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>> Ian: I'M IAN HANOMANSING IN
TORONTO.
BEHIND ME IS THE SCENE OF A
HORRIFIC ATTACK.
THIS IS WHAT IT LOOKED LIKE
ALONG YONGE STREET JUST AFTER
LUNCHTIME, FIRST RESPONDERS
TENDING TO PEOPLE ON THE
SIDEWALK WHERE A VAN JUMPED A
CURB AND MOWED PEOPLE DOWN ONE
AFTER ANOTHER.
A BEAUTIFUL SPRING DAY IN THE
CITY ENDING IN TRAGEDY.
TONIGHT WE'LL WALK YOU THROUGH
WHAT WE KNOW ABOUT WHAT
HAPPENED.
>> Andrew: ALSO WHAT WE'RE
LEARNING ABOUT THE SUSPECT.
>> Rosemary: WHY OFFICIALS SAY
THERE ISN'T A LARGER NATIONAL
SECURITY THREAT.
>> Adrienne: AND HOW THOSE
VEHICLES
LIKE THAT VAN HAVE ALL TOO OFTEN
BEEN USED AS WEAPONS, INCLUDING
HERE IN LONDON.
THIS IS "THE NATIONAL."
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>> Ian: 10 INNOCENT BYSTANDERS
KILLED AND 15 OTHERS INJURED.
THE MURDER WEAPON IS A RENTAL
VAN.
IT HAPPENED JUST HOURS AGO WHEN
THIS STREET BECAME THE SCENE OF
SUDDEN PANIC AND DEADLY
DESTRUCTION.
>> IT'S A HORRIFIC SCENE.
IT'S SOMETHING THAT I DON'T
THINK THAT ANYBODY CAN BE
PREPARED FOR.
>> Ian: ABOUT 1:30 p.m. A
WHITE VAN JUMPED THE CUB AND
PLOWED INTO A NUMBER OF
PEDESTRIANS BEFORE SPEEDING
AWAY.
FIRST RESPONDERS TREATED VICTIMS
ON THE BLOOD OF STAINED SIDEWALK
AND 10 PATIENTS WERE TAKEN TO
SUNNYBROOK HOSPITAL.
THE EMERGENCY DEPARTMENT UNDER
LOCKEDOWN AS A SAFETY PRECAUTION
BECAUSE NO ONE REALLY KNEW THE
NATURE OF THE ATTACK.
IT HAPPENED NEAR THE CORNER OF
YONGE AND FINCH IN THE CITY'S
NORTH END.
POLICE APPREHENDED THE WHITE VAN
SOUTH OF THE CRASH SITE AND
ARRESTED THE SOLE OCCUPANT IN A
DRAMATIC CONFRONTATION.
THE NAME OF THE ALLEGED DRIVER
IS ALEK MINASSIAN.
HE'S A 25-YEAR-OLD FROM RICHMOND
HILL, ONTARIO, NORTH OF TORONTO.
HIS LINKED IN PROFILE SAYS THAT
HE'S A STUDENT AT SENECA
COLLEGE.
THE GOVERNMENT SAYS THAT THE
SUSPECT IS NOT ASSOCIATED
WITH ANY THREAT TO NATIONAL
SECURITY.
AS WITNESSES TOOK IN THE
TERRIBLE CHAIN OF EVENTS THEIR
FACES WERE ETCHED WITH THE GRIEF
AND HORROR.
CBC NEWS HAS LEARNED A LOT MORE
ABOUT THE SUSPECT, MORE ON THAT
IN A MOMENT BUT, FIRST, IOANNA
ROUMELIOTIS TAKES US THROUGH
WHAT HAPPENED.
>> Reporter: THE HORROR OF THE
AFTERMATH IS IN THE DETAILS.
THE BODIES STILL LYING ON THE
PAVEMENT.
KENNETH WU SAW THE VAN STRIKE
THE WOMAN AND THEN LOCKED EYES
WITH THE MAN BEHIND THE WHEEL.
>> HE WAS LOOKING AT ME AND SAW
THAT OLD LADY AND TURNED LEFT
AND THEN HIT THE LADY ON THE
SIDEWALK AND STARTED DRIVING
DOWN.
AS SOON AS HE PASSED MY CAR HE
TURNED AROUND AND LOOKED AT ME
FACE-TO-FACE AND I SAW THAT HE
WAS A VERY ANGRY, SCARED YOUNG
GUY.
>>> Reporter: WU SAYS THAT THE
VAN BRAKED AND THEN DRIVING OFF
AGAIN, DRIVING ON THE SIDEWALK
FOR SEVERAL MORE BLOCKS --
HITTING ONE PEDESTRIAN AFTER
ANOTHER.
KASRA EBRAHIMI WATCHED WITH
HORROR.
>> I SAW IT WAS A WHITE VAN AND
AS I REMEMBER IT WAS EXACTLY ON
THE SIDE WAY AND IT WAS LIKE A
MOVIES, IT WOULD FLY AND THINGS
LIKE THAT.
IT WAS SUPER SCARY, YEAH.
>> Reporter: ONE PERSON RUSHED
TO HELP A WOMAN WHO TRIED TO
JUMP OUT OF THE WAY.
>> A LADY WAS COMING NORTH AND
COMING NORTH BESIDE A BUS AND
SHE SAW THE CAR COMING AND SHE
TRIED TO STAND OUTSIDE BUT SHE
WAS NOT LUCKY AND SHE GOT PINNED
INTO THE BUS SHELTER AND WITH
THE GRASS.
AND SHE WAS PUSHED BACKWARDS,
LYING DOWN WITH ALL OF THE GLASS
ON TOP OF HER, BROKEN GLASS ON
TOP OF HER WITH CUTS.
>> Reporter: THE TERROR
CONTINUED FOR SEVERAL MORE
BLOCKS.
WITNESSES SAW A BABY STROLLER
FLY INTO THE AIR AND SAW THE VAN
PLOW INTO A GROUP OF PEOPLE
BEFORE FINALLY STOPPING.
>> I SAW -- I DON'T KNOW HOW CAN
I SAY IT -- THE CAR -- THE CAR
SEAT WITH THE BABY GOING ALL
LIKE THAT.
I DON'T KNOW THE BABY --
HOPEFULLY -- YEAH, HOPEFULLY THE
BABY WAS FINE.
>> GET DOWN!
>> Reporter: AFTER A DRAMATIC
POLICE STANDOFF THE MAN WAS
ARRESTED AT THE SCENE.
>> THIS IS GOING TO BE A LONG
INVESTIGATION WITH MULTIPLE
WITNESSES AND A LOT OF
SURVEILLANCE CAMERAS.
>> Reporter: HOURS LATER
DOZENS OF OFFICERS AND THE
CORONER WERE STILL HERE
ASSESSING THE CARNAGE.
THE VICTIMS ARE STILL HERE TOO.
AND PEOPLE CONTINUE TO LINE THE
STREETS.
COLIN GERVAIS LIVES AROUND THE
CORNER.
>> I CAME OUT TO PAY MY RESPECTS
TO THOSE PEOPLE BECAUSE IT COULD
HAVE BEEN ME EASILY.
IF I HADN'T HAD A DOCTOR'S
APPOINTMENT TODAY AND MY
SCHEDULE MIGHT HAVE BEEN
SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT IT MIGHT HAVE
BEEN ME WALKING IN FRONT OF
HERE.
>> I COULDN'T BELIEVE THAT IT
WAS BASICALLY OUR DOORSTEP.
AND IT MADE ME REALLY NERVOUS
AND SAD TO KNOW THAT A LOT OF
FAMILIES HAD LOST THEIR LOVED
ONES OR THEY DIDN'T KNOW WHERE
THEY WERE AND THEY COULDN'T
SITUATE THEM.
SO I'M JUST GLAD THAT WE'RE SAFE
BUT, YEAH, OUR HEARTS ARE WITH
THE FAMILIES WHO LOST SOMEBODY
TODAY.
>> Ian: AND IOANNA IS HERE NOW.
THE POLICE CHIEF IS SPEAKING
THIS EVENING.
WHAT IS THE LATEST WITH HIM?
>> Reporter: THE CRIME SCENE
IS A BIG ONE, STRETCHES ALMOST A
KILOMETRE DOWN THAT WAY.
WE SPOKE TO A COUPLE OFFICERS ON
THE SCENE AND THEY'LL BE HERE
FOR A COUPLE DAYS.
POLICE ARE PLEADING WITH THE
PUBLIC TO SEND IN ANYTHING THEY
HAVE, SNIPPETS OF VIDEO, ANY
EYEWITNESS ACCOUNTS, BECAUSE
THEY LITERALLY DO WANT TO PIECE
THIS AND CONSTRUCT THIS TIMELINE
AS ACCURATELY AS POSSIBLE.
>> Ian: AS SOON AS THIS HAPPENED
AND THEY STILL HAVE QUESTIONS ON
MOTIVE WHAT DO WE KNOW ON THAT?
>> Reporter: THEY'RE NOT
SPEAKING SPECIFICALLY ABOUT
MOTIVE AND THEY'RE NOT RULING
ANYTHING OUT YET.
