It's great to be back at AUBG I have to tell you I've missed
this place. You know I signed a one-year deal
because I have a 14 year old daughter was enough what do you know thought oh I miss it
but this I the great year here suppose because great to be back thank I don't
once thank professor white but you Lincoln as possible I have to get to
Sofia right after the talk unfortunately I have to get a cabin bolt so I can't
stay around schmoozing which I would like to but I'll be back I'll be back to
a beach you know this talk is about immigration to the United States was
obviously was where I'm from that's the country I know best but the principles
applied more broadly and they apply to immigration in general I think so the
more I want to make the moral case for open immigration or generally open
immigration and the practical case and the moral case is is based on the
principle of individual rights which is the founding moral principle of the
United States as Thomas Jefferson paraphrasing John Locke wrote that every
individual has been inalienable right to life liberty and the pursuit of
happiness so individual rights is that is a moral principle and the key part of
it is this your life belongs to you it does your life does not belong to the
state does not belong to the church it does not belong to the family your life
belongs to you and with that what that means then is that that applies in the
in the realm of personal morality that as a consenting adult is its your right
to you have a freedom of speech freedom of intellectual expression freedom of
religion freedom to read what you will to the
alternative listen to what what you will and so forth and also in the economic
sphere either your right to work hard earn money buy property owned property
which then belongs to you your right to spot your own business if your
entrepreneurial to make money to retain the profit that that you are so
individual right is a principle here and notice then on this view this these
ideas which you know are basically English in origin and then what put into
practice in the form of English colonies in North America to unlock of course
very important figure in this to be good is that what then morally legitimizes
government why should we have a government what makes it morally
legitimate and that is the answer on these premises is a government what was
what morally legitimizes the government is that it protects an individual's
right to his or her own wife George Washington put this very nicely a good
Lockean President Washington said quote government like fire is a dangerous
servant I love that my business ethics students here last year probably heard
hundred times government like fire is a dangerous servant notice first of all
government is a servant on this view it's its role is to protect the rights
of citizens the right to the to your own life primarily and notice Washington's
saying like compared to fire that analogy the fire has the power to heat
our homes we cook our food and everything but it also has the palette
of burning the home down and government which has the power to protect our
rights then could have can apply the power to to violate those rights as well
and so on the Lockean Jeffersonian view the government must be a Shack because
you need a written constitution with a bill of rights carefully outlining
the proper role of go and what it can and cannot do and of
course guaranteeing to citizens inalienable rights freedom of religion
freedom of speech of - you know famous so that's what more illegal - demise of
the government there's a servant its purpose is to protect individual rights
now let's apply this to the issue of immigration and immigration immigration
eventually should be clear I think you know how the the totalitarian states
close their borders they close their borders for emigration you you can't
leave and I was like that under the Communists in Bulgaria or for example
oil in any in any communist country so I on the principle of because the
communist principle just like for the Nazis whether the National Socialists is
your life does not belong to you your life belongs to the state and the state
the state deems how how your life will be disposable ah so so open borders been
honest people have the right to leave the country now today this very few
places you could go I mean the question is that you'd want
to go to make it very difficult to get into
very difficult to get into the United States you know visit but it's hard to
live and become a citizen one of the places that I love that if I if I chose
not to live in the United States but I'd love to live in would be Switzerland
that's that's also that's a brutally difficult place you know to get into but
the right to return ever great to leave the country and and and question the
right to the if you better have a great you think you have some place to go
that's better the the right of immigration because
honest people have the right as part of the principle of individual
right they have the right to if you're an honest person a hardworking person
you have the right morally to choose your country of residence and to be
ahead to become citizens of a free country now we're going to talk about
the practical benefit of this is in just a few minutes but
it's important to understand the moral case here that just just as a just as an
honest person has the right to move from one part of his or her country to
another so we should have the right to cross borders we're not criminals with
not initiating force or fraud against innocent victims
Mohandas hard-working people we should have the right to cross borders it's
just like the goods Adam Smith a long time ago in wealth of nations publishes
1776 which was a great year for human liberty around the globe Adam Smith made
the case how international free trade it been benefits benefits everybody and
it's the same thing with the flow of goods across national borders benefits
everybody and so does the flow of honest persons or honest immigrants of course
national borders benefits everybody what would possibly icewine the great French
the economic journalist I forget the exact line but if Goods and if goods in
persons don't cross borders then soldiers soldiers will go so something
to that to that fact I think I'm I think bastia is is exactly right so I think
the the government of a free society in order to be the government of a free
society that society to be free must recognize the right of honest immigrants
to cross to cross borders but at the same time part of the government's moral
obligations is to protect the lives and the safety of the citizens of the person
of the persons in that country and so I think is part of the the proper role of
the government of the free society to keep violent people out of the country
as best as it can to keep out criminals and of course today it's yours
referred to as terrorists but criminals jihadist terrorists of any of any kind
and consequently there must be very stringent with severe background checks
on people immigrating into a free country now the critics of the open
immigration will generally open immigration will point out that this is
a normally expensive it is it isn't a moment expensive to do background checks
on people coming into the country to try and keep criminals and she hottests out
