ISE Amstgerdam 2018 Integrated Sstems Europe SAI you
hey I'm upping back to the home tech X always good to see you guys here you can
tell by the smile on my face I am still vibrant excited unbelievably over the
moon from that last interview with anybody the ocala maracas aren't so much
grief you know interview with Theo it was fantastic I think he's got a great
way of expressing and just putting it all together in words for us Chris yeah
I just looked at the animation the energy the passion of the guy you know
after a long career in home theater to still have that that drive to produce
the best product for for the homeowner to create that best experience it's just
it's viral it's really it's really rubbed off for me and you know in the 48
hours since we spoke with them but you know what this guy is unstoppable we our
audience should know that we prepared maybe 15 different questions for him and
actually we just asked we've been able to ask what one question is each just
like that all time yes we should have him again and then ask him to answer
just one minute per question you know just just one minute and then we could
have our answer but that that guy is just wonderful you you are literally
growing and listening to him you can't do it in passion can't be no you can't
limit that you can't try and box that up it's difficult yeah but before we get
too too crazy you guys check out that video by the Ocala miraculous it's an
excellent if you could find that on our channel so Bruno I i'm unfortunately
having to tell you that you have to follow that up with some crazy passion
and creativity i have not had the experience of going to ISC i barely i
probably only know what the initial stand for and i hope that we could talk
about this charles it seems to be important part of the world over in
europe and please tell us what you went through and if anybody else can chime in
chris how many words thank you rob
so there is two major show about electronic in the world our audience
might know the CES the Consumer Electronics Show in Las Vegas every year
because this is where all the consumers devices are shown every year there is
all the TV in the world that are that are there so there is a lot of big
coverage but about the Consumer Electronics Show
usually the Consumer Electronics Show is about the the gears that consumer will
be able to buy and install by themselves okay it's all the stuff that we will
find in every every shop around the world and the ISC
is is 10 stands for integrated system Europe is e is for all the the
electronic stuffs that people cannot install by themselves they should use a
custom installer of a home technology professional to install so there is
really two type of electronic stuff this thing the thing that you can buy on
stores by ourselves and this the things that require a certain knowledge and
certain trainings twin styles and this is everything that you find at IAC IAC
you will not find for example you will not find the booth of Yamaha then on an
uncle with the AV receivers you will not find this you will find all the crazy
tools all the special home automation systems that requires a professional to
install something else about is C is also that is C is a joint venture I
don't know if I can say this is a joint venture between the Cydia and a vixa
it Alex Alex eyes everything electronic for professionals
I mean you will find everything about digital signage everything about video
conference you know stuff that we don't use in
residential and the other side of the show is everything about residential you
will find all the latest home automation stuff
so everything that electricians will buy and install in home and that's that's
very interesting to have this this commercial and residential show in the
same place because when you are custom installed or when you are home
technology professional you will find sometimes a lot of solutions in the
commercial in the commercial ways in the commercial part of the show so it's a
very very big shoe it's absolutely huge of course it's maybe I don't know five
or six times smaller than CES in Las Vegas but CES is it's a city by itself
so oh sorry I didn't mention it so the show is in Amsterdam the show is in
Amsterdam in Europe in the Netherlands and believe me it was cold there it was
very not like oh it was cold and the show is so big now that they have to
build outside of the of the convention centers they have to build I don't know
how to say it in English Chris help me some external tent you know some some
how do you say this external it temporary structures yes
temporary Strutters because the the show is so big that no one can fit inside I
read there was 80 over 80,000 visitors this year absolutely
oh yes it was it was three days and two years ago they decided to make it four
days now and I'm attending this show since I mean
it's the seven verse yes I think it's sevens yearning the row that I'm going
there and so Bruno let me ask you for is e is there a membership that people sign
up for or participate in with is e like there is with what we have here in the
states with CDL for is see you should be a professional okay anyone can go if you
are a professional you are not supposed to be member of any organization okay
you do not you do not need to be member of a big sigh or you do not need to be
member of the CDI open to the public no open to professionals if you're not a
professional you do not have a business card you cannot go in no I've also
visited I see a number of times over the last five years and the fortune I
couldn't make it this year due to other commitments I followed your progress on