HERE'S WHAT THE TORONTO POLICE
CHIEF HAD TO SAY ABOUT MOTIVE...
>> WE'RE ALL PUTTING OUR PIECES
TOGETHER TO SEE EXACTLY WHAT WE
HAVE AND AT THIS PARTICULAR
POINT IN TIME THERE'S NOTHING
THAT DOES AFFECT THE NATIONAL
SECURITY FOOTPRINT.
WE ARE LOOKING VERY STRONGLY TO
WHAT THE EXACT MOTIVATION WAS
FOR THIS PARTICULAR INCIDENT TO
TAKE PLACE AND AT THE END OF THE
DAY WE'LL HAVE A FULSOME ANSWER
AND A FULSOME ACCOUNT TO WHAT
THE CONCLUSION OF THIS IS.
>> I WILL JUST SAY TO PEOPLE
THAT I HOPE THEY WILL
UNDERSTAND, AS I KNOW THEY DO,
PEOPLE THAT COME TO THIS CITY
FROM AROUND THE WORLD THIS IS
NOT THE TRAGIC INCIDENT THAT IS
NOT REPRESENTATIVE OF HOW WE
LIVE OR WHO WE ARE OR ANYTHING
TO DO WITH LIFE IN THIS CITY ON
A DAY-TO-DAY BASIS.
AND THAT I HOPE THAT PEOPLE WILL
REFLECT ON THAT, WILL REAFFIRM
THAT, WILL GO TO WORK TOMORROW
AND PERHAPS OFFER AS SOMETIMES
IS THE CASE IN CHURCHES A SIGN
OF PEACE TO EACH OTHER.
JUST IN SOME SMALL WAY TO
ACKNOWLEDGE THAT WE'RE GOING TO
CARRY ON WITH HEAVY HEARTS BUT
THAT WE'LL CARRY ON WITH THE
LIFE THAT IS ADMIRED AROUND THE
WORLD.
WE DOLL THAT IN THE WAY THAT
TORONTONIANS DO THINGS.
>> PEOPLE ACROSS THE COUNTRY ARE
THINKING ABOUT WHAT IS HAPPENING
HERE IN TORONTO AND THINKING
ABOUT THE FAMILIES AND THE
VICTIMS.
SO I WANT TO THANK EVERYONE WHO
HAS BEEN SO READY TO SUPPORT AND
TO ENCOURAGE ANYONE WHO HAS
INFORMATION AS THE MAYOR AND THE
CHIEF HAVE SAID TO COME FORWARD.
>> Reporter: SO REASSURING
WORDS FROM THE TORONTO'S PREMIER
AND THE MAYOR BUT THIS
INVESTIGATION WILL TAKE A LONG
TIME AND FOR SURE THERE WILL BE
MORE TO HEAR ABOUT TOMORROW.
>> Ian: IOANNA THANK YOU VERY
MUCH.
>> Reporter: YOU'RE WELCOME.
>> Ian: AS WE HEARD OFFICIALS
SAY THAT THERE'S NO NATIONAL
SECURITY THREAT, NONE THAT THEY
HAVE FOUND, BUT CBC NEWS HAS
LEARNED MORE ABOUT THE SUSPECT
IN CUSTODY, ALEK MINASSIAN.
HERE'S WHAT MAY HAVE MOTIVATED
HIM... DIANA SWAIN IS LOOKING
INTO THAT ANGLE AND, DIANA, WHAT
HAVE YOU LEARNED?
>> Reporter: WELL, AS YOU HAVE
SAID THERE'S NO INDICATION SO
FAR THAT AUTHORITIES HAVE THAT
THIS WAS MOTIVATED BY TERRORISM
OR BY POLITICAL VIEWS.
WHY THEN?
SO HERE'S WHAT WE HAVE LEARNED
SO FAR ABOUT THE MAN BEHIND THE
WHEEL AND WHAT MIGHT HAVE
MOTIVATED HIM TO DO THIS.
[SIRENS]
>> THIS CELL PHONE VIDEO SHOWS
THE DRIVER AS HE STEPS OUT OF
THE VAN AND INTO THE LINE OF A
POLICE OFFICER WHO HAS HIS
WEAPON DRAWN.
THAT DRIVER HAS NOW BEEN
IDENTIFIED AS 25-YEAR-OLD ALEK
MINASSIAN.
WATCH AS HE GESTURES, APPEARING
TO TRY TO PROVOKE THE TORONTO
POLICE OFFICER INTO FIRING ON
HIM.
>> GET DOWN!
>> Reporter: AND LISTEN AS HE
YELLS AT THE OFFICER TO SHOOT
HIM.
>> COME ON, GET DOWN!
GET DOWN!
>> Reporter: TONIGHT MINASSIAN
IS IN CUSTODY AS POLICE SEARCH
FOR A MOTIVE, ONE POSSIBLE
EXPLANATION IS CIRCULATING
ONLINE, SUGGESTING THAT
MINASSIAN WAS ANGRY OVER BEING
REBUKED BY WOMEN.
IN WHAT APPEARS TO BE A POST ON
FACEBOOK WHICH A MAN WITH THE
SAME NAME
AND PICTURE OF MINASSIAN REFERS
TO THE SUPREME GENTLEMAN ELLIOT
RODGER.
>> HI, ELLIOT RODGER HERE.
>> Reporter: IN FACT, ELLIOTT
WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR A VIOLENT
RAM PAIN THAT KILLED SIX PEOPLE
AND INJURING OVER A DOZEN MORE.
>> TOMORROW IS THE DAY OF
RETRIBUTION, THE DAY IN WHICH I
WILL HAVE MY REVENGE AGAINST
HUMANITY.
>> Reporter: A VIDEO RODGER
POSTED JUST BEFOREHAND RAGED
ABOUT SUCCESSIVE WOMEN TURNING
DOWN HIS ADVANCES.
>> OH, BECAUSE GIRLS HAVE NEVER
BEEN ATTRACTED TO ME.
>> Reporter: IN THAT VIDEO MEN
WHO ALWAYS SEEM TO WIN WITH
WOMEN WERE REFERRED TO AS
"CHADS."
"STACIES," THE WOMEN WHO TURNED
MEN DOWN, RENTING THOSE LIKE
RODGER INCELS OR INTOLD TARILY
CELIBATE.
THIS POSTING SAYS THAT THE INCEL
REBEL ONE HAS ALREADY BEGUN.
WE WILL OVERTHROW ALL OF THE
CHADS AND STACYS.
CBC NEWS IS NOT ABLE TO
INDEPENDENTLY VERIFY THE POST AS
BEING MADE BY MINASSIAN.
THERE IS NO INDICATION SO FAR
THAT HE TARGETED ANY SPECIFIC
PERSON AS HE PLOWED DOWN THE
SIDEWALK BUT, RATHER, AIMED HIS
VEHICLE AT ANYONE IN HIS PATH.
>> Ian: SO, DIANA, A LOT TO
DIGEST THERE.
DIGEST THERE.
TELL US MORE ABOUT WHAT YOU KNOW
DIGEST THERE.
TELL US MORE ABOUT WHAT YOU KNOW
IN THIS CASE?
>> Reporter: THERE'S NOT A
WHOLE LOT MORE ABOUT HIM ON
SOCIAL MEDIA, IAN.
WHAT WE DID FIND IS HIS LINKED
IN PROFILE WHICH SAYS THAT HE'S
A
SENECA COLLEGE STUDENT, A
COLLEGE HERE IN TORONTO.
HE APPEARS TO HAVE BEEN A
STUDENT THERE FOR SOME TIME,
FROM 2011 TO PRESENT DAY, SO
TALKING SEVEN YEARS.
IT SEEMS THAT
HE WAS DEVELOPING AN APP, AN APP
TO HELP YOU TO FIND FREE PARKING
SPOTS IN TORONTO.
BEYOND THAT BASED ON THE FOOTAGE
WE DON'T BELIEVE THAT HE WAS
SERIOUSLY INJURED IN ANY WAY AS
HE WAS TAKEN INTO CUSTODY.
>> Ian: ALL RIGHT, DIANA SWAIN,
THANK YOU.
>> Rosemary: AS DIANA
MENTIONED THERE IN HER PIECE, A
GROUP NAME THAT YOU HAVE
PROBABLY NEVER HEARD OF ABOUT --
INCELS OR INVOLUNTARY CELIBATES
AND THEIR BRAND OF CONVERSATION
HAS BEEN BANNED FROM WEBSITES
LIKE REDDIT AND WHETHER
MINASSIAN CONSIDERED HIMSELF
THAT, BUT WHAT DOES IT
MEAN ANYWAY, TO BRAND YOURSELF
AS ONE?
ISHMAEL DARO IS WITH BUZZFEED
WHO HAS DUG INTO THIS.
GOOD TO SEE YOU.
WHAT IS THIS GROUP OF PEOPLE IF
YOU WERE TO BREAK IT DOWN FOR
US?
>> WELL, IT'S IN THE NAME,
RIGHT, IT'S INVOLUNTARY
CELIBATE.