so where and from whom will this money come and that's a very good question so
let's turn to the practical side here the practical case for immigration and
that is if you look at the history of the United States
the enormous productivity of immigrants vests would offsets this the the
immigrant productivity is vastly greater than than any any possible cost of a
background checks notice just like it's just give you a few examples from
American history enter quantity penniless Scottish immigrant
revolutionizes the steel industry quanta he was known he's a great rags to riches
story of somebody who went to deep poverty to become when he stole
quantities filled to a conglomerate headed by JP Morgan early 20th century
he was one of the richest men in the world he's worth three hundred four
hundred million dollars and three hundred four hundred million
dollars back then was a lot of money I take it today but uh
but back then the purchasing power of 300 to 400 million dollars would
probably rival the fifty billion dollars that Bill Gates is worth today in
Microsoft stock but funny when kaneki the point here is is this condi was not
you either if you read the biographies of clunky he was known as somebody who
was almost initiated no human being could be omniscient but
almost a mission long knowing in the in the field of steelmaking
I mean Carnegie knew everything about them about making steel marketing steel
hiring firing delegating responsibilities he was an absolute
genius creative genius of the steel industry in
the way Michelangelo was in sculpture and painting you know he doesn't think
it's the credit he deserves for that the key point being that Carnegie was so
efficient at mass producing steel that he brought down the price of steel and
honestly I don't remember the exact moment was brother the ton of the price
per ton of steel came down dramatically because quantity was mass producing it
so efficiently as such a war cost consequently was able to make a profit
at a very low cost and and beat out his competitors because they they couldn't
they couldn't profit at the whole price he quick uh what's what follows from
that look at this fascinating the way
innovations build the plant innovations in a free society Henry Ford and
inexpensive steel to manufacture automobiles and Ford consequently could
then manufacture automobiles at a price low enough that millions of millions of
millions of customers could afford to buy uh
skyscrapers use a lot of Steel trying to claw naggy it would have been
prohibitively expensive to build some guys great business your car though we
don't see or anywhere else the expensive steel made that possible and one thing
that often gets overlooked when we talk about quantities productivity and more
broadly immigrant productivity what Americans went proudly the fattest
people history the agricultural technology that rolls off the assembly
at the John Deere plant the tractors combines the harvesters I mean America
the American cause I don't think it I put anyone but the food that's producer
united enormous food producer and one reason for that is American farmers are
an outworking the north 40 with a you know with a pan flour on new
state-of-the-art agricultural technology well inexpensive steel is necessary for
that for the for the harvesters combines in track this could be price one off for
farmers to afford them so that's it talk about immigrant productivity I mean
Khurana he himself is uh is just a walking example but in any field you
want to mention were the Balkans we have to discuss Tesla right uh Tesla was a
genius without a doubt who was his main advance was the AC induction motor and
he went into production with George Westinghouse in the United States
against Edison and Edison's great reputation as the inventor of the its
investment electric light but Tesla was right Tesla and Western Hospital right
that the AC alternating current was much more efficient that's transmitting
electricity of course the vast distances of the North American continent and it
was Tesla and Westinghouse won that the was the war of the currents against
Edison made a lot of money but though it is again the productivity that the
ability that transmit electricity across vast distances and all that makes
possible in industry just been having electric lights in your home the ability
to work by night you buy the electric light is vastly better than candlelight
or even gasps so Tesla you know enormous leap could talk in any fields you want
to mention so far we've been discussing material wealth created by immigrants
steal quantities case electricity of we transmit electricity in Tesla's case
but intellectual wealth as well I mean Albert Einstein escaping the
Nazis of course fled to America and work for his last unit at Princeton
University in one of the great physicists of history creating creating
theories in physics intellectual world my favorite writer and philosopher I ran
my student Celestia notion we read The Fountainhead she was born in Russia grew
up under the Communists escaped the Communists came to came to Newark City
wrote great novels the Antho she wrote anthem The Fountainhead Atlas Shrugged
creative a philosophic system based in Aristotle he was not well he actually
was but thankfully in the fourth century BC but for Macedonian degrees and based
in the in the philosophic system of iris clock and her novels have inspired
millions of people I think to live better lives both in the in the United
States and around the world you know I could go on and on with the
examples but from from history but I also want turn to current events
bubbling already just from from the history we get we could see the the
productivity of immigrants has created so much intellectual and material wealth
and that's just in the United States number one when immigrants other
countries have to have a contributor which is one reason why you know I
didn't support Donald Trump for president the country long before Trump
was moving to make enough decades of what's right moving to make it more and
more difficult into the United States Trump just wants
to take it to the next level and build a wall of course the Mexican border which
i think is in the same idea and we'll discuss Mexican immigrants in in a
couple of minutes but let's turn from the history of immigrant productivity to
current current events look at some of the again some of the areas where the
United States is enormously productive food production is one we've discussed
that briefly but high-tech Silicon Valley is this wondrous place of immense
creativity in so many in so many different fields Steve Jobs of course
legendary for this really well you know drop down a drop down a Reed College
after one semester with his buddy Steven Wozniak in the jobs family garage it
created the creative the future as Steve Jobs put it in his not so modest way you
know but uh created Apple which of course is a great company but uh see
you're gay brimlovich jobs women Jobs was born in the United States but his
his father was a Syrian immigrant right by Eliza before those I don't suppose it
was it was assuming the Syrian Erica Timmy nice to see her gay bring one of
the cofounders of Google emigrated to the United States from the Soviet Union
Jerry Yang one of the cofounders of Yahoo emigrated to the United States
from Taiwan they're not cussler one of one of the
