Chủ Nhật, 18 tháng 6, 2017

Waching daily Jun 18 2017

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Fallout 4 Settlement Building. No mods needed.

Tour continues at 14.40 min ;D

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Essence of Murli 19-06-2017 - Duration: 6:03.

Om Shanti !

Today's Murli Date Is 19th June 2017

Essence: Sweet children, remain constantly busy in Godly service,

and your love for the Father will increase and the mercury of your happiness will always remain high.

Question: What is the happiness in the hearts of the children who have experienced going beyond by receiving Baba's drishti?

Answer: They experience the happiness of the kingdom of heaven in their hearts

because, as soon as a soul receives a glance from the Father, he claims a right to the inheritance.

The Father has everything merged in Him.

Question: Why does the Father give different points to the children in a variety of ways every day?

Answer:To fulfil the desire of many births of the children.

Children listen to the new points from the Father, and so their love for the Father increases.

Song: You spent the night in sleeping and the day in eating.

Essence for dharna: 1. Never become confused about anything or allow your faith to fluctuate.

While looking after your home etc. remain a karma yogi.

In order to be threaded close in the rosary of victory, you must definitely become pure.

2 Churn the ocean of knowledge in order to become clever. Remain constantly engaged in God's service.

Do the service of making others the same as yourself.

Blessing: May you serve as an instrument with the awareness of belonging to the one Father and none other and become free from all attachments.

The children who keep the awareness of belonging to the one Father and none other are easily able to make their minds and intellects concentrate.

They do service as instruments and this is why they do not have any attachment.

The sign of attachment is that their intellect would be pulled and their minds would run to where there is attachment.

This is why you have to surrender all your responsibilities to the Father

and look after everything as a trustee and an instrument and you will then become free from attachment.

Slogan: Obstacles make souls strong and this is why you must not be afraid of obstacles.

To the sweetest, beloved, long-lost and now-found children, love, remembrance and good morning from the Mother, the Father, BapDada.

The spiritual Father says namaste to the spiritual children.

We spiritual children convey to spiritual Baapdada, our love our remembrance, our good morning & our namaste namaste

Om Shanti !

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A day with Rapalje at Irish Folk Open Air in Poyenberg DE - Rapalje Show 14 - Duration: 7:28.

Hello, and welcome to the Rapalje show

In this episode. You can spend a day with us

at a big festival in Germany

We will travel from Groningen in The Netherlands

with Jeroen as our driver

To Germany to Poyenberg

This is a small place in the north of Germany

and we arrived at the Irish folk Open Air festival

in Poyenberg. And this nice guy

Will show us where to go

and where to unpack our things and to park the Rapalje bus

And we are nicely welcomed from our friends from Saltatio Mortis, our colleagues.

They are just doing a sound check

Good morning! Hey, there, how are you, Hello, all good?

We mostly arrive very early at a festival

so we have time to do the most important things

We need Wi-Fi or another good internet connection

So we can maybe do a livestream

and the first thing I need

is coffee!

Then we check out the stage and see if everything is okay

And we look at the place where are going to perform at night

And we need to know when with your sound check and which other bands are performing as well

Let's take a look at the musical menu

The first guy that's performing on this festival and also the last guy in the end

is MacPiet

and he's performing very near to the audience at the bar at the festival

Then we have Pigeons on the Gate

Very nice people, we had a very good time with them at this festival

Then on is The Kilkennys

We know The Kilkennys very well from our own festival: The Zomerfolk festival in Groningen

Where they performed last year

Very nice guys and there are from Ireland

Sharon Shannon is my most favorite accordion or melodeon player

I know in the whole world

but wait a minute that not Sharon Shannon

That's the guy who keeps Sharon Shanon's seat warm

Oh there she is, she plays so nice

And then we have Saltatio Mortis

the nice guys who gave us a warm welcome at this festival

Let's check out their sound check.

They will play at night with a big pyro show and we meet them a lot at other festivals

Then there's our sound-check

and I hand over my camera to Jeroen

So you can film me

And this is the song we always play: You Couldn't Have Come at a Better Time

You couldn't have come at a better time

And then the last performance on this big stage are: The Wakes

One two two two

And they will perform after us in the night

And then again a performance from MacPiet at the bar

A view weeks before this festival, I asked Saltatio Mortis for a T-shirt

For Rapalje Show

So Elsi had to take off his T-shirt

Which I'm wearing right now. It's still not washed, so I'm still smelling

Elsi

So we gave him a Rapalje T-shirt, and now he's wearing it at the soundcheck from Saltatio Mortis

Nice guys, but now I'm more interested in Svenja

So let's follow her to her merchandise stand where she sells our CDs like you see

Or the solo CD from William

and here are our T-shirts

At this festival the food is incredible and we are really curious

What's on the menu

Because we're in Germany of course we got schnitzel

We got patatos. We got chips, vegetables

Vegetarian food, salads

Cheese and Bread

And here we got desserts and

Nice small bits to eat

Now it's time to meet some people at the festival and to say hello

This is the organizer of this festival in Poyenberg. His name is Stefan

He's just interviewed by the press

Steven Spielberg

It's time to chat with our musical friends, band colleague, technicians

This is the recording from what Saltatio Mortis calls

the "Touring diary" and you can check this episode in the link in this card

And it's the way they shoot their videos for their Youtube channel

Now everything is prepared and we wait for the guests to come in

because the gates opened

But this will change soon as the bands starts play

And this is a performance from The Kilkennys in the afternoon

Okay, let's go to the toilet quickly and then

prepare the stage for our concert

This is Jeroen, he's connecting everything

On the stage

This is our set-up. It's very easy. We just need electricity connected

We have only one cable

Get the gear in place. This is the Tea-Chest-Bass and some drums.

This is a snare-drum I'm going to use later in the show and a bodhrán

This is the spare batteries we use when we have a problem with our rechargeable batteries

This is how we connect to the Tea-Chest-Bass. It's the only cable we need on stage.

This is our monitor system

I will put my melodeon and my Tea-Chest-Bass on the place where I like to perform

And because we're making recordings of the show

I will put a special microphone over here

To hear the audience

Hello there!

Who are already waiting for our concert to begin

So we have to hurry guys!

But David is still preparing his bagpipes for a fire show

Dieb is tuning his fiddle

Now we're ready and David says go

So be easy and free

and enjoy the show

if you like these kind of videos

and you'd like to see more

please tell us what you'd like to see

in the comments..

you you

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Is Trump's New Apprenticeship Program A Scam? - Duration: 3:57.

[VIDEO BUFFERING]

FILM THAT THE PEOPLE SUMMIT LAST WEEK. ñ

AS WITH MANY OTHER TOPICS IT WILL BE DONE WITHOUT ANY

OVERSIGHT WHATSOEVER.

THOSE ARE BEING MOVED OVER TO

THIRD-PARTY

PRIVATE ENTITIES.

MAKE SURE YOU.

