AND YOU KNOW WHAT THE LORD FINALLY PUT ON MY HEART?
"THAT'S TRUE, THAT'S TRUE, THAT'S WHY YOU ARE THE WAY YOU
ARE, BUT DON'T LET IT BECOME AN EXCUSE TO STAY THAT WAY."
[AUDIENCE APPLAUDING]
JOYCE: NOW, I WANT YOU TO REMEMBER THAT KNOWING THE TRUTH
AND TAKING THE RESPONSIBILITY TO ACT ON IT ARE IMPORTANT KEYS TO
BREAKTHROUGH.
WE HAVE A GREAT EXAMPLE OF THAT WITH CHRISTIAN SINGER
NATALIE GRANT'S STORY.
I HOPE THIS WILL INSPIRE YOU ON YOUR OWN JOURNEY TO
BREAKTHROUGH, AND THEN I'LL BE BACK WITH SOME FINAL THOUGHTS IN
JUST A FEW MINUTES.
♪ JESUS, JESUS ♪ GINGER: ONE OF THE MOST
RECOGNIZED AND CELEBRATED VOICES IN THE CHRISTIAN MUSIC INDUSTRY,
NATALIE GRANT IS NO STRANGER TO SUCCESS.
♪ OOH, OOH ♪ NATALIE: ARE YOU GOIN'
THROUGH A STORM?
SING IT OUT ♪ OOH, OOH ♪
NATALIE: HE'LL FIND YOU.
SING IT OUT.
GINGER: THIS SEVEN-TIME DOVE AWARD RECIPIENT HAS
SEEN MANY VICTORIES IN HER LIFE.
BUT AS SHE SAYS, "THERE'S NO VICTORY WITHOUT THE BATTLE."
SO, AMONGST ALL THE LIMELIGHT IS A LIFE CHANGED THROUGH
DIFFICULTIES.
NATALIE: I DON'T EVEN REMOTELY VIEW MYSELF AS A SINGER
NOW, I SING.
I'M A TRUTH TELLER.
I'M A TRUTH TELLER, AND I JUST USE THE VOICE THAT GOD GAVE ME
TO DO IT.
♪ FOUND IN THE NAME ♪ ♪ OF JESUS. ♪
NATALIE: I'LL JUST NEVER FORGET GETTING THAT PHONE CALL,
AND THEY SAID, "HEY, AND IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S TWO SPOTS ON
THE RIGHT SIDE OF YOUR THYROID.
THAT LOOKED LIKE CANCER."
GINGER: SURGERY COULD RUIN HER VOCAL CHORDS.
FEAR ATTACKED QUICKLY, BUT NATALIE KNEW DELIVERANCE WOULD
COME THROUGH OBEDIENCE.
NATALIE: HE BEGAN TO SHOW ME WHAT IT MEANS TO TAKE EVERY
THOUGHT CAPTIVE.
SO I BEGAN TO WRITE DOWN THE TRUTH OF GOD.
I BEGAN TO WRITE IT DOWN ON NOTECARDS.
I BEGAN TO WRITE IT ON--STICK IT ON STICKY NOTES ON MY MIRROR.
I PUT IT EVERYWHERE.
AND AS SOON AS THOUGHTS WOULD COME INTO MY MIND, I WOULD
ACTUALLY REPLACE THEM WITH THE TRUTH.
♪ YOU MAKE ME CLEAN ♪
GINGER: SURGERY A SUCCESS,
VOICE INTACT, RELATIONSHIP WITH GOD STRENGTHENED, BUT NOT
BECAUSE ALL WENT AS PLANNED.
NATALIE: I REMEMBER LAYING IN MY BED--I REMEMBER LAYING IN MY
BED, AND I JUST THOUGHT, "LORD, PLEASE DON'T TAKE ME FROM MY
CHILDREN, AND PLEASE DON'T TAKE THIS THING THAT I USE TO TELL
PEOPLE ABOUT YOU."
