ANNOUNCER: THE FOLLOWING PROGRAM IS PAID FOR BY
THE FRIENDS AND PARTNERS OF JOYCE MEYER MINISTRIES.
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JOYCE: WELL, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING US TODAY.
TODAY WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT LIVING A BALANCED LIFE
IN CHRIST.
HOW MANY TIMES HAVE YOU DONE THINGS THAT YOU REALLY KNEW DOWN
DEEP INSIDE GOD WAS NOT TELLING YOU TO DO OR LEADING YOU TO DO?
THEY COULD BE WONDERFUL THINGS, GREAT IDEAS, THEY MIGHT EVEN
HELP OTHER PEOPLE, BUT BECAUSE YOU REALLY DIDN'T FEEL
THE LEADING OF GOD TO DO THEM, YOU BEGAN TO FEEL OVERWHELMED
AND OVERBURDENED AND EVEN GOT TO THE POINT WHERE YOU JUST GOT
BURNT OUT.
WELL, TODAY I'M JOINED BY RICK RENNER, SENIOR PASTOR
OF MOSCOW GOOD NEWS CHURCH AND THE DIRECTOR
OF OUR RUSSIAN OFFICE.
HE UNDERSTANDS THE IMPLICATIONS OF BURN OUT BECAUSE
HE'S BEEN THERE HIMSELF.
WELL, RICK, IT'S SO GOOD TO SEE YOU ALL THE WAY HERE FROM
THE FORMER SOVIET UNION.
RICK: IT'S ALWAYS GOOD TO SEE YOU, JOYCE.
JOYCE: OF COURSE OUR VIEWING AUDIENCE CAN'T SEE YOUR
BEAUTIFUL WIFE, BUT SHE'S HERE IN THE STUDIO.
WE LOVE YOU AND DENISE. YOU'RE GREAT.
RICK: THANK YOU.
JOYCE: WELL, I KNOW THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE TODAY WATCHING
ARE TIRED, THEY'RE WEARY, THEY'RE WORN OUT.
I CAN JUST SENSE THAT MANY OF THEM FEEL LIKE THEY'RE IN A TRAP
THAT THEY DON'T KNOW HOW TO GET OUT OF.
THEY FEEL LIKE THEY'RE DOING TOO MUCH, BUT THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT
THEY CAN NOT DO IN ORDER TO MAKE MORE ROOM.
AND I'VE HAD MY OWN EXPERIENCE WITH LIVING AN UNBALANCED LIFE
AND GETTING BURNT OUT AND GETTING PHYSICALLY ILL.
AND I KNOW YOU'VE HAD ONE TOO.
SO TELL US WHAT HAPPENED TO YOU.
RICK: WELL, 6 YEARS AGO I HAD A REAL REVELATIONAL MOMENT
IN MY LIFE.
DENISE AND I WERE MINISTERING IN TWO DIFFERENT COUNTRIES
EVERY WEEK.
WE PASTORED IN MOSCOW, AND WE PASTORED IN KIEV.
SO WE WERE FLYING BACK AND FORTH,
BACK AND FORTH, BACK AND FORTH.
AND HONESTLY, JOYCE, IT'S--WE DIDN'T EVEN KNOW WHERE WE WERE.
WE WERE LIKE TWO SHIPS PASSING IN THE NIGHT.
I WOULD WALK IN AND DENISE WOULD SAY, "WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN?"
AND I WOULD HAVE TO THINK.
LET ME THINK, WHERE DID I JUST COME FROM?
"RICK, DO YOU KNOW WHERE YOU'RE GOING?"
I CAN'T REMEMBER WHERE I'M GOING.
AND THERE WAS SUCH A DISCONNECT.
AND EMOTIONALLY, I BEGAN TO, WHAT I CALL, FLATLINE.
IT'S LIKE I DIDN'T HAVE ANY UPS.
I DIDN'T HAVE ANY DOWNS, WHICH IN ONE WAY THAT SOUNDS HEALTHY,
BUT WE'RE DESIGNED FOR SOME UPS AND DOWNS.
AND IT WAS LIKE I JUST FLATLINED.
AND DENISE KEPT SAYING TO ME, "RICK, YOU HAVE NO EMOTIONS."
JOYCE: JUST KIND OF LIKE A LITTLE MACHINE
JUST BUZZING ALONG.
RICK: YEAH, I JUST BECAME A MACHINE.
STAND HERE, SAY THAT.
AND IN FACT, EVEN IN OUR CHURCH IN MOSCOW WHICH--YOU KNOW
THE THING IS, JOYCE, IN THE MIDDLE OF ALL THIS,
EVERYTHING WAS BLESSED.
THE CHURCH WAS BLESSED.
TV WAS BLESSED.
EVERYTHING WAS BLESSED.
THE BOOKS WERE BLESSED, BUT I WASN'T BLESSED.
JOYCE: THAT'S A VERY GOOD POINT.
YOU KNOW, IT'S WONDERFUL IF EVERYTHING WE'RE DOING IS
BLESSED AND IF WE'RE BLESSING OTHER PEOPLE, BUT IF YOU'RE
MISERABLE--I JUST DECIDED A LONG TIME AGO, IF I COULD NOT ENJOY
BEING IN THE MINISTRY AND ENJOY THE WORK THAT I DO, THEN
SOMETHING WAS WRONG.
AND I'VE EVEN TALKED TO NUMEROUS PASTORS.
I REMEMBER ONE TIME DOING A MEETING AND I ASKED FOR ALL
THE PEOPLE THAT WERE IN MINISTRY THAT WERE NOT ENJOYING BEING
IN MINISTRY.
THEY FELT CALLED.
THEY WANTED TO DO IT.
THEY BELIEVED THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO DO IT, BUT THEY WEREN'T
ENJOYING IT TO COME UP FOR PRAYER.