founders of Sun Microsystems emigrated to the United States from India
Andres Becca stripe another of one of the founders of Sun Microsystems
emigrated to the United States Boyd's we're in German Silicon Valley is
filled with a large number of foreign-born engineers enormous ly
creative work and that continues to this day I have personal friend working in
Silicon Valley from India who is a very very honest hard-working
bishop guy back in the 90s one before it's wrong they deported me sent her
back to India if I had any juice with the immigration of boys are we crazy
this guy's not a criminal he's not a terrorist he's a software engineer he's
doing he's doing very creative work you know you should put out the red carpet
for guys like this the other day in the country ah yeah the low-skilled workers
we're talking about we've been talking about very high skilled you know
producers so for some cases you know geniuses but the low skill Yoda Andrew
Carnegie going back to him or Tesla or what people like that John Roebling the
German immigrant who perfected the suspension bridge II don't think
Rockland bridge across the East River between Brooklyn and Manhattan people
like that might have come into the into the United States for monetarily poor
but they have what equity kinda small but they bring with them what economists
call immense human capital human capital that is intelligence creative ability in
one field to another and always that's your I that work ethic that's arrived to
work hard well the low-skilled workers that Trump
wants to give the low-skilled many many this is not not fair to Mexicans to
claim that the Mexican can work as a low-skilled many oh you know they're ice
cream and maybe very good doctors lawyers engineers who wanted come of
course but the stereotype is the the the low skilled worker that Trump wants to
build a wall to keep out of the country now I can tell you a story that's whose
story I won't mention I won't mention qalam qalam men well not as me he's he's
guy he's a he's a immigrant until United States he lives in the New York and his
wife live in the area and they have a cleaning service
they clean houses so I'm something of a slob you know I'm not married anymore so
you might might want me though messy I hired I hired what I say his name was
Manuel I hired Manuel to clean my water did not I ask him whether he's in the
country with people you will not miss even if you don't build we build he's
not gonna tell me that but but but I didn't ask but I'm on a
don't-ask-don't-tell basis pay him in cash and his wife doing outstanding so I
would take the old babe I'm not very efficient take me all day to clean the
plumbing in a way that they do in like an hour and pay them you know 80 dollars
in cash and you know they're very they're very efficient yeah what they do
now this about the same thing as Tesla designing the AC induction motor this is
true but there's all kinds of honest productive work there's all kinds of
honest but thought that work and cleanliness is important I don't want to
live in a pigsty and you probably don't even somebody's got it coming in since
I'm not very good at doing it myself you know those are probably not the best
use of my time that I could write books use what they call the division of late
right I could write books make money as much as my body I can make money and
then I could pay somebody to work on my car or a clean life Norman you know
we'll fix the air conditioner the owner or something like that division of labor
anyhow there's all the the low-skilled work is you know that and cleaning is
not considered high skill work although I remember I remember mine that doesn't
mean that you can't make good money at this they've been thinking $80 you know
for me the two of them so through them they do it they do it in like an hour
so they $40 apiece per hour Lex what about hiring an Ecuadorian
immigrant to clean our house and I remember her name like 15 years ago she
also was very efficient what she did she rolled up that first day in a brand-new
shiny white sheets Araki you know a much better car than
regina Rohit Shroff please guys you know she started her own
business he was not interminable she hai had you know a bunch of people to work
for when she was asleep driving with those little kids makes you what they
were working you know make us where they were clear but yes yeah I think I could
tell she did very well she had her own business but anyhow the point is that
with with whether somebody's going to be a software engineer in Silicon Valley or
somebody's gonna be an entrepreneur you know it's about their own business or
somebody's gonna you know clean houses or whatever it is the labor force
participation rates in the United States do not lie they show that the immigrant
workers at any level lot of ones most likely to be working and working long
hours and working productively to put it simply if someone pruning there's a lot
of native-born Americans that are lazy they brought they've been born into
middle-class comfort they not that that's not that that's a bad thing
but they've been born into the middle-class comfort they're used to it
they grew up with it and they just they think things just take it for granted in
my students day not hungry they're not driven to really you know
excel to work hard that's not true of all Americans but I don't know a lot of
David born Americans were very hard workers including some people who are
born into young affluent family but but as a general rule that immigrants have a
storm of work ethic then the native one that were born into middle class the
labor force participation makes bone line they still immigrant work is both
illegal both legal and illegal have
have a higher labor force participation rate than the native-born Americans at
the history and they this is this is true of the of the Latino immigrants
that Trump has a particular animosity clause it's true of immigrants in
general in our day and has been through historically one of my favorite Portela
if you guys Norman Thomas soul is pleased that he's not he's an American
economist black American economist brilliant guys really like dozens
reports I have about a dozen of Professor Souls but on my my personal
library my favorite Thomas saw if you want to
google them is his soul was built esto wel L Thomas all my favorite Thomas all
book is that the camara this is written 1980 me but it's about all the different
immigrant groups all different ethnic groups you know in the in the United
States the history or there was just vascular whether it's the Mexicans or
the Chinese or the jews or custom canada leaders here the greeks you know the
young Italians the Irish to be a professor clear about it but you know
the always different immigrant groups and and the Sicilians are a really good
example because it was a strong young US had basically open borders live nineteen
turn of the twentieth century millions and millions and millions of of
immigrants from Europe most of them very poor you'll flooded in into the United
States in the late nineteenth and turn of the 20th century and the Sicilians
were you know a major component of that and it's interesting because in Sicilian
culture your professor song points now it was very agriculture where you work
the land and so the the the parents wanted the children at home working the