YOUR TEASING CROSS YOUR EYES.

THIS IS STILL A LARGER USE OF GOVERNMENT FUNDS THAN

PREVIOUSLY.

THAT IS A GOOD SIGN THEORETICALLY.

THEY WILL

ACTUALLY BE DOING MORE MONEY.

90 TO 200.

SO YOU HEAR THAT AND YOU

THINK OKAY, THERE IS SOME

FUNDING GOING TO THESE APPRENTICESHIPS.

YOU ARE TAKING

MONEY THAT WAS GOING TO A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT JOB

TRAINING PROGRAMS WHICH WAS

MANAGED AND HAD OVERSIGHT BY THE GOVERNMENT.

AND INSTEAD YOUR

GIVING THESE PRIVATE BUSINESSES CARTE BLANCHE TO DO THEIR OWN

PROGRAMS.

NOT ONLY ARE YOU FUNDING THAT, BUT THIS ISN'T NEW

MONEY.

THE MONEY IS COMING FROM EXISTING JOB TRAINING PROGRAMS.

IF THIS IS A DISASTER, IT IS A DISASTER FOR THE PROGRAMS THAT

WE HAVE ALREADY BEEN RELYING ON.

THIS LOOKS LIKE AN AMAZING WAY

TO THROW A COUPLE OF HUNDRED MILLIONS OF DOLLARS I

BUSINESSES.

AND THEY SET UP THE CRITERIA ON WHETHER THE PROGRAMS

ARE A SUCCESS OR NOT.

IT IS STILL A PRETTY GOOD PAYDAY FOR

THESE BUSINESSES.

WHAT REMAINS IS LARGELY BEING TAKEN OVER BY

THESE PRIVATE BUSINESS APPRENTICESHIP PROGRAMS.

THIS IS

A TIME WHEN HE LEFT TO TALK ABOUT A COAL INDUSTRY.

THEY

OPENED UP A COAL MINE YESTERDAY,

AND THAT IS GREAT.

ALL 70 JOBS IT WILL PROVIDE OUR GREAT.

BUT

THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE WERE A LOT OF PEOPLE'S JOBS WERE LOST

IN THE INDUSTRY, THEY NEED JOB TRAINING.

THIS DEFINES THE SOLUTION.

IF THEY WERE PRIVATE BUSINESS THAT WERE PREPARED TO DO JOB

TRAINING THEY WOULD PROBABLY BE MORE INTERESTED IN IT.

MAYBE IT WILL WORK OUT, BUT IT SOUNDS A GREAT WAY TO

TRANSFER PRIVATE MONEY TO PRIVATE BUSINESSES.

TRUMP WILL BE PRETTY DISAPPOINTED WHEN HE LEARNS THIS

EXECUTIVE

ORDER HE SIGNED DID NOT CALL FOR EPISODES OF THE APPRENTICE TO BE

FILMED ON A SHIP.

TRUE.

THAT IS THE KIND OF THING HE WOULD GET BEHIND.

MAYBE DO THE FIRINGS ON THE BEACH OR SOMETHING?

YOU WILL

HEAR A LOT ABOUT THIS.

BUT RIGHT NOW IT LOOKS LIKE A DISASTER.

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J. Krishnamurti - Saanen 1961 - Public Talk 6 - Time does not wipe away sorrow - Duration: 1:05:52.

This is J. Krishnamurti's sixth public talk in Saanen, 1961.

We have been talking a great deal about facing the fact, observing without condemnation or

justification, to approach a fact without an opinion.

Especially where psychological facts are concerned we are apt to bring our prejudices, our desires,

our urges, which distort what is and thereby develop a certain guilt, a sense of contradiction,

a denial.

And we have been talking [about] that, about the importance of complete destruction of

all the things that we have built up as a refuge, as a defence.

Because life is much too vast and too fast, and our sluggish minds, our slow way of thinking,

our accustomed habits invariably create a contradiction within, and we dictate terms

to life; and so gradually this contradiction and conflict increases, and our minds become

more and more dull.

And I would like this morning, if I may, to talk about

the simple austerity of the mind, and suffering.

It is very difficult to be simple, to think directly, to see things clearly, to pursue

what we see to the very end, logically, reasonably, sanely.

It is very difficult to be clear and therefore

simple.

I mean by simplicity not merely what one puts on or what one takes off; I do not mean the

simplicity of outward garment, having few possessions, which are probably necessary,

but I mean much more psychologically, inwardly, because I think simplicity of approach to

a very complex problem, as suffering, is essential.

But before we can approach sorrow, I think we have to be very clear what we mean by that

word simple.

I feel that a mind which is already so complex, a mind that is so infinitely cunning, subtle,

which has so many experiences, a consciousness which has within it the residue of all time

and of the race, to reduce all this vast complexity to simplicity is very, very difficult.

And I think it has to be done, otherwise we shall not go beyond conflict and sorrow.

So, the question is—given all this complexity with knowledge, with considerable experience,

with various types of memories and experiences—how to look at sorrow and to be free of sorrow,

if that is at all possible.

First of all, I think, definition and explanation are really detrimental to find out for oneself

how to think simply and directly.

Definition in words does not make the mind simple.

Explanations do not bring about the clarity of perception.

So it seems to me one must be greatly aware of the slavery to words; and one also has

to be aware, hasn't one, that it is necessary to have words to communicate.

But what is communicated is not the word.

The communication is beyond the word—it's the feeling which cannot be put into words.

A really simple mind, which does not mean an ignorant mind, a mind that is free to follow,

to follow the subtle facts, all the nuances, the movements of a given fact: and to do that

the mind must, surely, be free from the slavery of words.

And I think such freedom brings about an austerity of simplicity.

When there is that simplicity, then I think we can look and try to understand what is

sorrow.

I think simplicity of approach, simplicity of mind, and sorrow, are related.

Because to live in sorrow throughout our time for years, is surely, to put it very mildly,

the most foolish thing to do.

To live in conflict, to live in sorrow, to live in frustration, always entangled in fear,

in ambition, and the urge to fulfil and to be a success, with all its conflicts, fears,

sorrows—to live a whole life in that state seems to me so utterly foolish, unnecessary.

And to be free of sorrow, one must approach this complex problem very simply.

Now, there are various kinds of sorrows: physical pain, and psychological frustrations, the

physical disease, toothache, losing a limb, having poor eyesight, and so on; and the sorrow

that comes into being when one loses somebody whom you love; when you have no capacity and

you see people who have capacity; when you have no talent and you see people with talent,

who have success, money, position, prestige, power.

There is the urge to fulfil, and in the shadow of fulfilment, there is always frustration,

and with it comes sorrow.

So, there are these two types of sorrow: the physical and the psychological.

One may lose one's arm, and then the whole problem comes, the sorrow comes, when the

mind goes back into the past, that it is no longer able to play tennis, no longer able

to do certain things.

It goes back into the past, remembers what it has done, and

compares; and in that process sorrow is engendered.