AND I THOUGHT I'D HAVE A FEW PEOPLE.
I MEAN I WAS OVERWHELMED WITH THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE
THAT CAME UP.
SO I THINK THAT'S A VERY GOOD POINT.
EVERYBODY ELSE CAN BE ENJOYING WHAT YOU'RE DOING,
BUT ARE YOU ENJOYING IT?
RICK: I WAS TRAPPED.
I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT TO DO.
MY LIFE WAS NOT IN MY CONTROL.
EVERYONE ELSE WAS TELLING ME WHERE TO GO.
IN FACT, I MEAN THEY WERE LITERALLY SAYING,
"YOU NEED TO BE HERE. YOU NEED TO STAY HERE.
YOU NEED TO STAND HERE AND SAY THIS.
OKAY, NOW YOU NEED TO BE HERE.
YOU NEED TO STAND HERE.
YOU NEED TO SAY THIS."
IT WASN'T EVEN ANY THINKING INVOLVED.
IT WAS ALMOST LIKE I WAS THE MARIONETTE.
JOYCE: BUT I THINK IT PROBABLY IS GOOD TO SAY LIKE YOU
SAID YOUR LIFE WASN'T IN YOUR CONTROL, AND I KNOW THAT FEELING
'CAUSE I FELT LIKE I GOT TO THAT POINT TOO.
BUT WE HAVE TO BE RESPONSIBLE TO SAY THAT WE DID LET IT
GET THERE.
RICK: WE DID.
JOYCE: YOU SAID YES TO THOSE THINGS AT SOME POINT
AND STARTED DOING THEM.
AND THEN WE GIVE RESPONSIBILITIES TO OTHER PEOPLE
AND THEN IT JUST GETS TO THE POINT WHERE, YOU KNOW--
RICK: WELL, FOR ME THE BIG REVELATIONAL MOMENT CAME WHEN I
TOOK DENISE TO ATHENS FOR HER BIRTHDAY.
SO SHE AND I WERE SITTING AT THE TABLE TOGETHER, AND WE
WEREN'T EXACTLY HAVING THE GREATEST TIME.
YOU KNOW WHEN YOU DON'T SPEND ANY TIME TOGETHER AND YOU'RE
JUST LIVING TOGETHER, BUT NOT REALLY LIVING TOGETHER.
AND I SAID, "WELL, DENISE, TELL ME, WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE FOR YOUR
BIRTHDAY?" OH, I WAS SO SORRY I ASKED.
AND SHE SAID, "RICK RENNER."
AND WHEN SHE SAYS THAT, I KNOW SOMETHING'S COMING.
"IF WE'RE IN THE SAME COUNTRY ON THE SAME DAY, I WOULD LIKE TO
HAVE 15 MINUTES."
JOYCE: OH, MY GOSH.
RICK: AND WHEN SHE SAID THAT, IT REALLY HIT ME.
AND JOYCE, THAT NIGHT I TOOK HER TO DINNER.
AND NOW THIS WILL SHOW YOU HOW OUT OF CONTROL I WAS ON MY
SCHEDULE.
WE WERE CELEBRATING DENISE'S DINNER IN A BEAUTIFUL HOTEL
IN ATHENS.
SHE THINKS THAT IT'S JUST ME AND HER.
ALL OF A SUDDEN THE DOOR OPENS AND IN WALKS ALL OF OUR
TELEVISION CREW, AND THEY'RE TAKING PICTURES OF ME
AND DENISE.
AND THAT'S WHEN SHE FOUND OUT THAT THE NEXT DAY WHEN SHE WENT
BACK TO MOSCOW, I WAS STAYING IN CORINTH IN ORDER TO DO SOME
TELEVISION FILMING.
SHE LOOKED AT ME LIKE, "YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING ME.
I'M GONNA GO TO THAT AIRPORT BY MYSELF WHILE YOU'RE GONNA GO
DO FILMING."
AND THINGS WERE JUST OUT OF CONTROL.
JOYCE: AND, YOU KNOW, I'M SURE THAT THERE'S LOTS AND LOTS
OF PEOPLE WATCHING TODAY, MOMS AND DADS AND FACTORY WORKERS AND
OFFICE WORKERS AND, YOU KNOW, THEY DON'T--THEY'RE NOT IN
MINISTRY LIKE YOU AND I ARE IN MINISTRY, BUT THIS PROBLEM CAN
SEEP INTO ANYBODY'S MARRIAGE, INTO ANYBODY'S RELATIONSHIP WITH
THEIR CHILDREN.
AND I THINK ESPECIALLY SOMETIMES PEOPLE DON'T EVEN TAKE THE TIME
TO SPEND--THEY DON'T SPEND ANY TIME WITH GOD, AND THEY'RE
CERTAINLY NOT SPENDING ANY QUALITY TIME WITH THEMSELVES.
I SAY A LOT OF TIMES, I STAY OUT OF A LOT OF TROUBLE BECAUSE I
HAVE MEETINGS WITH MYSELF.
SOMETIMES YOU JUST NEED TO BOOK A MEETING WITH YOURSELF AND SAY,
"OKAY, I'M RUNNING LIKE A CRAZY PERSON.
WHY AM I DOING THIS?
WHAT'S THE FRUIT, YOU KNOW?
HAS GOD BEEN DONE WITH THIS A LONG TIME AGO?
AM I JUST DOING IT TO IMPRESS SOMEBODY?"
RICK: WELL, I CAME HOME FROM THAT TRIP AND I SAID, "DENISE,
LET'S GO INTO THE BEDROOM."
SO WE WENT INTO THE BEDROOM.
WE CLOSED THE DOOR.
WE GOT UP ON THE BED TO TALK.
AND I BEGAN TO ACKNOWLEDGE.
I MEAN IT WAS ONE OF THE HARDEST TALKS WE'VE EVER HAD.
