A NEW REPORT FROM SHANE HARRIS AT THE WALL STREET
JOURNAL INDICATES THAT THERE IS A VERY CLEAR THAI BETWEEN
RUSSIAN HACKERS AND MICHAEL FLYNN.
OF COURSE WHEN STORIES
LIKE THIS, PEOPLE ROLL THEIR EYES BECAUSE THE RUSSIA STORY
HAS BEEN A SLOW AND STEADY DRIP OF SOME EVIDENCE BUT NOTHING TOO
CLEAR OR AT LEAST CLEAR ENOUGH.
HOWEVER, THIS REPORT DOES SHOW A
CLEAR THAI AND I AM GOING TO WALK YOU THROUGH IT.
HE HAS TO
DO WITH PETER W SMITH.
HE IS A REPUBLICAN OPPOSITION RESEARCHER
AND APPARENTLY HE WAS VERY MUCH IN FAVOR OF GETTING HIS HANDS ON
HILLARY'S EMAILS AND HE WAS UNDER THE ASSUMPTION THAT
RUSSIAN HACKERS CLOSE TO THE RUSSIAN GOVERNMENT WERE LIKELY
TO HAVE THOSE EMAILS AND SO HE SPRANG INTO ACTION.
HIS PROJECT
BEGAN OVER LABOR DAY WEEKEND OF 2016 WHEN MR.
SMITH, A
PRIVATE ENTITY EXECUTIVE FROM CHICAGO ACTIVE IN REPUBLICAN
POLITICS, SAID HE ASSEMBLED A GROUP OF TECHNOLOGY EXPERTS,
LAWYERS AND A RUSSIAN-SPEAKING INVESTIGATOR BASED IN EUROPE TO
ACQUIRE EMAILS THE GROUP THEORIZED MIGHT'VE BEEN STOLEN
FROM THE PRIVATE SERVER IS GOING USED AS SECRETARY OF STATE.
THE WALL STREET JOURNAL CONTINUES THAT THE OPERATION
MR.
SMITH DESCRIBED IS CONSISTENT WITH INFORMATION THAT
HAS BEEN EXAMINED BY US INVESTIGATORS INTO ELECTIONS.
INVESTIGATORS HAVE EXAMINED REPORTS FROM INTELLIGENCE
AGENCIES THAT DESCRIBE RUSSIAN HACKERS DISCUSSING HOW TO OBTAIN
EMAILS FROM MRS.
CLINTON SERVICE AND THEN TRANSMIT THEM TO MR.
FLYNN VIA AN INTERMEDIARY, ACCORDING TO US OFFICIALS WITH
KNOWLEDGE OF THE INTELLIGENCE.
I AM GOING TO GIVE YOU EXACT DETAILS OF HOW FLYNN IS
INVOLVED, WHERE DID EMAILS GO, WHO DID THEY GIVE THEM TO
BUT BEFORE I DO SO, I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT FOR YOU TO
UNDERSTAND HOW THE WALL STREET JOURNAL GOT THIS INFORMATION.
SHANE HARRIS WAS INTERVIEWED BY RACHEL MADDOW LAST NIGHT ON
MSNBC AND HERE'S WHAT HE HAD TO SAY ABOUT HOW HE GOT HIS
HANDS ON THE STORY.
TAKE A LOOK.
MY KNOWLEDGE OF WHAT HE WAS INVOLVED IN PREDATED MY FIRST
CONTACT WITH HIM AND REACH OUT TO ME, AND WE DO CONVERSATION
ABOUT WHAT HE WAS DOING WHICH WAS FAIRLY EXTENSIVE AND
OBVIOUSLY, HE IS QUOTED IN THE STORY AND IT WAS AT THAT POINT
THAT, WHEN WE SUSPEND THAT CONVERSATION THAT I CONTINUE
DOING REPORTING AND ASSUMED IN THIS CASE PERHAPS INCORRECTLY
THAT I WOULD HAVE THE CHANCE TO GO BACK AND DISCUSS THIS FURTHER
WITH PETER SMITH BUT OBVIOUSLY, HE DIED ABOUT 10 DAYS AFTER I
SPOKE WITH HIM SO IT WAS ON THE RECORD, HE REACHED OUT TO ME.
HE WAS IN NO WAY ASHAMED OF WHAT HE HAD DONE.
HE WAS ACTUALLY
QUITE PROUD OF IT AND FERVENTLY BELIEVED THAT THESE EMAILS WOULD
EVENTUALLY SURFACE.
HE REALLY BELIEVED THAT HE WAS AT THE END
AS HE DESCRIBED IT, HE THOUGHT THAT HE WAS AT NEARLY THE LAST
CHAPTER OF A LONG SAGA AND ASSUMED THESE EMAILS WOULD
COME TO LIGHT AND THAT HE WOULD ULTIMATELY BE INDICATED IN
THIS QUEST THAT HE WAS ON.