We are familiar with that.

The fact is, I have lost my arm.

That's a fact.

No amount of theorizing, no amount of explanation, no amount of self pity will bring that arm

back.

But the mind indulges in self pity, going back to the past: how I enjoyed playing tennis,

doing certain things, and now it is not capable.

So, the fact of the present in contradiction with what has been—this comparison invariably

brings conflict, and out of that conflict is sorrow.

That's one kind of sorrow.

Then there is the psychological thing.

My brother, my son is dead, he's gone; no amount of theorizing, explaining, believing,

hoping will ever bring him back.

He's gone—that's a fact, a ruthless, uncompromising reality: he's gone.

And the other fact is, I am very lonely because he's gone: lonely, no companion.

We played together, we watched together, we laughed together, we said things, we knew

each other; and the companionship is gone and I'm left.

And I know what that loneliness is.

Loneliness is a fact, and the death is a fact.

I may accept the fact of his death: I have to.

But I do not accept the fact of being alone, of being lonely in this world.

Then, as I do not accept the fact of being alone, lonely; as I do not accept it, then

I begin to invent theories, hopes, explanations, escapes from the fact.

So these escapes, explanations, beliefs, hopes, bring about sorrow—not the fact that I'm

lonely, not the fact that my brother is dead.

The fact can never bring sorrow, and I think that is important to understand if the mind

is to be really, totally, completely free from sorrow.

And I think it is possible to be totally free from sorrow when the mind no longer seeks

explanations, no longer escapes, but faces the fact.

I do not know if you have ever tried this.

We know what death is—I am not talking about death in the large sense; we will, another

day—we know what death is, and the extraordinary fear that it invokes.

And it is a fact that we will die, each one of us, whether we like it or not.

Either we rationalize death, or escape in beliefs and therefore sustain fear; and if

a mind really is concerned to go to the very end to discover if it is possible to be totally,

completely free of sorrow, not in time, in the present, now.

Because we have theories: of karma, reincarnation, resurrection, and innumerable ways, ideas,

beliefs which help us to escape from the fact.

Now, can each one of us intelligently, sanely face the fact that my son, brother, sister,

wife, husband, whatever it is, is dead, and I am lonely—and not escape from that loneliness,

not seek explanations, not have cunning beliefs in which we take shelter.

To really accept the fact of everything—that I

have no talent, that I am a dull, stupid person, that I'm lonely, that my beliefs, my religious

structures, spiritual values are so many defences—can I look at these facts and not seek out ways

and means to escape?

Is it possible?

I think it is possible only when we are not concerned with time, with tomorrow.

We are lazy, our minds are lazy, and so we say, "We'll get over it, give me time."

Time doesn't wipe away sorrow.

We forget, but sorrow is there all the time, deep down.

And to wipe away sorrow in its entirety, completely, so that the mind is no longer in the shadow

of sorrow—I think it is possible, so that there is no suffering, not tomorrow, not in

the course of time, but to see the reality in the present and to go beyond it.

After all, why should we suffer?

Suffering is a disease.

And as you go to a doctor or to someone to rid you of that disease, why should we bear

sorrow of any kind?

Please, I'm not talking rhetorically, which would be too stupid.

Why should we, each one of us, have any sorrow?

And is it possible to be rid of it completely?

You see, that question implies, why should we be in conflict?

Sorrow is conflict.

Why should there be conflict at all?

We say conflict is necessary, it is part of existence; everything around us is in conflict:

nature, all human beings are in conflict.

And to be, to have no conflict is not possible.

We accept conflict as inevitable, within and without, inside the skin and in the world.

To me, conflict is not necessary, of any kind.

You may say, "That is a peculiar idea of your own, it has no value.

It is very nice for you who are alone, unmarried, and all the rest of the bilge.

We have to live in the world; we must be in conflict with our neighbours; we are in conflict

with our jobs; everything that we touch and do breeds conflict."

I think it has to do with right education—not to think in competition, not to compare.

I wonder if one understands through comparison, if one really sees directly by comparing?

Or, you see directly, simply, only when comparison has ceased, which means, when the mind is

no longer trying to be ambitious, to be, become something—which does not mean that we must

be satisfied with what we are.

I think to live without comparison, comparing yourself with another, comparing what you

are with what should be, but being, facing what is all the time, wipes away totally all

comparative values—actually seeing what is— thereby, I think, we can eliminate sorrow.

And I think it is very important for a mind to be free from sorrow, because then life

has a totally different meaning.

You see, another unfortunate thing that we do is to seek comfort—not physical comfort

but psychological comfort.

We went to take shelter in an idea.

When that idea fails, we are in despair, which again breeds sorrow.

So, can the mind not live, function, be, without any shelter, without any refuge, and live

from day to day, facing every fact as it arises and never seeking an escape, facing what is

all the time, every minute of the day?

Then I think we'll find that not only there is the ending of sorrow, but also the mind

becomes astonishingly simple and clear.

It is able to perceive directly, without words,

without the symbol.

I do not know if you have ever thought without words.

Is there any thinking with¬out verbalizing?

Or is all thinking merely words—not only words, but symbols, pictures, imagination?

You see, all these, like words, symbols, ideas, are detrimental to clear sight, to see things.

And a mind that would go to the very end of sorrow to find out if it is possible to be

totally free—not eventually—but living every day to be free from sorrow, one has

to go very deeply into oneself to rid of all these explanations, words, ideas, beliefs,

so that the mind is cleansed and is capable of seeing what is.

Shall we...

Perhaps we can ask questions and discuss this, what we have been talking about this morning.

Questioner: (inaudible)

KRISHNAMURTI: The gentleman asks, when there is sorrow one wants to do something about

it, and still one is afraid to do what one wants to do.

Sir, as we were saying the other day, we want to live with pleasure, don't we?

We don't want to change it, do we?

We want it to continue all day and all night and everlastingly.

We don't want to alter it, we don't want even to touch it, to breathe upon it, because

we want to hold it, don't we?

The thing that delights us, that gives us joy, pleasure, sensation, like going to church,

sitting everlastingly, day after day at mass—it gives a great deal of excitement, sensation.

You don't want to alter that feeling.

You feel that you are very near to the source of things.

We want to do that, don't we?

Why can't we live equally, with the same intensity, with the same urgency, with sorrow,

not wanting to do a thing about it?

Have you ever tried it?

Have you ever tried to live with a physical pain?

Have you ever tried to live with noise?

Let's begin much more simply.

When the dog is barking of a night when you want to go to sleep in the country, and it

keeps on barking, barking, what do you do?

You resist it, you throw, you curse it, you do all kinds of things.

But if you went with the noise, listened to the barking without any resistance.

I don't know if you have ever tried this.

You should try it sometime: never to resist.

And you don't resist where pleasure is concerned.

On the contrary, you want more of it.

In the same way, to live without resistance, without choice, with sorrow, never seeking

escape, never [having an] explanation, never any hope and thereby despair—to live with

it.