ACKNOWLEDGE WHAT I'VE DONE WRONG.
ACKNOWLEDGE WHERE I'VE BEEN NOT THE MAN OF GOD I SHOULD
HAVE BEEN.
ACKNOWLEDGE THAT MY TIME WITH GOD IS NOT WHAT IT SHOULD HAVE
BEEN OR WE WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN IN THIS MESS.
AND JOYCE, ACKNOWLEDGING IS ONE THING BUT ACKNOWLEDGING IS
ONLY THE FIRST STEP.
I HAD TO REPENT.
AND FOR ME TO REPENT MEANT THAT I HAD TO DIG INTO THE DEEPEST
PART OF MY SOUL BECAUSE MY SOUL DID NOT KNOW HOW TO SAY NO.
I SAID YES TO EVERYTHING.
JOYCE: AND THEN WE HAVE TO ASK OURSELVES THE DEEP QUESTION
IS, "WHY AM I DOING ALL OF THESE THINGS?"
RICK: I DIDN'T WANT TO LET PEOPLE DOWN.
JOYCE: DIDN'T WANT TO LET PEOPLE DOWN.
AND, YOU KNOW, I'VE DISCOVERED AND I KNOW YOU KNOW THIS TOO
THAT GOD REALLY DOESN'T CARE TOO MUCH ABOUT WHAT WE DO,
IT'S WHY WE DO IT.
RICK: THAT'S RIGHT.
JOYCE: IF OUR MOTIVE FOR WHAT WE DO IS NOT RIGHT,
THEN IT'S USELESS AND WORTHLESS.
THERE'S NO REWARD FOR OUR WORKS IF OUR MOTIVE IS WRONG
IN DOING IT.
AND A LOT OF TIMES, RICK, AND I'M SURE YOU KNOW THIS TOO,
A LOT OF THE REASON WHY WE HAVE A HARD TIME SAYING NO IS WE'RE
INSECURE.
WE WANT EVERYBODY TO LIKE US, TO APPROVE OF US, TO THINK
WE'RE GREAT PEOPLE.
WE DON'T WANT ANYBODY ANGRY AT US.
YOU KNOW, WE DON'T WANT THEM TO DISAGREE WITH OUR DECISION.
AND I'VE HAD TO LEARN THAT ANYTIME THAT SOMEBODY WANTS TO
HEAR YES AND I TELL THEM NO, THEY'RE NOT GONNA LIKE IT.
BUT IF THEY LOVE ME, IF THEY LOVE ME, THEN THEY WILL GIVE ME
THE FREEDOM TO MAKE MY OWN CHOICE AND THEY'LL SAY,
"I TOTALLY RESPECT YOU FOR FOLLOWING THE PEACE IN YOUR
HEART," EVEN IF THEY DON'T GET WHAT THEY WANT.
RICK: WELL, I WAS UNDER SELF-IMPOSED PRESSURE BECAUSE
I FELT LIKE IF I DIDN'T DO WHAT EVERYBODY ASKED ME TO DO,
THEN I WAS GONNA FAIL SOMEONE OR DISAPPOINT SOMEONE.
AND JOYCE, HONESTLY, I MEAN WHEN WE BEGIN TO DO THIS REAL REVIEW
OF OUR LIVES--WELL, FIRST OF ALL, YOU KNOW, TO BRING
CORRECTION IT'S--I MEAN TO ACKNOWLEDGE WHAT YOU'VE DONE
WRONG, TO REPENT TO THE DEPTH OF YOUR BONES.
AND I MEAN THAT KIND OF REPENTANCE IS SO POWERFUL
BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT TO LOOK AT WHAT YOU'VE DONE WRONG
AND ACKNOWLEDGE IT.
AND THEN YOU'VE GOTTA BRING CORRECTION.
AND IN MY PARTICULAR CASE, BECAUSE OF MY CHARACTER, I KNEW
I NEEDED HELP IN BRINGING CORRECTION.
AND SO I CALLED THE MEN WHO REALLY ARE ON OUR BOARD OF
DIRECTORS, AND THEY FLEW TO MOSCOW AND SAT DOWN WITH ME
AND DENISE.
AND THEY SAID, "HERE'S WHAT YOU'RE GONNA DO.
YOU'RE NOT GONNA DO THIS.
YOU'RE NOT GONNA DO THIS.
YOU'RE NOT GONNA DO THIS.
YOU'RE NOT GONNA DO THIS.
YOU'RE GONNA SIT IN THIS HOUSE--" WE HAVE A BEAUTIFUL
HOUSE WHICH BECAME MY PRISON FOR 6 MONTHS.
"AND GOD IS GONNA DO A WORK IN YOUR HEART."
JOYCE: BECAUSE YOU WERE ACTUALLY--JUST TO MAKE SURE OUR
VIEWERS UNDERSTAND WHY THIS WAS SO VITALLY IMPORTANT.
YOU WERE EVEN HAVING PHYSICAL AND EMOTIONAL TRAUMA FROM THIS.
IT WAS VERY--IN A WAY, YOU HAD LIKE A MINI TYPE OF
A COMPLETE BREAKDOWN.
RICK: I WOULDN'T SAY MINI.
JOYCE: IT WAS BIG, HUGE.
RICK: I MEAN I WAS HOLDING ON TO MY BIBLE FOR MY DEAR LIFE,
AND WE BEGAN TO BUILD A STRUCTURE, A NEW STRUCTURE
FOR OUR LIVES.
JOYCE: THAT'S GOOD. THAT'S VERY GOOD.
RICK: BUT DURING THAT TIME I HAD TO REVIEW ALL THE THINGS
WE'VE DONE.
BUT I WOULD HAVE TO SAY A LOT OF WHAT WE DID, GOOD WORKS, BUT NOT
ORDAINED BY GOD, SOMEBODY ELSE SHOULD HAVE DONE THAT.
