Ok. This is going to be interesting. Hello, this is Sea
Hedgehog, and you're here again on my channel A Jest
in Sober Earnest. And since I can't seem to do 1 thing at
a time, I'm going to answer Athena Fenstermacher's
Spooky Halloween Tag while I cut this out because I
was supposed to do this multiple weeks ago and
instead I didn't.
So what I have here—and I'm going to be cut off—is two
pairs of pants. 1 is from Uniqlo, and the other is from
some company I've never heard of: Zella, and what I'm
trying to do is sew a pair of pants for my sister.
We are similar in circumference for pants, but she is like
6" taller than I am [sarcasm—more like 3"]. So I'm using
the only pair of pants that I have that I know that fit her
are these Zella capri pants, but they're capris, so I'm
using another pair of pants for the length.
So this will be interesting. I think what I'm going to end
up doing is just making them just a little bit too long and
hoping that it works out. So that's what we're doing right
now.
I don't really have a pattern, so we're using these.
Basically the strategy is that you fold the pants in such a
way that you can see what the little pieces look like that
make them up, and then you cut something out and
hope that it's right.
So I think the 1st question in her prompt was "What is
your favorite Halloween song or horror themed song?"
I think if it were Halloween it'd probably be something
like 1 of those Halloween songs that you have to sing in
grade school just because I associate Halloween with
those songs.
I'm trying to think. So 1 of them would probably be the
Monster Mash just because we played that song
nonstop in the car when we were kids.
1 of them would probably also be 1 of the Rocky Horror
Picture Show songs. Like, "Let's Do the Time Warp" or
something like that. I don't think I understood exactly
what that show was when I was younger.
So yeah. I fold—I've got this center crotch seam that I
folded it along for the front. I folded the front of the
pants along the INSEAM here. And then, these pants are
designed a little strange in that they have a little
triangle—I'll show you the piece when I cut it out
because it's really hard to see.
So then you line up whatever it is along the grainline of
the fabric and then I'm going to cut it out with a little bit
of seam allowance. And then for non-Halloween horror-
themed songs…
So I have a couple ones. 1 is this album and I have no
idea how I found it because I am not—my musical
tastes—for perspective, I'm in the Midwest, so my
musical tastes are like folk music, so I'm in no way,
shape, or form one of the—I don't even know what you
call them: people who know about current music.
Hipster? Maybe it's hipter. I think that fits the stereotype.
But somehow I found this album and I think it was from
watching a show. I think it was a French show on Netflix
and they played this song from an artist called Host and
the album is also called Host.
And for whatever reason, it's super impossible for me to
find any information about this artist online. But the
entire album is in minor key, and so it's really creepy and
the song titles are also super emo. They're called—one's
like" Cluster Bombs" and "Fresh Meat," "Hollow Point,"
"Hell is Here," so they're pretty dark.
And the thing I like about the album is there's a really
catchy tune that's very—this is why: I didn't take any
musical classes as a child so I can't describe what I'm
hearing--but even though there is minimal bass, there is
a rhythm to the music that you can keep track of and I
really like to play it while I'm exercising because even
though it's super emo and dark, the tone of the music,
even though it's in minor key is uplifting—that's a very
strange...not happy, but energetic enough that it
motivates me to keep going, even when I feel like I'm going to die.
I'm not particularly fit either, which is a problem. So
that's 1 of them. Another 1 is there is a song called
"Parasites" by San Fermin that's also totally in minor key
and is very discordant. The notes do not particularly go
together very well and so I think it makes it one of the
creepier songs that I listen to because it just—it's a
really interesting song, it's catchy, but it is not pleasant
to listen to, and I think that's why.
Another would be Anaïs Mitchell's—I keep saying her
name wrong—Hadestown Soundtrack. And I think that 1
in particular is horror themed because it's the myth of
Orpheus and Eurydice from Greek myth, but it is set up
in—I don't exactly know. It's either Prohibition or the
Dust Bowl (which barely overlap).
So there's the Robber Baron, Hades, who lives
underground and he employs loads and loads of people
who are out of work because they can't farm, or
whatever, to build a pointless wall, and so the whole
album is these laborers who continue to work. They're
putting their life and their essence into this wall,
because they're probably not going to end up back on
the surface. I think the implication is that they're going
to be buried into this wall that they're building, just
because he's working them to death.