THESE ARE YOUNG PEOPLE, MOSTLY
MEN, WHO FEEL THEY HAVE BEEN
FORCED INTO CELIBACY, THAT THEY
HAVEN'T HAD SUCCESS WITH WOMEN
IN ROMANTIC AND SEXUAL
RELATIONSHIPS AND OVER TIME, YOU
KNOW, THAT CAN REALLY CURDLE
INTO SOME REALLY RESENTFUL
SENTIMENTS ABOUT WOMEN IN
GENERAL.
>> Rosemary: DOES IT OR HAS IT
-- I GUESS THAT IT HAS -- BUT
DOES IT NORMALLY TAKE THE FORM
OF VIOLENCE?
>> WELL, I THINK THAT FOR A LOT
OF PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, THESE
TERMS -- THERE'S A HEAVY
LAYER OF IRONY.
SO IT'S NOT UNCOMMON FOR
SOMEBODY BETWEEN RELATIONSHIPS
TO JOKINGLY SAY THAT I'M
INVOLUNTARY CELIBATE.
BUT FOR PEOPLE WITHIN
COMMUNITIES WHERE THEY VERY
SERIOUSLY SELF-IDENTIFY AS THAT,
IT IS A LITTLE MORE BARBED AND
THERE IS OFTEN VERY STRONG
ANTI-WOMAN AND ANTI-FEMINIST
LANGUAGE WHERE THESE YOUNG MEN
OFTEN FEEL THEY ARE OWED
RELATIONSHIPS AND THEY'RE OWED
SEX.
AND WHEN THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN
THEY CAN GET QUITE ANGRY.
>> Rosemary: SO WOULD YOU SAY
THAT A SUB-GROUP OF SORT OF
MARGINALIZED YOUNG PEOPLE?
OR IS IT SOMETHING SLIGHTLY MORE
DANGEROUS AND NEFARIOUS?
>> WELL, I THINK THAT IT'S
IMPOSSIBLE TO TAKE THIS
OUT OF THE LARGER WORLD OF
ONLINE IN COMMUNITIES WHERE
OFTEN YOUNG MEN -- THEY MIGHT
JOIN AND NOT REALLY HAVE THEIR
IDENTITIES TOTALLY MOLDED YET
BUT OVER TIME YOU SEE THIS IN
COMMUNITIES LIKE REDDIT AND
POSTING ENOUGH AND FINDING THIS
COMMUNITY THAT CAN RADICALIZE
YOU FURTHER THAN YOU REALIZE
WHEN YOU FIRST JOINED THIS
GROUP.
YOU MIGHT HAVE ONLY WANTED TO
POST SOME MEANS OR
TRADE SOME JOKES WITH OTHER
YOUNG MEN.
>> Rosemary: YOU USED THE WORD
"RADICALIZED" WHICH IS AN
INTERESTING CHOICE OF WORDS
HERE.
I WONDER IF THERE'S CHATTER
TONIGHT ABOUT THIS INCIDENT?
IS THERE SOMEONE CLAIMING
RESPONSIBILITY OR THE GROUP
CELEBRATING IN SOME WAY?
>> I THINK THAT IT'S STILL VERY
EARLY AND PROBABLY TOO EARLY TO
SAY, BUT I WOULDN'T BE SURPRISED
IF ON SOME OF THESE DARKER
CORNERS OF THE WEB WHERE A
CERTAIN KIND OF REACTIONARY
POLITICS HAS DEVELOPED IN THE
LAST FEW YEARS, IF YOU WERE TO
LOOK TONIGHT I THINK THAT YOU
MIGHT SEE -- YOU MIGHT SEE SOME
SYMPATHY.
AGAIN, IT'S VERY EARLY TO SAY
BUT I WOULDN'T BE SURPRISED IF
HE BECOMES AN ICON, SORT OF LIKE
ELLIOT RODGER BECAME IN THE SAME
COMMUNITY.
>> Rosemary: AGAIN, WE HAVE
NOT
CONFIRMED THAT THIS ASSOCIATION
IS THERE ON THOSE WEB PAGES THAT
DIANA MENTIONED.
WOULD IT SURPRISE YOU TO SEE
THAT IT WAS?
OR IS THIS MAYBE MORE COMMON
THAN WE THINK?
>> I THINK THAT, AGAIN, IT'S TOO
EARLY, BUT THE FACT THAT THIS
POST THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT
DID SPECIFICALLY CITE ELLIOT
RODGER WHO HAS BECOME A BIT OF A
STRANGE MARTYR FIGURE IN CERTAIN
PARTS OF THE WEB, I THINK THAT
YOU CAN SEE THAT CONNECTION.
>> Rosemary: OKAY, ISHMAED
DARO, THANK YOU FOR
HELPING US TO UNDERSTAND
SOMETHING THAT NONE OF US REALLY
KNEW ABOUT UNTIL TODAY.
>>> THE FEDERAL SECURITY
OFFICIALS AND ALL LEADERS FROM
ALL LEVELS OF GOVERNMENT ARE
KEEPING A CLOSE EYE ON THE
SITUATION IN TORONTO TONIGHT.
KATIE SIMPSON HAS MORE ON THE
SECURITY THREAT IN THIS COUNTRY.
>> Reporter: CANADA'S PUBLIC
SAFETY MINISTER IS BEING CAREFUL
WITH HIS WORDS, SAYING IT IS
IRRESPONSIBLE TO SPECULATE.
>> THERE WOULD APPEAR TO BE MORE
NATIONAL SECURITY CONNECTION TO
THIS PARTICULAR INCIDENT.
>> Reporter: RALPH GOODALE
HAPPENED TO BE IN TORONTO TODAY
TO HOST A MEETING OF PUBLIC
SAFETY AND SECURITY MINISTERS
FROM G7 COUNTRIES.
HE SAYS THAT THE INCIDENT IS
UNRELATED TO THE MEETINGS AND
THERE'S NO NEED TO RAISE
CANADA'S NATIONAL SECURITY
THREAT LEVEL.
>> The Hon. Ralph Goodale: I
THINK THAT IT'S IMPORTANT TO
STATE THIS -- THERE IS NO
INFORMATION AVAILABLE TO ME AT
THE PRESENT TIME THAT WOULD LEAD
US TO CONCLUDE THAT THERE SHOULD
BE A CHANGE IN RISK LEVEL.
>> Reporter: THAT THREAT LEVEL
SITS AT MEDIUM, WHICH IS WHERE
IT HAS BEEN SINCE THE 2014
SHOOTING ON PARLIAMENT HILL.
AFTER THAT ATTACK MAJOR PUBLIC
EVENTS ACROSS THE COUNTRY,
INCLUDING CANADA DAY
CELEBRATIONS, NOW INVOLVE
INTENSE VISIBLE SECURITY.
THAT LEVEL HASN'T CHANGED EVEN
AFTER HIGH-PROFILE INCIDENTS
LIKE THE U-HAUL ATTACK IN
EDMONTON, AND THE THWARTED ISIS
ATTACK IN STRATHROY, ONTARIO,
AND THE MOSQUE SHOOTING IN
QUÉBEC CITY.
>> Prime Minister Justin
Trudeau: OUR THOUGHTS ARE
OBVIOUSLY WITH THOSE AFFECTED BY
THIS INCIDENT.
WE'RE STILL GATHERING
INFORMATION AND AS SOON AS WE
CAN WE'LL SHARE MORE INFORMATION
WITH CANADIANS.
>> Reporter: THE PRIME MINISTER
AND NATIONAL SECURITY AGENCIES
ARE MONITORING THE SITUATION AND
COOPERATING WITH TORONTO POLICE
AS IT LEADS THIS INVESTIGATION.
THE RCMP WILL ONLY TAKE OVER THE
CASE IF IT IS A NATIONAL
SECURITY INCIDENT.
>> WE ARE ALL UNSETTLED AND VERY
DISTURBED BY A SITUATION LIKE
THIS.
I THINK THAT IT'S IMPOSSIBLE NOT
TO BE.
IT'S FRIGHTENING.
>> Reporter: TOMORROW'S G7
NATIONAL SECURITY AND PUBLIC
SAFETY MEETINGS WILL GO AHEAD AS
PLANNED AND WHILE THIS INCIDENT
IS NOT A NATIONAL SECURITY
INVESTIGATION, IT CERTAINLY WILL
BE DISCUSSED AMONG THESE ALLIES.
KATIE SIMPSON, CBC NEWS,
TORONTO.
>> Rosemary: THE PRIME
MINISTER RELEASED A STATEMENT IN
RESPONSE TO THE ATTACK THAT
HAPPENED THIS AFTERNOON.
AND IT SAYS IN PART...
HE ADDS, OF COURSE, THAT THEY
ARE AND THEY CONTINUE TO WATCH
THE SITUATION CLOSELY.
ADRIENNE IS IN LONDON AND
HAPPENS TO BE THERE ON ANOTHER
ASSIGNMENT FOR US TONIGHT.