JOYCE: THAT'S SO GOOD.
WELL, YOU KNOW, WE ARE GONNA COME BACK IN JUST A MINUTE
AND TALK ABOUT THIS SOME MORE.
BUT I JUST WANT TO ENCOURAGE YOU TO REALLY TAKE A LOOK AT YOUR
LIFE, AT YOUR SCHEDULE, AT YOUR HEALTH, AT YOUR EMOTIONS, AT
YOUR RELATIONSHIPS, AND IF YOU HEAR YOURSELF COMPLAINING ABOUT
YOUR LIFE ALL THE TIME, YOU ARE REALLY THE ONLY ONE WHO CAN GET
SOME ORDER IN YOUR LIFE.
GOD WILL HELP YOU, BUT YOU NEED TO BE WILLING TO DO WHAT
PASTOR RICK IS TALKING ABOUT, TAKE THAT INVENTORY,
TAKE RESPONSIBILITY, BE WILLING TO MAKE THE CHANGES
THAT YOU NEED TO MAKE.
SO PLEASE DON'T GO AWAY.
WE'RE GONNA COME RIGHT BACK.
JOYCE: WELL, WE ARE VERY EXCITED TO WELCOME JOHN GRAY
TO THE 2017 LOVE LIFE WOMEN'S CONFERENCE.
JOHN?
JOHN: YES?
JOYCE: YOU WERE SUCH A HUGE HIT LAST YEAR, WE ABSOLUTELY
HAD TO HAVE YOU BACK AGAIN.
JOHN: I'M SO GRATEFUL.
ST. LOUIS WAS A GAME-CHANGER FOR ME.
BEING RAISED BY STRONG WOMEN OF FAITH, WOMEN OF GOD, AND BEING
IN THAT ATMOSPHERE, I HAD NEVER SEEN ANYTHING LIKE IT.
THOUSANDS UPON THOUSANDS OF WOMEN WORSHIPING GOD AND NOT
JUST THE SUPERNATURAL BUT THE PRACTICAL APPLICATION
OF THE WORD.
IT WAS AMAZING.
JOYCE: WELL, YOU'RE NOT ONLY A GREAT SPEAKER THAT BRINGS
FORTH GOOD CONTENT, BUT YOU ARE ALSO EXTREMELY FUNNY.
JOHN: YOU GOTTA LAUGH IF YOU'RE GONNA LOVE YOUR LIFE.
JOYCE: WE NEED THAT, DON'T WE?
JOHN: ABSOLUTELY.
IF YOU ARE A WOMAN THAT NEEDS JUST THAT SPARK, THIS IS
THE CONFERENCE FOR YOU.
JOYCE: WELL, JOHN, WE CAN'T WAIT UNTIL YOU'RE BACK
THIS YEAR.
AND YOU KNOW WHAT?
WE REALLY, REALLY WANT TO SEE YOU THERE.
IT'S NOT GONNA BE THE SAME IF YOU DON'T COME.
SO WHY DON'T YOU INVITE A FRIEND, CONTACT US,
AND REGISTER TODAY.
JOYCE: WELCOME BACK.
YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT LIVING A BALANCED LIFE IN
CHRIST AND CHOOSING CAREFULLY WHAT WE SPEND OUR TIME ON BASED
ON THE PRIORITIES THAT WE FEEL THAT GOD HAS GIVEN US
FOR OUR LIVES.
I EMPHASIZE GOD BECAUSE JUST BECAUSE SOMETHING'S A PRIORITY
TO ME, DOESN'T MEAN THAT IT SHOULD BE A PRIORITY ACCORDING
TO THE WORD OF GOD.
SO RICK RENNER, SENIOR PASTOR OF MOSCOW GOOD NEWS CHURCH
AND THE DIRECTOR OF OUR RUSSIAN OFFICE IS WITH US
TELLING US ABOUT HIS EXPERIENCE.
WELL, RICK, YOU TOLD US THAT BASICALLY YOU JUST FELL APART
FROM OVERWORK, FROM BEING OUT OF BALANCE, FROM NOT KNOWING HOW TO
SAY NO.
SO WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT WHAT YOU FEEL PEOPLE NEED TO DO
TO BEGIN TO GET BACK ON THE RIGHT TRACK.
SO I'VE GOT A LITTLE LIST OF SOME OF YOUR THINGS HERE.
AND FIRST OF ALL YOU TALK ABOUT PUTTING GOD'S WORD OR PUTTING
GOD FIRST.
RICK: JOYCE, HE WASN'T FIRST.
I WAS SO BUSY DOING THINGS THAT MY BIBLE WAS,
"I'LL GET IT TO LATER."
JOYCE: AND HOW RIDICULOUS IS IT TO BE IN FULL-TIME MINISTRY
AND PUT GOD ON THE BACK BURNER?
RICK: AND JOYCE, I'M AN AUTHOR LIKE YOU.
I MEAN I WRITE BOOKS.
PEOPLE ARE READING MY BOOKS.
JOYCE: TELLING OTHER PEOPLE HOW TO SPEND TIME WITH GOD.
RICK: AND SO THE FIRST THING I DID WAS I MADE THE
COMMITMENT--NOW THIS IS A PRETTY TOUGH COMMITMENT BUT I MADE IT
THAT IF I DO NOT READ MY BIBLE FIRST, THEN I WILL NOT EAT
THAT DAY.
WELL, YOU CAN TELL BY LOOKING AT ME, I'VE BEEN READING MY BIBLE.
BUT, YOU KNOW, DEUTERONOMY 8:4 SAYS, "MAN DOESN'T LIVE BY BREAD
ALONE BUT BY EVERY WORD THAT PROCEEDS OUT OF THE MOUTH
OF GOD."
JOYCE: YOU KNOW, THAT MIGHT DRIVE A LOT OF PEOPLE
TO READ THEIR BIBLE.
