>>> THIS IS WHY WE HAVE COURTS, THE OVER REACH OF PRESIDENT AND
ATTORNEY GENERAL WHO DON'T UNDERSTAND THE CONSTITUTION OR
CHOOSE TO IGNORE IT. >> THE FEDERAL JUDGE IN
CALIFORNIA TODAY DELIVERED THE LEGAL RESISTANCE TO PRESIDENT
TRUMP'S EXECUTIVE ORDER TO WITHHOLD FEDERAL FUNDING FROM
SANG WARE CITIES. HE ISSUED A NATIONWIDE
INJUNCTION AGAINST ENFORCEMENT OF THAT EXECUTIVE ORDER.
IN HIS OPINION, THE JUDGE WROTE FEDERAL FUNDING THAT BEARS NO
MEANINGFUL TO IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT CANNOT BE THREATEN
MERELY BECAUSE IT IS BECAUSE OF THE PRESIDENT WAS PROVED.
ATTORNEY GENERAL JEFF SESSIONS JUSTICE DEPARTMENT ARGUED THAT
THE VAGUENESS OF THE EXECUTIVE ORDER MEANT THAT THE CIT CITY A
THE COUNTY HAD NO REASON TO SUE BECAUSE THERE WAS NO REASON FOR
THEM TO ASSUME THAT THE EXECUTIVE ORDER APPLIED TO THEM.
TRYING TO DEFEND THE CONSTITUTIONALITY OF AN
EXECUTIVE ORDER BY SAYING THE EXECUTIVE ORDER IS SO VAGUE, NO
ONE KNOWS WHAT IT MEANS, THEREFORE, HOW CAN YOU OBJECT TO
IT, IS THE NEW LOW IN LEGAL PLEADINGS FILED BY THE JUSTICE
DEPARTMENT, BUT SUCH IS THE LEGAL REASONING OF JEFF
SESSIONS. THE JUDGE FOUND THAT THE
VAGUENESS OF THE EXECUTIVE ORDER WAS ONE OF ITS MAJOR PROBLEMS,
SAYING THAT NO CITY OR TOWN COULD KNOW IF THE EXECUTIVE
ORDER APPLIES TO IT, BECAUSE THE ORDER DOESN'T DEFINE WHAT A
SANCTUARY CITY IS. THE JUDGE WROTE, THE RESULT OF
THIS SCHIZOPHRENIC APPROACH TO THIS ORDER, THE COUNTS
REASONABLY FEAR ENFORCEMENT OF THE ORDER.
THE JUDGE CITED STATEMENTS THAT DONALD TRUMP MADE TO BILL
O'REILLY AS REASONS FOR EVERY CITY AND TOWN AND COUNTY TO FEAR
THE TRUMP EXECUTIVE ORDER. >> AS YOU KNOW, I'M VERY MUCH
OPPOSED TO SANCTUARY CITIES. THIS BREED CRIMES, IF WE'LL HAVE
TO WE'LL DEFUND. >> YOU'RE GOING TO DEFEND.
>> CALIFORNIA IS IN MANY WAYS IS OUT OF CONTROL.
I DON'T WANT TO DEFUND ANYBODY. I WANT TO GIVE THEM THE MONEY
THEY NEED. IF THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE
SANCTUARY CITIES, WE MAY HAVE TO DO THAT, CERTAINLY THAT WOULD BE
A WEAPON. >> JOINING US NOW, HE'S THE
MAYOR OF PROVIDENCE RHODE ISLAND.
HE'S A CONSTITUTIONAL LAW PROFESSOR AT ROGER WILLIAMS
UNIVERSITY, SCHOOL OF LAW. >> KEVIN DELEON IS THE
DEMOCRATIC STATE SENATE LEADER. SENATOR, I WANT TO ASK YOU THIS
CASE THAT GOT THE INJUNCTION TODAY AS A CALIFORNIA CASE.