And then, the Orpheus and Eurydice as a myth is very
dark in that the couple does not end up together at the
end. Eurydice dies; Orpheus goes down into the
underworld to rescue her, and he's unable to bring her
back.
And so this folk opera Hadestown takes it's own twist
on that myth, so I don't necessarily spoiling what the
myth is about spoils the album. And I thin it's now a
play.
So creepy songs, but for different reasons.
And then the next prompt was "What would you not
want to run into in the woods or in a haunted house."
I think, in general, the things that scare me in real life--
and I think we had this conversation in another 1 of my
videos, 1 of my Halloween prompts for Halloween
Heartthrob in that things that scare me in real life are
very different from the things that scare me in movies.
In a movie, having a creepy ghost or something would
really really scare me and I'd be screaming, I would run
away--like literally leave the room in the middle of the
movie. I've done that before. I am that awkward person.
But in real life, that's not something that scares me. So I
think in real life the things that I'm afraid of are people.
And I think, as a result, that's why I do like some of the
movie genres that I like and the book genres that I like. I
like crime novels. I think there's something really
terrifying about monsters who are people.
And so I think that is probably more likely what I would
not want to run into in a haunted house or in the woods
at night would be a human being who is not out there
for great reasons.
Ok. So the next prompt is "Have you ever played with a
Ouija board?" And I actually…have I ever played with a
Ouija board? So I haven't.
Ok, so this is what—I was listening to this video last
night, and I knew I would have something weird to say
for this.
How do I want to describe this?
I don't want to take anything away from anybody who
struggles with mental illness—that would never be my
intention, but I do feel like normalcy is a spectrum, and
everyone has behaviors that are slightly weird, slighty
strange, and mine happens to be that I feel sometimes
compelled to do things that are very repetitive.
If I hear about a superstition, I don't necessarily ascribe
to the superstition, but I feel the need to fill it out. So a
good example is the knock on wood superstition. So it's
really hard for me to not knock on wood in patterns of 3,
which seems really dumb, but it's sort of like, if you think
of double negatives, the first one is a yes, the second
one undoes it, like a no, and then the third one does it
again, in three sets of three, so nine times.
So knock on wood-k knock on wood-knock on wood.
And then I'd feel like I hadn't done it adequately, and so
I'd do it again, in three, and then I'd do it again in three.
And another 1 is turning off the stove and closing the
door. And so, I think I must check the door, as I'm
getting ready, like 5 times, and I know I've locked it, but
I'm unsure as to whether or not I've locked it.
So then I feel like I have to go back and check it and
make sure it's actually locked. That's super dumb.
Another one is—I said: turn off the oven. So I will check
to make sure the oven is off multiple times, even though
I know it's off.
And so there are certain things that I refuse to get
involved with because I'm afraid it's going to start
something where I will have a new thing that I'm
obsessed with and I know that that's not productive and
not helpful and not useful.
So I just avoid it entirely, and I think Ouija boards would
be one of those things. It's not like I feel like I'm going to
anger a ghost or something, but because it exists, I will
feel the need to have some sort of weird repetitive
behavior associated with it.
And so, yeah. I am slightly afraid of Ouija boards for that
reason. Which is really dumb, but, yeah.
So again, I don't want to minimize anybody who actually
has OCD and has it really affect their life, but that's the
best metaphor that I have to talk about what's going on.
"Do I have a favorite horror monster or villain?"
Ok. So I think my favorite horror monster or villain—I
don't know that it's considered horror—I think—and this
is kind of a weird 1 to say because I'm not terribly a fan
of the director and I'm not terrible a fan of the movie,
but I thought that the evil in Cabin in the Woods was
kind of an interesting concept, although I feel like it was
poorly described and planned out.
It made for a very interesting villain in that it was a
collaboration between an ancient magical entity and the
US government, but there were a lot of inconsistencies
that were kind of glossed over to enable—I don't
know—a more violent or exciting storyline.
But I thought that was an interesting concept and I do
kind of like villains or monsters where there's a greater
philosophical issue that you have to consider when you
consider the character. So villains that make you think
instead of villains that are unquestionably bad.
I think that's a far more interesting concept, especially
because, as I've said in some other videos, I'm not
particularly religious, and so I think that it's very realistic
to explore evil in the world that is not due to
supernatural or magical beings and is due to people. So,
the monsters in humans instead of the monsters with
forked tails and cloaks of darkness.
And I think that type of villain that is not normally
featured in pop culture because it requires a sort of
internal consideration or coming to terms with your
place within a species that can be so harmful to one
another.