RICK: BUT, JOYCE, THINK ABOUT IT, IF MOST PEOPLE ATE FOOD
THE WAY THEY READ THEIR BIBLE, THEY WOULD BE IN INTENSIVE CARE.
JOYCE: THAT'S RIGHT.
WHEN I SAT DOWN THIS MORNING TO SPEND MY TIME WITH GOD--AND I'M
SO GRATEFUL THAT I'M ADDICTED TO IT NOW.
I JUST CAN'T--I DON'T KNOW, FOR ME TO NOT SPEND MY MORNING TIME
WITH GOD WOULD BE EQUIVALENT TO GOING OUT WITHOUT
ANY CLOTHES ON.
I JUST WOULDN'T FEEL RIGHT.
AND I JUST AS I WAS CHATTING WITH THE LORD I SAID, "WELL,
I'M GONNA SIT DOWN HERE AND HAVE SOME SPIRITUAL FOOD.
BUT, YOU KNOW, FEED ME.
TEACH ME SOMETHING.
I WANT TO LEARN."
SO IT IS, IT'S REALLY FOOD FOR YOUR SPIRIT.
RICK: I GET UP, GET MY CUP OF COFFEE.
I GET MY BIBLE.
I WALK TO MY CHAIR, WHICH IS WHERE I MEET WITH GOD.
AND IN PSALM 5, VERSE 2 IT SAYS, "IN THE MORNING, LORD,
I WILL LIFT MY VOICE AND I WILL LOOK UP."
WELL, WHEN MY EMOTIONS WERE SO AFFECTED AT THAT MOMENT,
I WAS LOOKING DOWN.
EVEN THOUGH EVERYTHING AROUND US WAS BLESSED, I WAS NOT BLESSED.
MY SOUL-- JOYCE: WERE YOU HAVING
PROBLEMS WITH DEPRESSION?
RICK: OH, HORRIBLE, HORRIBLE.
AND DENISE WOULD SAY, "HONEY, THIS IS GOOD IN OUR LIFE.
THIS IS GOOD IN OUR LIFE."
BUT IT DIDN'T MATTER WHAT SHE SAID BECAUSE--AND I HONESTLY
BELIEVED MY BRAIN CHEMISTRY HAD BEEN AFFECTED.
JOYCE: OH, I DO TOO.
RICK: I JUST DEPLETED MYSELF.
JOYCE: IN 1 PETER 5:8, AND GOD PUT THIS SCRIPTURE IN FRONT
OF ME 35 YEARS AGO WHEN I FIRST STARTED STUDYING
THE WORD IN THE AMPLIFIED BIBLE.
IT SAYS, "BE WELL BALANCED FOR YOUR ADVERSARY, THE DEVIL,
ROAMS ABOUT LIKE A LION ROARING [IN FIERCE HUNGER],
SEEKING SOMEONE THAT HE MAY SEIZE UPON AND DEVOUR.
WHOM RESIST STEADFAST IN THE FAITH."
WELL, THE GREATEST OPEN DOOR IN OUR LIVES MANY TIMES IS JUST
SIMPLY BEING OUT OF BALANCE.
AND IT'S HARD TO GET PEOPLE TO REALIZE THAT BECAUSE THEY THINK,
"WELL, IT'S THIS BIG THING AND IT'S THIS BIG THING
AND IT'S THAT BIG THING."
BUT GOD IS NEVER GOING TO GIVE US MORE TO DO THAN WHAT WE CAN
DO WITH PEACE AND JOY.
RICK: AND THERE'S ALWAYS A BIG THING TO DO WITH.
I MEAN IF WE'RE CONTROLLED BY THAT, IT'S EVERY DAY
THERE'S SOMETHING ELSE.
AND SO I JUST HAD TO DRAW A LINE WHERE I SAID, "NO, I'M STARTING
EVERY DAY WITH GOD."
AND I BEGAN TO SIT DOWN WITH MY BIBLE.
AND JOYCE, BEFORE GOD I'M TELLING YOU, I BEGAN TO FEEL IN
MY BRAIN ALMOST LIKE--THE ONLY WAY I KNOW HOW TO EXPLAIN IT,
IT FELT LIKE MOLECULES MOVING IN MY HEAD.
I WAS BENDING MY BRAIN SO HARD TO THE WORD OF GOD BECAUSE I
KNEW, RICK, YOU'VE GOT TO GET THE WORD INTO YOUR MIND IF
YOU'RE GONNA RECOVER FROM WHAT YOU'VE BEEN THROUGH.
JOYCE: IT'S OUR ONLY HELP AND OUR ONLY HOPE, REALLY.
RICK: IT IS.
JOYCE: I'VE BEEN READING PSALM 119 FOR THE LAST FEW DAYS,
TAKES A FEW DAYS 'CAUSE IT'S 170 VERSES.
AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER THE PSALMIST DAVID TALKED
ABOUT YOUR WORD, YOUR WORD, YOUR WORD, YOUR WORD, YOUR WORD.
"IT'S A LIGHT TO MY PATH AND A LAMP TO MY FEET.
I WILL MEDITATE ON YOUR WORD.
I WILL STUDY YOUR WORD.
I WILL EAT YOUR WORD," YOU KNOW, OVER AND OVER AND OVER.
AND PEOPLE REALLY NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT THE BIBLE,
IT'S REALLY MORE THAN--SOMETIMES WE THINK, "WELL, IT'S JUST
THE BIBLE," YOU KNOW?
BUT IT'S OUR LIFE.
RICK: AND IT'S HEALING.
JOYCE: IT'S HEALING TO US. THE WORD HEALS YOUR SOUL.
IT HEALS YOUR MIND.
IT RENEWS YOUR MIND.
AND SO WHATEVER THE CASE, PEOPLE NEED TO PUT GOD FIRST.
