DRAFT POLICY THAT
WOULD POTENTIALLY BAN TRAVEL FROM EVEN WERE COUNTRIES IN THE
UNITED STATES BECAUSE OF THREATS OF TERRORISM, WELCOME A TURNS
OUT THAT TRUMP IS RAMPING UP TERRORISM AND OTHER COUNTRIES,
LIKE YEMEN.
LET ME EXPLAIN.
DURING THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION,
THE NUMBER OF DRONE STRIKES THAT UNFORTUNATELY ENDED UP KILLING
CIVILIANS A BROAD INCREASED.
ACCORDING TO ATLANTIC, OR THE
ATLANTIC, OBAMA PRESIDED OVER ROUGHLY 10 TIMES AS MANY LETHAL
AIRSTRIKES AS GEORGE W BUSH IN COVERT WAR ON TERROR OPERATIONS
OUTSIDE OF THE WAR ZONES OF IRAQ AND AFGHANISTAN.
ALSO INCLUDE
YEMEN INTO THAT LIST.
US STRIKES IN JUST THREE COUNTRIES,
PAKISTAN, SOMALIA, AND YEMEN KILLED AT LEAST 384 INNOCENT
CIVILIANS.
AGAIN, THIS IS UNDER THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION
AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CRITICIZED HIM FOR QUITE A BIT.
TRUMP LOOKED AT THAT POLICY AND SAID, NOT GOOD ENOUGH.
LET'S DO
MORE.
IN FACT, THERE MIGHT BE A LITTLE TOO MUCH OVERSIGHT WHEN
IT COMES TO VISA DRONE STRIKES SO LET'S LOOSEN SOME OF THE
RULES NECESSARY TO MOVE FORWARD WITH EVEN MORE OF THE STRIKES.
THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION IS PREPARING TO DISMANTLE KEY OBAMA
ERA LIMITS ON DRONE STRIKES AND COMMANDO RAIDS OUTSIDE OF
CONVENTIONAL BATTLEFIELDS.
THEY ARE GOING TO ESSENTIALLY TARGET
LOWER-LEVEL INDIVIDUALS THAT THEY SUSPECT OF BEING TERRORISTS
OR AIDING TERRORISTS.
THE TARGETS OF KILL MISSIONS WOULD
BE EXPANDED TO INCLUDE FOOT SOLDIER JIHADISTS WITH NO
SPECIAL SKILLS OR LEADERSHIP ROLES.
PROPOSED DRONE ATTACKS
AND RATES WOULD NO LONGER UNDERGO HIGH-LEVEL VETTING.
GREAT.
THE REASON WHY I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THE DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND
SECURITY IN THEIR NEW POLICY, THEIR DRAFTING NEW POLICY TO DO
EVEN MORE TRAVEL BANS AND EVEN MORE COUNTRIES BECAUSE THEY WANT
TO KEEP US SAFE.
IF THEY GENUINELY CARED ABOUT KEEPING US
SAFE, THIS IS THE KIND OF STUFF THAT THEY WOULD TRY TO REAL
BACKEND, BUT INSTEAD, THEY ARE EXPANDING WHAT THE OBAMA
ADMINISTRATION DID WRONG.
THEY WANT TO DO AWAY WITH ANYTHING HE
DID RIGHTS, BUT ANYTHING HE DID WRONG, THEY WANT TO EXPAND IT,
AND THIS LEADS TO WAY MORE HOSTILITY TOWARD THE WESTERN
WORLD.
IF YOUR FAMILY GETS MURDERED AND THE US GOVERNMENT
REFERS TO THEM AS COLLATERAL DAMAGE, HOW EASY IS IT FOR ISIS
TO RECRUIT YOU?
IT'S JUST DUMB A FOREIGN POLICY.
SO IF YOU ARE
WORRIED ABOUT TERRORISTS ABROAD, YOUR TRAVEL BANS ARE CUTE,
BUT YOU REALLY NEED TO RETHINK THIS FOREIGN POLICY THAT
HAS FAILED US TIME AND TIME AGAIN.
SO FROM TIME TO TIME, PEOPLE WILL SAY, OH YEAH.
TRUMP IS DOING THIS BUT DID YOU KNOW THAT OBAMA ALSO DID
IT, AND YOU CRITICIZE HIM WHEN HE DID IT?