BUT YOU ARE, ADRIENNE, ON
WESTMINSTER BRIDGE AND WE SAW A
VIOLENT ATTACK THERE LAST MARCH?
>> Adrienne: INDEED.
ROSIE, LONDON HAD TO LEARN VERY
QUICKLY HOW TO DEAL WITH THESE
SORT OF VEHICLE ATTACKS.
LAST YEAR IN THREE SEPARATE
VEHICLE ATTACKS A DOZEN PEOPLE
WERE KILLED INCLUDING A CANADIAN
AND SO WE'LL HAVE A LOOK AT HOW
THE UNITED KINGDOM IS TRYING TO
MITIGATE THAT THREAT IN A
MOMENT, BUT, FIRST, LET'S HAVE A
LOOK AT HOW AND SOMETIMES WHY
VEHICLES ARE BEING USED AS
WEAPONS.
QUÉBEC, 2014, MARTIN
COUTURE-ROULEAU SAT IN A PARKING
LOT FOR TWO HOURS BEFORE
STEPPING ON THE GAS AND RAMMING
HIS VEHICLE INTO TWO CANADIAN
SOLDIERS.
WARRANT OFFICER PATRICE VINCENT
WAS KILLED AND ANOTHER PERSON
WAS INJURED.
>> IT'S A DELIBERATE ACT.
WITH REGARDS TO HOW FAR IT WAS
PLANNED IT'S REALLY HARD TO SAY.
>> Reporter: MARTIN
COUTURE-ROULEAU WAS STOPPED AND
KILLED A SHORT TIME LATER.
VEHICLES HAVE BEEN USED FOR
DECADES TO KILL PEOPLE BUT IT
WAS IN 2010 WHEN TERROR GROUPS
STARTED INSTRUCTING EXTREMISTS
ON HOW TO USE RENTAL VANS AND
TRUCKS.
IT SEEMED TO BE EASY TO OBTAIN.
>> VERY EASY TO OBTAIN.
YOU CAN STEAL A DRIVER'S LICENSE
IF YOU HAD TO AND STILL GET ONE
OF THESE RENTAL VEHICLES SO
THEY'RE UBIQUITOUS.
IT'S A WHITE VEHICLE, VERY HARD,
BLENDS INTO EVERYDAY SOCIETY.
AND IT CAUSES GREAT, GREAT
DAMAGE.
AND NOT ONLY THAT IF YOUR THE
DRIVER YOU'RE SOMEWHAT
PROTECTED.
>> Adrienne: EVEN AS POLICE
AROUND THE WORLD ARE MORE AWARE
OF THE THREATS, THE ATTACKS ARE
GETTING DEADLY.
IN JULY 2016, 86 PEOPLE WERE
KILLED WHILE CELEBRATING
BASTILLE DAY IN FRANCE WHEN A
MAN IN A RENTAL TRUCK PLOWED
THROUGH A PROMENADE.
MORE THAN A DOZEN PEOPLE DIED
WHEN A MAN IN A RENTED VAN
RAMMED INTO A GROUP OF
PEDESTRIANS ON A STREET IN
BARCELONA.
IS IT LONDON WAS ATTACKED FLY
TIMES ON THE LONDON BRIDGE AND
HERE ON WESTMINSTER BRIDGE.
SO AFTER THE WESTMINSTER BRIDGE
ATTACK HERE THERE WAS PANIC IN
THE CITY AS YOU CAN IMAGINE AND
THERE WAS AN EFFORT BY SCOTLAND
YARD TO LOOK AT SOME 33 BRIDGES
IN LONDON AND TO PUT BARRIERS UP
ON ALL OF THEM.
A DECISION WAS MADE TO NOT PUT
IT ON THE LONDON BRIDGE AND THAT
WAS 24 HOURS BEFORE THE ATTACK
ON THE LONDON BRIDGE.
SO THERE'S PHYSICAL PROTECTIONS
THEY'RE UNDERTAKING.
RENTAL CAR COMPANIES, ROSIE,
HAVE SAID WHAT CAN WE DO?
SO THEY'RE LOOKING FOR A WAY TO
DO REAL-TIME CHECKS OF CLIENTS
AGAINST NATIONAL TERROR
DATABASES TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY
FIND OUT THAT THEY'RE NOT
RENTING A ELECTRONIC TO SOMEONE
ON A WATCH LIST.
POLICE HAVE NOW BEEN TOLD THAT
THEY CAN SHOOT AT MOVING
VEHICLES.
THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT YOU
COULD DO HERE BUT THE DECISION
HAS BEEN MADE THAT IT'S TOO
IMPORTANT THAT IF IT'S STILL
GOING THERE'S CHANCES THAT IT'S
PART OF AN ATTACK AND YOU NEED
TO STOP IT.
>> Rosemary: THOSE ARE EXTREME
AND PREVENTATIVE MEASURES.
AND CANADA IS TRYING TO PREVENT
THIS.
WHAT ARE AUTHORITIES DOING HERE?
>> Reporter: YOU ARE SEEING IT
MORE OFTEN.
AND YOU ARE SEEING DUMP TRUCKS
ACROSSED ACROSS PEDESTRIAN
STREETS WHEN THERE'S FESTIVALS
UNDERWAY.
AT THE START OF BASEBALL SEASON
IN TORONTO A LARGE PART OF THE
DOWNTOWN CORA ROUND THE STADIUM
WERE BLOCKED OFF TO CARS.
THAT WAS NEW BUT THIS IS PART OF
THAT AWARENESS THAT POLICE HAVE
AND THAT THESE ARE JUST, YOU
KNOW, FOR ATTACKERS THESE ARE
CRIMES OF OPPORTUNITY AND THESE
VEHICLES ARE SO EASILY OBTAINED
AND IT'S SO LOW TECH, THEY BLEND
IN SO EASILY AND ALL OF THAT IS
SO FRUSTRATING FOR POLICE.
IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE, ROSIE,
THAT WE ARE HEARING TONIGHT FROM
THE COMPANY THAT RENTED THAT
VEHICLE TODAY AND THAT COMPANY'S
NAME IS RYDER.
IT ISSUED A STATEMENT AND SAYING
IN PART, "WE
ARE SADDENED BY THIS TRAGIC
EVENT AND OUR DEEPEST SYMPATHIES
GO OUT TO THOSE IMPACTED.
WE TAKE THE SAFETY AND SECURITY
OF OUR ENTIRE FLEET VERY
SERIOUSLY AND WE ARE COOPERATING
FULLY WITH AUTHORITIES."
WE HAVE MUCH MORE FOR YOU ON
THIS DEVELOPING STORY TONIGHT.
>> Andrew: 10 FAMILIES ARE
GRIEVING, 15 MORE WORRIED ABOUT
THEIR INJURED LOVED ONES.
WE'LL TELL YOU WHAT WE KNOW
ABOUT THE PEOPLE BEHIND THOSE
NUMBERS.
>> Rosemary: WE HAVE MORE ON
THE POLICE OFFICER WHO TOOK DOWN
THE ALLEGED ATTACKER IN A
REMARKABLE ACT OF BRAVERY.
>> Ian: TORONTO IS A CITY WHERE
MANY ARE MOURNING BUT ALSO A
CITY WHERE TENS OF THOUSANDS OF
PEOPLE HAVE GATHERED TONIGHT FOR
A HOCKEY PLAYOFF GAME.
WE'LL TAKE YOU THROUGH TO THE
SECURITY MEASURES AND THE MOOD.
THIS IS "THE NATIONAL."
(*)
>> IT'S VERY CLEAR TO SAY THAT
THE ACTIONS LOOKED DISTRIBUTE.
>> Andrew: THE LATEST FROM
POLICE AS THEY INVESTIGATE
TODAY'S DEADLY VAN ATTACK IN
NORTH TORONTO THAT LEFT 10
PEOPLE DEAD.
WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO FIGURE
OUT IS MOTIVE -- WHAT THE DRIVER
WAS THINKING.
THE SUSPECT, 25-YEAR-OLD ALEK
MINASSIAN, BUT BEFORE TODAY HE
WASN'T ON POLICE RADAR AND SO
FAR THE OFFICIALS SAY THAT
THERE'S NO SIGN THAT HE'S
CONNECTED TO ANY TERRORIST
ORGINISATION.
TONIGHT, OF COURSE, THERE ARE
MANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE
SUSPECT.
BUT WHAT LIKELY MATTERS MOST TO
THE INJURED VICTIMS AND THEIR
FAMILIES RIGHT NOW IS RECOVERY.
10 OF THEM WERE TRANSPORTED TO
TORONTO'S SUNNYBROOK HOSPITAL
NOT TOO FAR FROM THE SCENE OF
THE ATTACK.
THAT'S WHERE CBC'S NATALIE
KALATA
IS STANDING BY.
NATALIE, YOU HAVE BEEN THERE FOR
A FEW HOURS NOW.
DESCRIBE THE SCENE TO US, WHAT
HAS BEEN HAPPENING THERE?
>> Reporter: WELL, IT'S NOT
SURPRISING WHEN YOU'RE OUTSIDE
OF A HOSPITAL TO SEE FAMILY
MEMBERS RUNNING INTO THE E.R.