AND THEN I WAS REALIZING THAT I WAS ASKING FOR ALL OF THESE
THINGS FOR ME, THAT I WAS AT THE CENTER OF ALL OF MY PRAYERS.
ALL: [SQUEALING]
NATALIE: I HAD TO ALLOW HIM TO DO SOMETHING IN MY HEART AND
LIFE BEFORE I GOT TO THE ANSWER, BEFORE I GOT TO THE MIRACLE,
AND THAT WAS THAT HE IS GOOD, NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENS IN MY LIFE,
THAT HIS GOODNESS IS NOT DEFINED BY MY CIRCUMSTANCES, THAT MY
OUTCOME DOES NOT DETERMINE HIS GOODNESS.
♪ JESUS, JESUS ♪ ♪ HOW I TRUST HIM ♪
GINGER: AND THIS UNDERSTANDING IS WHAT SHE WANTS
TO SHARE WITH ANYONE WHO WILL LISTEN.
IT'S ALSO WHY THIS AWARD-WINNING SUCCESSFUL ARTIST, WIFE, AND
MOTHER OF THREE DESCRIBES HERSELF AS SIMPLY,
"A TRUTH TELLER."
NATALIE: VICTORIES ARE WONDERFUL, AND THANK YOU, JESUS,
THAT HE DOES DELIVER US AND BRING US THE VICTORY, BUT IT'S
IN THE BATTLE THAT WE NOT ONLY LEARN ABOUT WHO GOD IS, BUT WE
LEARN WHO WE REALLY ARE.
♪ MORE ♪♪ JOYCE: WELL, YOU CAN SEE MORE
OF NATALIE'S STORY ON OUR WEBSITE AND YOUTUBE.
TODAY, I TAUGHT ON THE KEYS TO BREAKTHROUGH, AND NOW I WANNA
OFFER YOU A RESOURCE THAT I BELIEVE WILL REALLY MAKE
A DIFFERENCE IN YOUR LIFE.
IT'S ONE OF MY VERY FAVORITE SUBJECTS, "NEVER GIVE UP!"
THIS IS A PAPERBACK BOOK, AND I THINK THAT READING THIS CAN HELP
YOU IN SO MANY DIFFERENT AREAS OF YOUR LIFE.
THE ONE THING THE DEVIL WANTS US TO DO IS GIVE UP, BUT ONE OF
THE THINGS THAT GOD NEVER WANTS US TO DO IS GIVE UP.
AND ANYBODY WHO WILL REFUSE TO GIVE UP WILL ULTIMATELY HAVE
THE VICTORY THAT THEY DESIRE.
WE'RE OFFERING THIS TO YOU TODAY FOR YOUR GIFT TO THE MINISTRY OF
ANY AMOUNT.
OF COURSE, WE REALLY ENCOURAGE YOU TO BE AS GENEROUS AS YOU
POSSIBLY CAN BE.
THAT WAY, THE BOOK'S AVAILABLE TO LOTS OF PEOPLE, NO MATTER
THEIR INCOME LEVEL.
SO LET'S NOT LET ANYTHING KEEP US FROM A GREAT LIFE WITH GOD.
JAMIE: THIS BOOK HELPED ME OVERCOME SO MANY OBSTACLES.
IT ALSO INSPIRED ME TO RUN MY FIRST MARATHON.
SUMMER: I GOT THIS BOOK IN THE BEGINNING OF MY JOURNEY INTO
RECOVERY.
IT HELD ME UP AND IT HELPED ME PERSEVERE THROUGH THE STRUGGLE
OF STAYING CLEAN.
GEORGETTE: THIS BOOK HELPED ME THROUGH SO MUCH, AND WHENEVER
I START TO GIVE UP, I READ IT AGAIN.
ANNOUNCER: "NEVER GIVE UP!" PROVIDES SOLID BIBLICAL TOOLS TO
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