So, here we are
Still empty haha. - Yes, extremely empty.
Less than two months from now.
10 years of Project One in the Ziggo Dome.
Is that a show that you're already very occupied with?
Or is that something you postpone?
No...an event like this requires months of preparation.
Especially with our touring schedules.
And in particular with Willem's schedule haha.
So that's something you really need to start in time with.
I just spoke someone in Asia and they almost want to give him an Asian passport.
He can almost live there yes
You could easily move to Japan
Because you're very occupied with it at the moment right? Often on the road.
Yes it's crazy.
We're constantly puzzling and searching for the right balance.
To get in a proper flow music wise
But I think we're on the right track.
But of course, the music is what matters the most.
At least, for us.
There was of course one moment when Project One started
We're celebrating the act's tenth birthday this year
When was the very first time that the name or the idea was created?
Do you remember that moment?
Well...I just joined Scantraxx.
And I often joined Dov in the studio and Willem was also there.
The Prophet. - Yes The Prophet.
And uhm...
We started to work on a collab.
And I believe that we already had one release together? Blame It On The Music I think.
So that was still just Headhunterz and Wildstylez.
And at one point, which was pretty cute actually when you think about it.
We were in such a good flow, just created another track together.
Can't remember which one tough...
Project One.
No that one came later.
We first had Project One and Blame It On The Music. - Yes.
And after that we went onto the next release.
And it just was so easy working together that we said...
let's start an act.
So you guys working together in the studio just went so well.
Yes definitely, it only took us a couple of days to create a new track.
So then we decided to make an album.
Including a new project without management or anything like that.
So we thought let's meet with Q-dance.
To give them a presentation of our plans.
But at one point we needed a name...
so we instantly thought about...
I don't even know who came up with it anymore...
The title Project One.
Inspired by one of the Headhunterz and Wildstylez tracks.
Yes. - That we released earlier.
And that's were it all started. In Amsterdam...
What was that street called again? The Van Diemenstraat.
It really was a project.
From what I can remember...
we came up with the idea because we finished tracks so quickly.
So we started doing the numbers and we came to the conclusion that we could finish an album within three months.
Was Project One actually a kind of working title?
Yes, exactly. I even thought about a possible Project Two one day.
But at one moment, the name Project One got so big...
that it would make no sense. The act is just called Project One.
So that was one of the reasons that we stayed with that name from that moment.
You would release Project One for the very first time at an event in 2008: inQontrol.
But that didn't happen because of something with you, what was that again?
I got an urinary...no wait haha
not an urinary infection.
I got an appendicitis.
I will never forget that.
I was playing in Belgium, the night before inQontrol.
And I had a gig in Belgium. Joram joined me that night.
And I...
I was performing while suddenly feeling immense pain.
And it got worse and worse.
Until the moment that I was lying on the ground between mixing tracks.
Waiting for the next track while DJ'ing like this.
And you're like 'what's going on?'
And at one moment, I just couldn't go on anymore.
At which point Michael - MC Villain - took over from me.
Playing the decks? - Yes.
And then we went to Joram's place where I slept on the couch.
And somewhere around 5 AM we went to the hospital.
I was suffering from appendicitis so I immediately had to go in surgery.
I remember waking up from the narcosis
I immediately asked if I could still perform, but the doctors wouldn't let me unfortunately.
Makes sense - So we had to skip inQontrol
It was just so bizarre.
Because you've been waiting so long for that moment
And in my 12 year long career as a DJ...
I've almost never skipped a gig.
But did it have any negative consequences? Because after that, Project One made its debut at...?
Defqon - Yes, at Defqon.
Also not a bad place to start.
No true, in the end everything comes together.
It just had to be like this and it's a fun thing that shaped the story of Project One.
Such a moment becomes a great memory.
What's your first Project One studio memory Joram?
What's the very first thing you really created together as Project One?
I'm thinking about what the very first Project One track is that we created.