Because in a certain sense, because we are human, we
are in some way either equally capable or culpable in
the actions of our peers. I think it's more clearly seen
with humanity's affects on the environment, endangered
species, global warming, whatever. But you could also
think about it in the context of supporting leaders or
governments that have toxic ideas that you don't
[personally] support and to what extent does your
support of that system is like a tacit approval of what's
going on.
Kind of deep. Sorry.
Ok. The creepiest thing that's ever happened to me
while I'm alone. I'm trying to think. So, over the
summer—this was kind of creepy—so, when you're
caring for cells. Cells that grow in a dish require
someone to feed them because they don't have a
circulatory system. And I think what's actually more
problematic is that they don't have a way of getting the
byproducts of metabolism—so like carbon dioxide and
cr*p—away.
So the cells get very angry, and depending upon what
cell line you work with, some of them can be more
temperamental than others. So over the summer I was
working with skin fibroblasts and so that basically
means that they were cells that were taken from a
person—I mean, skin fibroblasts don't have to be this;
they can be taken from a rat or something.
But these were skin fibroblasts that were taken by a
person and you grow them in the lab and the idea is that
it allows you to study how the person might act to a
certain medicine or treatment or whatever [at the
cellular level] or situation without using the person, so
it's considered more humane—because they're cells and
not people.
Yeah—if that wasn't clear. I think that was probably
pretty obvious: sorry!
And so that is all just a preface to say that these are
particularly temperamental cells because they're from
humans and they're used to being in humans, and
they're used to having this nice environment.
And so, as a result of that, I have to come in on the
weekends. And so, I came in on the weekend to feed my
cells. I gowned up because they cells are human cells,
which means that humans can infect them. Once you go
in, you don't leave the room, you don't exchange
anything with the outside, you replace the media—the
cell food.
So I'm in there; I'm in the zone: I have 4 or 5 dishes that
I'm working with, two at a time. And I hear movement
outside of the door, which is really creepy because I've
been in there for hours and it's been totally silent and
when I went in, the whole floor was empty.
And you know when you're in the zone, you're not really
considering that there might be other people—it just
doesn't occur to you even that other people might be
there?
It ended up being another 1 of my lab members who
was just out chilling, doing some computer work,
randomly, at 10 or 11am on a Sunday morning.
I've had weird things happen to me. Like one time my
sister, my mom and I—I was home from college—and we
sit down, and we start eating dinner and I realize there's
a van parked outside of the window—like right up…we
live on a corner street, but the van was like in our front
yard.
And it'd been hanging there for maybe 15 minutes. So I
looked over and then I'd not thought anything of it, but
then when I looked back to—I don't know, get
something off the kitchen table and it was still there.
So I'm paying more attention to this van, and all the
sudden this man gets out and he's middle aged, he's got
salt and pepper hair, he's kind of balding, and he's
fiddling around in the front seat, and then he's fiddling
around in the back seat.
And then I look away and look back and he's totally
nude. Well, he's not totally nude. He took off his pants.
And I'm like "What?" It's one of those things where it
doesn't initially process.
Like what's happening is so strange that it would never
occur to you that it's actually happening. And so you're
like, "Surely not." And then he takes his shirt off, and I'm
like, "What?"
He's in his tighty whities and then he just starts getting
dressed in our front yard. So he's using his van as a
shield for the traffic, but mooning us. It was very
strange.
And so he proceeded to put on a suit and a shirt and a
suit jacket and a tie and then walk into the house across
the street. What?
So the next question is are you superstitious, and we
sort of had this conversation. I really try hard not to pay
attention to walking on cracks, because once it starts, it
becomes this thing where I can't walk normally [it's
more of a perfection thing than a superstition thing].
You give your mind other things to think about because
clearly, it can't think rationally or reasonably about
something.
Sometimes I think I come across as being extremely
dismissive of superstitions, because when other people
talk about them, I just really don't want to hear it,
because I can't let it become a Thing.
I mean, sometimes it's because I don't believe in them.
Like when people are like "I can't get vaccinated
because then I'll get autism." That one I'm dismissive
of—it's not even really a superstition—well, I mean. Eh. I
don't know
That one I'm dismissive of because it genuinely kills
people. I don't really care whether you feel the need to
not walk on cracks. I don't really care whether you don't
want black cats to walk in front of you. I don't really care
if you feel the need to not walk under ladders.