social media you took so many pictures so many selfies you interviewed some
people and you know I even noticed that you you did some training you taught a
course at the event on behalf of cedia can you tell us a little bit more about
this course that you talk yes so about selfie I know this is this is
one of my problem I have to see I have to see a psychologist about this because
I just love making selfies so maybe one day I will I will stop this but for the
moment it's it's a it's a it's a problem
you
and regarding these schools yes I was teaching a course for Cydia
about service and maintenance in our audio video at home automation industry
there is a lack of culture about service and maintenance and the whole point of
my my course was to explain to custom installers that today they are not doing
home entertainment anymore and no home entertainment can be dangerous for a
house but now that we can control absolutely everything in a house we can
remotely open the doors we can remotely turn of the lights we can remotely do
anything it's like it's not it's not the same responsibilities for home
technology professionals and I teach them how to talk about service and
maintenance and how to sell service and maintenance for every to every homeowner
it's a little it's a it's a challenge but we are starting to create this
culture and homeowners should also understand that a connected house is not
protected unless you have a professional that is taking care of this house I know
you or you had a special outfit for your training course what was the teacher
yes absolutely I had that I do not have it tonight but I were my my special
Gaffa t-shirt for my family for my course and Gotha stands for Google
Amazon Facebook and Apple the big four the big four companies from the West
that are that that dominate is that is that a good world that's a great word
yes dominate the world the world a term that you've you've been tagged with you
introduced it a lot of people industry but at the show is e where any of the
gaffer companies there so over the you know you know they're well-known for
their voice assistant these companies were they you know all over the show it
on various stands or were they actually there themselves these brands so that's
a good question so the Gaffa absolutely the gaffer we're all at CES okay because
the gaff a products anyone can buy it in every entry website
online or at any any onion so any shop but at ISC no gaff I were present I mean
you could not find Amazon booth you could not find Google booth Apple we do
not we do not talk about Apple they never go to any convention but the the
gaffer were not here in with a booth but they were here in the spirit because
today absolutely every professional manufacturer should be compatible
with the operating system absolutely so today if you are a manufacturer of
anything whatever you should be compatible with Google Amazon Facebook
or Apple stuff so that was quite fun to see all those manufacturers compatible
with or work with Google or Amazon and even so knows you know what I'm quite
sure that we can say that Sonos is part of the Gaffa because today if you have a
home automation system if it's not compatible with Sonos no one will buy it
no one even if it's a highly technical high-end for very rich people if it's
not compatible with Sonos no one will buy it so they were not there but they
were absolutely everywhere so Bruno are you saying you're adding to the gatha
and adding an S for gatha's ok we can add to get as Logitech we can add Sonos
we can add Samsung one day one day or another we will add certainly Microsoft
sorry maybe Netflix so in the end with all the name of the company is going to
be a very long acronym so another podcast and the term they use with GAF
azzam yes yes with with Samsung and microscopic it was gaff asthma
absolutely but it's a family show so so yes actually I'm quite sure that one day
on other IKEA you know will be part of the Gaffa because they are working a lot
you know undercover with with solos for example I'm not sure
if everyone saw this but I key I is working in partnership with solos so one
day or another I think IKEA will be part of the gafas we've mentioned a lot of
brands they have probably one of the most well known brands to homeowners for
lighting is dilute Ron well known long history and the dimming and control of
lights you had a chance to speak to Sam Woodward from Neutron Greenock yes
absolutely Sam Woodward is just an incredible guy he is what I call a
storyteller you know he can talk to you like feel you know it it's the same the
guy know how to talk to people and how to explain his teaching a lot of classes
for Cydia and he was kind enough to to to give me a just six or seven minutes
in the in the route home booth to explain to our audience what is RIT home
what have they done and he was also talking to me about the intensity and
temperature of colors so let's listen to him right now and some I would like to
explain to your to our audience today in very short term what is home well if
you've heard about controlling lighting then you'll have heard about neutral up
half a century ago founder of Luke I called John Spiro invented the very
first dimmer so every rotary dimmer that you see has descended directly or
indirectly from that invention about half a century ago if you were doing
lighting you'd use big resistors he changed the world by inventing
solid-state controlled lighting and as light sources
have evolved some of the dimmers the controller so nowadays of course we have
a lot of solid-state lighting LED lighting and which one is controlling