SO TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF CONTEXT, WHO THE HELL IS THIS
GUY?
HE IS ACTUALLY VERY RICH.
HE'S A PRIVATE EQUITY
EXECUTIVE.
HE IS BEEN INVOLVED IN REPUBLICAN POLITICS FOR A
LONG TIME, NOT AS SOMEONE WHO IS RUNNING BUT AS SOMEONE WHO IS
FINANCING THE POLITICS.
IF YOU ARE A PRIVATE EQUITY EXECUTIVE
YOU MIGHT LIKE SOME TAX CUTS AND OBVIOUSLY, HE IS VERY ENERGIZED
ABOUT ATTACKING NOT JUST DEMOCRATS IN GENERAL, BUT
SPECIFICALLY THE CLINTONS.
BACK IN THE 1990S, HE HELPED
PUBLICIZE THE ARKANSAS STRAIGHT STATE TROOPER CLAIMS AGAINST
BILL CLINTON AND HIS TRYST WITH OTHER WOMEN.
HE HAS BEEN GOING
AFTER THE CLEANSE FOR A LONG TIME SEVEN HILLARY CLINTON
TALKED ABOUT THE VAST RIGHT-WING CONSPIRACY, THAT WAS TRUE.
IT
WAS THESE GUYS LIKE MR.
SMITH SITTING THERE, FINANCING ALL OF
THIS STUFF TO ATTACK THE CLINTONS BEHIND THE SCENES
BECAUSE THEY WANTED MORE TAX CUTS AND DEREGULATION.
THIS GUY IS BACK AND IN HIS LAST GASP BEFORE HE DIES, IF WE
WERE RIGHT-WINGERS WOULD HAVE ALL SORTS OF CONSPIRACY
THERE IS ABOUT HOW HE DIED.
HE WAS IN HIS 80S.
THERE WERE NO - THERE ARE NO
THEORIES.
HE GOES AND SAYS TO THE WALL STREET JOURNAL.
BY THE
WAY, I WAS TRYING TO GET THE DELETED EMAILS THAT HILLARY
CLINTON SAID WERE PERSONAL, BUT I THINK ACTUALLY SHOWED THE
ARKANSAS STATE TROOPERS DID DO IT OR WHATEVER CONSPIRACY THEY
WERE ON.
AND THAT'S HOW ALL THIS CAME ABOUT HE IS BRAGGING ABOUT IT.
HE IS BRAGGING ABOUT IT TO THIS REPORTER AND KEEP IN MIND
THAT HARRIS HAD BEEN DIGGING AROUND FOR INFORMATION ABOUT THE
RUSSIA STORY FOR A WHILE AND SO SMITH WAS AWARE OF THAT AND WENT
TO HIM IMMEDIATELY.
IN THE INTERVIEW, WITH THE JOURNAL,
MR.
SMITH SAID HE AND HIS COLLEAGUES FOUND FIVE GROUPS OF
HACKERS HE CLAIMED TO POSSESS MRS.
CLINTON'S DELETED EMAILS,
INCLUDING TWO GROUPS HE DETERMINED WERE RUSSIANS.
HE
SAID, AND THIS IS AN EXACT QUOTE FROM PETER SMITH, WE KNEW THE
PEOPLE WHO HAD THESE WERE PROBABLY AROUND THE RUSSIAN
GOVERNMENT.
MR.
SMITH SAID AFTER BETTING BASHES OF EMAILS
OFFERED HIM BY HACKER GROUPS LESS ALL, HE COULDN'T BE SURE
ENOUGH OF THEIR AUTHENTICITY DELETE THEM HIMSELF.
HE SAID WE
TOLD ALL OF THE GROUPS TO GIVE THEM TO WIKILEAKS.
WIKILEAKS
CLAIMS WE DIDN'T GET THOSE EMAILS, WE DIDN'T PUBLISH THOSE
EMAILS, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE TRUTH IS THERE, BUT THAT IS WHAT
MR.
SMITH IS ALLEGING.
IN CONVERSATIONS WITH MEMBERS OF
HIS CIRCLE AND WITH OTHERS, HE TRIED TO RECRUIT HELP HER PEOPLE
TO HELP HIM.
THE GOP OPERATIVE PETER W SMITH IMPLIED THAT HE
WAS WORKING WITH RETIRED LIEUTENANT GENERAL MIKE FLYNN AT
THE TIME A SENIOR ADVISOR TO THEN CANDIDATE DONALD TRUMPÖ
TRUMPS CAMPUS SAYING WELL, IF FLYNN WASN'T IN FOODS WITH
SMITH, THAT WAS HIS RIGHT IS A PRIVATE CITIZEN TO DO SO,
EXCEPT HE IS A CAMPAIGN ADVISOR.