You know what it means to live with something?

It's to love it.

When you love someone, you want to live with that person, don't you?

In the same way, to live with sorrow—I don't mean sadistically—but to

live with sorrow, never trying to avoid it, see the whole picture of it, the source of

it, the intensity of it, the utter superficiality of it also, which means that you can't do

anything about it as you don't want to do anything about that which gives you intense

pleasure.

You don't want to alter the shape of pleasure; you don't want to put it in a frame, you

want to let it flow: in the same way to live with sorrow, which means, really, to love

sorrow.

And that requires a great deal of energy, a great deal of understanding, watching all

the time to see whether the mind is escaping from the fact.

And it's terribly easy to escape: a drug, a drink, turning on the radio, books, chatter,

knowledge.

And to live with something entirely, totally—whether it's pleasure or pain—requires a mind

that is intensely alert.

And, when the mind is so alert, it creates its own action, or rather, the action comes

from the fact, and the mind hasn't to do anything about the fact.

Questioner: In case of physical pain, do you mean to say that we do not go to see the doctor?

KRISHNAMURTI: The gentleman asks, if I have physical pain, as toothache, shouldn't I

go to the dentist?

I think that would be rather silly, wouldn't it, if you couldn't go to the dentist.

If you had some kind of physical ailment, shouldn't you go to the doctor?

Questioner: (inaudible)

KRISHNAMURTI: That's right, sir.

The gentleman.

says, when you have a toothache, you don't argue about it.

Sir, aren't we being rather superficial when we ask such a question?

I am, we are, talking of both the physical pain and suffering as well as [the] psychological,

inward, emotional—you know, all that suffering, mental suffering, the tortures that one goes

through for some idea, for some belief, for some person, wanting to hold that person.

We all know these things.

We are talking about, we are asking ourselves, whether it is possible to be totally free

from inward sorrow.

Sir, our organism, physical organism is a machine and it does go out of order—you

have to do something about it.

You do the best thing you can and get on with it.

But to see that the mechanical organism doesn't interfere with the mind, pervert the mind,

twist the mind, and the mind remains healthy in spite of physical diseases.

And whether the mind, which is the source of all enlightenment, and of all conflict,

misery and sorrow, whether the mind can be free from sorrow, uncontaminated by physical

diseases and all the rest of it—whether it is possible.

After all, we're all growing old, every day.

And whether it is possible to keep the mind young, fresh, innocent, not weighed down by

tremendous experiences and knowledge and misery.

I feel a young mind, an innocent mind is absolutely necessary to discover what is true, if there

is something as God, as truth, or what name you may like to give to it.

An old mind, a mind that is tortured, full of suffering, can never find the other.

And to make sorrow into something extraordinary, something that will eventually lead you to

heaven, I think that's absurd.

And in Christianity, suffering is extolled as the way to enlightenment.

One must be free from suffering, from the darkness, and then only the light can be.

Questioner: (inaudible)

KRISHNAMURTI: "Is it possible to be free from sorrow when I see so much sorrow around

me?"

What do you think?

You go to the East, to India, Asia, and you will see a great deal of sorrow, physical

sorrow, starvation, lack of food, degradation, poverty.

That's one type of sorrow.

You come to the modern world, where everybody is so actively busy decorating the outward

prison, and they also are very poor, inwardly empty, but outwardly enormously rich, prosperous.

There is also sorrow.

What can you, as an individual, do about it?

What can you do about my sorrow?

Can you help me?

Do think it out, sirs.

Can you help me?

Now, wait a minute, wait a minute.

I talked this morning for about half an hour about sorrow and how to be free of sorrow.

Do I help you?

Actually help you in the sense, rid of it, not carry it with you for another day, to

be totally free of sorrow.

Can I help you?

Do I help you?

I don't think so.

Questioner: In a sense, surely.

KRISHNAMURTI: The lady says, in a sense, yes.

But please, just a minute.

When I said I don't think so, I mean by that, you have to do all the work, I'm only

pointing out.

Therefore, the sign is of no value, in the sense you don't sit there and go on reading

the sign everlastingly.

To face loneliness and go to the very end of it—what is implied in it.

Can I help the sorrow of the world?

We know the anguish that one goes through, the despairs, not only one's own but [that

which] you see in the faces of others.

You can point out, you can tell them that's the door through which to go to be free, but

most people want to be carried through the door.

They worship the carrier, or make one a saviour, a master, which is all sheer nonsense.

Questioner: You spoke of the barking of a dog in the night.

Do you think that provokes physical pain or psychological sorrow?

KRISHNAMURTI: Both.

The barking of a dog at night, surely, is both physical pain (laughing), isn't it?

Sir, one must take certain things very seriously, and other things you must play with it.

To take things seriously, as I pointed out, is to go to the very end of it, the capacity

to pursue sorrow to the very end and see if the mind can be utterly free from the darkness

of it.

And that requires a great deal of alertness, watchfulness—that one has to take seriously,

but to take... one has to take seriously also physical pain, but that's at a different

level.

Questioner: (inaudible)

KRISHNAMURTI: I beg your pardon?

Questioner: (inaudible)

KRISHNAMURTI: Ah.

"What use is a free person to another, what use is a free person to another, if he can't

help him?"

How terribly utilitarian we are, aren't we?

We want to use everything to our benefit or to somebody else's benefit.

What use is a flower on the roadside?

What use is a cloud beyond the mountain?

What's the use of love?

Can you use love?

Has charity any use?

Has humility any use?

To be without ambition in a world that's full of ambition—has that any use?

To be kind, to be gentle, to be generous—these have no uses to a man who is not generous.

A free person is utterly useless to a man who is ridden with ambition.

And as most of us are caught in ambition, in success, he is of very little significance.

He may talk about freedom, but what we are concerned [with] is success.

All that he can tell you is to come over to the other bank of the river and see the beauty

of the sky, the loveliness of being simple, to love, to be kind, to be generous, to be

without ambition.

And very few people want to come to the other shore.

And, therefore, the man who is on the other shore is of very little use.

Probably you'll put him in a church and worship him—that's about all.

Questioner: To live with sorrow seems to imply the prolongation of sorrow which...

(inaudible)

KRISHNAMURTI: 'To live with sorrow implies prolongation of sorrow, and we shrink from

the prolongation of sorrow."

I didn't mean that, surely.

To live with something—whether ugliness or beauty—one has to be very intense, hasn't

one, otherwise it corrupts you.

To live with these mountains day after day, day after day, if you're not alive to them,

if you don't see them, if you don't love them, if you don't see the beauty of them

all the time, their changing colours, shadows, you become like these peasants who have seen

it and have become dull.

That beauty also corrupts, as something ugly corrodes the mind.

When I said to live with sorrow, it's to live with the mountains, because sorrow makes

the mind dull, stupid.

But to live with sorrow implies watching endlessly; and that doesn't prolong sorrow, the moment

you understand the whole thing.

