these clips these are all in Australia yeah and they're all are SPCA approved
as well have you ever seen anything like this before yeah yeah
well this this is on the news I mean we see this happening all the time 60
minutes just aired something about the live exports so we're seeing it yeah
we're seeing it coming about more and more so in the media how does this stuff
make you feel when you see it sure okay yeah they make sure it's like
d-daddy like a quick death right yeah do you think though it's always like - I
totally understand different cultures right people do things differently in
different places
yeah sure
but straight out we up there with
yeah and this is all RSPCA approved this is the standard but regardless of how
the animals are treated right do you think they would prefer life or death
yeah and so that's why I like to challenge people to think a little bit
differently about an animal's life because we're animals too were just a
different species and if this were in the human context or for dogs or for
cats it would be a completely different conversation because everyone would be
against it but you said from the islands you let the animals run wild but then
you kill them right for consumption though but is it a need do we need to
consume animals to survive in today's age
sure conditioning yeah but is that is that a need though or is that just now a
conditioning you sure like if you're looking at Antarctica or something but
like you said in the beginning we're talking about right now developed
nations yeah and so do you eat animals okay which animals do you eat okay eat
them all yeah but you eat most of the cows pigs chickens fish yeah and is that
for health reasons
but then they say you know they like oh yeah and we all you know we're we're
raised in a world going back to the conditioning thing that we need to
consume these animals for specific nutrients or that we need to only
consume these whereas if you look at other countries they consume some of the
animals that we domesticate you know so it's just culturally speaking as well we
have a different perception I think it comes down to perception is the best way
to look at it on how we're raised and the things that we do but do you think
just because we're raised a certain way do you think that morally justifies
continuing to do what we do to these animals so the more we're able to have
these conversations and talk about that because would you would you yeah because
would you say what you've seen here is animal cruelty yeah and are you against
animal cruelty so have you heard about veganism before
like being vegan vegan yeah so then amazing so you've heard of it
you know about it if you're against animal cruelty you're vegan at heart
because it you know if you think about it you have love for animals you're
against this injustice you think that an animal values their life versus death
you just haven't 100% aligned your actions with your beliefs not because
you're a bad person just because we've been conditioned you grew up in a
culture that does things differently than you know mainstream factory farming
so you have a different perception on that but nowadays we have a powerful
choice to make I grew up eating a lot of animal products I used to hunt myself as
well but I used to say I loved animals and then I asked myself and I'll ask you
do you think because I asked myself if I loved animals can I still continue to
eat them and that was a simple question no because I valued an an animal's life
I wanted them to be able to live and if you're eating them you have a hamburger
there's an animal that had to die in order for you to get that hamburger and
so have you ever considered going vegan I have okay
okay Friday I do enjoy it and why comes down to reconditioning a habit educating
yourself okay cool so you can see out there so one of the so one of the
challenges for you then is just learning how to eat and cook new foods are there
any other challenges about why you are not vegan now so it's just educating and
getting good food right so I think that if that's
well the world's everything and animal agriculture is one of the leading causes
of that well you know we grow up as kids and our parents say you can't have your
dessert unless you eat your veggies you know we know vegetables are good for us
the World Health Organization classified processed meat so bacon sausage deli
meats as a schedule 1 carcinogen to humans same as cigarettes same class of
cigarettes so if we know that our bodies aren't processing animal flesh and their
secretions in a good way if we're getting a lot of inflammatory diseases
cancers this and that why are we doing it one and you said the magic word one
convenience people like things that are easy we pay for convenience taste
culture and we like to stick to old habits but I think that it's powerful
that the only thing holding you back is just exploring new options there's
thousands and thousands of edible plant species on this planet you know we know
how to eat vegan when you go get a steak dinner you have your steak but then you
have your potatoes your Brussels sprouts and salad maybe asparagus it's about and
this is the exciting part for me now you get to go to the kitchen and learn and
the grocery store and shop for new foods new spices you know combine new veggies
and feel better you can eat a full meal because how do you feel when you eat a
big burger and fries and then some ice cream afterwards do you feel 100% right
you feel like probably you want to take a nap so I went vegan over 4 years ago
it started for health because I had some stomach issues
yeah yeah and if it's something as simple as the
three meals we have a day and if you can get food that tastes good you were
eating your friend's dish I bet it would taste it really good right so why you
were eating it so if you can get all of the nutrients you need while having
tasty food while not contributing to this like why wouldn't you and that's
the thing and I really appreciate this conversation I'm gonna give you this we
have are you in Sydney so this is like the amazing resource for Sydney here it
has all the lists of the 100% vegan restaurants in Sydney everything from
the city that they're in all the different styles of food you know you
have raw foods American ice cream Italian okay and then for Woolworths and
Coles you have all the different vegan alternative brands and then some more
information on how veganism has a benefit effect on the environment
nutrients this and that we have some documentaries to watch right here what
the health since you're really into the health side of it
Jim Netflix okay so what the hell should be your homework it's an amazing
documentary it's not graphic what it's going to do is it's going to walk you
through the industries the medical industries then there you go so look at
some of these products on the back there's a which says challenge 22 it's a
22 day challenge vegan 22 dot-com it'll put you in a Facebook group with people
who are doing the challenge together they'll post recipes shopping lists
they'll help you out because there's mentors in there it'll give you all
those resources which is so amazing but this is how you go to the store and buy
all your alternatives yeah yeah I'll give that one to you and I think I have
let me see if I have one more card actually I don't but at the end of the
day you have a powerful choice and it already seems like your heart is there
your mind is there it's now just speaking to your vegan families speaking
to your vegan friend you will see a big difference in your life one consciously
you'll be someone that's not contributing to this and that's a
decision that you got to make and you've already agreed that you're
against this and you already have that there and that is the drive that you
need now it's educating and researching go to google and type in a seven day
meal plan actually do you have a pen okay okay I'm gonna write down my email
address send me an email I I created a seven day meal plan simple easy with
chilies and salads and everything so it's hello
at Joshua antis com send me an email let me know we spoke and that you want a
seven day meal plan it's amazing it's simple yeah and if you have any other
questions the meal plan no it's free Noorie I'm just like giving it yeah so
it basically it's I created a little calendar and I put Monday Tuesday
Wednesday no worries I made it simple I made it really simple for you and you
can ask me any questions on there as well because I want to make things easy
for you because you know you could see yourself getting to veganism like I
could see that and that's something that's really cool yeah
yeah sure no I really appreciate the time what's your name
Caroline I'm the hugger I'm Joshua yeah I appreciate it and send me an email in
case you have any questions yeah thank you have a good one
appreciate it
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