I KNOW WE GOT A LOT ON THE LIST HERE SO WE'RE GONNA MOVE ON.
THE POWER TO SAY NO, TELL US ABOUT THAT.
RICK: WELL, IT'S LIBERATING JUST TO LOOK AT SOMEBODY
AND SAY, "NO, NO.
THANK YOU THAT WAS A NICE INVITATION.
I DON'T FEEL LED TO DO THAT."
JOYCE: AND WHAT DO YOU HAVE TO BE WILLING TO FACE WHEN YOU
DO THAT?
RICK: I HAD IT LAST WEEK.
I HAD A MAN SAY, "YOU WILL COME TO AFRICA BEFORE THE END
OF THIS YEAR."
AND I SAID, "NO, I WILL NOT.
I'VE ALREADY TOLD YOU NO, AND I'M NOT GONNA STAND HERE
AND LIE TO YOU.
I AM NOT COMING TO AFRICA THIS YEAR."
HE WAS LIKE STUNNED.
BUT, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE TO DRAW THE BORDER AND YOU DON'T WANT
TO BE UNKIND.
BUT YOU KNOW WHAT?
IF YOU GIVE ALL OF YOU AND THERE'S NOTHING LEFT OF YOU,
YOU DIDN'T HELP PEOPLE.
YOU'VE JUST CRIPPLED YOURSELF.
JOYCE: AND WHAT ABOUT HAVING PEOPLE THAT YOU--IN YOUR LIFE
THAT YOU RESPECT ENOUGH TO HOLD YOU ACCOUNTABLE?
THERE'S NOT MUCH OF THAT TODAY.
RICK: WELL, JOYCE, WE HAVE IT.
AND IN FACT WHEN THIS HAPPENED IN OUR LIFE, I SAID TO DENISE I
SAID, "WELL, THE MOMENT HAS COME FOR ME TO PROVE WHAT I BELIEVE.
ALL MY LIFE I'VE TAUGHT SUBMISSION TO AUTHORITY,
NOW THE MOMENT'S COME."
AND THOSE MEN STEPPED INTO OUR LIVES, THEY TOLD US WHAT WE
COULD DO, WHAT WE COULD NOT DO.
AND JOYCE-- JOYCE: FOR YOUR GOOD.
THEY WEREN'T JUST TRYING TO RUN YOUR LIFE.
THEY DID IT OUT OF LOVE FOR YOU 'CAUSE REALLY YOU WERE AT
THE POINT WHERE YOU COULDN'T MAKE GOOD DECISIONS.
RICK: AND THEY HELPED US.
AND, YOU KNOW, I WAS NOT AT A PLACE WHERE I WAS GONNA MAKE
RIGHT DECISIONS.
I WASN'T THINKING RIGHT BECAUSE WHEN YOU'RE IN THAT POSITION,
YOU HAVE FEAR.
FOR INSTANCE, YOU CANCEL ALL YOUR MEETINGS FOR 6 MONTHS,
YOU DISAPPEAR FOR 6 MONTHS, THERE'S A LOT OF FEAR.
"WELL, WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN IF I DISAPPEAR OFF THE FACE OF
THE EARTH?" THESE MEN SAID TO ME, "RICK,
IT'S WHAT YOU NEED TO DO."
YOU KNOW WHAT?
THEIR GUIDANCE WAS LIKE AN ANCHOR FOR ME, AND THIS
WASN'T JUST ADVICE THAT THEY SPOKE INTO MY LIFE
5 OR 6 YEARS AGO.
THESE MEN ARE STILL SPEAKING INTO MY LIFE.
I THANK GOD FOR THESE MEN.
JOYCE: THAT'S GOOD.
WELL THE NEXT THING YOU HAVE IS REEVALUATE EVERYTHING THAT
YOU'RE INVOLVED IN IN EVERY AREA OF YOUR LIFE.
RICK: WELL, I LEARNED THAT 85% OF WHAT WE DO--MAYBE YOU'VE
HEARD THIS BEFORE, SOMEBODY ELSE CAN DO.
TEN PERCENT OF WHAT WE DO, SOMEONE ELSE CAN BE TRAINED
TO DO.
AND THE REMAINDER IS WHAT WE DO.
WELL, THINK ABOUT THAT, JOYCE.
YOU'VE GOT ALL THESE PEOPLE WORKING AROUND
JOYCE MEYER MINISTRIES.
MOST OF IT YOU DON'T NEED TO DO.
PART OF IT YOU CAN TRAIN SOMEBODY ELSE TO DO.
BUT THE PART THAT YOU DO, NOBODY ELSE CAN DO THAT PART.
THE PART THAT I DO, NOBODY ELSE CAN DO THAT PART.
AND SO RATHER THAN GIVE MYSELF TO WHAT OTHER PEOPLE CAN BE
DOING, I'M REGULARLY REVIEWING TO MAKE SURE I'M DOING THAT PART
THAT ONLY I CAN DO AND THAT ALSO LIBERATES EVERYBODY ELSE.
JOYCE: THAT'S RIGHT, THAT'S RIGHT BECAUSE THEY--GOD GIVES
YOU PEOPLE WITH GIFTS AND TALENTS AND IF YOU DON'T USE
THEM, THEN YOU STIFLE THEM AND THEY GET UNHAPPY
AND WANT TO GO SOMEWHERE ELSE.
I MEAN YOU CAN ACTUALLY SEE THAT IN PEOPLE'S LIVES, BUT IT'S ALSO
VERY BIBLICAL.
GOD TOLD MOSES, "WHY ARE YOU SITTING--WHY ARE YOU DOING
ALL THIS BY YOURSELF?
IF YOU DON'T USE THESE PEOPLE, YOU'RE GONNA BE UNHAPPY
AND THEY ARE TOO."
RICK: WELL, IN OUR CASE WHEN I STEPPED BACK,
EVERYONE ELSE STEPPED FORWARD.
