good good morning to all of you so much greeting I introduce myself my name is Valerio
Guiggi, I'm a vet doctor, I'm specialist in food inspection
of animal origin and in my business I take care of it
feeding and nutrition of the dog that of the cat
today I'm here to talk naturally of cats,
I point out that we are in this moment too
live for this there is the phone in front of us live on
Facebook page of MicioGatto that there gave the possibility of short
transmit this intervention to the whole a series of cat owners who
they are not present here ogg, i they do not have had a chance to see too
only for reasons of distance. Feeding the cat in nature is
the topic of this seminar is a topic I suppose
interesting because often there are not many colleagues to know him,
this according to me is a mistake in the meaning that one of the most common problems
of the clinical practice is the cat who does not want to eat what
what you give him, simply for which they go to change more or less crispy to
case, or the owner who says no I want
make homemade food, or diet raw and which is more natural, but the
cat does not want to know, to him the crispies will please him, while
natural food no. Why does it happen? someone
he says the cat no longer recognizes his natural food, recognizes only the
croccantini, they are speeches that feel, in reality there is a reason and this
reason should be sought not so much in a physiological component we say
of the cat as much as in the part behavioral, that is how it relates the
cat with food. Understanding how it is report the cat with food yes
they can understand a series of things and you can also understand how to act for
let him change power. To understand how the cat relates to food
there are some studies, there are many studies done on nutrition
of the cat in nature, who finances them? they finance research studies, but
the same companies also finance them feeders, because a company
feed that makes a food then cat not
eats has already lost, interest however, the feed company is
to sell their products so if you make a cat food you do not
like it, the cat does not eat it and the owner does not
buy it, so you've failed say in the your marketing. This is so
important also for companies, not only for the owner, to know
a cat's diet in nature. Then
What does the cat eat in the wild? Mice basically small prey,
that vary, studies have been carried out, the cat is found
practically all over the world, it comes from different subspecies, in the report
first we have seen that they exist different subspecies of cat and
outwardly these different subspecies they also have a different diet, which
it does not depend so much on the cat itself from what it finds in the environment, there
it's the rats, there are the birds, there are reptiles, there are some amphibians even
some cats also eat of invertebrates depends
basically from the park of prey that has the cat available.
I divided this intervention into three characteristics
fundamental: part: from the first and èil taste of the cat: how we choose
what we eat according to taste, and there are things that we like and things that are not there
like them, even the cat reasons in this way, we have five tastes
fundamental or the sweet, the salty, the umami that nobody knows about it,
that would be the tasty, discovered in 1910 It seems to me from a Japanese researcher
but he arrived in the west a lot after this thing, in other words
four flavors are sweet, salty, bitter, sour, and there is also the tasty that
for the cat it is paradoxically the most important, it's very important, too
for us, we like it even if it often does not we know, then to the cat of these
five tastes, one is missing, I address also to the people who are watching from
internet according to you, among the five tastes
fundamental we have us, what is missing from the cat? where there is salty,
sour, bitter and umami tasty, tasty he has it, and it's the most important,
no it's not sour or savory,
no the bitter hand is not ... sweet! the cat does not have i
receptors for the dessert, for a change genetics or simply that the sweet receptor
it is common to many mammals, some are even particularly
pigs are sensitive particularly sensitive to the sense of the
sweet, to the cat this sense is missing, because? we do not know, it probably is
an evolutionary question, not we know if the egg of the first was born
hen, in the sense if it is not the receptor of the sweet because the cake is not so much
he ate, perhaps he chose not to eat the fruit because it did not have the receptor
of the cake, but in general we say how as a condition he does not have this
receptor, then if we give him something sweet feels something because he has others
flavors, but sugar, as well as for example we do not make it here or there, we give it to each other
ice cream that is sweetened, but also has others flavors, clearly feels the other flavors and not
feels the taste of sugar. so this already directs us in
some way to feed natural,
a cat will not eat one willingly sugary fruit, a rather plum
that a peach or an apricot, not it will eat gladly because
basically it's not for him particularly tasty.
The tastes instead of the others four that he has to which he is, is more sensitive
in particular two are the the umami e
bitter. they are the two tastes to which they are thenù sensitive now I'll explain what it is
the tasty. The tasty is glutamate, a
amino acid, glutamic acid, which is part in general, proteins are found
both in animals and in plants, we feel it in particular, it is found
also like glutamate in sachets usually in ethnic shops, it is rich for it
example the meat that is boiled, that that's why you put it on yourself
boil in the broth to extract, because the broth is tasty?
