you are now listening to the IELTS podcast learn from tutors and ex-examiners who are
masters of IELTS preparation your host, Ben Worthington hello there, IELTS podcast listeners
in this episode, Vera shares how she passed first time, her preparation strategies, and
where she got all her listening tests remember she did about a hundred, almost a hundred
listening tests okay this is a great interview and thanks for listening so Vera can I ask
you how did you prepare for the other parts of the exam, like the listening, the reading,
and speaking?
okay so first, I you know, I did -- I took some tests I mean, mock tests myself I mean
not in some you know, in some schools and I understood that I would have -- that listening
and writing parts you know, were the most difficult for me and then I focused on writing
and listening and on the listening, it's kind of weird, but actually I have problems with
listening even in my native language because sometimes I cannot catch the meaning of songs
in Russian even, and that is why I'm not really attentive and I'm sorry so that is why it
was my weak point and I needed to practice a lot and actually, I tried to yesterday,
I tried to count how many listenings I had done before the test, and I think I had done
almost maybe 100 actually, yes, right just yes and it was crazy because you know before
okay maybe in okay, in -- I'm just counting in April, May, June, and July, I did at least
one or two tests per day and then in August, actually I took two weeks off I took a vacation
and you know, I dedicated two weeks only to preparations I prepared just 24 to 7 and maybe
and I did maybe five or six listenings per day wow I know that it's kind of crazy but
still I need it and it's crazy it was crazy actually I don't advice to do that because
after the tests actually I had some ear issues because of the headphones I had some you know,
sore ears I can say wow you know, I like to go to the extremes it's just like you know,
personality okay and then so and I was happy and you know the funny thing was when I went
just – the test was finished the written part I called my husband and said that you
know, I screwed up the listening part I was sure that I screwed it up because they didn't
have the headphones they had the speakers and the speakers were only on one wall oh
just only on one side yeah and actually in one part of the listening, as you know it
consists of two parts and in the third part I just completely -- also the voice of the
speaker it was kind of loud and you know and it had you know some echo and that is why
I wasn't sure I wasn't sure in that part but still I got 8 and I was lucky to have wow,
that's an awesome score, that's an awesome score thank you yeah well done and actually
– and you completely deserve it because like a test a day for two months and then
you upped it up to five or six tests a day that is amazing that's pure dedication but
I love the perspective that you brought to this because it's like okay I'm taking – use
my two weeks holiday, and I'm going to lose these two weeks, but in the long term, in
the big picture of things if this gets me to Canada then two weeks is nothing you know,
if I can get to Canada in two weeks, it's absolutely nothing in the big, in the grand
scale of things so yeah very, very smart there Vera very smart yeah, yeah and actually for
speaking preparation as for writing of course I participated in your brilliant course and
yesterday, I threw all my you know, rough drafts and I counted them I nearly had written
nearly I think maybe 50 or 60 essays wow yeah, I was shocked myself just you know, writing
every day, at least I tried to write and then also as for speaking and reading actually
I did -- I didn't think that it was hard for me and I think that was kind of my mistake
or maybe not because I didn't get you know, the highest score for them I scored 7.5 both
for speaking and reading and I think that this reading it was something I don't know
I don't know how I managed to screw that up because I was preparing with academic tests
like you know, however I needed general I took general the general test but there are
more academic just materials right yeah yeah and I used to you know score at least 8 at
least 8, but I don't know what happened on the test maybe I was anxious maybe nervous
I don't know and as for speaking also actually I'm not very satisfied with my speaking because
I think that I could do better but okay I got you know, I think the problem with speaking
was just that I might – the topic the cue card was not really you know, great for me
and I just – but what's the cue card?
Oh it was about animals it was about something could you list -- it's something about an
interesting animal I don't know when I got that card I was really confused because interesting
animal, interesting, the word combination was for me a little bit weird because there
you know, and the funny thing was that before the test, I had prepared for the reading part
and I read, had read a text about fireflies and I don't know why on the test I decided
that it would be a great idea to tell them about the fireflies I don't know why which
is I think so it was very weird though it was a disaster the question that yeah which
is such a disastrous thing and I know it's like I should – it sounds like it – it
sounds like a logical strategy you've just read all this information about fireflies
and then they asked you to talk about an interesting animal but why didn't it work out? were you
not just that interested? did you not have enough material to talk about?