It doesn't affect me; I don't actually care.
I think actually having cats has been really helpful to me
because I wouldn't touch doors because I was afraid of
the germs, and I didn't like touching other people's
hands because they might be germy. And it wasn't even
really that I was afraid of being sick, I just didn't want
the germs.
But cats, they put their butts on everything, so it feels
like it desensitizes me to the fact that everything is
germy.
Ok. So the next one is, "Do you ever see figures in your
peripheral vision?"
How do I want to say this? Yes, I do occasionally see
figures in my peripheral vision, but I have learned not to
trust them because my vision is so bad.
A lot of the things that I think I see either 1) aren't there
or 2) they're something stupid like a cat or a blanket and
I can't see it
"Which urban legend scares you the most?"
The 1 urban legend that I know [a lot] about is
Mothman, and the Grinning Man, who is his partner in
crime. There's actually a film made about this creature
called "The Mothman Indrid Cold," but in the original
story, Indrid Cold is the Grinning Man and he's not
actually the Mothman. It's a Midwestern cryptid. So
yeah, I'm a fan of Mothman.
Ok! "Do you believe in multiple dimensions or worlds?"
I think, and I think Athena said this as well. I'm open to
the possibility that it exists.
Ok, so the next question is, "Have you ever made a
potion?" I have not made a potion, but my sister has
made a "Concoction."
She went through this period when she was younger
where my parents wanted to encourage her interest in
cooking because they thought she might become a
professional cook.
And she would make these things and then my parents
would make me eat them to support her. So she made
this thing this 1 time, and she made other things that
were equally horrible and I don't know specifically why
this 1 stuck in my memory.
But she made this thing and it was in this little 8"X8"
baking pan, and it was Teddy Grahams, egg, cinnamon,
and you're like, "Ehhh, that could be tolerable," and then
she added, I want to say like 3 tablespoons of
salt. Just salt. And then she sort of stirred it, but not
really, and then she stuck it in the oven and baked it, so
what resulted was mushy Teddy Grahams and this
omelette consistency.
And my parents were like, "Oh, this is so good! Yum!"
And my favorite memory is we were driving home from
school, and my next door neighbors had picked us up
because they would alternate. And she [my sister] was
talking about how much we loved this food, and I didn't
know it, but the neighbor actually asked my mom about
it because she was like, "Sea Hedgehog's sister thinks
that you love her food so much and I'm just in awe of
your parenting skills because you tolerate all this cr*p
and it's nasty.
So I have never made a potion, but rather, I have been
subjected, multiple times, to some sort of potion. It's
unclear what it did exactly.
So the next question is, "Do you believe in demons or
the devil?" No. Yeah, sorry; I don't believe in demons or
the devil. Several significant religions in the United
States have had horrible sex abuse cases. I can think of
four right now.
In my perspective, there's a great evil in humanity.
People suck. And I think it becomes more hypocritical
and, perhaps unfortunately, even though this shouldn't
be the case, more shocking when it occurs in circles of
religion and faith because these people are supposed to
be mouthpieces for the gods that their followers believe
in.
And when you read the transcripts of these court cases,
it really becomes evident that people can be demons
and kind of devilish. The longer I live on this earth, the
more and more convinced I become that it's people that
are sh*tty.
There's nothing else that should be used or should be
allowed to be an excuse for someone's terrible behavior.
That is their fault.
They were not possessed by a demon; they were not led
down the wrong path: they chose their path, and despite
twinges of any morality that they might have or
opposition that they met down that path, they doggedly
continued to pursue it. And so that is evidence that they
s*ck.
"So you're home alone, and you hear footsteps in your
house: what do you do?"
So I was really in awe of Athena here. Her first thought
is a weapon. My first thought is I'm going to get myself
injured or shot. So I need to find a door with a lock,
preferably a deadbolt, and then I'm on the phone to 911
[emergency services and the police].
That's not an option for everyone. I never have to
balance the police shooting me versus an armed
invader in my apartment. Like, the police is always the
better option [for me].
"If you got trapped in a scary movie, what would you choose?"
My cat's are fighting in the background if you can see.
I think the problem with this is I don't watch very many
scary movies. I think there are a lot of horror movies that
I've watched with friends where I wanted there to be
somebody in the movie that was just yelling, "What the
heck are you guys doing?"