You see, I feel when we see something totally, it's finished.

When we see the totality of sorrow, the whole construction, the anatomy, the inwardness

of it, see it—I don't mean theorize about it—actually see the fact of it, the totality

of it, then it drops away.

And the rapidity, the swiftness of perception depends on the mind.

And if the mind is cluttered up, not simple, direct—cluttered up with beliefs, hopes,

fears, despairs, wanting to change the fact, the what is—then you prolong sorrow.

Questioner: (inaudible)

KRISHNAMURTI: Yes.

Yes, sir.

Now, will you take time to experiment with it?

Questioner: (inaudible)

KRISHNAMURTI: Sir, I...

Sir, just a minute.

The gentleman says, it will take time to see the totality of something, the totality of

sorrow.

Questioner: That is not my meaning.

To get rid of preconceptions may take time, but seeing the totality of something is continuous.

KRISHNAMURTI: Yes, sir.

Questioner: But our preconceptions are in the way.

We have to tackle them.

That may take time.

KRISHNAMURTI: Sir, I understand.

To see that one is lonely, and also to be aware that one wants to escape from it, are

both instantaneous.

They are instantaneous, aren't they?

I am lonely for various...

I am lonely, and I don't like that state, and I want to escape from it.

Now, the fact that I'm lonely, and the fact that I want to escape, I can perceive immediately,

can't I?

Instantly I can see that.

And I can also see instantly that any form of escape is an avoidance of the fact of loneliness,

which I must understand.

I can't push it aside.

Now, when I'm not escaping in any form, then I can face the fact, can't I, instantly.

You see, our difficulty, I think, is we are so attached to the things which we have escaped

to, they have become so important to us, they have become so extraordinarily respectable;

and if we cease to be respectable—God knows what would happen!

Therefore, our attachment to respectability, to the things that we have escaped to, becomes

all-important and not the fact that I want to understand totally what is loneliness,

or any other thing.

Questioner: If we don't have that intensity in us, what can we do about it?

KRISHNAMURTI: The lady asks, If we do not have the intensity, what can we do about it?

I wonder if we want that intensity?

Because to be intense implies destruction, doesn't it?

Shattering everything that we have considered so important in life.

And, we are afraid; and perhaps fear prevents us from being intense.

You know, we all want to be terribly respectable, don't we, the young as well as the old.

Respectability means recognition by society; and society only recognizes that which is

successful: the important, the famous.

The rest society isn't concerned with.

So we worship success and respectability.

And when you don't seek success, when you no longer care whether you're respectable

or not, whether you succeed, whether you are somebody or not, then there is intensity,

which means, there is no fear, which means, there is no conflict, no contradiction within

and, therefore, you have all the abundant energy that is necessary to pursue the fact

to the very end.

I think we had better stop, it's twelve.

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Krishnamurti: I nearly forgot.

In investigating these questions

we are going to have a dialogue.

A dialogue is a conversation between two people.

You ask the question,

the speaker answers it

then you respond to that answer,

and when you respond to that answer

then the speaker answers your response.

So in this process of questioning,

answering, answering,

and the very answering is being questioned,

so this keeps going

till both the questioner and the speaker disappear altogether,

only the question remains.

You understand?

I wonder if I can make this clear.

It is very important

that the question remains suspended as it were.

And when you ask a question

and the speaker answers that question,

and you respond to that question through that answer

– you are following this? No, I am afraid not.

Please, this is rather complicated.

I don't know how to put it across

so that we really understand this problem, this question.

Because in questioning and answering,

from each one of us,

till you and the speaker are no longer important

but only the question remains.

And as the question remains, it gains vitality, energy.

You understand this?

We are going to try this morning.

Have you finished with your waving, sir?

This is a rather serious question that we are putting before you,

that what is important is

we must ask questions

if you are at all serious.

And in questioning,

the answer may be correct or incorrect

but you must respond to that answer,

and then when you respond,

the speaker then questions what you have responded,

so in this process

you as the questioner and I who responds

disappear altogether so that only the question remains.

You understand it?

Do we meet this at all, some of us at least?

Because we never ask questions,

which is,

we want the answer to be comfortable,

suitable, convenient, hopeful.

But in questioning and answering, all that disappears.

We are trying to find out what is the true, what is factual,

what is the correct answer, correct response, precisely.

So, to find that out you and I must totally disappear,

only the question and answer remains.

You get it? I hope some of you get it.

It is a lovely morning,

a few drops of rain,

and the earth is rich and beautiful,

and to have a relationship with these trees,

with nature,

with those marvellous clouds you perhaps saw this morning,

full of beauty, full of light and astonishing shapes.

And we never look at these things,

we are too much concerned with ourselves.

And to go beyond ourselves requires a great deal of thought,

enquiry and so on.

We are not dealing with theories or principles or ideas,

we are dealing with our daily life.

Not corresponding our daily life to some theory, some teaching,

whether it is the teachings of the Buddha

or the teachings of somebody else.

We are not concerned with the teaching of others,

we are concerned to find out for ourselves

how to live without conflict,

without pain.

And that doesn't depend on any theory.

And especially in this country, you live on words,

phrases,

tremendous knowledge of what other people have said,

you are full of commentaries.

And you never discover for yourself

when you depend or follow other people's concepts

and principles and teachings.

So please,

let's find out if we can live

without comparison

and therefore without conflict,

to see if we can really

fundamentally change our way of living.

Because the world is in a great crisis

– I don't know if you know all about it –

tremendous crisis,

not only physical crisis

but crisis in consciousness of human beings.

So please, let's be serious,

in spite of the beauty and the light among the trees.

Question 1: For the last seven years,

whatever work I have attempted to undertake

whether inwardly, psychologically, or externally

in the fields of business, finance, education, family and so on,

has ended in failure.

Anything that I have touched has turned to ashes.

What is the cause of this state of affairs

and what is the remedy?

For the last seven years, whatever work I have attempted to undertake

whether inwardly, psychologically, or externally

in the fields of business, finance, education, family and so on,

has ended in failure.

Anything that I have touched has turned to ashes.

What is the cause of this state of affairs

and what is the remedy?

Are you interested in this question?

Are you interested in this question,

or is it somebody else's question in which you are not interested,

and only interested in your own question?

The questioner asks why

everything he has touched outwardly, inwardly,

has turned into ashes,

and what is the cause of it and what is the remedy?

It is a rather interesting question if you go into it carefully.

We all want to succeed.

We worship the god of success or the goddess of success,

politically, religiously

and in the field of business, science,

you all want to be recognised,

rewarded,

famous.

I do not know if you have watched among the scientists

the in-fighting that goes on amongst themselves,

among the professors, amongst the business people.

My family is better than your family

– you know, the whole process of the desire to succeed.

What is success?

Please, I am asking you the question,

you have to reply to it.

You can't all reply,

then too much noise, we wouldn't understand each other,

but you must respond to that.