land and they resisted government education they resisted that
the other state one compulsory education put those kids in school and the
families resisted that they wanted that first of all
tight-knit family there one of the kids with them not with some government you
know appointed teachers and second of all they needed them to work the land so
the point being that the Sicilian immigrants as as people do brought that
culture with them to the United States there was not there was a very very weak
emphasis on education amongst the Sicilians there was like three
generations before you started to see a lot of these Italian kids go to college
I was in high school in 1960s I remember you look at my yearbook you know where
you're going after after high school I grew up in Brooklyn it was it was a
heavily Italian Jewish neighborhood good ol issue with the Weinberg's the
Grossman's the Bernstein's way up top well the Sicilian the only Italian kids
don't work there was the late 1960s before you start to see a lot of Italian
kids in the United States go to go to college and culture grads really changed
in the United States the emphasis of go top the Sicilian culture finally you'll
gave later but Thomas ol points out the Sicilians
had already risen into the middle-class comfort by that by that time and what
they were in in that case it wasn't a college education that drove half those
levels it was a fluent level spent all their college education the Sicilians
roads as sole points that by sheer work ethic and the willingness to take is the
kind of that very simple event a lot of the Latino immigrants today
the willingness to do any kind of work clean the sewers will do it sweep the
streets will do it pick rags and then and and sell rags
you know will do it the Sicilian simply had the willingness to won through any
kind of work and to work longer hours at Swami's yawns that native-born Americans
didn't want and they rise out of poverty into middle class compliment was fueled
by a simple willingness to work that's that's absolute true my
experience with the with this the children of the grandchildren of
Sicilian immigrants and the facts of figures that that soul provides in his
book what's interesting here is that the Jews will very soon because today in the
United States the the Jews tend to be very awkward
but the youth as it's a rule the the truth tend to be to be affluent but time
I was a kid just a 1960 actually a little before that post-world War two
look before my time 1945 the the cliche of the Jewish doctor the Jewish MD was
already with Orion cars fact the joke when I was a kid was what's the
definition of a lawyer a nice Jewish boy that can't stand the sight of blood
I was already for shit by but by post-war period bull 1950 the Jews had
already caught that a niche for themselves in America as educated
professions but that's not how its thought and Thomas whole point sped up
the the Jewish immigrants from Russia Poland Ukraine
you know sold sold things where the poorest immigrant move in the history of
the United States was his state something given the Irish you know and
and the Sicilian and but it makes sense that the Jews was so oppressed for so
long the pogroms and everything you know in Eastern Europe that makes it the to
started they arise from rads of middle-class comfort as in the so called
sweatshops in the garment industry and the Lower East Side of Manhattan I what
I forget the exact dates it's all points out by 1915 during World War one
there was already a large Jewish population in New York City there was a
very few Jewish kids but in as late as 1915
who had graduated from high school they all left cameras before they all left to
go to go to work a lot of them in the garment industry but likely the
Sicilians the choose Wells into the middle class by by the willingness to
simply work fraud jacob riis so-called muckraker in american history wrote a
book how the other how the other half lives you know about the time terrible
terrible poverty of the of the lower classes they pointed out that even tell
from if you read the chapter on what was it the Jews of sweat town you've reached
I can was paint you can you can read he wasn't a big fan of Jews and something
wasn't a big fan of capitalism what you thought exploited the workers and yet in
that chapter about the his book let's chapter about the Jews he points out the
silver lining here all these hours these guys work at the sweatshops you know
they could close the silver lining he pointed out was they all have money in
the back they saved money and of course after one generation they tend to move
out of the Lower East Side of New York City into Brooklyn Queens the Bronx
another generation later into the suburbs on Long Island Westchester
County that their children are certainly there graduated went to college so you
see the the this point about immigrant productivity we've seen it all through
the history of the United States going back more than 100 years ago and
continuing to this day with the Latino immigrants the shield willingness to
work hard and it takes got you know low humming jobs that the native the
native-born Americans are simply too good for you know this is what fuels the
rise a lot of the immigrants you'll work really hard living and they're and
they're poor but the case they're the case that the case have the case their
children and their grandchildren to much better they go if they go to college and
and it opens up many many different kinds of kind of jobs now I want to read
up I want to be a micro capitalist solution in that final chapter on
individual rights apply to to representative issues the war on drugs
be won and the stuff went on in the immigration now there's a couple get hit
speaking of current most skilled immigrant workers Jason Riley editor
from The Wall Street Journal Riley noted quote by heading not a
typical Mexican Mexican immigrant can nearly quadruple his hourly wage and
that's even adjusting for cost of living differences the average American worker
sends home 41% of his pay to support his his poor family
Riley's conclusion supports that Linda Chavez who also studied labor force
participation rate nearly twenty years ago
whoa we know from labor force participation rates that low-skilled
immigrants are society's hardest workers unquote that's interesting we repeat
them we know from labor force participation
rates that low-skilled immigrants are society's hardest workers so I raised
the question of should America become the country denying a home to humanity's
hardest workers well shouldn't openness magnanimous arms and clasp such workers
to his bosom which policies in America's long-term self-interest such immigrant
willingness then and now to work at jobs generally spawned by the native-born is
a universal winner the immigrants can get to live
work in America with greater freedom and high living standards than in the
nations they abandoned and their children and grand children tend to
exceed them both educationally and economically American employers get
supply of cheap labor willing to perform any task no matter how menial American
customers enjoy the lower prices that result from a cheap labor supply
low-skill native-born workers competing for jobs with immigrants who
enjoy the immense advantage of speaking fluent English and of knowing the