I don't know I felt that the examiner stopped me just long before two minutes passed and
I don't know I just I felt it felt like I didn't speak for two minutes I don't know
why actually now it's still a mystery for me you know and you know before because before
the test, of course I also you know prepared for the speaking part I booked a few lessons
with different teachers on my TOEFL I think I'm not going to promote it here but still
it's still with you if you're lucky so let's – there's plenty okay and one
of the teachers told me that I could score even 8.5 that my -- that I speak well that
I had that I have good pronunciation and good you know, I'm understandable, I'm capable
to speak at length I have a good vocabulary I was you know, I was really so encouraged
but what – I don't know I hope that I speak well because I enjoy speaking English
so and that is why so I don't know what went wrong but okay but I have a suspicion and
I have a suspicion that if you went back to the exam and did it again, maybe in a week's
time or even like maybe in a couple of weeks and you do another listening test, another
reading test, another writing, you know, and sort of like warm back up again, I think this
time if you did it well, the second time, if you do when you do it again, that now you're
more familiar with the exam you know and your -- it won't be as nerve-racking because you'll
be more familiar with the settings, you'll be more confident I think if you were willing
to do it again, you would probably see slightly better marks I imagine, I imagine, but it's
a lot of money just to you know for maybe a half -- half a grade, half a band score
increase so yeah but fortunately you've fulfilled your goal anyway you passed everything
first time no, is that right?
yeah, yeah it was my first time yeah actually it wasn't thank you you know actually I'm
not -- for me money I cannot say that it's not important of course, it's important but
for me the main concern you know when if we just you know considering the second attempt,
for me, my health is more important because you know when the exam started, I could hear
my heart beat louder than their text you know actually I thought that I would have a heart
attack like I said earlier so this is wise for me and my husband he said that okay please
don't because you know now in express entry we just -- we don't have you know the highest
-- the highest score and that is why he decided to seek the exam in order to get some additional
you know points wow and yeah, and now I'm learning French also to maybe seek TEF so
I'm not sure just but still you know, I've always wanted to learn French because I can
see that you know it's very beautiful and all that stuff so it is why IELTS is you know
re-seeking IELTS is not an option for me actually if anything but it the last thing that I would
consider to do in order to you know -- to increase my point got you okay okay in express
entry okay I'm sure you know and to a kind of I'm get -- I get anxious very easily yeah
yeah -- you have – emotional – you have a lot of -- I think I have similar traits
like if I do something I go in for 100% and I get obsessed with it – yes and then I
do it and then I walk away and I don't want to see it again for another two months or
so yes yeah that's -- I think you – weren't you born in June?
No?
Sorry?
Weren't you born in June?
I think that Gemini they have and then it be –ah okay no, no, no I was born in February
is it – okay – yeah, yeah and they say that is the trait of my – of Gemini that
we are just – and get obsessed when I like something, when I need something, I can just
you know, get isolated from the other words as you say and get obsessed with the idea
and nobody -- I even can't speak to people you know sometimes I'm just you know I look
at them and then just to – okay yeah, well me and my friends we got a -- we call it something
we don't relate it to Gemini but we call it shiny object, shiny objects syndrome where
you see like a shiny object and you've just got to go over there and everything else becomes
irrelevant and it was so obvious the other the day, we were on the bikes with my friend
and then I saw this tree and it was just full of apples and I just jumped off the bike and
I was like, apples I'm like and I say this kind of just drop everything, and just go
for the what obviously -- whatever you know, whatever the shiny object is or whatever's
taking my interest, but we're getting – again, we're going a bit off topic we're distracted
by shiny objects but what I wanted to say was regarding the listening test, that's it
where did you get a hundred listening exams from? which is like -- oh I'm sorry but I
used YouTube there are many channels right okay, okay yeah they post you know, videos
every day and I should admit that some parts they come compiled the media of different
you know, from different books and sometimes you come across the parts that you had done
before but still that's okay because you cannot remember every single detail and then later
also you know, amenable and it's okay I think so YouTube is the source and it helped
me a lot okay cool yeah and of course, and of course I've worked through all the Cambridge
books all the 13 books wow okay and so that was very – made it so maybe a month and
then I had to buy something else just on a mission though, just on a mission right ah
yeah okay I could just imagine I need IELTS materials ah okay all right but you know when
you really – I want to you know to assure everybody that when you really want something,
and when you really need something, you will find the way definitely that's true you
will find the sources, you will find the people, and sometimes you know I believe in that law
of attraction when you just believe in something and usually the funny thing is that you know,
you have to visualize this you say also they – your success, in order to be successful
in the future and when I was listening to your podcasts and some interviews, I used
to think okay when I pass the exam maybe I will do this thing really in this world of
course you know, I – there are such books one of my favorite books is written by Richard
Bach, and it's called something like illusions or something it's about the Messiah a very
cool book and he says in that book a character says that in order to attract something into
your life you should imagine something passionately that you really want it in every little detail
so this is why I didn't manage to you know to imagine a certificate it wasn't trying
the you know, something that I – okay eager speakers okay it – there wasn't much behind
those but I imagined the communication with you you know, the way I could be useful for
your for your students and that motivated me also so wow that is amazing – it is fun
yeah, that's amazing it's so inspiring as well that's fantastic and you may be surprised
but there's another student who did it a few like about a year ago now or two years ago
and he says yeah I think his name is Kevin it's just like yeah, I just imagined myself
being on this podcast and yeah sharing with the other students how I did it and it's wow
that's really inspiring and I love the way that you adopted this visualization because
a lot of people they find it quite hard to do you know and they find it quite hard to
believe but I used it and I've used it in the past, and I'm currently using it for something
else and yeah, also while we're on the topic, I mean I find that the visualization works
better with meditation and meditation using an app for the meditation that's really helpful
as well as I mentioned I get distracted easily with the shiny objects syndrome so having
the ability to sit down and focus on doing something is an absolute asset and meditation
helps me with that so yeah okay so Vera, just before we finish because I have to finish
in a few minutes okay do you have anything that you would actually tell us the result
what you got for the writing because I think we've mentioned all the results except for
writing okay okay I've got 7 7?