YES, WE MOST CERTAINLY DID.
OBAMA'S TEAM WOULD CLAIM THAT
THEIR STRIKES WERE EXCEPTIONALLY SURGICAL AND PRECISE AND THAT
WAS NONSENSE AND WE CALLED IT THE NONSENSE THAT IT WAS OVER
AND OVER AGAIN.
ANA GAVE YOU THE 384 INNOCENT CIVILIANS
KILLED.
THAT'S THE LOW END.
IT IS POTENTIALLY AS HIGH AS 807
CIVILIANS KILLED.
IF THAT IS SURGICAL AND PRECISE, JESUS,
WHAT'S BUTCHERING?
807 CIVILIANS.
LOOK, DON'T GET LOST IN THE NUMBERS.
THAT'S A
REAL HUMAN BEINGS.
KIDS.
AUNTS, UNCLES, MOMS.
JUST PICTURE THEM
AS HUMANS.
THE ATLANTIC DID A GREAT JOB HERE, WONDERFUL PIECE
OF WRITING, AND MAKING A REAL.
THEY SAID LOOK, FOR EXAMPLE,
THERE'S HOMEGROWN TERRORISTS, LIKE THE GUYS IN SAN BERNARDINO.
REMEMBER, THAT COUPLE THAT DID THE SHOOTING.
IMAGINE IF THEY SAID, LOOK, WE ARE GOING TO DO A SURGICAL
AND PRECISE DRONE STRIKE TO TAKE THAT GUY OUT, SO HE DOESN'T
KILL PEOPLE INSIDE AMERICA.
THAT'S EVEN MORE DANGEROUS THAN KILLING SOME GUY IN YEMEN
OR SOMALIA THAT IS OUR ALLY, RIGHT?
SO WE DID A DRONE STRIKE ON THEM AND DON'T WORRY, WE GOT THEM,
WHICH BY THE WAY, A LOT OF TIMES THEY DON'T GET THEM, BUT WE ALSO
KILLED 13 OF YOUR KIDS IN AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL NEARBY AND
THAT DRONE STRIKE.
WHO WOULD SAY YES TO THAT?
NOBODY WOULD.
DONALD TRUMP.
THAT WOULD BE GROTESQUE AND BARBARIAN.
BUT
WHEN WE DO IT TO THEIR KIDS, WE THINK THAT'S NO BIG DEAL.
THIS
807 PIECES OF COLLATERAL DAMAGE.
BUT THEY ARE ALSO HUMAN.
THEY
ALSO GET REALLY MAD IF YOU KILL THEIR KIDS.
AND SO WHEN THAT
LEADS TO MORE PEOPLE FIGHTING AGAINST US, WE SHOULDN'T BE
SURPRISED, AND BY THE WAY, THE WAR MACHINE TAKES ON AND I'M NOT
AT ALL CONVINCED THAT THIS IS ACCIDENTALLY COUNTERPRODUCTIVE.
AND SO NO MATTER WHO IS PRESIDENT, WHETHER IT IS A
REPUBLICAN OR A DEMOCRAT, WHAT DO THE GENERALS WHO ARE ABOUT TO
GET MILLIONS OF DOLLARS FROM DEFENSE CONTRACTORS COMING AND
TELL THEM?
THEY SAY WE NEED MORE DRONE STRIKES.
YOU NEED TO KILL MORE
PEOPLE, AND DON'T WORRY ABOUT CIVILIANS.
WE ARE SO PRECISE.
I DO NOT THINK YOU ARE RIGHT ABOUT THE ATTITUDE BECAUSE
I THINK THAT THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION DID GET, AS
THEY SAID, WHAT THEY CONSIDERED EXCEPTIONALLY SURGICAL AND
PRECISE AND I THINK IT IS WAR AND YOU ARE DROPPING A BOMB
ON A CIVILIAN POPULATION AND THIS IS WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN.
BETTER WOULD BE FOR US TO RECOGNIZE, HEY, YOU MUST GO
KILL TERRORISTS AND YEMEN?
YOU WANT TO KILL THEM OUTSIDE THE ACCEPTED TWO WARS THAT
WE ARE FIGHTING?
THEN YOU ARE GOING TO KILL KIDS.
I IMAGINE THAT THAT NUMBER,
LET'S SAY IT IS 600, PUT IT RIGHT IN THEM MIDDLE DIET IS NOT
384, IT IS NOT 807.