culture thoroughly should be incentivized to upgrade their skills so
in other words it's a win-win to to open the waters and let in society's hardest
workers if somebody spent their entire life in politics they made the ignorance
of this but somebody like balance wrong who's a successful businessman who's you
know he's built all over the New York area and who's run a successful business
Trump should always he should know that immigrant immigrant workers as a general
rule tend to be society smartest works so we say let me wrap the stuff so weak
we can we can leave some time for Question and Answer
ah look I think that summarize what we see first of all are the principle of
individual rights from the moral case the principle of individual rights
honest people have have the right moral and should be recognized legally to
cross borders choose to choose the country of their residence they do good
not evil they do a hard-working honest and and and their right to their right
to force national borders to choose the country of their residents should be
upheld and recognized by the legal system practically we've seen the
enormous productivity of immigrants whether whether it's software engineers
in Silicon Valley whether it's steel makers by cancer
whether it's mole skill Latino workers who clean houses or whatever it is or
the Sicilians were the Jews historically we've seen the enormous productivity and
consequently the background checks that we have to we have to go through that
try and keep we always had to do with criminals and now we have the added
incentive to keep see artists out of the country I be spending a good deal of
time you can create written like the end and you see the number of terrorist
attacks in Britain Britain is you know I'm one have one of the one of the the
fears that that's roll brexit one of the reasons that the British wanted to leave
the European Union is their fear that let's say Germany for example lets in a
number of Muslims some subset of whom may supports Yod
well those people that then gain entry into into the UK because you can see
that the Brits from your fear of anyhow we need to keep murderers of all kind
out whether it's garden-variety criminals or people who are
ideologically driven by religion or whatever we even do background checks
they're expensive that's absolutely true but I think we can see immigrant
productivity vastly exceeds the wealth created vastly exceeds the amount of
money it's gonna cost to doing those kinds of background checks so I think
you know what I mentioned Iran before Washington River into the United States
one of the beautiful principles from her philosophy of Objectivism that I love
the moral is the practical it's morally right here is to protect individual
rights the rights of honest people to cross borders choose the country of
residence and the practical benefits of that is the immense productivity that
free country gains from so let me let me wrap it up and
go to the questions thank you questions yes what's wrong
oh yeah what I may I may use some fall that words but you know the lady asked
me to elaborate on my thoughts on its wrongs immigration policy but let me put
this in terms that are printable because we're in a we're at a university let's
think she was very mistaken the big the objections immigration is this is who
major was the conservative objection is that is the fear that the immigrants
have on welfare and anyone and cost the US taxpayers a lot of money the the
leftist the leftist objections they're in bed with the labor unions and the
lady use don't want to compete with with immigrant workers because the original
work is they're willing to work for salaries that wants more than ladies so
Thompson who was a Democrat most of his most of his life you know a friend of
Bill and Hillary Clinton a fundraiser for the Clintons Trump and one other
things is no unprincipled opportunist there was there was no hope of getting
the Democratic nomination for the presidency Obama was president and you
know he's vice presidents while his case Secretary of State was gonna be the
which part haha you know and and it helped him helping gave the presidency
but anyway he's a Republican now and so he's not indebted to the lady you like
he wasn't gonna fulfill a labor you live use typically today I said take that
back sister wrinkly or a lot of the rank-and-file labor guys vote for Trump
even though the label of that both Republican even though the label leaders
the welfare state feel is the end of this disease of phobia you guys know
what xenophobia sphere Florida's fear of outside is fear of different tribes
racism everybody's got to be like us the maybe the classic case of that in the
wall today's Japan surrenders your pencil very how much unity so professor
Pat Kelly has lived and worked in Japan I have not been eaten Hewitt well you
went outside to uh suppose when you in Japan was an outsider they could see me
from a mile away dick comes that Greek American guy but
we felt like a like a linebacker anybody better avoid him but the xenophobia you
see it in the United States you know it's still there's still people who
think if they're if they're opened immigration at all it would have to be
white Europeans you so we don't want these dark you know all that he knows
you know coming into the country uh so there's this either phobic element to
look I mean the book fit what I get from conservatives over and over again is the
welfare state let me let me arrange but Spencer leach wrong is is well he said
things about Mexico workers are the worst then that they gotta go office
Mexican Mexican immigrants were well legal message the givers were rapists
and you see some women in young the welfare state
objection is is amazing so let me get let me interest
it makes me one of most Republicans and that is your the idea that the
immigrants are coming to the country go along welfare they gonna cost American
taxpayers a normal about money well it's - this response
itself I've already given one as a matter of empirical fact every
pretension in societies - workers that includes Latinos to be a labor force
participation rates do not a lot so that's just ridiculous what's false the
idea schools but worse than that's irrelevant what we do about the welfare
state should be a whole separate issue from immigration they're not the same
thing and they shouldn't be conflated now personally I think the lovefest
makes you do this is a lose-lose situation in the long enough for
everybody and I think it should be gradually phased out but but the point
is then two separate issues and the the most the overwhelming number of people
on welfare in the United States are native-born
US says it's not immigrants who have the other strongest work ethic imaginable
and in most cases and always did so I think it's a very very mistaken party so
as far as the labor unions go the unions have with the help of the US government
they've lied before and they've gained labor legislation that in many cases
force literally force employers to negotiate only with the unions they see
this is the auto industry is a good example you can't hire non-union workers
scabs or strike breakers in the union's non-objective terminology non-union
workers are out they can't they can't get jobs in the auto industry and has