BUT THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE BEEN
SEEING FOR A LAST WHILE AS WE
KNOW THAT PEOPLE INSIDE, THE
HOSPITAL OFFICIALS AS WELL AS
POLICE, ARE TRYING TO TRACK DOWN
THE FAMILY MEMBERS OF THOSE
INSIDE WHO ARE BEING TREATED.
WE KNOW THAT INSIDE WAS AN
EMOTIONAL PLACEMENT WE SPOKE TO
ONE MAN WHO SAID THAT HE KNEW AT
ONE POINT THAT THERE WERE
INDIVIDUALS WHO DID NOT MAKE IT,
WHO HAD DIED, THAT HAVE PASSED
AWAY, THAT WERE IN THE E.R.
HERE'S WHAT HE HAD TO SAY, TAKE
A LISTEN...
>> YOU COULD TELL THAT THEY
PULLED THE CURTAINS AROUND HER
AFTER THE WHOLE TEAM WAS IN
THERE WORKING ON HER.
BUT IT WAS VERY, VERY SAD.
SO MUCH GOING ON.
AND THEY WERE ALL -- THE DOCTORS
AND THE INTERNS WERE ALL SO COOL
ABOUT IT WAS WHAT WAS AMAZING.
>> Reporter: AND OF COURSE,
THE PEOPLE THAT WE SPOKE TO SAID
THEY ARE TRYING THEIR BEST TO
COMMUNICATE WITH THOSE
INDIVIDUALS INSIDE WHO WERE
VICTIMS OF THIS ATTACK WHO CAN
COMMUNICATE AND TRYING, OF
COURSE, TO GET AS MUCH
INFORMATION AS THEY CAN AS THEY
CONTINUE IN THEIR INVESTIGATION.
WE KNOW THAT THERE IS A LOT TO
GO THROUGH.
WE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY AS WELL
TO SPEAK TO AN ACTING
SUPERVISING INDIVIDUAL WHO WORKS
WITH THE PARAMEDICS AND THE
E.M.S. SERVICES, TO TALK A
LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT HE SAW ON
THE SCENE COMING OUT OF THE
HOSPITAL HERE AFTER HE HAD BEEN
HERE.
HERE'S WHAT HE HAD TO SAY...
>> YONGE AND FINCH AND SHEPPARD,
PURE CARNAGE.
DEBRIS EVERYWHERE AND THIS
AREA -- YOU CAN'T EVEN DESCRIBE
IT -- IT'S JUST VICTIMS
EVERYWHERE.
>> Reporter: NOW EARLIER IN
THE EVENING WE WERE TOLD OF THE
10 PEOPLE BROUGHT HERE TO
HOSPITAL TWO ARRIVED WITH WHAT
THEY CALLED VITAL SIGNS ABSENT
AND WERE PRONOUNCED DEAD.
FIVE WERE AT THE TIME REPORTED
IN CRITICAL INJURY, CRITICAL
CONDITION.
THREE WITH SERIOUS -- IN SERIOUS
CONDITION, BUT THAT, OF COURSE,
IS EXPECTED TO EVOLVE AS THE
NIGHT PROGRESSES.
ANDREW?
>> Andrew: ALL RIGHT, NATALIE
KALATA OUTSIDE OF TORONTO'S
SUNNYBROOK HOSPITAL, THANK YOU
VERY MUCH.
>>> LET'S TURN BACK TO IAN
BECAUSE AS IS OFTEN THE CASE
WHEN WE TALK ABOUT SURVIVORS OF
A VIOLENT ATTACK, THE HOURS AND
THE DAYS TO COME CAN BE A
DIFFICULT TIME, SOMETHING, IAN,
YOU COULD SAY IS TRUE FOR THE
WHOLE CITY?
>> Ian: THAT'S RIGHT, ANDREW.
THE CITY IS CERTAINLY PULLING
TOGETHER TONIGHT.
TAKE A LOOK AT THIS SHOT OF THE
TORONTO SKYLINE, THE C.N. TOWER
IS DARK TONIGHT IN THE WAKE OF
THE ATTACK.
FROM A DISTANCE TORONTO LOOKS
JUST THE SAME AS ALWAYS.
IT FELT THAT WAY TAKING THE
SUBWAY NORTHWARD TO THIS SCENE
BUT IF YOU LOOK CLOSELY,
ESPECIALLY AROUND HERE, A LOT
HAS CHANGED.
THAT REPUTATION OF A SAFE AND
WELCOMING PLACE IS IN DOUBT FOR
MANY TONIGHT.
THE ATTACK SHOCKING SO MANY
PEOPLE.
AND AS DAVID COMMON LEARNED IT'S
SHATTERING THE ILLUSION HELD BY
MANY RESIDENTS THAT SUCH A THING
COULD NEVER HAPPEN HERE.
* O CANADA
>> Reporter: WITH AN AIR OF
EXCITEMENT TORONTO'S DOWNTOWN
WOULD SEEM A WORLD AWAY, BUT THE
SECURITY CLAMPDOWN TONIGHT
CLEARLY ILLUSTRATES THE COUNTER
MEASURES TO A THREAT.
LAYERS OF TRUCKS BLOCKING
VEHICLES FROM GETTING NEAR
CROWDS OF LEAF FANS.
AND A MUCH LARGER-THAN-USUAL
POLICE PRESENCE.
>> I FEEL A LOT SAFER THAN I
USUALLY WOULD AND BECAUSE IT'S
THE LEAFS, SO I'M GOOD.
I'M COMING HERE AND I'M ENJOYING
MYSELF.
>> WE'RE NOT GOING TO LET IT
TAKE OVER THE DAY SO WE'LL MAKE
SURE THAT WE GO OUT AND HAVE
FUN.
BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY
THAT'S WHAT THE INDIVIDUAL MAY
HAVE WANTED TO TAKE AWAY FROM US
IS THAT SENSE OF FREEDOM.
BUT WE'RE NOT GOING TO LET IT
TAKE OVER, SO WE'RE GOING TO
ENJOY THE DAY OVER HERE.
>> WORDS CAN'T DESCRIBE HOW
AWFUL THIS TRAGIC EVENT IS, BUT
IF YOU LOOK AROUND THIS IS
WHAT BRINGS EVERYONE TOGETHER.
SO AS ONE WE'RE GOING TO UNITE
AND, LIKE I SAID, WE'LL CONTINUE
TO BE STRONG.
>> Reporter: TONIGHT SECURITY
TIGHTENING IS ACTUALLY ROUND TWO
BECAUSE LESS THAN A MONTH AGO
TORONTO POLICE ANNOUNCED THAT
THEY WERE GOING TO BE CLAMPING
DOWN ON SECURITY AROUND BIG
EVENTS.
EVEN BLOCKING PEOPLE FROM
PARKING UNDERGROUND UNLESS THEY
COULD PROVE THEY WERE RESIDENTS.
SECURITY EXPERTS POINTED TO THE
THREAT OF A VEHICLE BEING USED
AS A WEAPON.
THE MAYOR BACK THEN ALLUDED TO
IT TOO.
>> IT'S 2018 AND WE HAVE SEEN
INCIDENTS HAPPEN, UNFORTUNATELY,
OUTSIDE OF SPORTS VENUES AND
CONCERT VENUES AND SO ON AND
AROUND THE WORLD THAT WOULD HAVE
CAUSED US AS WE DID -- WE,
MEANING THE POLICE AND THE
SECURITY OFFICIALS AND EVERYBODY
ELSE -- TO REVIEW THE SECURITY.
>> LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, PLEASE
RISE IF YOU'RE ABLE TO AND
REMOVE YOUR HATS.
>> Reporter: THE LEAFS-BRUINS
GAME BEGAN TONIGHT IN SILENCE.
IN A BIG CITY AN OPPORTUNITY TO
REMEMBER THOSE KILLED AND A
REMINDER OF THE DANGER THAT
LURKS.
>> Ian: AND DAVID IS OUTSIDE OF
TORONTO CITY HALL TONIGHT, A
>> Ian: AND DAVID IS OUTSIDE OF
TORONTO CITY HALL TONIGHT, A
POPULAR PLACE FOR TOURISTS BUT
LOCAL RESIDENTS TOO.
THIS ATTACK HAS CLEARLY RATTLED
SOME NERVES.
SO WHAT ARE PEOPLE DOING TO
COUNTERACT THAT UNEASINESS?
>> Reporter: IAN, YOU SEE THAT
THE LANDMARK TORONTO SIGN BEHIND
ME IS DIMMED, BUT ON PORCHES THE
LIGHTS ARE, IN FACT, VERY MUCH
ON, PARTICULARLY IN THAT YONGE
AND FINCH AND YONGE AND SHEPPARD
AREA -- THE AREA OF THIS CITY,
THE UPDOWN, DOWNTOWN WHERE ALL
OF THIS TOOK PLACE.
SO MANY ARE UNABLE TO GET HOME
BECAUSE TRAFFIC AND TRANSIT WERE
SO COMPLICATED THIS EVENING AND
SOME AREAS WERE SHUTDOWN.