AND GUESS WHAT.
WE'VE NEVER HAD TO RETURN TO WHERE WE WERE BECAUSE THEY ALL
STEPPED FORWARD.
IT'S WE'RE STRONGER NOW AND DENISE AND I ARE, WE'RE
THE GUIDES OF THE MINISTRY.
WE'RE WHAT WE SHOULD BE RATHER THAN DOING ALL THIS OTHER STUFF
THAT WE SHOULD HAVE NEVER BEEN DOING.
JOYCE: THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT.
WELL, WE'RE SO GRATEFUL THAT YOU CAME ON THE PROGRAM TODAY
AND SHARED SO OPENLY.
RICK: THANK YOU, JOYCE.
JOYCE: YOU LOOK A LOT BETTER THAN THE LAST TIME I SAW YOU.
YOU LOOK HEALTHIER.
YOU LOOK MORE RESTED, AND SO I'M GRATEFUL FOR
THE CHANGES THAT YOU'VE MADE.
RICK: THANK YOU.
JOYCE: MY "OVERLOAD" BOOK, SUCH A GOOD BOOK, IT'S GOING TO
REALLY HELP YOU ENTER THE REST OF GOD.
AND BOY, IF YOU KNOW PEOPLE THAT ARE STRESSED OUT AND OVERLOADED,
THIS WOULD BE A GREAT GIFT FOR YOU TO GET THEM.
AND THIS IS BEING OFFERED TO YOU TODAY FOR ANY AMOUNT.
WHAT A GREAT WAY TO GET AN AWESOME BOOK.
YOU KNOW, WE CAN LEARN THAT STRESS IS SOMETHING WE DON'T
HAVE TO BE OVERLOADED WITH.
YOU CAN LIVE IN PEACE.
AND SO, JUST AS WE CLOSE TODAY, WE'RE GOING TO ASK
PASTOR RICK FOR JUST A PRAYER FOR YOU THAT YOU WILL GET
YOUR LIFE IN BALANCE.
RICK, JUST PRAY FOR THE PEOPLE REAL QUICK.
RICK: FATHER, WE PRAY TODAY FOR PEOPLE THAT THE PEACE OF GOD
WOULD GUARD THEIR HEARTS AND MINDS.
LORD, THAT YOU WOULD GIVE THEM THE SENSE TO KNOW WHAT THEY
SHOULD SAY YES TO AND NO TO, TO KEEP THEM FROM THE FRET
AND THE ANXIETY OF LIFE.
WE THANK YOU FOR THAT, FATHER.
IN THE NAME OF JESUS.
JOYCE: AMEN.
WELL, YOU HAVE A WONDERFUL REST OF THE DAY AND MAKE SURE THAT IT
IS WELL BALANCED IN JESUS' NAME.
MALE: SO, THERE ARE TWO KINDS OF STRESSED OUT PEOPLE IN
THE WORLD.
ONE KIND THINKS THAT IF THEY WISH REALLY HARD, EVERYTHING
WILL JUST MAGICALLY DISAPPEAR.
THE OTHER KIND ACTUALLY DOES SOMETHING ABOUT IT.
TODAY, YOU CAN BE SOMEONE WHO DOES SOMETHING.
GET JOYCE'S NEW BOOK, "OVERLOAD" FOR A DONATION OF ANY AMOUNT.
CALL RIGHT NOW...
OR GO TO JOYCEMEYER.ORG.
LET'S FACE IT, LIFE'S NOT GOING TO CHANGE, BUT WITH GOD'S HELP
YOU CAN CHANGE HOW YOU APPROACH LIFE.
PICK UP YOUR COPY TODAY.
♪ ALL GLORY TO YOU ♪ ♪ EVERY KNEE WILL ONE DAY ♪
♪ BOW IN UNITY ♪ ♪ EVERY EYE ♪
♪ WILL ONE DAY COME ♪♪ AARON: SO FROM THE VERY
GET GO, I LOOK BACK ON MY LIFE, AND I, YOU KNOW, STARTED OFF
WITH NO CHANCE.
WHEN YOU'RE FIVE AND BEING ABLE TO FEEL THAT YOU ARE BROKEN AND
YOU'RE ABANDONED AND YOU'RE LONELY AND YOU'RE TRYING TO
FIGURE OUT LIFE ALMOST BY YOURSELF.
AND YOUR OLDER BROTHER IS MORE OF A FATHER FIGURE TO YOU THAN
YOUR DAD IS, YOU KNOW, THAT'S SOME CHALLENGE IN ITSELF.
ANNOUNCER: AARON GREW UP IN AN ANGRY HOUSEHOLD.
WITH CONSTANT FIGHTING AND STRIFE.
AT THE AGE OF FIVE, HIS PARENTS DIVORCED AND HIS MOTHER LATER
REMARRIED A MAN SIMILAR TO HIS FATHER.
A MAN WHO STRUGGLED WITH ALCOHOL AND ANGER.
AARON: YOU KNOW, I WAS TRYING TO FIND AN ESCAPE.
AND SO I FOUND AN ESCAPE THROUGH MARIJUANA.
I FOUND AN ESCAPE THROUGH ALCOHOL.
JUST FOUND MYSELF MORE AND MORE MORE DOWNWARD SPIRAL, INTO
NEGATIVITY, INTO HATRED, BECAUSE THAT'S--THERE WAS JUST SOMETHING
INSIDE OF ME THAT WAS JUST BROKEN.
ANNOUNCER: AARON WAS LOST.
BUT GOD HAS HIS HAND ON HIM AND TOUCHED HIS LIFE IN A POWERFUL
WAY DURING A SPRING BREAK TRIP TO MEXICO.
AARON: THE FIRST 3 DAYS OF THAT TRIP I WAS COMPLETELY,
JUST OFF MY FACE, YOU KNOW, IN OTHER WORDS, DRUNK.