WHEN WE SAW THAT A FEDERAL JUDGE IN HAWAII RULED AGAINST THE
IMMIGRATION ORDER, JEFF SESSIONS SAID HOW CAN A JUDGE IN THE
MIDDLE OF THE PACIFIC DO THAT. I'M WAITING FOR JEFF SESSIONS TO
SAY, HOW CAN A JUDGE, IN A PLACE THAT USE TO BE MEXICO, ISSUE A
RULING LIKE THIS. WHAT ARE YOU EXPECTING AS THE
JUSTICE DEPARTMENT'S NEXT STEP? >> WELL, I CAN TELL YOU,
LAWRENCE, THE LAST TIME I WAS WITH YOU, I SAID VERY CLEARLY
THAT ANY ATTEMPT TO COERCE STATE GOVERNMENTS AND LOCAL
GOVERNMENTS TO BE AN EXTENSION OF THE FEDERAL IMMIGRATION
AUTHORITIES TO BE CAUGHT IN A TRUMP DEPORTATION MACHINE WILL
BE MET WITH LEGAL RESISTANCE. THIS IS A HUGE VICTORY OF THE
COUNTY, SANTA CLARA IN THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA AND FOR ALL
AMERICANS WHO BELIEVE IN JUSTICE, THIS IS, AGAIN, ANOTHER
ATTEMPT MY PRESIDENT TRUMP AS WELL AS SESSIONS TO THREATEN
LOCAL CITIES AND STATES THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY.
AND ONCE AGAIN, THEY HAVE TRIPPED OVER THE CONSTITUTION.
NOW, JEFF SESSIONS HAD BEEN MAKING THREAT AFTER THREAT AFTER
THREAT TO CALIFORNIA AND TO OTHER MUNICIPALITIES THROUGHOUT
THE COUNTRY. THREATENING TO WITHHOLD FEDERAL
DOLLARS, NEEDED DOLLARS TO DO THEIR JOB TO PROTECT AND SERVE
OUR COMMUNITIES. MONEYS THAT ARE NEEDED FOR HUMAN
TRAFFICKING, MONEYS THAT ARE NEEDED FOR DRUG TRAFFICKING, AS
WELL AS TERRORISM. SO BY THREATENING CITIES AND
STATES BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO BE A -- CAUGHT IN THE TRUMP
DEPORTATION MACHINE, IS BOTH ILLEGAL, AS WELL AS
UNCONSTITUTIONAL. LET ME SAY, IT'S UN-AMERICAN
BECAUSE WHAT YOU'RE DOING IS YOU'RE PUTTING STATES AND LOCAL
MUNICIPALITIES IN HARM'S WAY, IN A DANGEROUS POSITION BY
WITHHOLDING THESE QUESTIONS THAT OUR POLICE OFFICERS NEED TO
PROTECT AND SERVE OUR COMMUNITIES.
>> MAYOR, I WANT TO CALL ON YOU NOW AS PROFESSOR AS A
CONSTITUTIONAL SCHOLAR, COUPLE OF THINGS, ONE IS -- SINCE THERE
WAS NO DEFINITION OF SANCTUARY CITY IN THE EXECUTIVE ORDER, HOW
WOULD YOU HAVE INTERPRETED IN RHODE ISLAND, HAD THERE BEEN NO
INJUNCTION. SECONDLY, IS PROVIDENCE A
SANCTUARY CITY, HOW DO YOU DEFINE SANCTUARY CITIES AND IS
THERE A WAY TO DEFINE THEM CONSTITUTIONALLY.
>> WELL, THAT'S WHAT WE'VE BEEN ASKING FOR FOR THE PAST SEVERAL
MONTHS. NOW, LET'S PLEASE GIVE US SOME
CLARITY. LET US KNOW EXACTLY WHAT YOU
MEAN WHEN YOU SAY SANCTUARY CITY.
THE TERM HAS BEEN USED SO MUCH AS A POLITICAL TERM AND WE'RE
USING THE SAME WORDS, BUT IT'S ALMOST AS THOUGH WE'RE SPEAKING
DIFFERENT LANGUAGES AND IT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO HAVE A SENSIBLE
CONVERSATION WHEN YOU DON'T DEFINE THE TERMS PRECISELY.
SO WE'VE BEEN ASKING THE ADMINISTRATION AND A GROUP OF
MAYORS MET WITH ATTORNEY GENERAL JEFF SESSIONS TODAY AND WE ASKED
THEM EXACTLY THAT. >> SO MR. MAYOR, SO YOU HAD A
MEETING WITH JEFF SESSIONS TODAY?
