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-Welcome to the show. -Wow.
-I'm really happy to have you here.
-Thank you for having me.
-This is -- This show, "Homecoming," is based on
a fictional podcast that I listened to
and thought was wonderful.
You listened to it, as well.
The first time you listened to it,
did you think, "I want to make a TV show of this"?
-No. The first time, I just wanted to listen to it as a fan.
And then the -- And I binged it like in one sitting.
And then, the second time, I listened to it with my wife.
And it was like -- About the third, I got a little obsessed.
So about the third binge is when I was like,
"I think there's something here for a TV show."
-And, of course, one of the challenges is
making it different enough to make it worth doing.
And one of the things you've done that makes it
really exciting is Julia Roberts,
who has never done a television series.
You convinced her to do the show.
-I don't -- I'm still -- I don't know how.
I mean, it's Julia Roberts. -Yeah.
-But, you know, I was a huge fan of hers,
you know, since I can remember.
And I remember we were FaceTiming,
and, so, right before we FaceTimed,
I was like -- You know, it was like
two weeks before my wedding.
I was doing dance lessons and I was terrible.
-Yeah. This was for your first dance at your wedding.
-First dance at my wedding.
I mean, literally, like, my wife would cry at the lessons.
-Yeah. -She was like, "We're not --"
-And your wife, it should be noted, is Emmy Rossum.
She's very-talented. -She's super-talented.
-Yeah, she probably is a great dancer, right?
-She's amazing at everything. -Yeah.
-And I can't -- I'm counting as I'm doing the dance steps.
-Yeah, which is not romantic. -No.
And, so I was -- And then I was nervous,
and then I was about to talk to Julia Roberts.
And then we got on the FaceTime, and literally within a minute,
we talked like we were old friends.
We had this, like, weird instant connection.
-It is -- She is one of those people.
She is so magnetic that she makes you immediately --
By the way, I've crossed paths with her
like for one minute backstage at an awards show
and, afterwards, thought, "Wow.
That is the most important person in my life."
-Absolutely. Yes, yes. She can do that.
-And there's also -- And I should say this.
This is -- There's a mystery element to this.
It's very dramatic. -Right.
-It sort of unveils itself as it goes.
It's also 30 minutes long. For a drama, that's very unique.
And I know that was the length of the podcast,
but do you think, going into it,
that would make sense for a drama?
-Yeah, because, you know, with mystery,
you want to give less, not more.
You want people to kind of lean in.
You want people to have this sort of intrigue
and, like, you know, want to leave them wanting more.
And so I thought the shorter episodes really worked,
especially because, you know, we are sort of --
It is kind of, like, a really constrained story line,
and we want it dole it out as carefully as possible.
-Also, it's less depressing to go upstairs
and say you watched six episodes of a show,
if they're only 30 minutes long.
You feel, like, better about yourself.
-Yeah, you can still have a social life
and be a fan of this show.
-There's also -- And, again, it's very intense
and it's very dramatic,
but there's a moment where Julia Roberts
sits down -- And one of her co-stars in this
is Dermot Mulroney.
And I was delighted by that, because, of course,
they were co-stars in "My Best Friend's Wedding."
Is that something you thought would be fun because of that?
-Oh, yeah. This is total fan fiction on my part.
"My Best Friend's Wedding" is one of my
all-time favorite romantic comedies.
And when it came time to casting this part,
which plays her boyfriend, you know, I thought to myself,
"Should I bring up Dermot Mulroney to Julia?"
And, by the way, you know, Julia and I just became, like,
instant friends, so we started playing board games,
and she actually just recently taught me mah-jongg.
-Uh-huh.
-So, we're playing that, and I'm talking to her about this.
And I'm like, "Dermot Mulroney," and she kind of gives me
this look and then she cracks up laughing.
And I'm like, "Oh [bleep] Did I say something wrong?"
And then she tells me that
they're, like, the best of friends,
which I had no idea.
Since the movie, they've been best friends.
And then Dermot -- So, then we cast Dermot.
He comes to the table read.
He's calling her "Jules,"
which is what he calls her in the movie,
"My Best Friend's --"
This is how much of a fan I am of that movie.
So, yeah, my mind was blown. -As was mine.
I want to talk about the other mind-blowing show
that you created, "Mr. Robot."
This is a show that, as you started making it,
things that were plot points in your show
also started happening in real life,
which is, you know, self-driving cars
sort of having minds of their own,
The Ashley Madison website being hacked.
Were you surprised when those things
started happening in the real world?
-I was surprised, but, at the same time,
I mean, think about --
Let's take Ashley Madison, for example.
I mean, we came up with that story line
because it's so obviously going to get hacked.
It's married people having affairs
and registering on a website.
Of course you're going to get hacked.
Why wouldn't you get hacked? And then it came out to be true.
I kind of feel just like this stupid Nostradamus.
You know what I mean? -Yeah.
-Clearly, that's going to happen, you know?
-Well, we're so happy to have --
honored to have Stupid Nostradamus on the show.
Congratulations on both "Mr. Robot" and --
Yeah, this is such an exciting, cool new show.
-Thank you. -Thanks so much for being here.
-Thank you.
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