SO THOSE PORCH LIGHTS ARE ON
INDICATING TO PEOPLE THAT
THSO MANY ARE UNABLE TO GET HOME
BECAUSE TRAFFIC AND TRANSIT WERE
SO COMPLICATED THIS EVENING AND
SOME AREAS WERE SHUTDOWN.
SO THOSE PORCH LIGHTS ARE ON
INDICATING TO PEOPLE THAT
THEY'RE WELCOME TO COME INTO
THAT HOUSE AND TO STAY THERE IF
NECESSARY.
PEOPLE ARE OPENING UP THEIR
.
>> Ian: STILL AHEAD ON "THE
NATIONAL," FROM THE FIRST 911
CALLS TO THE ARRESTS, IT WAS
JUST 26 MINUTES, WE'LL TAKE YOU
THROUGH THE DRAMATIC TIMELINE
AND THE TAKEDOWN.
>> Rosemary: PLUS, VOICES OF
SHOCK AND GRIEF, WE'LL HEAR
EYEWITNESS STORIES FROM THE
SCENE, BUT, FIRST, TAKE A LOOK
AT THIS...
>>> A SHOW OF SUPPORT AT YONGE
AND FINCH.
COMMUNITY MEMBERS SET UP A
MEMORIAL WHERE PEOPLE CAN SHARE
MESSAGES OF SADNESS AND
CONDOLENCE ON POSTER BOARDS.
JUST SOME OF THE MESSAGES,
PRAYING FOR THE BLOCK.
LOVE TRUMPS OVER ALL.
(*)
>> Rosemary: JUST SOME OF THE
MOMENTS OF GRIEF THIS AFTERNOON
IN TORONTO, THE AFTERMATH OF AN
ATTACK THAT HAPPENED SO FAST BUT
MADE TIME STAND STILL FOR THE
PEOPLE WHO WERE THERE.
[SIRENS]
IT ALL STARTED AROUND 1:30 THIS
AFTERNOON --
>> WHICH WAY WAS HE GOING?
>> Rosemary: POLICE STARTED
GETTING CALLS
ABOUT A VAN THAT HAD DRIVEN UP
ON A SIDEWALK FAST, MOWING DOWN
EVERYTHING IN ITS PATH.
>> JUST PEOPLE COMING OUT FROM
THE B.M.O. BANK AND THEY'RE
YELLING TO THE PEDESTRIANS
SAYING WATCH OUT, WATCH OUT!
MOVE OUT OF THE WAY BECAUSE THE
GUY IS STORMING DOWN YONGE
STREET ON THE SIDEWALK.
>> I WAS GOING BY THE SITE ON
THE THIRD LANE.
THE GUY IS COMING OUT FROM THE
SECOND AND ACCELERATING FAST AND
CUTTING ME OVER AND GOING
TOWARDS THIS AREA THERE.
AND HITTING HIM AND THE GUY FLEW
UP.
AND FLEW UP FROM UP IN THE SKY
AND THE GUY JUST LITERALLY FLEW
ALL THE WAY TOWARDS THAT
SIDEWALK.
>> Rosemary: HERE'S WHERE IT
HAPPENED -- YONGE AND FINCH AS
IT'S CALLED IN THE NORTH END
AREA OF TORONTO CALLED NORTH
YORK.
THE CAR MOUNTED THE SIDEWALK
HERE AND IT DROVE SOUTH AT WHAT
WITNESSES DESCRIBE AS ABOUT
60-70 KILOMETRES AN HOUR.
THEY SAW HIM HIT SO MANY PEOPLE
AND IT ALL HAPPENED SO FAST.
>> FIRST THING I SAW IT WAS LIKE
ONE COP CAR AND THEY WERE --
THEY WERE DOING C.P.R. ON
SOMEBODY AND THERE WAS A GROUP
SURROUNDED AND DOWN THE STREET
MORE COP CARS CAME IN AND FIRE
TRUCKS AND AMBULANCES AND
BUNCHED UP SO FAST.
>> I SAW PEOPLE LAYING AND BEING
C.P.R.ED AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
AND THEN A SHORT TIME LATER THEY
WERE PUTTING BLANKETS OVER THEM.
>> Rosemary: THE DRIVER GOT
AWAY BUT HE DIDN'T GET FAR.
LESS THAN HALF AN HOUR LATER AT
POYNTZ AVENUE ANOTHER TENSE
SCENE.
THE DRIVER OUT OF A WHITE RYDER
VAN WAVED WHAT APPEARED TO BE A
GUN AT THE OFFICER WHO CHASED
HIM.
CLEARLY THE COP KNEW THAT IT
WASN'T A WEAPON.
AND THE DRIVER WAS TAKEN INTO
CUSTODY.
>> WE OBVIOUSLY DON'T HAVE A LOT
OF DETAIL THAT WE CAN PROVIDE AS
OF YET BUT WE KNOW THAT THERE
WERE CASUALTIES.
>> Rosemary: WITNESSES
REPORTED SEEING BODIES COVERED
WITH TARPS AND IT WAS CLEAR THAT
PEOPLE WERE DEAD BUT IT WOULD BE
TWO HOURS BEFORE OFFICIALS WOULD
CONFIRM THE AWFUL TOLL.
>> WE CAN CONFIRM FOR YOU
TONIGHT, RIGHT NOW, THAT NINE
PEOPLE ARE DEAD.
16 DEAD OR INJURED.
>> Rosemary: BY THIS EVENING
THE DEATH TOLL HAD RISEN TO 10.
THE SUSPECT, 25-YEAR-OLD ALEK
MINASSIAN, A STUDENT AT A
TORONTO-AREA COLLEGE.
AROUND 7:00 THIS EVENING CBC
NEWS CONFIRMED THAT THERE WAS NO
TERROR LINK TO THE ATTACK.
NOW ACROSS SOCIAL MEDIA THERE'S
BEEN ALL SORTS OF PRAISE FOR THE
OFFICER WHO ARRESTED THE ATTACK
SUSPECT, THE TAKEDOWN WAS DONE
WITHOUT INCIDENT.
NOT A SHOT FIRED.
IT WAS ALL OVER IN LESS THAN A
MINUTE.
THE CBC'S VIK ADHOPIA HAS THE
LOOK AT THE SPECIAL TRAINING
THAT OFFICERS RECEIVE TO KEEP
DANGEROUS ARRESTS FROM GETTING
OUT OF HAND.
>> [SIRENS]
>> Reporter: IT'S A TENSE
MOMENT, AN OFFICER ARRIVES ON
THE SCENE ALONE TO FACE A
SUSPECT WHO APPEARS ARMED AND
DEFIANT.
IGNORING THE ORDER TO SURRENDER.
>> GET DOWN!
NO, GET DOWN.
GET DOWN.
>> I HAVE A GUN IN MY POCKET.
>> I DON'T CARE.
GET DOWN.
>> I HAVE A GUN IN MY POCKET.
>> GET DOWN, GET DOWN OR YOU'LL
GET SHOT.
>> IN [indiscernible] IN THE
HEAD.
>> Reporter: STILL IGNORING
THE WARNINGS, MINASSIAN
MOVES IN ON THE OFFICER WHO
STAYS COOL, REALIZING THAT
THERE'S NO GUN.
AND THE SUSPECT SURRENDERS.
IT'S OVER IN LESS THAN 30
SECONDS WITH NO SHOTS FIRED AND
NO MORE CASUALTIES.
AS BYSTANDERS RECORD THE WHOLE
THING.
>> THE MAN WAS NOT COOPERATING,
HE KEPT ON TAKING STEPS FORWARD
AND IT'S AT THAT POINT THAT THE
OFFICER I BELIEVE REALIZED THAT
THAT WAS NOT A GUN IN HIS HAND.
SO HE PUT AWAY HIS GUN AND HE
TOOK OUT HIS BATON AND HE WENT
FORWARD AND THE MAN SAW THAT THE
COP WILL NOT SHOOT HIM SO HE
GAVE UP RIGHT THERE AND THEN.
>> [indiscernible]
>> Reporter: POLICE TAKEDOWNS
DON'T ALWAYS END SO PEACEFULLY.
>> DROP THE KNIFE!
>> Reporter: AFTER A SERIES OF
HIGH-PROFILE SHOOTINGS, TORONTO
POLICE USE OF FORCE FACED
SCRUTINY AND CALLED TO
CHANGE THEIR TACTICS BY
DE-ESCALATING STANDOFFS.
>> STAY DOWN!
DROP THE KNIFE!
DROP THE KNIFE!
STAY DOWN.
>> STOP.
>> Reporter: NEW REGULAR
TRAINING STRESSES NEGOTIATION TO
AVOID USING LETHAL FORCE WHEN
POSSIBLE.
THIS RETIRED OFFICER SAYS THAT
THE SOLO ARREST OF MINASSIAN WAS
TEXTBOOK PERFECT.
>> HE ACTED SMARTLY, TACTICALLY
AND COURAGEOUSLY.