Of course we already had Blame It On The Music and the track Project One...
I know which track it was.
Art of Creation?
Life Beyond Earth.
Oh yes, that's true. Life Beyond Earth was the first one.
Did it go just as before, easily creating tracks when you two got together?
Yes definitely. Back in the days, Willem and I practically lived together.
When we were in the studio, I always slept at his place in the beautiful village of Zaandam.
Which immensely annoyed your girlfriend.
No she didn't like that?
And when I was home, Willem was always there too sleeping on the couch.
So when your girlfriend came downstairs in the morning grabbing something to eat, Willem was always there?
Yes Willem was always there haha
As I said, we were practically living together back then.
And it really was like...
We went to the studio until 7 in the morning
Then we went back to his house, driving through the morning rush.
And by the time we woke up, we went back to the studio throug the evening rush.
The funny thing is when you go back in time.
You were 21 or 22 years old, you were 25 years old.
Yesterday I listened to all the Project One tracks.
What was the message you wanted to send?
WIth the Project One album tracks?
Because some lyrics go quite deep...
Sometimes even a bit dark.
Well we tried to add a story to it. Quite spacey indeed.
But music wise...
We just approached every track with a specific idea
But we did got really inspired by people that we were fan of back then.
Can you give some examples?
Showtek...Technoboy...Tuneboy.
At that moment, there weren't a lot of hardstyle albums ever made.
And the idea of creating an album also triggered us to think...
Okay, since this is not a solo release, it gives us the opportunity to experiment in creative ways.
For once, I didn't have to think about that one track that had to be THE hit.
Allowing us to go a little bit deeper.
I remember that I really wanted the album to contain a story.
That it would become something worth listening to.
Not just an album where you would only pick two tracks to listen to.
Something which you quite often do with an album. - Yes.
That's something a lot of people do.
But for a producer, an album is an opportunity...
to really tell a story for once.
And I really hoped that people would be open for that.
And luckily that went really well with the Project One album.
People are really seeing the album as one story.
Creating an album requires a lot of effort.
And you never know if it will be worth it.
If you try to tell a story with fourteen tracks, but only two tracks are getting noticed by the audience
Resulting in the other twelve tracks floating somewhere, slowly disappearing
That can be quite damaging for your ego, while also being a waste of all the effort and time you put into it.
No absolutely. - So it might be more interesting for you guys to release more solo tracks.
But we didn't do it just for the music, but also for the overall feel of the act.
At one moment, we came with the idea to create drawings of ourselves.
This was when we were still releasing vinyls.
Blimey!
And we did around six releases I think. - Yes.
And we let someone make one big drawing
Which was cut into six pieces, so if you had all vinyls then you could create one big drawing.
So you're saying that you both really wanted to tell a story.
But what was that story exactly? What's the story of this album?
With Project One, i wanted to create something that...
makes people think without spilling the beans for them.
And especially with you asking what's the story...
While writing some of these lyrics, I had certain thoughts.
And we wanted to create a certain feeling.
But I think the beauty of the Project One music is that it's sometimes quite unclear what the story is
I really like the fact that it's open for interpretation.
In my opinion, that's what a good track must contain. - Yes.
That you can apply your own experiences.
Starting with you Joram, if you must pick two tracks from the album.
Two tracks that you later will let your grandchildren listen to, because you still think that those are just so amazing.
These are my two absolute favourites - I personally have two tracks that I still listen to quite often.
That's probably Art of Creation - Yes
Art of Creation has played a major role ever since, and now more than ever.
And I think...
Life Beyond Earth.
And for you Willem?
Of course Art of Creation.
That takes pretty long for an album that features so many good tracks haha.
Yes, yes...
I think I'll join Joram on this one.
The Story Unfolds?
Yes also. - Great track, also Halfway There.
All great tracks.
But still...
It's also about how a track evolved, same with The Story Unfolds perhaps.
It also depends on how big of a hit the track was.