that as well that's that's very interesting so you basically invented
the diming absolutely okay so now Lutron is also now manufacture a lot
manufacturing a lot of devices to control lightning I think that may be
what 95% of what you're doing of what your manufacturing should be installed
by a professional lighting is one of those aspects in the in the home way of
still moving real quantities of power they've big apps around although we're
seeing a very interesting trend we're seeing a decline in the power that's
required for lighting because of solid-state lighting but we're seeing an
increase in the number of independent zones that are controllable so you've
got a lot more granularity a lot of control of individual circuits or zones
whereas previously everyone had one big light now it might have half a dozen
smaller zones that get controlled so it's making a fascinating transition in
the industry in fact we're seeing really three
revolutions going on in lighting we're seeing revolution in light sources we're
seeing revolution networking which is evident across the industry are now you
talk to a lot of people about networking reliability yeah and of course the
revolution and user interfaces so a light switch on the wall isn't now the
only way of controlling lighting remote controls you've got voice you've got
apps you've got all kinds of different ways of controlling lighting but the key
has ever is to make an user interface but people find it easy to use what is
going to do yet the user interface that people want to use absolutely yes for
our audience for our audience also I think that people in USA they can find
also some real device in some shop to install it themselves absolutely yes
over in the USA about the size of range that's very popular
any integration themselves and where where can they find it
Oh many of the big box stores okay so today I'm with Sam and I would like Sam
to talk to us about this new circadian lightning feature that you have here at
you know please when you think about lighting control think about light you
used to think well how bright is it short but there's a lot more to it than
that's in the same way as if you think about sound it's not just about how loud
or how quiet it is it's about all aspects of creating your your high
fidelity sound we work with the lighting it's no longer just about how bright or
dim it is it's also about what color temperature it is and I can demonstrate
that by changing the color temperature of the lighting in this room whatever
how your camera is reacting to that but we now live by 1800 Kelvin light that's
a very warm color temperature and we can change that if I press this button the
light is going to gradually transition to a very cold light we're now lit by
about a thousand Kelvin so okay color temperature we haven't changed the
intensity we've just changed the color temperature color temperature is is that
other aspect of light that we can give to people to control so now they have a
very much broader palette of options so I might say well I'd like my life to be
at a very cool talent color temperature but over a very low intensity or I might
say I'd like it to be a very cool color temperature sorry at a very warm color
temperature but a low intensity or a moon color temperature and a high
intensity and of course everywhere in between so lammott is no longer just
about how bright it is it's about that other aspect and of course that that has
an effect you're very much so now precisely what effect it has that the
curious still out to some extent because it's it's a combination of the amount of
light you get kind of a dosage the lux level you're exposed to for a period of
time and when we go outside in the sunshine if we go out early in the
morning then they'll be very cold color temperature
light and and that helps our bodies to recognize that and to wake up and as you
go through the day and the Sun moves through the through the sky and as the
light is is going through the atmosphere it'll change to a warmer color
temperatures that lovely great sky in the evening and it helps you to
obviously sunlight is a very high dosage but we can simulate if lighting
designers wish to we can simulate those circadian rhythms as they're known by
sequencing the color temperature and intensity of light and the key thing
that we're talking about here on the little moon is the ability to control
temperature and brightness independently there's been a fair amount of color
tuning done in the past with a woman Channel in the cold channel but if you
wanted to maintain a color temperature and dip up and down you really need to
have one controller color one controller but of course all that can be automated
in two sequences you mean that this can help us to wake up in a better mood and
and and and help us to go to sleep the sunlight certainly does that and we
can simulate the the similar effect with lighting in terms of whether it actually
has that photo biological response as I said it's all to do with the actual
dosage of light so the dim light we might not have been we might have
indoors may not have that effect entirely but certainly if a license
design that requires it so I'm not making any scientific claims that are
fog to biological but I'm saying we have a wonderful palette with which we can we
can create these okay some very very interesting thank you very much for
spending five minutes with us always a pleasure
okay I'm gonna say hi to our our audience and we were here at ISC 2018 in
Amsterdam goodbye thank you bye Brunel it was a great interview with mr.