And I understand that when you're in a situation that's
scary, it's hard to act rationally, and I don't necessarily
think that I would be better in that situation, but it
doesn't make the better choice less evident when you're
watching it, even if you can understand the emotional
state that somebody might be in.
Oh, you know what? So this movie is kind of campy, and
the point was supposed to be campy. There's this horror
film--"Horror" film—on Netflix called "Zombeavers."
And it is about a zombie apocalypse, except the virus
that turns you into a "zombie" is from beavers. So in the
process of becoming a beaver-zombie, you grow beaver
teeth and a beaver tail. And it's genuinely terrifying at
some parts but also hilarious.
And they have their own theme song at the end, so I
think I would want to be in that movie
I don't know what I would be doing.
"If you could only wear 1 Halloween costume for the
rest of your life, what would you be?"
So I have this dream, and it was inspired by a drag
queen's costume, and I'll admit, beforehand, I hadn't
thought of it. So I have this predilection for being people
or things which are ginger for Halloween. I need
everything about it.
So not only was this drag queen Mrs. Frizzle from the
Magic School Bus, but they were space Mrs. Frizzle. But
they had the Mrs. Frizzle purple shirtdress with the
green collar and the lizard and this crazy updo.
But then they had this hat thing that had all of the
planets on it that rotated. And I think there's an aspect
of me that likes to wear costumes that are slightly
either absurd or impractical, so it pleases me to
consider walking around with this massive headgear
that keeps everyone at a certain distance from my head
or they risk running into Saturn.
Would you ever go to a graveyard at night? I actually did
this really cool graveyard/haunted house tour in
Williamsburg and they had people dressed up like the
ghosts who would tell their story and the mythos
surrounding them, which was really cool.
So you got a little bit of the history. Yeah, no. I totally
would do that. I do like it though when you get a little bit
of the context of who's actually buried there.
"Would you rather go to a Halloween party or Trick or
Treating?
So my street did something interesting with Halloween
and it was because a lot of the families on the street,
their kids were older. So they do the normal trick or
treating, but it was also just families walking down the
street just to sit and chat with one another, and I
thought that was really cool.
I'm not really a party person, so I do prefer trick or
treating or leading around people trick or treating or
being there to give the candy to the people that are trick
or treating.
So the question is, "In a horror film, would you be the
first to die, the last girl, the comic relief, the skeptic, the
smart one, or the killer?"
And I would like to think I'd be the smart one, but I would
probably be the first to die because I have no life skills
that would translate well to an apocalypse or a
dangerous situation like that. So that's my answer to
that question.
"When watching scary movies, are you the one that has
their eyes closed the whole time, the one that falls
asleep, or the one that yells at all of the characters?" I
am none of the above. I am the one who screams,
bloodcurdlingly, because, for whatever reason, I react
more strongly to horror movies than anything else.
"Are you the one that gets scared or the one who does
the scaring?" It depends on the context and I think I said
this on the other Halloween tag video. But if it's real life,
I'm usually not the one that gets scared; if it's movies,
I'm always terrified. Although I don't do a lot of the
scaring, so perhaps by default I am the one that gets
scared.
Favorite scary book. Ok, so this isn't a scary book—I like
the idea, and it's actually echoed in a lot of books. I
haven't read a scary book in the sense of horror film or
something in a while. I did read The Girl With the Dragon
Tattoo series.
But a really interesting and compelling type of story that
I encountered as a kid is this idea of—it's not really
multiple dimensions, but it's of different historical
periods or moments in time or places in time where you
can communicate with others through the veil.
So, one such book is called The Riddles of Epsilon,
another is called Triskellion, another is called I think—oh,
gosh, what is it called?—the middle book is called The
Summer King, I forget what the first one is called
[Hunter's Moon], and then another one is called, I think,
The Secret of Moonacre. And that one actually had a
movie made out of it, and that one is for children that
are significantly younger than the others.
But the ongoing thread through all of those books is
that there was a relationship between two people, and
they might be in the same time period, but in two
different locations, or they might be, one is an ancestor
and the other is a descendant of the other, or they might
just be separated between time and space.
But somehow their realities become close together, and
they're able to pass messages to one another.
So it's particularly creepy in Riddles of Epsilon because
the story takes place between the Victorian Era and the
90s when the book was initially published, but the
drama of the book is cyclic.