I got 7 for my writing 7 yeah super okay thank you and it was 7.5 for the speaking, 7.5 for
reading and 8 for the listening?
Yeah awesome well done, Vera well done with those scores thank you fantastic so before
we finish, what would you say to anybody who is on the fence and who hasn't decided about
joining the course what would you say to those people?
I would say to them that if they struggle you know they should okay it's not the right
word you should I think that you would find it useful for you if you struggle with the
structure and with you know with the ideas almost the main component of a successful
essay actually I was -- I could say that at the beginning, I was also very you know, skeptical
yeah about the idea of an online course to be effective and all that stuff also some
people okay let's face the music they're afraid of frauds okay on the internet on the
internet and I can say that I'm 100% you know not interested and not decided in the you
know in this course and I'm just -- I found it really helpful and I think that if you
participate in that and if you really you know the other important thing that not – there
are no teachers in the world who would you know who would make you successful it's your
effort, it's your work that can make you successful and I think that this course is designed really
smart and it can provide you with that valuable information in order to be successful and
also I should say that it doesn't teach you how to speak English I mean some basic grammar,
some basic rules, some vocabulary you should already have some -- you should already have
a good command of English at least like intermediate level and in order to you know to be successful
let's be frank okay yeah but still this course needs you know, structurizes your knowledge
and gives you the structure, gives you the structure I mean the most important thing
here and combined with you hard work, with your desire to you know, to be successful
I think it will work yeah it's my own opinion I would totally, totally agree with you there
like if you're coming in with a band 5 and you take the course thinking you're going
to walk out with a band 7, it's probably not going to happen you know it's probably
not going to happen yeah however, if you if you come in and as you say, you've got a good
control of the English language maybe a half a band off your score or maybe a full band
and you're willing to put in a lot of work but the onus is on you you can't buy the
course and just sit at home watching Netflix you know it's not going to happen you're still
going to have the same grade as before you do need to buy the course, do the work, do
the exercises, follow the modules and as you said if you put the effort in, there's going
to be you will get the -- you will get the results yeah, I totally I totally agree with
you there Vera and I'd just like to say to all the listeners, 100 listening exams
that is outrageous, it's awesome nearly, nearly okay nearly approximately approximately I
mean, maybe you know, 99 maybe not 100 99 99 that's pathetic that's pathetic Vera
I was so disappointed I thought you were a winner I'd get a badge on this okay that
is awesome it just shows the level of determination and as I said before okay right perspective
you know the perspective, putting in all the work in these three or four months now to
reap the benefits in the future you know to get yes to your goals and also can I just
-- the last remark for me you know I'm a working mom with a toddler and so that is why if you
don't have children, if you just come home after your work and just you have all the
time just for yourself you have no excuse oh gosh yes you know I like that so this is
why yeah, I think that also so there's everything – go ahead sorry, everything was what?
Everything is possible when we are dedicated and when you just know that every day's part
is just every day matters every day matters you should do a bit every day that matters
really you should be consistent with your studies absolutely, absolutely that's a
really good advice there Vera okay so thank you so much you've been a massive inspiration
for all the listeners and for myself thank you really really just listening to you and
just yeah hearing your situation, your goals, and I'm getting reminded about the power
of visualization and just the motivation it's yeah, it's really inspiring you should be
very proud of yourself and yeah never forget all the work you put in for this Vera it's
awesome thank you very much very impressive okay thank you I would like to say thank you
for your genius I think it wouldn't be just something you know pathetic to say you're
genius I think that is brilliant just your course and I think that you -- it's worth
participating in so thank you thank you, Ben you're welcome, Vera you're welcome and just
one last thing to the listeners why not set this as a goal to pass IELTS to get the band,
your target band score and come and join us on the call maybe we could have all three
of us Vera again and that's not – thanks for listening to ieltspodcast.com

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