>> Reporter: A STANDOFF
DEESCALATED AND A SUSPECT
ARRESTED TO FACE THE
CONSEQUENCES.
VIK ADHOPIA, CBC NEWS, TORONTO.
>> Rosemary: FOR MORE ON NEXT
STEPS FOR INVESTIGATORS I'M
JOINED BY PHIL GURSKI IN
OTTAWA, THE PRESIDENT AND
C.E.O. OF BOREALIS AND A FORMER
C.S.I.S. ANALYST.
PHIL, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.
AND LET'S START WITH THE LAST
PART THAT WE SAW THERE.
WERE YOU SURPRISED AT POLICE
RESPONSE AND HOW QUICKLY THAT
WAS CONTAINED?
>> I THINK THAT HATS OFF, KUDOS
TO THE OFFICER.
HE CLEARLY RECEIVED VERY GOOD
TRAINING.
HE FOLLOWED THAT TRAINING TO THE
NTH DEGREE AND HE NEUTRALIZED A
GUY WHO CARRIED OUT A HEINOUS
ATTACK.
NOW THE GUY IS ALIVE AND NOT
DEAD WHICH MEANS THAT HE CAN
QUESTION HIM.
HE CAN HOPEFULLY FIND OUT WHAT
HE DID AND WHY HE DID IT,
SO I THINK THAT THIS IS A
TREMENDOUS KUDOS TO TORONTO
POLICE SERVICES, AND THE
TRAINING THEY GIVE THEIR
OFFICERS AND THIS PARTICULAR
OFFICER WHO DID WHAT HE WAS
TRAINED TO DO.
>> Rosemary: OKAY.
AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT
POLICE WILL WANT TO KNOW IS
OBVIOUSLY MOTIVE HERE THOUGH IT
APPEARS FROM GOVERNMENT SOURCES
AND ELSEWHERE THAT THERE'S NO
NATIONAL SECURITY THREAT.
SO WHERE DOES THE INVESTIGATION
GO FROM HERE IF THAT IS THE
CASE?
>> YOU KNOW, I LISTENED TO MARK
SAUNDERS AND I LISTENED TO THE
MINISTER TALK ABOUT THIS.
WHAT THEY'RE REALLY SAYING,
ROSEMARY, AS OF NOW THERE'S NO
INFORMATION AND NO INTELLIGENCE
TO SUGGEST A NATIONAL SECURITY
LINK.
BUT WE'RE, WHAT, SEVEN, EIGHT
HOURS AFTER THIS SO THERE'S A
LOT TO BE LEARNED.
SO WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO IS
BASICALLY ASK HIM -- MAYBE HE'S
COOPERATING AND MAYBE HE'S NOT
BUT MAYBE HE'LL TELL THEM WHY HE
DID WHAT HE DID.
AND THEY'LL PROBABLY GET A
WARRANT TO LOOK AT HIS CELL
PHONE AND TO LOOK AT HIS EMAIL
AND A WARRANT TO SEARCH HIS
APARTMENT OR HOUSE AND THEY'LL
TALK TO FAMILY AND FRIENDS AND
TALK TO WORK MATES.
THEY WILL SEE IF THERE WAS
ANYTHING AMISS, WAS THIS GUY
GOING DOWN A CERTAIN PATHWAY AND
WAS ANYTHING NOTICED.
SO IT'S CONCENTRIC CIRCLES, IF
YOU WILL AND START WITH THE
SUSPECT AND GO FROM THERE AND
SEE WHAT YOU CAN FIND OUT.
>> Rosemary: YOU KNOW OFF THE
TOP WE TALKED ABOUT
THINGS THAT LONDON HAS DONE TO
PREVENT THESE KINDS OF ATTACKS
BECAUSE THEY'RE ALL TOO COMMON
IN THAT CITY.
THINGS LIKE
EVEN PRESCREENING PEOPLE WHEN
THEY RENT VANS.
IS THERE A WAY TO PREVENT AN
INCIDENT LIKE THIS, A LONE
ATTACKER IN A RENTED VEHICLE?
>> I DON'T THINK SO, ROSEMARY.
UNLESS HE'S ALREADY ON YOUR
RADAR OR UNDER SURVEILLANCE OR
UNDER INVESTIGATION FOR ANOTHER
PURPOSE IT'S REALLY, REALLY
HARD.
AND YOU TALK, WELL, YEAH, RENTAL
PLACES SHOULD
DO BACKGROUND CHECKS.
HOW MANY VEHICLES ARE RENTED IN
TORONTO ON A GIVEN DAY, HOW CAN
YOU DO THAT IN REAL TIME?
AND YOU CAN PUT IT OUTSIDE
A.C.C. OR OUTSIDE OF
PARLIAMENT OR QUEEN'S PARK BUT
YOU CAN'T PUT BOULDERS UP AND
DOWN
YONGE STREET.
SO WE HAVE TO BE REALISTIC.
AND, SURE, LOCKDOWN AND SECURITY
IN THE VENUES BR YOU EXPECT A
LOT OF PEOPLE BUT WE CAN'T MAKE
THE CITY INTO A FORTRESS.
AND YOU DON'T WANT TO EVEN GO
DOWN THAT PATHWAY.
>> Rosemary: SO THE ONLY WAY
THEN IS, WHAT, SORT OF WATCH FOR
AND TO MONITOR CHATTER AND TRY
TO GET AHEAD OF THESE PEOPLE?
EVEN ONLINE IT'S DIFFICULT TO
MONITOR SOMEONE 24/7.
>> YOU CAN'T.
WE LEARNED THAT WITH STRATHROY
WITH AARON DRIVER.
HE WAS ON A PEACE FILE BUT HE
WAS NOT BEING MONITORED BECAUSE
THEY HAD OTHER PRIORITIES AT THE
TIME.
PEOPLE DON'T REALIZE
HOW MUCH TIME AND EFFORT IT
TAKES TO MONITOR SOMEONE.
IF YOU ARE WATCHING THEM YOU
MIGHT GET LUCKY BUT THE VAST
MAJORITY AND NOT WATCHED 24/7,
NOR SHOULD THEY BE IN A
DEMOCRATIC SOCIETY LIKE CANADA.
>> Rosemary: THANK YOU FOR
YOUR PERSPECTIVE, I APPRECIATE
IT, SIR.
FOR THOSE WHO SAW WHAT HAPPENED
IT WILL STAY WITH THEM FOR LIFE.
AMIR BAHMEYEH WAS HEADING TO
SCHOOL WHEN
HE SAW THE ATTACK AND WE HEARD A
BIT FROM HIM EARLIER IN THE SHOW
AND HERE IS A BIT MORE WHAT HE
HAD TO SAY ABOUT IT...
JUST CAME OUT FROM THE SUBWAY
STATION AND I SAW LIKE THE CRAZY
VAN, LIKE THE RENTAL VAN HITTING
THE PEOPLE.
ONE AFTER ONE.
AND THERE WAS LIKE -- I SAW
THE OLD MAN GOING UP AND GOING
DOWN.
THAT'S ALL.
AND THE PEOPLE LIKE SCREAMING
AND GOING AROUND.
POLICE CAME TO HELP THE PEOPLE.
AND THEN I SAW THAT HE DROVE
REALLY FAST AND LIKE CRAZY
PEOPLE.
AND I SAW -- I DON'T KNOW HOW
CAN I SAY IT -- THE CAR SEAT
WITH THE BABY GOING UP LIKE
THAT.
I DON'T KNOW IF THE BABY -- YOU
KNOW, HOPEFULLY, YEAH, HOPEFULLY
THE BABY WAS FINE.
(*)
(*)
>> Andrew: WE'LL TAKE YOU BACK
TO TORONTO AND THE SCENE OF THE
ATTACK IN A FEW MINUTES, BUT,
FIRST, HERE'S SOME OF THE OTHER
STORIES THAT WE'RE WATCHING
TONIGHT...
>>> THE SUSPECT IN YESTERDAY'S
SHOOTING RAMPAGE AT A NASHVILLE
WAFFLE HOUSE RESTAURANT IS IN
CUSTODY.
TRAVIS REINKING WAS CAPTURED
TODAY IN A WOODED AREA AFTER
BEING ON THE RUN FOR MORE THAN
30 HOURS.
HE'S ACCUSED OF OPENING FIRE
INSIDE OF THE RESTAURANT AND
KILLING FOUR PEOPLE.
THE MOTIVE FOR THE ATTACK IS
STILL UNCLEAR.
>>> ALSO TONIGHT FORMER ONTARIO
PROGRESSIVE CONSERVATIVE LEADER
PATRICK BROWN IS SUING CTV FOR
$8 MILLION.
HIS LAWYER HAS FILED A STATEMENT
OF CLAIM TODAY ACCUSING IT OF
DEFAMATION.
THEY WERE THE FIRST TO REPORT
ALLEGATIONS OF SEXUAL MISCONDUCT
AGAINST BROWN FROM TWO WOMEN.
AFTER THAT REPORT BROWN RESIGNED
AS LEADER AND WAS LATER REMOVED
FROM P.C. CAUCUS, BUT HE DENIES
ANY WRONGDOING.