And the feeling you get with a certain track due to that.
Music is bound to memories.
Definitely, 100%.
Back to the first performance of Project One at Defqon.1
Alongside all the fuzz
What do you remember of that particular set? How did the crowd react for instance?
Honestly, I must admit that I don't really recall that moment
I was so focused on inQontrol back then
That was the moment.
So Defqon.1 was more like "then we'll just do it there"
There was a huge hype at that moment.
Yes, that was great. But I already noticed that at inQontrol.
I was playing as Wildstylez, but I wasn't extremely popular at that time.
And the announcement was made that Project One was cancelled
And people just left. - No!
Seriously? - Yes...
I'm still traumatised.
Not that surprising, Willem was a big hype back then.
I still am.
Yeah he constantly comes up with something.
He leaves, he returns. What's next you know?
Yes unbelievable, what will be his next move?
But yeah...I actually really don't know anymore.
It rained and it was very crowded.
Well, what I still remember is that there wasn't a lot of space on stage.
Which was quite difficult because you want to show yourself to the audience.
We were completely suited up. - Yes.
But then you're standing there in a tight space with a table in front of you
And you just don't see a lot, there was so little space to move freely.
But in the end, we did find a spot where we could move. Somewhere at the side.
Back then, Q-dance didn't create very impressive stages.
There were plastic barrels standing everywhere, also some sort of pallets.
Which is funny, because the BLUE is a legendary stage.
I believe that the BLUE is mostly RAW nowadays.
But two years before Project One, I performed for the very first time as Headhunterz in the BLUE
And that are some of my best moments at Defqon.1.
You said it yourself, music is bound to memories.
One moment many Project One fans cherish
When you go to YouTube and read the comments you often see comments as "like this if you still watch this in 2018".
Is your performance at Qlimax in 2008.
And we're going to check that out right now.
That was quite a hit - Yes.
Yes definitely.
It's almost as if you're watching something from the last century.
When you look at the people.
Yes really funny. I often think by myself when I watch old footage like this...
What are those people doing with their lives right now?
They are all ten years older right now
Yes they are also around 32 - 35 at the moment.
And they probably don't visit parties anymore.
While we're still going strong haha.
Definitely a moment that people still have good memories of.
At one point, as we take a big leap through time.
A period began where Willem stopped making hardstyle.
That automatically meant the end for Project One.
Was that something you've discussed?
Well I believe that we already officially retired 7 times as Project One before that moment.
But each time there was another party where we said "okay, one last time".
We even came up with the idea to - I believe during your X-Qlusive - that we wanted to burn our jackets.
But why the urge to stop?
The album was of course ground breaking and very succesful.
People considered it even as perhaps one of the most important pieces of music in hardstyle history
You didn't perform a lot, so why the urge to stop?
That had to do with our solo careers, which went really well.
And we wanted it to stay special.
If we would constantly perform as Project One everywhere, people would get tired at one point.
As Project One, we only play Project One tracks. -Yes.
So if there's no new music, you keep on playing the same old set.
That was a good reason for us to keep it exclusive.
So mostly to keep the act exclusive, and to keep it really special when you would perform?
During that time, your solo career also really took off.
And I was going very well so...
After we created the album, we noticed that we needed some time apart.
Definitely after so many hours on Joram's couch.
And a few punches from his girlfriend.
Yes and you know, you just need to move on with doing your own thing.
And we never had the intention to overdo Project One.
Let's put it this way...
We never needed it.
We always had Headhunterz and Wildstylez.
It was never something that we had to do...
for the sake of our own careers.
It was just something awesome and it was really inspiring.
It's also a luxurious position we're in.
We can do Project One whenever we want.
And we don't need to exploit it or whatever.
And I think that would also be a shame if that would happen.
I personally believe, and I think Joram agrees with me, that Project One is something that should remain special.
For special occasions
And a special occasion is coming soon, on October 20.
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