HE IS WORKING FOR THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN AND SO WHEN WE HAVE
DISCUSSIONS ABOUT COLLUSION'S WITH RUSSIA, THIS SOUNDS
LIKE OR LOOKS LIKE AND APPEARS TO BE COLLUSION WITH RUSSIA.
AND JUST TO BE CLEAR, THAT COLLUSION WOULD BE THROUGH A
FOREIGN GOVERNMENT HACK IN AN AMERICANS EMAIL SO WE COULD GET
THEM AND RELEASE SOMETIME PRETTY SURE THAT'S A CRIME.
AND ONE EMAIL, AND ONE SMITH EMAIL REVIEW BY THE JOURNAL
INTENDED TO ENTICE OUTSIDE EXPERTS TO JOIN HIS WORK, HE
OFFERED TO MAKE INTRODUCTIONS TO MICHAEL FLYNN'S SON MICHAEL WHO
WORKED AS CHIEF OF STAFF IN HIS FATHER'S COMPANY.
MR.
SMITH
ENGINE THE SUN AMONG THE FILE A SMALL NUMBER OF OTHER PEOPLE HE
SAID WERE HELPING.
ANOTHER RECORDING EMAIL SEEN BY
THE -
[VIDEO BUFFERING]
THAT'S GONNA BE NOTHING, THAT'S GOING TO BE A NOTHING BURGER.
I DISAGREE, IT WAS NOT A NOTHING BURGER, IT WAS A
SIGNIFICANT FACTOR IN THE CAMPAIGN.
I KNOW, BUT YOU ARE GOING TO GET ANYBODY ON THAT, YOU ARE GOING
TO CHARGE THE PRESIDENT WITH, YOU LIKE THAT THEY BROKE INTO
PODESTA'S COMPUTER.
THERE ARE DEMOCRATS WHO WANT TO IMPEACH TRUMP, AND THAT'S WHY
THEY HARP ON THIS RUSSIAN STORY, AND I GOT A MISTAKE, THEY
SHOULD STOP FOCUSING ON THIS, BUT THEY SHOULD FOCUS ON
OTHER THINGS AS WELL.
MY CONCERN IS NOT ABOUT POOR HILLARY, OR ALL THE EMAILS
ñ I DON'T CARE.
YOU GUYS KNOW HOW I FELT ABOUT HILLARY CLINTON DURING THE
ELECTION.
MY CONCERN IS, UNDERSTANDING, IF THERE WERE FOREIGN ACTORS AT
PLAY, IF THERE WAS ANY TYPE OF COLLUSION FROM ONE CAMPAIGN WITH
FOREIGN ACTORS, AND IF IT'S PROVEN, FIRST OF ALL IF IT'S
PROVEN THERE SHOULD BE CONSEQUENCES, AND IT'S
COMPLETELY PROVEN, BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, HOW ARE WE
GOING TO PREVENT THIS FROM HAPPENING IN THE FUTURE?
THAT'S RIGHT CARE OF ABOUT THE MOST.
TO FINISH MY POINT; THE PART THAT I DO CARE ABOUT IS, IF
YOU'VE GOT THIS REPUBLICAN BACKER GOING AND TRYING TO GET
EMAILS THAT YOU KNOW ARE ñ THAT HE DOES ARE STOLEN, SO THEY ARE
NOT PUBLIC YET, AND HE THINKS ñ ACCORDING TO HIS OWN ADMISSION ñ
HE THINKS THERE'S A GOOD CHANCE THE RUSSIANS TOLD THEM, AND
BEING A GOOD PATRIOTIC AMERICAN, HE THINKS, OH GOOD, THE RUSSIANS
STOLE SOMETHING REALLY GOOD FROM US, LET'S HELP THEM PUBLICIZE
THAT.
SO THEN I'M GOING TO ENLIST FLYNN, WHO IS NOT ñ
YOU'RE PART OF THE CAMPAIGN, MIKE FLYNN, YOU DON'T GET
TO SAY, I DID THAT PART OF THE CAMPAIGN, ALL THE ILLEGAL
STUFF I DID WAS AS A PRIVATE CITIZEN.
THAT'S NOT HOW IT WORKS.
YOU ARE ON THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN UNEQUIVOCABLY, AND YOU ARE
GOING TO THIS RICH REPUBLICAN, GOING, CAN YOU FIND A WAY
TO BRIBE PEOPLE TO GET US THOSE STOLEN EMAILS, THAT THE
RUSSIANS STOLE FROM US?
NOT SO THAT WE CAN PUBLISH THEM ñ REMEMBER, MIKE FLYNN USED TO
RUN THE DEFENSE INTELLIGENCE AGENCY, SO HE WAS SUPPOSED
TO BE THE ONES CHECKING IN ON THE RUSSIANS.
SO HE SAYS, OH GREAT, THE RUSSIANS STOLE FROM US,
MAYBE, SO LET'S GET THAT AND USE FOR OUR POLITICAL PURPOSES.
THAT'S WHAT I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH.
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