(*)
>>> AND NEWS TONIGHT THAT THE
FORMER U.S. PRESIDENT GEORGE
H.W. BUSH IS IN HOSPITAL.
ACCORDING TO A FAMILY SPOKESMAN
HE WAS ADMITTED YESTERDAY JUST
ONE DAY AFTER THE FUNERAL FOR
HIS WIFE, BARBARA.
HE REPORTEDLY CONTRACTED AN
INFECTION THAT SPREAD TO HIS
BLOOD.
BUT HE IS SAID TO BE RESPONDING
TO TREATMENT.
>>> ON A DAY OF DIFFICULT NEWS
THERE WAS ONE BRIGHT SPOT --
PRINCE WILLIAM AND KATE WELCOMED
A BABY BOY TO THEIR FAMILY.
AND THAT RESULTED IN A MAD RUSH
TO THE BOOKIES TO GET IN ON THE
LATEST ROYAL NAME GAME.
MARGARET EVANS HAS THAT STORY
FROM LONDON.
>> Reporter: FOR THE ARRIVAL
OF ROYAL BABY NUMBER THREE NO
DRESS REHEARSAL NEEDED.
AS SOON AS THE NEWS BROKE THAT
THE DUCHESS OF CAMBRIDGE HAD
GONE INTO LABOUR EVERYONE IN
POSITION.
>> JUMPED OUT OF THE BED AND
AFTER HEARING THE NEWS THAT
KATIE WAS GOING TO HAVE BABY I
RAN DOWN.
I DID NOT HAVE MY BREAKFAST YET.
>> Reporter: ROYAL FANS CAMPED
OUT ON THE CURB.
GREAT CLUMPS OF PHOTOGRAPHERS
PEERED THROUGH THE LOOKING GLASS
AND ROYAL COMMENTATORS
COMMENTED.
>> WELL, THIS CHILD IS GOING TO
BE FIFTH IN LINE TO THE THRONE
SO NOT RIGHT UP THERE IN TERMS
OF PRINCE GEORGE BEING IN THE
DIRECT LINE BUT, STILL, A VERY
SENIOR MEMBER OF THE ROYAL
FAMILY.
>> Reporter: IT WASN'T LONG
BEFORE THE CEREMONIAL EASEL WENT
UP OUTSIDE OF BUCKINGHAM PALACE
ANNOUNCING THE BIRTH OF A BABY
BOY.
HIS BIG BROTHER AND SISTER
ARRIVING FOR INTRODUCTIONS AT
ST. MARY'S HOSPITAL IN CENTRAL
LONDON WITH THEIR FATHER, PRINCE
WILLIAM, SOON AFTER.
FOR THOSE WHO MIGHT HAVE MISSED
IT THERE WERE OTHER LESS FORMAL
ANNOUNCEMENTS.
>> MY MOM JUST SENT ME A TEXT
MESSAGE AND I THINK THAT SHE HAD
A BABY BOY.
BUT MY MOM IS NOT VERY GOOD AT
TEXTS.
>> Reporter: BEFORE YOU KNEW
IT THOUGH CONFIRMATION WAS AT
HAND.
PROUD PARENTS EMERGING THROUGH
THOSE MIRRORED DOORS WITH THEIR
BABY FOR HIS FIRST CAMEO.
STILL UNNAMED.
ODDS ON FAVOURITE WITH THE
BOOKIES -- ARTHUR.
MARGARET EVANS, CBC NEWS,
LONDON.
>> Andrew: WE'RE GOING TO TAKE
A SHORT BREAK.
WHEN WE COME BACK MORE SPECIAL
COVERAGE OF THE ATTACK IN
TORONTO AHEAD ON "THE NATIONAL."
(*)
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was never going to be.
>> You have to always fight
for your family -
whatever is left.
>> Here was your home.
There is no more time.
* [ dramatic ]
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I want to tell you something
about my podcast,
Alone: A Love Story.
When I first started writing it
five years ago,
it wasn't a diary.
It was a cautionary tale.
A call to arms.
We've all been disappointed,
made mistakes, tried to forgive,
and we've all believed in love,
clung to hope.
More of all that in season two
of Alone: A Love Story.
Stick with me.
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>> Announcer: CBC TV app
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Premier Kathleen Wynne: THIS IS
A TRAGIC, TRAGIC SITUATION AND
OUR FIRST THOUGHTS ARE WITH THE
VICTIMS AND THEIR FAMILIES.
>> Ian: TORONTO, A CITY IN
MOURNING.
10 PEOPLE DEAD AND 15 MORE IN
HOSPITAL AFTER A VAN PLOWED INTO
PEDESTRIANS ON A SIDEWALK IN THE
CITY'S NORTH END.
THE SUSPECT, 25-YEAR-OLD ALEK
MINASSIAN.
HE IS IN CUSTODY AFTER BEING
ARRESTED AT THE SCENE.
NO WORD ON POLICE ON THE
POTENTIAL MOTIVE, BUT OFFICIALS
SAY THERE'S NO EVIDENCE TO
SUGGEST THAT HE'S CONNECTED TO
ANY TERRORIST GROUPS.
ONE OF THE INTERESTING THINGS
HERE, AND THIS IS A BIG CITY, AS
WE ALL KNOW, LEAVING THE CBC AND
COMING UP TO THE NORTHERN PART
OF TORONTO, ALONG FRONT STREET,
IT SEEMED THAT EVERYONE WAS
THINKING ABOUT THE MAPLE LEAFS
GAME.
ON THE LONG SUBWAY RIDE, I
LOOKED AROUND AND IT WAS ALMOST
AS IF PEOPLE HAD NOT SEEN THE
NEWS OR HAD NOT SUNK IN YET.
IT WAS SO DIFFERENT FROM
HUMBOLDT OR PARKLAND WHERE
EVERYWHERE YOU LOOKED YOU
REALISED PEOPLE WERE MOURNING.
AND THEN YOU GET HERE.
THROUGHOUT OUR TIME HERE, PEOPLE
ARE WALKING BY, SOLEMNLY.
SOME PEOPLE ARE BRINGING
FLOWERS.
A BIG CITY WITH LOTS OF
DIFFERENT KIND OF REACTIONS
TONIGHT.
>> Andrew: AND YOU SAY THAT,
IAN, AND I THINK ABOUT THE DAYS
TO COME.
AND WE MAY VERY WELL SEE A CALL
OUT FOR HELP.
WE'VE SEEN AT LEAST ONE
FUNDRAISER TRYING TO RAISE $1
MILLION, TO COVER FUNERAL
EXPENSES AND TO HELP VICTIMS'
FAMILIES
AND CANADIAN BLOOD SERVICES.
WE'VE SEEN PEOPLE SAY, DO YOU
NEED DONATIONS?
THEY SAID, LOOK, OVER THE COURSE
OF THE YEAR WE GET ENOUGH
REGULAR DONATIONS SO WE HAVE
SUPPLY FOR EMERGENCY SITUATIONS
LIKE THIS, BUT IF YOU WANT IT
REACH OUT AND STILL WANT TO
HELP, THEY ALWAYS ACCEPT
DONATIONS.
>> Adrienne: AND THERE WILL BE
CALL-OUTS, TOO, FOR SOMEONE TO
DO SOMETHING, FOR POLICE TO
TIGHTEN UP THE CITY.
I WAS JUST LOOKING AT THE BRIDGE
BEHIND ME, WESTMINSTER, THAT'S
BEEN REINFORCED SO MANY TIMES
FOR SO MANY DIFFERENT TYPES OF
THREATS, INCLUDING RECENTLY
AGAINST VEHICLE ATTACKS, AND YET
ONE STREET OVER, YOU LOOK AT IT
AGAIN, AND IT'S WIDE OPEN.
IT'S SO FRUSTRATING FOR POLICE,
SO DIFFICULT TO DEAL WITH.
>> Rosemary: AFTER THE
PARLIAMENT HILL ATTACK, THEY
MADE SOME SECURITY CHANGES TO
MAKE IT MORE DIFFICULT, FOR
INSTANCE, FOR CARS TO GET ON
PARLIAMENT HILL.
EVEN TODAY, EVEN AS IT WAS
UNFOLDING AND HOURS AFTER, THERE
WERE TOURISTS AND PEOPLE
WANDERING AROUND PARLIAMENT HILL
JUST LIKE IT'S ALWAYS BEEN.
SOLACE THERE.
>> Ian: KEEP IN MIND, THIS STORY
WILL GET A LOT MORE GRIPPING AND
A LOT MORE EMOTIONAL, I THINK,
WHEN WE START HEARING THE
VICTIMS' NAMES AND HEARING THEIR
STORIES, PEOPLE THAT WERE JUST
WALKING ALONG THE STREETS
SHORTLY AFTERNOON WHEN LIVES
ENDED AND OTHER LIVES CHANGED.
THAT'S "THE NATIONAL" FOR APRIL
23.
GOOD NIGHT.
>> Rosemary: GOOD NIGHT.
>> Andrew: GOOD NIGHT.
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