Woodward am I saying his name right Woodward
yes Woodward and it's interesting because you know just a few years ago we
were just walk into a room turn the light switch on and now we're
doing with different temperature sets different temperatures of lighting and
the brightness of the alighting and how that you guys how it affects your asleep
or how it affects your waking up and your mood all the during all day right
you guys find anything like that the market in Houston JJ you know it's
something that I'm personally new in breaking into but I see the need for
that type of lighting solution in different buy in different environments
especially in markets or food markets to where you can really bring and pop those
colors or even in art for some of the high-end clients or even in personal
homes for just everyday use having the correct tonality to help moods it's a
very interesting study of the science of light and how it helps you but love to
learn how to implement it more into our projects JJ in Houston Texas the Sun
shines every day you don't need you don't need color temperature you don't
need that just enjoy the Sun of Texas just a tip for any homeowners watching
this there is an inexpensive way to actually introduce different color
temperatures and brightness temperature and to your home and I've always found
the Philips hue ambience range very good at providing that orange warm white
colors and but can go all the way down to a very cold cool white color and we
use it for our customers and we try and use motion sensors to trigger to trigger
lights or timers to trigger lights so that if they are turned on in the
morning there might be a more energizing bluer colder white and then when lights
are turned on in an EM the lights are actually a lower brightness and a much
warmer orange light just to aid you know you may be progressing through to the
end of the day when you when you're going to head to bed
and we can do that with you know less than a hundred pounds for a hub and a
couple of bulbs you could you could have a real experiment with with the effects
on it maybe maybe put them in a bathroom maybe have them in your bedside table
lamps there are ways to experiment with um yep and and actually for the moment
it's still a little expensive and I'm quite sure that in two or three maybe
four yard is gonna be you know it's gonna be in every house like like you
know like if it's normal it almost changes with culture to because I know
here in the US we like a twenty three or 3500 Kelvin rating which is that nice
yellow glow Chris was talking about but over an eighth did they change the
drastic main go to about a five thousand maybe even a sixty five hundred where
it's that real bright white that we find you're taking here so it's interesting
when you have a different culture in the area and they were my lighting design
you really have to think about what's the Kelvin rate where we're gonna go
with that which with blue transfer solution that you don't have to you can
change on the fly very cool yep absolutely Bruno I know you tried
it's very difficult to follow up Theo was really excited to listen to some of
the things that was going on at ISC especially for those of us that have
never been and I look forward to seeing some more pictures and videos especially
the one that you called your favorite digital art digital aren't yet buy new
I'm we're going to have the the bus of the of Neil on our show very very soon
very cool so I'm Robert the tech reps you can find us at the tech reps on any
social media platform and as a group you can find us on all social media
platforms home tech X we look through the social media platforms for that
hashtag hoping for some questions hoping to help you guys out I know we go a
little bit too deep sometimes but we're here to help you guys
if people want to find me on social media you can find me at Bruno Nepal
Ebru and oh and apol I am on Twitter and people can reach me there I'm JJ came in
with digital overline you can find us on Facebook or Instagram or Twitter as well
and I've been Chris Campbell from customized best place to catch up with
us is Saturday is 12 p.m. UK time Facebook live put me on the spot asked
me to tech questions that you've got I'm here to help you
alright ladies and gentlemen that's so for tonight goodbye thanks
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