served others and the employees you know campaigning the the unions have sought
and with with the help of government legislation have obtained a monopoly on
the labor law it's just they have a legal monopoly on labor market they've
been able to jack wage rates are much higher than they would be
on a free labor law well my message to the unions is one one verb compete it's
the essence of a free society was among the essence of a free society it's among
the essence of a free market it's what enable the United States to
become the wealthy powerful nation has compete I have to compete it's very
possible that let's say the Maris College might teach philosophy let's say
they can find an Indian in India who can do this my telecommunication or just
immigrated to United States who can teach my philosophy classes as well as I
can look better and do that alone willing to do it at a lower summer I
have to compete and and if matters why is him or her instead of me that's their
that's their right that if the guy isn't good and he could teach the students and
the person is good they could teach the spoon as effectively then you know that
I have no complaint well I would I have to do is neither be willing to work and
that waits what or tip won't go into another field today I probably just
build UI for Google you know more money more money that way but I remember I'm
old enough to remember in the 1980s as the computer revolution was was was
beginning 1980 nobody had but the 1980s you know the
computer revolution is beginning and in in business and in home and I
remember a number of people that I went to graduate school within philosophy
thinking and doing philosophies not gonna I'm not gonna be able to make a
living but in the computer field I can as for taking my class is to study
computer science and get jobs as programmers now hopefully I saw a number
of people do that hopefully they're happy in their profession certainly that
could be very challenging profession I know for sure they're making more money
you know which is which is which is a good thing so sometimes you simply need
to upgrade your skills or change professions but but the willingness to
compete is part of a free society and a free economy and if I lose my job to the
Indian immigrant who could teach teach philosophy classes as well as I can have
a better and a lower salary that doesn't mean I'm this far I mean the blacksmiths
who will put out a business by the by the automobile revolution what about by
Henry Ford didn't slob some of them might have upgraded their skills Minh
gone to work for the Ford Motor Company it was assembly one Weinberger's
similarly for the for the people who made a living so you guys never seen the
typewriter any question the same in the United States if is a 20 year old kids a
lot of them they're gonna see a typewriter but when I was a kid what
were the big typewriter companies spinach olive a Remington Rand right
Smith yeah a lot of people were not only wit
typewriters but a lot of people obviously were working for the
typewriter manufacturers no manufacturing type works well when you
know computers replace typewriters which made which made white-collar work office
work workers an enormous name offered thought there he consequently
could command highest salaries the the people who work for the typewriter
companies was what out of business they didn't install a problem
a lot of them probably upgraded their skills to be able to work with what
computers my sister my older sister was a long time secretary she didn't work
for a typewriter company but she was a longtime secretary you know who was a
very very skilled typist well no more typewriters you know but she took yo she
got on-the-job training from our employees to operate her skills yes so
she can work with with with the computers but people work with a
typewriter companies needed to upgrade their skills you know and and and get
get different get different jobs we need to be we need to be willing to compete
in the market wasn't I said by that's my point
to native-born American workers and tell a the unions in particular they don't
want to compete even with non-union workers never mind with immigrants you
know so compete compete compete upgrade your skills the speaking of immigrants
the Austrian economist Joseph Schumpeter sort of you be studying Business
Economics you can be might you might know she later was an immigrant
professor home from Austria professor at Harvard but nobody is she will pay the
poor capitalism a process of creative destruction I don't know if that's the
best thing but you see the point you know you have a free market you've
unleashed the thinking of all these entrepreneurs so Henry Ford you know
mass-produces automobiles and you put out a business you know the the the
buggy makers and the blacksmiths and the buggy whip magnified Sprint movie and
that was Danny DeVito most other people's money you want to give us see
but people like Steve Jobs and Steve Wozniak and you at Apple Bill Gates of
Microsoft they fuel the computer revolution was pushed out of business
typewriter manufacturers creative destruction you it's poor progress is a
better day for and we need to be willing to
skills immigrants of immigrants are willing to approve themselves from the
only country and culture they've ever known travel thousands of miles away
from family and friends so a different culture learn a new language they're
willing to up that is part of what makes immigrants such hard workers they they
they they have this initiative the others try to make their line is better
well we native-born Americans should at least have the wind this pretty house
skills you know and compete in the marketplace so the main the men I think
Trump's main objection he like so many Republicans is the the fear that
immigrant gotta go on welfare you know and that's his force and and more than
force it's irrelevant even the word true they're not the same issue they're two
different issues what we what we do with the welfare state is unrelated to what
we what we do with immigration he's an I support by the way back i
quoting from Nathan glazier an American sociologist but Glaser policeman thinks
a really good Lincoln plays it makes it makes a really
good point on this one give me a minute here it is Nathan glazier made make this
exact point in the context of identifying the main difficulty of
attempting to successfully restrict immigration whoa whatever our policies
are however our biggest problem will be to carry them out in a world in which so
many see entry into the United States as a way of improving themselves that's
absolutely true even today so many people see entry into the United States
as a way of improving themselves and I think they're right
notice if you make one less one less pointless into this lady's question
Trump wants to build a wall I mean it's almost it's almost comical
a wall what what interesting difference with the Communists is economy this
built walls to keep people in so Trump stay in the capitalist should build a
wall to keep people out what a wall that we pointed out to President Trump was
presumably a very intelligent guy a wall is a very medieval technology right the
the Great Wall of China was largely successful in keeping out not monsters
if he saw that ridiculous by payment will be listed top the Mongols