I'M SURE IT COULD'VE BEEN 1600.
WE
DROPPED A LOT OF DRONES AND THEY ARE ALL HUGE BOMBS AND IT IS NOT
ALWAYS ON A CONVOY IN THE MIDDLE OF THE DESERT TOTALLY BY ITSELF.
OKAY.
ANOTHER WAY OF LOOKING AT THIS IS THAT THOSE DRONE
STRIKES, FROM OBAMA, KILLED AT LEAST 128 TIMES MORE INNOCENT
PEOPLE THAN THE BOSTON MARATHON BOMBING.
128
TIMES.
IT'S WHY IT'S VALUABLE, NOT JUST VALUABLE, CRITICAL THAT WE
SEE BATTLEFIELD FOOTAGE, THAT WE SEE DEAD AMERICANS.
THAT WE SEE
AMERICANS KILLED IN ACTION.
I'VE SEEN 38 MINUTES OF KEN
BURN'S VIETNAM DOCUMENTARY.
IT'S ALREADY AMAZING.
MOSTLY
BECAUSE OF WHO IS IN IT, THEY'RE VIETNAMESE.
IT BECOMES REALLY
EASY, IT'S THE OTHER.
FOR ME, TOO.
WE'RE ALL EXPERIENCING IT
WITH THE HURRICANE.
IT TEARS THROUGH ST.
MARTIN AND
DESTROYS ST.
MARTIN AND THEN LAWLESSNESS REINS ON SAINT MARTIN
BECAUSE THERE IS NO LAW AND THE WORLD HAS ESSENTIALLY BEEN
WIPED OUT, RIGHT?
AND IT'S HARD TO CARE, RIGHT.
BUT IF IT HITS FLORIDA,
WE CARE.
WE'RE HAVING A HARD TIME CARING ABOUT PUERTO RICO
TIMING, I'VE ALREADY HAD SIX CONVERSATIONS WITH PEOPLE, I
REMIND THEM THAT PUERTO RICO IS IN THE U.S. AND I'M NOT
EXEMPTING
MYSELF FROM IT, I DON'T FEEL THE SAME WAY.
AND THAT BOTHERS ME.
THOSE ARE AMERICANS.
WHEN IT'S OTHER
PEOPLE, WHEN IT'S OTHER KIDS, OH YEMENI KIDS.
THEY'RE SURROUNDED
BY TERRORISTS AND THE REAL PEOPLE TO BLAME ARE THE
TERRORISTS WHO ARE ESSENTIALLY USING HUMAN SHIELDS AND THEY ARE
USING YEMEN AS A BASE AND ALL OF THAT IS TRUE, BUT WE STILL DID
IT IN THE QUESTION IS DID WE WIN?
ARE WE MADE SAFER, AND IS THE WORLD MADE SAFER LONG-TERM
BY DOING THIS?
THERE ARE VERY SERIOUS PEOPLE WHOSE VERSES ARE AT LEAST HEARD
NOW WHO ARGUE NOW, NO.
THIS ACTUALLY MAKES US AND THE WORLD
AND PERHAPS YEMEN LESS SAFE.
LASTING.
WE WOULDN'T DO IT, THE
THING ABOUT DRONES, IT'S A LITTLE UNFAIR TO SAY USED IT 10
TIMES MORE THAN GEORGE W. BUSH.
HE ALSO USED IT 1 BILLION% MORE
THAN BILL CLINTON AND RONALD REAGAN.
NOW IT'S EASY.
WE
PRESS A BUTTON AND THE DRONE STRIKES CAN BE DONE SO EASILY
AND WE DON'T HAVE TO SEND IN TROOPS, SO MAN, IT IS TOTALLY
ANTISEPTIC.
WE FEEL GOOD AND WE DON'T WANT TO SEND TROOPS.
WE DON'T WANT TO SEND 5000
AMERICAN COMMANDOS INTO YEMEN WHERE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO
SHOOT AT THEM AND THEN WE KNOW IT'S MESSY.
I DON'T EVEN THINK, I ALSO DON'T WANT TO FIGHT SOME OTHER
COUNTRIES WAR WHICH IS WHAT WE ARE DOING IN YEMEN RIGHT NOW.
WE'RE IN YEMEN, DOING THESE DRONE STRIKES FOR SAUDI ARABIA
AND I DON'T THINK MOST AMERICANS KNOW THAT.