AND FROM 10 AM IN THE MORNING TILL HOWEVER, YOU KNOW,
TIME AT NIGHT.
AND I REMEMBER WAKING UP WITH THIS DISCONTENTMENT INSIDE
MY SPIRIT.
I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT IT WAS.
AND I WENT DOWN TO THE POOL AND ALL OF MY FRIENDS STARTED
ORDERING DRINKS AND I WENT TO ORDER A DRINK BUT THEN ALL OF A
SUDDEN SOMETHING WAS NOT RIGHT.
AND I STARTED GOING FOR A WALK AND IT WAS THERE, RIGHT THERE ON
THE BEACH AT MAZATLAN THAT I WAS FILLED WITH THE SPIRIT OF GOD.
AND ALL OF A SUDDEN I STARTED PRAYING, LIKE I'VE NEVER PRAYED
BEFORE BECAUSE SOMETHING HAD SWITCHED.
GOD CARED SO MUCH ABOUT ME THAT, YOU KNOW, I WAS THAT ONE SHEEP
THAT HE WAS CHASING AFTER.
I WAS THAT ONE THAT HE LEFT THE 99 FOR.
YOU CAN FIND SALVATION.
YOU CAN FIND JESUS CHRIST AND ACCEPT HIM AND BELIEVE IN HIM,
BUT THE REALITY IS YOU CAN STILL LIVE A VERY MISERABLE LIFE.
AND, YOU KNOW, SO MY MOM GOES, "AARON, YOU NEED TO READ
THIS BOOK."
AND SHE HANDS ME JOYCE MEYER'S BOOK, "BATTLEFIELD OF THE MIND."
AND I OPENED UP THE BOOK AND I STARTED READING AND I'M TELLING
YOU, IT WAS LIKE THE WORLD JUST WENT SILENT.
AND IT WAS JUST ME, GOD AND WHAT JOYCE HAD HEARD FROM GOD, PUT IN
THESE BOOKS, PUT IN THIS BOOK AND EVERY PAGE JUST CAME ALIVE.
AND SOMETHING STARTED SHIFTING AND AT FIRST I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT
WAS GOING ON BUT ALL OF A SUDDEN THE REALIZATION OF THE WAY
I USED TO FEEL, AND THE FURY AND HATRED THAT I HAD TOWARDS
PAST AND PARENTS AND EVEN TOWARDS GOD
STARTED JUST MELTING AND JUST DIFFUSING ITSELF.
AND ALL OF A SUDDEN, I FOUND MYSELF CONNECTED TO MY DESTINY.
I FOUND MYSELF CONNECTED TO MY FUTURE.
AND SO, I FOUND MY SELF WORTH AND I REMIND MYSELF OF THAT
EVERY DAY.
IT'S ONE OF MY STARTING PRAYERS OF THE DAY, JUST THANK YOU GOD.
THANK YOU THAT I'M A SON OF GOD.
THAT YOU ADOPTED ME.
THAT YOU WOULD DO WHAT YOU DID, TAKE THAT HORRIFIC PATH TO
CALVARY AND ENDURE WHAT YOU HAD TO ENDURE WITH ME ON YOUR MIND
AND WITH THE INTENTION OF SEEING LIVES SET FREE, CHANGED,
DELIVERED.
GINGER: WE ALL GO THROUGH TIMES WHEN THE QUESTIONS
IN OUR LIFE SEEM TO OUTWEIGH THE ANSWERS.
JOYCE MEYER WANTS TO HELP WITH THAT.
CHECK OUT HER NEW SHOW, "EVERYDAY ANSWERS."
SEND US YOUR QUESTIONS AND JOIN US AS WE DISCOVER LIFE'S
EVERYDAY ANSWERS TOGETHER.
FEMALE: EVERYONE LOVES THE FEELING OF A FRESH MAKEOVER.
WELL, THIS SUMMER, LET'S FOCUS ON WHAT REALLY MATTERS.
IT'S TIME FOR JOYCE'S SUMMER MAKEOVER, A 12-WEEK CHALLENGE
THAT WILL CHANGE YOU FROM THE INSIDE OUT.
GO TO JOYCEMEYER.ORG TO START YOUR TRANSFORMATION WITH
INSPIRING MESSAGES, SCRIPTURES, AND MORE, TO KEEP YOU
MOVING FORWARD.
THEN CONTINUE YOUR MAKEOVER WITH JOYCE ON
"ENJOYING EVERYDAY LIFE" IN AUGUST FOR A SPECIAL MONTH
OF SHOWS TO HELP SHAPE THE NEW YOU.
LET GOD'S WORD GIVE YOU THE ULTIMATE SUMMER MAKEOVER.
SIGN UP TODAY AT JOYCEMEYER.ORG.
ANNOUNCER: YOU MEAN MORE TO US AT JOYCE MEYER MINISTRIES
THAN YOU MAY EVER KNOW.
WE APPRECIATE YOU AND WE THANK OUR FRIENDS AND PARTNERS FOR
MAKING THIS WORLDWIDE MINISTRY POSSIBLE.
TOGETHER WE'RE FEEDING THE HUNGRY, CLOTHING THE POOR,
AND PRESENTING THE GOSPEL TO THE NATIONS.
PLEASE CONTACT US OR VISIT JOYCEMEYER.ORG TODAY TO SHARE
YOUR PRAYER REQUESTS, FIND OUT MORE ABOUT OUR RESOURCES,
SEE JOYCE'S CONFERENCE SCHEDULE AND TO JOIN US IN PARTNERSHIP
AS WE SHARE THE LOVE OF CHRIST AROUND THE GLOBE.
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ANNOUNCER: THE PRECEDING WAS PAID FOR BY
THE FRIENDS AND PARTNERS OF JOYCE MEYER MINISTRIES.
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