the Quartus in the Middle Ages and the Mongols were warriors been there was a
hard rock so they might say a Brooklyn these were some tough guys they but not
very technologically advanced when they no means to get over the wall it'll
weather today yo how easy you would be to defeat the wall I could see there's
already these Mexican drug cartels that make a lot of money smuggling drugs into
the United States you put two and two together and get and get four guess what
else these smugglers are not gonna be able to make money and smuggling right
immigrants work I can just see the the the Mexican drug cartels look at that
shops yeah this is the the Baptist of bootleggers example if you know that get
the boats ready boys the boats ready well there's this big body of Mexico you
know I took this business home toast wine he has pulled the Pacific Ocean
she's all we got boats to go up you know to San Diego or whatever tell helicopter
over the wall bail fig under the wall and above all they will move around
the walls of medieval technology this is the way this what it will do is it costs
a lot of money so this is like the war on drugs the war on every goods would be
like a moral choice puts a ton of money they'll be completely futile it's gonna
be a major failure and it is gonna drive the homicide rate even higher because
there's a lot of money to be made now smuggling drugs these thugs kill each
other in competition you know you know gangsters don't like they don't
negotiate you smuggle drugs in over here
they kill each other so they can get you know even a greater market share well
that would be killing each other for the lucrative profession of smuggling
workers into the United space not just smuggling few months very predictably
the walls can be expensive is going to be a failure and the homicide rates go
go those are the very predictable results of of Chuan's policy of building
well thank God a lot of people united states realize this and Trump hasn't got
a lot of traction you know in his plan to to build well I haven't heard much
about it lately I think maybe he realizes it's oh I'm sorry I don't
answer questions briefly other questions I see it lady in the back my question is
connected against the Trump at one place but the United States has a reputation
of a free country till you sit to be a free country you should actually let the
people who are willing to cross the border to cross the border moreover like
immigrants have a big impact on the economy of the United States from the
statistics we could see and don't you think that actually if all the
regulations the Trump is trying to cut not only building the wall that is like
something like unbelievable but all other regulations that she's trying to
cut for work and travel students and for like harder getting into the states it
actually happen yes good question this lady's pointing
out Trump's anti-immigrant policies not just are not restricted to building a
wall you know it's making these making them more difficult for the students to
come into the country and go to school there the students become in and where I
know in the past a lot of men ubg students were to the United States in
the summer right and I still Charles making them looking thinking them what
more difficult now oh I thought we just give you a personal anecdote and I'm not
I got one of these and the blue Passport is my friend
Marshak family it was actually from Bulgaria boys my meaning so when I get
one was a blue pencil it was he now had but he came for the country what was
wrong but I was I was in in London when England a few weeks ago the guy gave
unless you at Oxford when I was dead oh and Heathrow fly in New York they
grilled me I felt like I was getting on an El Al flight to Tel Aviv I mean if
you I mean they spent 15 minutes grueling me like I was some kind of
criminal assault this is part of your Trump's your policy even even there to
make it more difficult to gain entry into a nice thing it's a big mistake for
the reasons that I gave tour in during the talk the immigrant productivity has
just repeat what I said has been slowly immense especially people you want to
come to the United States with study so you know people go to some of the been a
counselor with Stanford or Princeton or Harbor the University of Chicago just
some of the top colleges in the country some of the top colleges in the world
oh well weigh them through a lot of those foreign-born students you don't
want to stay in work after they graduate a lot of them are spending nights me so
if somebody comes from Bulgaria let's say or Moldova is not even though the
country until last year funny to put it
from China or who stand up I forget his name of you might know that that guy
from that that that MV from Nigeria who's the one who figured out the
concussion problem in the NFL you don't talk about yeah I'm a model was that as
made games empathy from Nigeria and you know he's the one who's made all these
advances like that the name of the disease is not unpronounceable that's
who all this well that's all about terrible brain injuries America a lot of
these guys wanna buy these people one of them not to score school in the United
States but they want to live and work in the United States
that's what reasons that should be obvious the product if you want to keep
out the MDS and the end of the year this isn't you know there's a name for this
process of very highly skilled people of immense human capital coming into the
free countries is called the brain drain they caught the brain turn and an
immensely favors of three countries it immensely favorite the United States for
a long time this is why the Berlin Wall went up in 1961 it wasn't just that
there was millions of people I forget I think like three and a half million
Germans escaped to the west you know cuz most of Germany was the Communist had
sealed off it was that little loophole in Berlin it's like three and a half
million had fled to the west
was it a bunch of you know farmers that the that the Communists were concerned
with it was what they called the brain drain the Soviets didn't wanna okay the
law because it was it allowed trade with the West and allowed for consumer goods
to come into the East of one some B's didn't want to know the East German
Communist Lobby with the Soviets for years to build
and what finally convinced them was the brains mean the engineers the doctors
the teachers employers the professor of the scientists writers they were losing
their most educated and intelligent people well you want these people in
your society okay the Communists built walls to keep the bit now Trump's gonna
build walls to keep them out are you freaking kidding what you stupid fuck
these people the students that you're talking about you want them then the
other gaining skills negative they're gonna be enormous ly productive and very
valuable you know you want them in your country the brain train phases you
presidents Letterman Letterman you're absolutely right it's absolutely and any
terms you want to mention it's immoral you're violating the rights of honest
people to choose their country of residence and it's impractical you keep
it some of the most talented hard-working productive people who have
the country it's just wrong and it's done yes the thing that what you