>> WE DID. >> AND IT WAS BEFORE THE JUDGE'S
RULING, WASN'T IT? >> IT WAS BEFORE THE JUDGE'S
RULING. WHAT WE GOT FROM THAT MEETING
WAS, AS CLOSE TO A DEFINITION OF SANCTUARY CITY AS WE'VE HEARD
AND IT WAS DEFINED AS ANY CITY THAT DOESN'T COMPLY WITH SECTION
13-73, WHICH BASICALLY REQUIRES CITIES TO COMMUNICATE THEY HAVE
ABOUT IMMIGRATION STATUS WITH
I.C.E. I KNOW OF NO CITY THAT DOESN'T
COMPLY WITH SECTION 1373. BY THEIR OWN DEFINITION OF
SANCTUARY CITY, THERE IS NO SANCTUARY CITY IN THE UNITED
STATES. SO WHAT WE CONTINUE TO ASK OF
THEM IS, PLEASE GIVE US CLARITY. LET US KNOW WHAT WE'RE TALKING
ABOUT AND THEN WE CAN FIGURE OUT WHERE WE STAND AND DON'T STAND.
PERHAPS MOST IMPORTANTLY, HOW WE CAN WORK TOGETHER.
FOR EXAMPLE, WE ALL HAVE AN INTEREST, OUR MAIN
RESPONSIBILITY AS MAYORS IS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE PROTECT OUR
COMMUNITIES AND PROVIDE PUBLIC SAFETY.
AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL, THEY ALSO SAY THAT'S THEIR EXACT PRIORITY.
THAT'S THEIR SAME GOAL. LET'S FIGURE OUT HOW WE CAN WORK
TOGETHER TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN. IF THEY'RE INSISTING THAT WE
TURN OUR LOCAL COMMUNITIES INTO FEDERAL IMMIGRATION AGENTS.
WELL, THAT'S TAKING PRECIOUS RESOURCES WHERE WE CAN BE
INVESTIGATING SERIOUS CRIMES AND DIVERTING IT TO AREAS THAT JUST
AREN'T A PRIORITY. A PERSON THAT FORGOT TO PUT
THEIR TURN SIGNAL ON IS JUST NOT A PRIORITY IN THE SAME WAY WE
HAVE SERIOUS CRIMINALS. TO THE EXTENT THAT YOU'RE
CHASING PEOPLE UNDER GROUND AND THEY'RE AFRAID TO REPORT CRIMES,
THEY'RE AFRAID TO STEP FORWARD AS WITNESSES TO CRIMES, THAT
MAKES US ALL LESS SAFE. LET'S FIGURE OUT WHAT OUR
PRIORITY IS AND HOW WE CAN WORK TOGETHER TO FOCUS ON SERIOUS
CRIMINALS. >> WHEN YOU HEAR THE MAYOR
DESCRIBING HOW TOOTHLESS THIS EXECUTIVE ORDER WAS, IT STARTS
TO SOUND LIKE IT WAS JUST A STUNT FOR THE TRUMP BASE FOR HIM
TO SAY, LOOK, I DELIVERED ON WHAT I SAID I WOULD DO WITH BILL
O'REILLY. >> WELL, I'LL SAY THIS, I AGREE
WITH MR. MAYOR FROM PROVIDENCE 100%.
I REMEMBER THAT INTERVIEW IT WAS ON SUPER BOWL SUNDAY, WHEN HE
SAID CALIFORNIA WAS QUOTE/UNQUOTE OUT OF CONTROL.
THEY'RE EMPTY THREATS AND IT'S EMPTY RHETORIC TO PERHAPS GET UP
HIS FAR RIGHT-WING BASE. THE REALITY IS THIS WHEN YOU DO
MAKE THREATS AGAINST CITIES, STATES, COUNTIES, IT'S VERY
UN-AMERICAN, THAT'S NOT WHO WE ARE AS A GREAT NATION.
IT TEARS UP THE FABRIC OF WHO WE ARE AS A CITY.
IT'S POLITICAL EMPTY RHETORIC. YOU SHOULD SEPARATE CHILDREN
FROM MOTHERS AND IT'S UN-AMERICAN, IT'S NOT WHO WE ARE
IN THE GREAT STATE. THESE EXECUTIVE ORDERS ACTUALLY
PUT AMERICANS IN A MUCH MORE DANGEROUS SITUATION BECAUSE IT
WILL ACTUALLY INCREASE CRIME BECAUSE POLICE OFFICERS WILL BE
REQUIRED, IF IN FACT, TO ABANDON THEIR DUTIES AND
RESPONSIBILITIES TO GO HELP I.C.E. AGENTS SET UP A PERIMETER
AROUND AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL WAITING FOR MOTHERS TO PICK UP
THEIR CHILDREN. THAT'S WHO WE ARE AS A GREAT
CITY OR AS A GREAT STATE OR COUNTRY.
>> THE LEADER OF THE CALIFORNIA STATE SENATE GETS TONIGHT'S LAST
WORD ON THIS, PROVIDENCE MAY
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