WHAT THEY DO IS,
THEY LIED TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ABOUT HOW THERE IS A TERRORIST.
AT AN EVEN THINK MOST AMERICANS KNOW WHAT WE ARE DOING IN YEMEN.
THAT'S THE TRUEST THING ANYONE'S EVER SAID.
IT'S A CRIMINAL.
IT'S A CRIMINAL THAT WE ARE KILLING
INNOCENT INDIVIDUALS IN A COUNTRY THAT MOST AMERICANS
DON'T EVEN KNOW THAT WE ARE DOING DRONE STRIKES ON.
WE ARE
USING OUR RESOURCES TO DO SO.
IT IS SO FRUSTRATING AND IT
CONTINUES ON.
I AM WITH YOU, CENK.
I DON'T THINK THIS IS AN ACCIDENT.
I FEEL LIKE THINGS ARE INTENTIONALLY ESCALATED
BECAUSE THERE'S A PROFIT MOTIVE BEHIND IT.
LOOK, LAST COUPLE OF THINGS HERE.
ONE OF THE THINGS WE
WARNED ABOUT DURING THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION IS IF YOU OPEN A
DOOR, THE NEXT PRESIDENT CAN WALK RIGHT THROUGH IT.
SO THE
DOOR THAT OBAMA OPENED WITH THE DRONE STRIKES AND KILLING
CIVILIANS WAS ALREADY BAD ENOUGH.
IT DIDN'T NEED ANYONE
ELSE TO WALK THROUGH IT.
IT WASN'T LIKE, SOMEONE ELSE CAN
ABUSE IT.
OBAMA ABUSED AND THERE I HAVE A LITTLE
DISAGREEMENT WITH BEN.
I DON'T THINK THEY WERE VERY CAREFUL AT
ALL.
THEY REDUCE SIGNATURE STRIKES FOR THEY DIDN'T EVEN
KNOW THEY WERE BOMBING.
FOOL ME ONCE, SHAME OF YOU.
I DON'T
WANT TO GET BACK INTO THE BUSH QUOTES.
IN TERMS OF OBAMA, IF
HIS GUYS COME IN AND GO, MISTER PRESIDENT, WE'RE INCREDIBLY
CAREFUL.
OOPS, SORRY, WE KILLED 17 KIDS.
THE NEXT TIME THEY SAY
IT AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN.
MAYBE THE FOURTH TIME YOU GO HEY, YOU KNOW WHAT?
I'M GETTING THE SENSE THAT YOU GUYS AREN'T THAT CAREFUL.
THE
600TH CIVILIAN KILLED ON YOUR WATCH, I'M BEGINNING TO THINK
YOU GUYS AREN'T THAT CAREFUL.
I BLAME OBAMA COMPLETELY FOR THAT.
NOW COURSE YOU HAVE TRUMP WHO IS A MONSTER WHO DOESN'T CARE AT
ALL SO HE IS LIKE, THANK YOU SO MUCH.
A RARE ACTUAL THANKS,
OBAMA FOR OPENING THAT DOOR.
I AM NOW GOING TO FLY THROUGH IT
AND JUST SAY, IF THEY WERE CAREFUL, WHICH THEY WEREN'T.
I DON'T WANT YOU TO BE CAREFUL AT ALL.
GO NUTS, DO MORE DRONE STRIKES.
DON'T EVEN BET THEM.
TO SAY WE'RE NOT EVEN GOING TO VET THEM IS UNBELIEVABLE.
HERE IS WHAT WE KNOW, AND I DO NOT DISAGREE WITH YOU AT ALL
REALLY ON WHO BEARS RESPONSIBILITY FOR THIS 400-800
CIVILIANS KILLED UNDER THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION.
IT'S OBAMA AND
YOU JUST HAVE TO RANK, PRIORITIZE WHETHER IT WAS WORTH
IT.
WAS IT WORTH IT FIGHTING SAUDI ARABIA'S WAR?
HELL NO.
RIGHT, OBVIOUSLY SOME PEOPLE THINK SO.
WHAT I AM OBJECTING
TO IS THE CHARACTERIZATION THAT THE PEOPLE DOING IT DO NOT CARE.
I DON'T KNOW WHETHER THEY CARE.
I'VE NO IDEA.