Why is it that we all seek to be successful?

What does successful mean?

Answer it inwardly for yourself.

To fulfil your desires,

to have more money,

to be famous,

to have the Nobel Prize,

and if you can't you are jealous, angry, fighting?

So what does success mean?

And you are a disciple of some guru

– I hope you aren't –

if you are, you want to attain, whatever that may mean,

you want enlightenment, whatever that may mean.

It is the same process in the business world,

in the psychological world,

in the so-called spiritual world,

we all want to be successful,

to achieve something

– why?

Why this tremendous urge in the affluent society

and in society that is not so?

What is the human urge that propels us,

drives us to seek success?

Please, answer it.

Is it that through power, through money,

you have freedom and you can enjoy that freedom?

Money has become very important,

and having no money also becomes important.

Power, political power, religious power,

the idols that are in the temple with their priests,

all that is a form of power.

You all want that,

power over somebody or other,

and all this you call success.

You are not so beautiful, you want to be beautiful,

and so on and on and on.

Does success depend on comparison?

On competition?

You are answering, please.

In business,

every boy wants to be successful in examinations,

and so on.

What does all that mean,

this tremendous urge to be successful,

to achieve, to become?

Please answer that – to become.

I am not this but I will become that.

I am poor, I am going to work like blazes

and get powerful, money, better position,

which is this everlasting struggle to become something.

You are an apprentice to a barrister

and then you want to be the barrister,

you know the game that we all play to become something.

What is it that is becoming?

Please answer this question to yourselves:

what is it that is becoming?

Your desire to achieve your goal,

to achieve a better position, a status

– what is it that is becoming, the thing that is becoming?

You understand my question?

I am nothing but I will become something.

What is it that says, I am nothing but I will become something?

You understand my question?

I am angry, violent, I will become non-violent.

That is your game you play.

But in the meantime you are sowing the seeds of violence.

Please,

this is important to find out for oneself,

what is it that is becoming?

Is it desire?

If it is desire,

to have a car, to have a better house,

to have a better wife,

more beautiful, more subservient, domestic

– so is desire the root of becoming?

I am not saying anything against desire

so don't withhold it.

We are just questioning each other.

Is it that desire,

seeing a beautiful house, a lovely garden, if you want,

if you have ever seen a beautiful house

with a lovely garden,

a lawn that is kept beautifully without a single weed,

and you see it, and you say, 'My God, I wish I had it!'

That is becoming. Right?

So what is desire?

You answer that question, please.

So I desire to become successful in various fields

or in the career I have chosen.

I have an object I must have at the end of so many years,

of whatever target you have,

and you strive after it.

If you have not had children, you want children.

It is the same thing – desire.

Right?

The desire to achieve nirvana,

desire to achieve illumination,

desire to go to America

or become a great scientist so that you can win a Nobel Prize,

it is the same movement, the becoming.

So we must enquire not only into one of the facets of becoming,

which is desire, and what is desire?

Now, I have asked that question,

the speaker has asked that question.

It remains there.

It is in the air.

How do you respond to that question?

Or do you leave that question to flower, grow,

see all the implications of it?

You understand?

You have a map in front of you,

a map of this country.

If you have a certain spot or certain town you want to go to,

you disregard the rest of the map.

You have a direction to go to

and you pursue that in the map.

You never look at the whole of the map

because you have only one pursuit,

because you want to be successful,

you want to achieve.

If you don't achieve you are nobody,

you are frightened.

If you call yourself Ph.D.,

your family purrs, delighted.

If you have a Nobel Prize, all the papers throughout the world

– except perhaps behind the Iron Curtain –

publish your name, you become famous, rich.

But it is the same movement

whether your desire is for illumination, enlightenment,

or for the Nobel Prize,

or to be a rich man in a potty little town.

Right, sir?

So we are asking, what is desire?

If one can understand that,

not suppress it, not control it,

not try to transcend it,

like a monk who has a desire only for God,

whatever God that may be,

and it is the desire to achieve that kingdom that drives him.

He still has the fire of desire

as you have.

So what is desire?

Find out, sir. I have put the question.

How do you respond to that question?

Probably you have never even thought about it,

you probably never even

– I am saying this most respectfully –

you never even investigated it.

If you have desire you want to fulfil it,

with all the problems involved in it.

If you are a slightly moral person,

you say, I mustn't have that desire, you suppress it.

The monks throughout the world have suppressed desires

but only identified that desire with a figure,

a symbol, an idea, a principle.

But it is still desire.

So let us ask,

the speaker is asking you: what is desire?

Don't quote me,

because then you haven't understood if you quote somebody else.

The speaker has talked a great deal about desire

and some of you may have read those books,

and the word is not the fact,

what you read is not what you are.

So what is more important is what you are.

So, to come back, what is desire?

And why is it

it has become so extraordinarily vital in our life?

Questioner: Is it I want a meaning to my life?

K: Beg your pardon? Q: Is it that

I want a meaning to my life that I have a desire?

Q: She said that, I want a meaning to my life.

K: So you want a meaning to life.

Which means you have no meaning to life.

Right?

You have no meaning, life has no meaning,

therefore you try to give, intellectually or another way,

to give a meaning to life.

So, if you give a meaning to life, it is not life.

If you want to give a significance to that tree

then you don't know the beauty of the tree.

If you want to give significance to your empty life

– you may be married, children, all the rest of the business,

and you find when you are about forty, fifty, sixty,

life has no meaning,

then you try to give meaning to it,

by going to the temple, literature,

playing the violin, painting,

anything to escape from what you are.

Right, sirs?

You are talking about your life,

not theories,

not what other people have said.

So what is desire?

Come on, sir, look at it.

We live by sensation,

and sensations are the responses of our senses,

and we use only one or two senses,

eyesight or hearing.

Sensation is our way.

One must have sensations otherwise you are paralysed,

as most of you are.

Paralysed in a country

that is going down the hill,

paralysed by your gods, by your philosophy,

by your way of life.

I am not criticising, these are facts.

So unless you are totally paralysed

you have the movement of sensation,

senses are operating.

When you look at that tree

and the beauty of light among the leaves,

there is a response, there is a sensation.

Right?

When you see a beautiful woman you have sensations.

When you see a very, very clever man,

as most of you are

– you are a very clever people,

too clever by half,

you have explanation for everything,

you are good at analysis, explanations.

Those analyses, explanations,

quotations have nothing to do with your daily life,

so there is a wide gap between your theories,

religious concepts, philosophical knowledge,

has nothing whatever to do with your daily living,

and that is why you are all living a life that has no meaning.

So let's proceed. What is desire?

How does desire arise?

What is the relationship between desire and thought?

Go slowly. I am asking all these questions.

Who is the controller who controls desire?

And why all religions

say you mustn't have desire

– more or less, in different terminologies.

So unless we understand very deeply the activity of desire,

not the objects of desire,

not the objects of desire but desire itself.