So it begins in the 1990s and then she drops a key or a
stone or something, she sets it down in this beach
house, and it's picked up in the Victorian Era by a boy
who is then able to unlock the secret of what's
happening to his mother, and his diary pages get stored
in a desk that is then opened in the 90s by this girl who
realizes that her own mother is going through the same
thing.
And so it's weird because none of these people directly
communicate with one another and yet the things that
they touch become exchanged through their connection.
The history that they're doomed to repeat. That's
another theme in The Riddles of Epsilon is both the boy
in the Victorian Era and the girl in the 90s, their mother's
have this script, almost, that they follow in their
behavior, like they both start going out to the sea, they
both start looking for shells, they end up being
manipulated by a malevolent entity, and there's a
moment in that book where they take the metaphor and
spell it out for you, and I think the reason they do that
for you is because it's a children's book.
And so there's this scene where the mother in the 90s
looks back, and there's a line—so she's walking and
looking for this shell that's consumed her life every day
since she ended up on this island and there's another
woman behind her, but her clothing is not present day
clothing; she looks back and it's clothing from the
1940s, and she looks back and there's a [third] woman
behind her also looking for shells as well with clothing
from the 1920s, and then she [1920s woman] looks
back and there's another woman behind her who's
wearing clothing from the Victorian Era.
You can see what they're spelling out explicitly, but
every generation of this family has been trapped in this
curse. And I see it as a metaphor for being bound by the
mistakes of your ancestors.
There's another book called Ghost Ship which takes the
same idea and the mythos surrounding [the concept] of
the Ghost Ship just in general kind of supports it. It's
this idea that there's a crime that's committed out at sea
and as punishment, the god or gods sinks your ship,
kills everyone on board and you are bound in Purgatory
to re-enact the circumstances/cause of your eternal
punishment.
So, in the book, they murder, violently, an African
American crewman on the ship who was a former slave,
and the ship goes under, and every night, they're
doomed to re-enact the terror that they put this
African American crewman through.
And people from present day go onto the ship that's
being reconstructed to be put into a museum and they
watch these crewmembers re-enact the story where
they already know what's going to happen next, but they
can't break free of the script.
And I think it's sort of a metaphor for abuse in that it
[abuse] is hereditary but not genetic—and I'm using
these words slightly more metaphorically than they're
intended to be used—but the idea is that one of the
greatest predictors of being an abuser is the abuser
being abused themselves
In the Secrets of Moonacre, it's a guy and a girl, a young
boy and a girl, who are separated by distance, and
they're able to communicate with one another, like
they're childhood friends, and they both think that the
other lives in the house next door or the village next
door, and then it ends up that they lived on totally
different sides of the world from one another.
I think that's a really interesting concept and one that
you might see that I've picked up and put into my story
with BJDs. I like the idea of interconnectedness. It's also
in—which I also read—the Cloud Atlas.
"What was your 1st Halloween costume?" So my 1st
Halloween costume was a pumpkin. Yeah. It's pretty on
the nose. But yeah. That was my 1st Halloween
costume.
I thought it was interesting that both Athena and I were
both vegetables for our first Halloween.
"What are you going to be this year for Halloween?" I
don't know if I'm going to be anything for Halloween this
year—I haven't started.
"If you could have a spooky Halloween pet, a cat, a bat,
a [something], or a wolf—sorry—what would you pick?" I
literally listen to the prompt and then immediately forget
it—it's gone.
You're going to have to watch her video for all of the
prompts.
I mean, clearly I would have to choose a black cat
because I already have a black cat. I mean, this one has
marked me with explosive diarrhea, so how could I
choose anyone else?"
Um, let me show you what I've cut out, since we're here.
So I talked about how this pattern was kind of
interesting. So it's a pair of pants, but see how it has this
weird corner in here. So normally, it would go in right
here for the top of the pants, but instead it goes out to a
little point. And it's because this wraps around to the
back. Unclear why. Interesting.
Here's the back. You will also notice, perhaps, that this
crotch is longer than it is in the front, and they're
normally that way, but not quite this much, and it's
because it has a little piece that's sewn in here, a little
gore to prevent the camel toe.
And then it has a separate doubled up waistband. Here's
the back—I actually think that's the front that goes to the
back--and here's the front. So that's 1.
And then all I wanted from this was a shirt. So I have a
sleeve, and I have the front and back of a shirt, and it's
modeled after this one. So I did it. Oh, and I have a little
pocket to be sewn. Perfect! Just what we wanted! Yay!
This was long. Sorry! Bye!


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