I IMAGINE THAT
THEY DO AND ALMOST TO ME, WORSE IS THAT THEY CARE AND THEY
STILL MAKE AN ASSESSMENT THAT THIS IS THE KIND OF COUNTRY
THAT WE WANT, THAT THIS IS STILL BETTER.
I JUST WANT TO QUICKLY REPLY TO WHAT YOU SAID BECAUSE I WISH
I KNEW THAT THE CONVERSATION WOULD GO IN THIS DIRECTION
BECAUSE I'D HAVE THE ARTICLE IN FRONT OF ME, BUT SEVERAL YEARS
AGO, THE INTERCEPT HAD THIS INCREDIBLE AS BOTH SAY REGARDING
DRONE STRIKES ABROAD AND THE TYPE OF INTELLIGENCE THAT THE
DEFENSE DEPARTMENT RELIES ON IN ORDER TO GET THE GREEN LIGHT FOR
THESE DRONE STRIKES AND TIME AND TIME AGAIN, THAT ARTICLE EXPOSED
THAT THEY WOULD RELY ON WHAT THEY KNEW WAS FAULTY INTEL AND
SO THEY WOULD RELY ON CELL PHONE GPS AND IT TURNS OUT THAT IT WAS
A CELL PHONE THAT ACTUALLY BELONGED TO A COMPLETELY
INNOCENT PERSON, AND THEY WOULD DROP A BOMB ON THAT PERSON.
AND
BY THE WAY, THEY WOULD BE ALERTED TO THESE ISSUES AND THEY
COMPLETELY IGNORED THEM AND SO AGAIN, THE INTERCEPT REPORTED
THIS SEVERAL YEARS AGO.
I'M GONNA LOOK FOR THE STORY AND
TWEETED OUT, BUT IT WAS DEFINITELY ILLUMINATING.
THAT'S
THE KIND OF STUFF THAT WE NEED TO STOP IF WE GENUINELY CARE
ABOUT STOPPING TERRORISM.
PART OF THE WAY THAT THEY KEEP COUNT IS BODY COUNT
AND SO, HEY, WE KILLED X NUMBER OF TERRORIST.
ARE THEY ACTUALLY TERRORISTS?
MAYBE WE HAVE THE WRONG GPS OR CELL PHONE OR MAYBE WE GOT
THE RIGHT ONE BUT HE HAD HANDED IT TO HIS MOM.
I'M JUST CURIOUS, HOW MANY JIHADISTS DID WE KILL?
WITH THESE DRONE STRIKES.
ALL THE NUMBERS ARE COMPLETELY UNRELIABLE, SO.
ULTIMATELY, YOU AS A COUNTRY MAKE THAT ASSESSMENT.
SUPPOSE IT'S 8000.
THERE IS NO WAY IT WAS 8000.
OKAY, SUPPOSE IT WAS 5000.
WHATEVER.
PICK A NUMBER.
4000.
400 CIVILIANS, 4000.
ARE WE COMFORTABLE KILLING 10 JIHADISTS?
I'M NOT.
RIGHT, SO THAT THE CONVERSATION WE WANT TO HAVE AS
A COUNTRY BUT BECAUSE WE DON'T SEE IT, WE DON'T SEE DEAD
AMERICANS, WE DON'T SEE AMERICANS PUT INTO HARMS WAY.
WE CERTAINLY DON'T SEE DEAD CIVILIANS THAT AMERICANS KILLED,
FOR SOME REASON, WITH THIS OF FREE MEDIA THAT WE HAVE.
WITHIN
UNCHECKED MEDIA, WE DON'T SEE IT.
I THINK IT WOULD CHANGE IT
IF WE SAW IT.
WE HAVE MADE WAR AND DEATH TOTALLY IN A SEPTIC IN
THIS COUNTRY, AND IT IS A HUGE MISTAKE AND DRONE WARFARE
IS ANTISEPTIC FOR US, NOT FOR THEM.
THINK ABOUT IT.
WE WILL PUT SOMEONE IN SOLITARY CONFINEMENT
FOR WHO KNOWS HOW LONG IF THEY HAD THE AUDACITY TO LEAK FOOTAGE
OF US BOMBING INNOCENT PEOPLE, OR BOMBING PEOPLE IN GENERAL.
BUT ACTUALLY, BOMBING INNOCENT PEOPLE GETS YOU
NOTHING.
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