A child may want to be an engine driver

or he may want to be a first-class pianist,

but it is still desire, and so on.

We are not concerned with the objects of desire

but desire itself.

Right?

Q: Desire and survival are inseparable.

K: Desire and survival are inseparable.

What is it to survive? What does it mean to survive?

Survive physically?

If you want to survive physically and be secure physically

you must have no nationalities,

because tribalism, which is glorified nationalism,

is destroying the world.

Right?

Ideals, ideologies of Russia

and the ideologies of the democratic world

are destroying humanity.

So there is no security. You are not surviving.

The danger is there but you are blind to it

because you say nationalism is security.

So security, survival, has a meaning only

when you don't belong to any country,

to any group, to any religion.

Then you are a strong person

both biologically as well as psychologically.

You are a free human being

and you might help to prevent the stupidities of politicians

and the voters.

So let's proceed. What is desire?

What is the origin, the beginning of desire?

I see you.

There is the seeing

of the colour of that sari or that shirt,

the seeing with the eye, visual perception,

and there is a sensation,

which is: I don't like that colour but I like that colour.

You are following this?

Seeing, from which arises a sensation,

then I contact the sari or the shirt,

contact in the sense touch it,

sensation, contact,

and from that contact greater sensation.

Which is, I see a beautiful shirt in the window

or a sari or whatever you want,

seeing then going inside and touching the material

and from that touching greater sensation.

Right? You are following this?

Don't you do this ordinarily in your daily life?

Q: Yes.

K: That is what you are doing

– seeing, contact and greater sensation.

Now, what happens after that?

No, I am asking you the question – think it out.

Sir, think it out, go into it carefully.

I see that beautiful house.

The seeing creates a sensation.

If I am a friend of that house

I go inside, look at the walls, look at the shape of the windows.

All that is a sensation.

Then what takes place?

Q: I want to have it. K: Yes, that is sensation.

K: I am asking

– please do pay a little attention if you are interested in it.

We must have sensations,

otherwise you are biologically, physically paralysed.

If your arm doesn't feel

then that arm is paralysed.

So there must be sensation.

That is a natural, healthy state.

If I ask you a question and if you are actively mentally aware

you respond to it.

But if you are tired, sleepy, lazy,

or burdened with philosophy,

burdened with other people's sayings,

then you can't respond.

You will say what other people have said.

So there is the seeing, contact, sensation.

This is natural, healthy.

Then what takes place?

It is all so rapid, so instantaneous,

so we are slowing it down.

Then what takes place?

Q: The sensation is registered in the brain.

K: Yes sir, Of course. Then what?

Don't go into great explanations.

We have made a very simple statement.

Q: But after, that brain is refreshed.

K: No sir, just look at it before you answer it.

I must go on otherwise you will throw lots of words at me.

I see that house,

the seeing, touching the marble,

looking at the pillars,

looking at the good windows,

and that is sensation.

Then what takes place?

Then thought comes in and says,

'How nice it would be if I had that house.'

See what takes place.

Then thought uses the sensation.

And thought is also another sensation.

Thought creates the image,

my image that I must have that house.

That is, sensation, then thought instantly

creates the image of me living in that house.

Have you understood it?

Have you understood something?

That is, thought takes charge of the sensation

and out of that sensation create the image,

and the image is owning that house

or that car or that something or other.

You have followed this?

So, watch it carefully.

Sensation is healthy, normal,

then thought comes along and says,

out of that sensation creates the image.

And when thought shapes the sensation,

at that second desire is born.

Don't agree,

don't say, yes, that is a good explanation.

Now, if you don't shake your head in agreement

then why are you a slave to desires?

Right?

You are too quick to agree with anything that is said.

But I am pointing out most respectfully

that we are always trained to control, suppress, transcend,

escape in various forms from desire.

Have you noticed the sannyasis in this country

and the monks in Europe, especially in Italy?

They are walking down the street and they have the Bible

and never look around because of temptation.

So, book.

And the sannyasis in this country,

I have followed many of them, behind them,

they are chanting something or other,

never look at the beauty of the earth,

the flowers, the streams, the sky, the passing woman

– but, 'don't be tempted.' Right?

So, I am asking you a question:

sensation is right, natural, healthy.

Can thought not interfere?

When thought takes charge of sensation,

at that second desire is born.

You understand this?

Sensation is natural, and a gap when thought doesn't interfere.

You understand what I am saying?

So can thought abstain for a few seconds?

That means tremendous awareness,

great attention.

Don't say: what is attention, what is awareness,

go off into some explanation.

To see sensation is natural,

and discover for yourself

that the moment thought takes charge of the sensation,

at that second desire is born

– I want that house or that woman or that something or other.

Right?

To be aware,

to pay attention so that thought doesn't take charge of sensation.

That is timeless. I won't go into all that.

You have never thought about all this.

you are all grown-up people.

You have ashes on your head, go to temples,

and all kinds of childish stuff,

and you haven't even gone into yourself,

you have never even thought to ask these questions.

So, discipline is not the end of desire.

Discipline itself becomes desire.

Right?

But if you learn what is desire, learn,

not from the speaker, from yourself,

understand, investigate, go into it,

then it is yours, you are learning.

There was a great Spanish painter.

He was 95 or more or less – Goya –

he said, 'I am still learning.' You understand?

So learning is everlasting

but knowledge is not,

knowledge is limited, finite.

But you are learning.

So if one learns,

not learn about desire

but if you are learning the meaning of desire,

what is involved in it, how it arises, keep on learning,

then that very learning brings its own discipline.

If you want to be a good chemist, good biologist,

that very subject becomes the means of training,

of discipline.

You don't know any of these things.

Where do you all live?

Not in Triplicane, Madras or around here

– where do you live?

If life has no meaning

and all the temples are full of things

made by hand and by the mind,

which you are worshipping,

all this has no meaning at all anymore.

So please ask this question of yourself:

why life, which is an extraordinary thing,

great complexity, great depth and great beauty,

why that life has become so shoddy.

Question 2: We are unable to see the crises in our lives

with all our senses – as you put it.

Consequently we are in endless misery.

How can we gather our entire energy and see 'what is'?

We are unable to see the crises in our lives

with all our senses – as you put it.

Consequently we are in endless misery,

and how can we gather our entire energy to see 'what is'?

This is the question. You have understood the question?

Why do you say, 'as you put it'?

Why are you concerned what the speaker has said?

You understand?

What is important is what you think, what you feel.

Burn all the books including the speaker's,

and look.

The question is:

we have crises in our lives

and we are unable to solve them or meet them correctly

and so we are in endless misery.

How can we gather this tremendous energy necessary

to meet this crisis?

That is the question.

Where is the crisis?

Crisis economically, socially,

politically, religiously

– is it out there or in us?

Where is the crisis?

Tell me.

We like to think crisis is out there.

Q: The crisis is only in our mind – I think so.