mentioned the opening of the borders could eventually backfire similar to the
case Britain what we mean about Britain you're not about you how does come into
the country wall Jim brexit it was a big factor there you think that yeah egative
a negative outcome my occur what's the city I understand the question you know
Trump Trump's election and directs it to the large degree I'm motivated by the
same thing there's a xenophobic you know fear of Juarez which is a racist element
and then there's the economic element that we don't to compete with the you
know with with with the the immigrant workers so it's a part of
it you know so these issues are often complex the part I empathize with is
what keep criminals INSEAD us out of the country
we've seen that interest in the last year but that's what we need that's why
I advocate your strong background checks but um given that I think the process of
education here we need to we need to educate you know honest working people
in Britain and the United States and other relatively free countries but they
need to compete that's what made the country wealthy in the first place you
know the wealth that they enjoy is based upon the on the freedom in the society
and including in the marketplace you compete and you does even if you lose
your job to whatever you're working it doesn't mean you have to suffer the if
you have the willingness to upgrade your skills that so many people have done
historically you you you you could you could still do well in an in a free
society and a free economy you know you can you could you could still do well
and I wasn't kidding before I could probably make more money
driving for uber than I could teach you philosophy and let's just put it
wouldn't be as much harm to me I love dealing with the ideas I've been around
in a car world that he doesn't it's not my idea but you know I have to make
money to pay my daughter's tuition so you don't do you I'll do it I'll do it
attacks yes we've been willingness to make changes in in your life a lot of
people don't want to make changes in their life
I know selling shoes that's what I've done all my life and if I have you know
my parents had a shoe store I have a shoe store if Walmart puts me out of
business because they sell shoes cheaper than I do
lost of some come I'm gonna stop and so I lobby the City Council passed laws
both let Walmart for now with that now it's much much
better attitude is if walmart sells shoes cheaper than then we don't put our
store out of business won't want my bill destroyed next year that gives me a year
or two leave time to say what I want to do so one study computer science you
know if you're a slicer is a obvious business anybody who's skilled you know
in computers it has real you know was not on the ferryboat if anybody was
skilled in that area has a real advantage and from what I understand is
not even even that difficult uh what do I wanted to do I wanted to drive for
uber do I want to upgrade my skills you know and study computers this do I want
to be located you know what a lot of people feel like they're locked into one
job one profession one town one area and states that cognizant of the immigrant
mindset what cross the ocean will go around the world will learn a new
language will leave off friends family behind will go to a different culture
you know you think that's have this very expensive you would like the
possibilities a lot of native-born Americans feel like that walk into this
very narrowly yeah educate them and it's a big world
bro there's a lot of things you can do you're not necessarily locked into
selling shoes there's other things you can do with your life and on the area's
if you want to do you want to smell shoes those other areas but Walmart
doesn't have a school I go to New York City think of all that won't build this
book I got a question so you said that state should work for
society therefore society choose its leaders through votes and elections
presumably the voters for Trump has his thinking water who can change the
thinking of society towards migration
they change the thinking of society about immigration but it's not to go
much broader than that again I agree with agree with Iran Russian segment
that philosophy ultimately is what survives an individual's the philosophy
held is what survives an individual's life or Society
Fritz's known as the example incest used the immigrants philosophy tends to be
very different than many of the native warmth that they have they have a view
of that the world is why it's broad it's open they're willing to change careers
countries cultures languages learn new skills new language new culture where a
lot of the native one won't want to compete they have a very narrow view of
life's possibilities very different philosophy and here's where I think
first of all I recommend everybody here to read Iran's books I think that the
tool in particular language read isn't Fountainhead and Atlas Shrugged but I
certainly want to do everything I can to promote people in all over the world in
the United States and Britain the Switzerland let's say or anywhere else
you know to realign random realize the virtues of freedom and reason of the of
the rational mind of human life and a freedom to liberate the rational mind
and create a lot of wealth if we realize that will realize then once we realize
the value of the mind rational thinking operating in a free society then we'll
be able to value this creative in productivity
yeah the brings me let them come let them come here we want we want the
doctors and the engineer's and the software guys and the entrepreneurs we
want them and they create well and and the most skilled guys who clean houses
or work as you leave as the Sicilians did clean and the sewers no whatever
those ourselves have to be done maybe the robots will do that
future but you know who probably create the robot probably foreign-born
engineers and silicon well you know that some American for an engineer
ah but anyhow well I think I think Iran's boss if it's philosophy work slow
but it's this is a philosophic problem it's a problem of people's philosophy
there's no other way that there's no other way to deal with a philosophical
problem that with a better philosophy and I think the good news is I'm and
again she was a Russian one everything in that space I think mine ran its books
me and philosophy of Objectivism make that possible so I strongly
recommend everybody to read it and getting and give copies of the fact then
that was shrugged everybody who know especially that's Rama and his many
supporters so that they could so that they can come to appreciate the vast
amount of the immigrant productivity speaking of which I have to get the
Sophie you know one thing I learned in Bulgaria it's pronounced Sophia right
everybody a nice nice Brown says Sophia but it's Sophia right ah my good buddy
Colleen with Olaf when you might know as a TV journalism has to be speaking on
capitalism the moral basis of capitalism to a bunch of Bulgarian politicians at
four o'clock 1600 Oh sir ah now what my Bulgarian school has
taught me last year is that Bulgarian politics is corrupt as hell and so I
didn't know that but I learned that how my student so you can wish me good luck
in speaking to the Bulgarian politicians but I gotta get it thank you but thanks
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