K: Yes sir, that is in your own consciousness,

in your own being, first.

Is that so? You understand?

We say no, it is not out there

– so where is it?

If it isn't out there it must be in you.

Therefore you are the crisis.

Right? Do you accept that?

You as a human being are the real crisis,

not politics, not war,

not the crisis in business or in technology or in chemistry,

but you as a human being are the crisis.

Q: There is a crisis that existed, sir.

K: Have you listened to what I said, sir?

I am not trying to suppress you, sir.

I asked you a question,

which is: is the crisis in you or in the world outside there?

If it is in you, you are the crisis.

See that, for God's sake.

Human beings are the crisis.

What, sir?

Q: The absence of human beings will solve the crisis.

K: Absence of human beings.

It is a clever remark.

You are not facing the fact.

What am I to do, sirs?

The crisis is both in the world and in us.

The crisis in the world, we have created it.

So it is a crisis outwardly and inwardly.

And the outer crisis is the product of human beings,

the result of politicians who represent the voters.

Not in the communist world,

totalitarian world,

in the democratic world the crisis is created by every human being

in electing their presidents, their prime ministers,

their chief ministers, and so on, so on, so on.

So you as a human being are responsible

for the immense crisis that we are facing.

You may not want to look at it.

You say, 'No, no, it is happening somehow,

I am not responsible for it.'

But each one of us is responsible for it.

Right?

Do you see the fact of it? Do you see the truth of it?

Do you?

If you don't, the speaker can't do anything about it.

But if you do, let's talk about it,

let us investigate it, not taking sides.

Which means, to investigate it you cannot have any prejudice,

any bias, any opinion.

A brain must be free of its prejudices to understand,

to investigate.

If the scientist is exploring matter

he cannot have preconceptions about it,

he cannot have some conclusions about it.

If he has, then his conclusions interfere with his investigation.

Right?

So he must be free from conclusion to find out what is matter.

So we must see the crisis is in us.

We have made this world,

not the nature, not the tree, thank God,

not the tiger, not the deer,

but we have made the social world, the world in which we live,

competition, all that is going on in the world.

So the society in which we live is created by us.

That society cannot be changed by legislation,

by more and more and more laws,

more and more lawyers,

more and more better politicians.

That society can be changed

only by each one of us radically changing.

That is a fact.

If you don't want to change society,

if you want to remain as you are, you are perfectly welcome.

I am not inviting you.

That is what you are going to do when you leave this place.

You may all shake your head and agree

and say how marvellous everything is,

but moment you step out of the gate you are back in your old world.

So the question is: what will make you change?

You have suffered

endlessly,

you have had problems upon problems,

pain upon pain, conflict, endless

– what will make you change all that?

More reward, more punishment,

more hell and more heaven?

All that has been offered before but you haven't changed.

I know you smile, I know you say, 'Yes, that is so.'

So what will you do to change?

So you ask: tell me, how am I to change?

Which means what? You want a system

to help you to change. Right?

Have you noticed that all systems, all systems,

whether democratic system, communist system,

a religious system, the system of meditation,

inherently contain in themselves degeneration?

Right? Have you noticed this?

All systems – don't say, my system is different –

all systems contain in themselves

a wastage of energy, which is entropy.

We are using a scientific word.

So the question is:

how to gather – not how – is it possible to gather

all your energy and face something?

You aren't getting tired? I see people yawning – sorry.

If you are tired, I'll stop.

I don't mind. I am not insulted.

If you are interested we will go on,

go on with your questioning,

not just let me talk and you just shake your head,

question back and forth.

In what manner can I gather this energy which I am wasting,

not sexually only, energy which I need

to face this crisis which I have created?

You understand?

And the questioner quotes the speaker,

saying that we must use all our senses.

Now we are going to discuss that a little.

Question and answer, I don't tell you

and you don't tell me, we are questioning each other.

So there is no authority,

there is no disciple, there is no follower,

we are questioning each other.

We use only partially our senses.

Right? That is a fact.

Either you hear only with your ears,

but you don't listen.

See the difference?

I hear what you are saying

but I don't listen to the depth of what you are saying.

Which is, I listen and the very listening is bringing a change.

But if I merely hear, it is passing wind, words.

So we use partially our senses,

we never use all our senses at the same moment.

Right? Have you noticed this?

Oh, for God's sake.

We never use all our senses,

which means we are never completely attentive,

completely giving all our attention

– which I am doing now and you are not doing it.

You understand?

That is, when I use all my senses, when I look at something,

there is that marvellous sea,

wave upon wave, the blue waters.

If you look at that sea with all your senses,

there is no centre as the 'me' looking.

I wonder if you understand.

It is only when partial senses are operating

there is the sense of the 'me'.

Have you noticed that?

Q: Sir, can all your senses listen to the birds' noise,

the birds' sound, can all your senses listen to it?

K: I am. I am listening to you with all my senses.

Q: Can you see the sound? You said all the senses.

K: You have said something:

Can you listen to that bird attentively?

Are you listening to that crow attentively?

Q: Yes, sir. K: What does that mean? Q: What should it mean?

K: I must go on. You see, you get dissipated.

I am just asking you, most respectfully,

have you ever looked at anything with all your senses?

You have never done it.

What, sir?

Q: They seem to think, when we are looking at something

we are also hearing it and feeling it and all that.

K: Sir, please, just listen.

I have put a question,

which is, have you listened or seen

or felt with all your senses?

Find out.

I am not saying you have or you have not.

I say discover for yourself

what it means to listen to that crow,

to listen to your wife,

which is much more important than the crow,

listen to your husband,

and listen with all your energy,

which means all your senses alert.

Not sexual senses,

not merely the sensory responses

but the whole totality of your energy.

One has probably never done it.

I am not criticising, I am not telling you you have not done it,

but probably you have not done it.

And if you do it

then you will discover something extraordinary for yourself,

that for that moment there is completely no problem,

no conflict,

because you are so tremendously alive,

tremendously attentive.

It is only not being able to attend that creates the problem.

But if you are attentive to what you say, to what you think

and see the division between your thinking and your action

– say one thing and do another,

which you are all so beautifully trained.

Q: A man has been starving for many days.

Is it possible for him to put all his senses?

K: Of course not, sir.

Don't bother about the man who has not had enough food.

That is a wastage of energy,

this is talk about a man who has had no food for three days,

whereas you are the crisis, not that poor chap.

So, first discover for yourself how we waste our energy,

chattering, endless chattering,

talking endlessly about Gita,

philosophy, what the Buddha said, and the counter,

chattering, chattering, chattering,

quarrelling,

conflict,

struggling – all that is wastage of energy.

When all that stops you have a tremendous energy,

and the brain becomes extraordinarily alive,

not dead.

And so to have this tremendous energy,

which is to have passion, not lust, passion,

you require a great deal of enquiry,

not separate action from what you think and what you feel,

so that we live a life that is healthy, sane, normal,

and go beyond that.

Sorry.

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