After that it is there that boils at the beginning it is not tasty, just because acid comes out
glutamic that we with our language we can perceive. The cat is
particularly sensitive is a molecule which is particularly abundant
in proteins for which the cat is in able to perceive it even better than us,
and this is logical because he eats above all proteins, but above all
foods of animal origin, the cat in hunting nature, so eating
especially this, then the fact that be particularly sensitive
to this taste has the pleasure of go and choose certain types of
prey than others. The other taste a which is particularly sensitive is
bitter, for the exact opposite effect, as there are pleasant substances for the
glutamate, of bitter tendency it is a disgust, activates the mechanism of the
disgust, spit, even simply the rejection of what he started,
and this causes the receptor of the bitter be a defense mechanism for him, like
it is for us now because if we we eat a fruit that does not
we know and it is very bitter, we have one disgust reaction, and it's a mechanism
defensive, because many bitter compounds they are also harmful to health, for
someone also poisonous, it also happens with some animals, there are some animals ad
example of amphibians, which have one cute that secretes
poisonous substances, is a defensive mechanism secretes poison, but
it also secretes bitter substances, because it is purpose of the animal is not that of
kill the cat that eats it, how much to move away, make sure that the
cat knows that that animal sucks, and do not eat it, so it is the instinct of
survival of the prey, e the same is true for the plants for which there is
this particular mechanism
for which the cat is particularly sensitive to these two
tastes and this explains why the cat he is a hunter and prefers the general
foods that are very tasty in this sense, so many times in the
croccantini is put for example liver hydrolysis
organ particularly rich in glutamic acid, the cat tends to prefer it
more than a food that is composed mainly of meat of
chicken, which may have less than this amino acid e so it tends to have less
pleasure in eating other types of foods. this is a bit of logic
at the base from which the companies depart feeders when they do i
crunchy, with the wet put something particularly rich in acid
glutamic so that sometimes he feels like he likes and likes
consequence, in other words, that I go to eat it more willingly than others
alimony this for, ò is not the only component
because there are two others a lot important in the feeding of the cat,
that are on one side the effect monotony, on the other side there are two
things seem opposed but in reality yes he can find a key, which is then one
situation that is similar, explained as the story
It seems strange, but in reality it is not dissimilar from what
we have also, one is the monotony effect on one side,
and the other is categorization of what he eats. There is not or at least
a component has not been highlighted genetics of what the animal likes
eat, that is genetically the cat that he prefers the mouse, no! Much counts
the experience, the most important thing for the cat, and it is
that's why you can not manage to identify that the cat likes the mouse
or like the liver, or like it beef and all cats like it
that thing there, because that to cats like it, there's the cat that adores it and the cat
that does not eat it, it's something that depends a lot on the cat,
so you have to enter a moment in the his mentality, let's say to understand how
change power to a cat. Then the monotony effect is
a phenomenon that have seen i researchers occur in the
natural behavior of the cat, when the cat is in nature and
the prey is not distributed uniformly, maybe there is a prey that
much more present in that natural environment and others that are less so, a cat
eat 10 to 20 times a day roughly, capturing small prey that
they bring from the point of view about thirty pounds caloric
calories one for a dozen eats from 300 to 600 kilocalories,
basically it is on 300 kcal per day as a dose
who is able to eat and if he has one
overabundance of prey at some point after he ate
maybe two times the same prey it also uses more energy to go to
look for something different, because i studies seem to get fed up with eating
many times the same thing. what is we say is the reason? there
explanation we say that those who study these things that usually are not
veterinarians, but other other figures are data? the dietary balance: it is not
said that always eat a usual prey guarantee a diet
complete with the cat, but eat a lot prey maybe a little more lacking in
one more nutritious but richer in others and then eat others that are more
rich in those than before they were poorer and vice versa can carry
at a balancing, so is favored from the point of view
evolutionary the cat that goes looking many different prey than the cat that
always eat the same prey. a deficiency does not occur at home, yes
goes to the vet and resolves, one deficiency that occurs in nature
you will have to solve, which is why the cat is easier than it goes to
eat lots of different prey, and this how he feels from his point of view
staff? It gets tired, and is an effect that if let's see is not very different from
the human one, if you eat the same every day
what after a while you get tired and go so to look for
something else too we.
and it seems that this mechanism is due to the balance
natural nutrition, which takes place nature unknowingly clearly
for the cat, but there is also this effect, the last effect that counts and is the third
component among the most important, ce there are so many, there are particularities
physiological, there are also others, but in the choice of food
the experience is also very important: when the cat is subjected to this effect
monotony would theoretically tend to go to eat everything and we know very well
from the cat in the house that is not like that, not they go to eat everything, because the cat
let's say a series in his mind of categories, a series of foods that
he says: ok I can eat them out from those I'm suspicious, it's a
defense mechanism too, because if a cat goes to eat everything,
whereas it also eats invertebrates and reptiles and amphibians that can be
even poisonous, sooner or later we would remain, for which or we make a certain range of
prey that can capture, out of those if there's nothing else,
I go to look for those, maximum if there is something else I prefer those that
I know, when it happens categorization? when the cat is
small, even when it is not yet born,
there are some studies that have seen how mother's diet is already one
example for the kitten, when it is still in
uterus, through the placenta pass
obviously the nutrients, but some aromatic substances also pass,
that maybe they do not feed, but receptors they already work when the cat is still there
he was not born, so he gets used to a little at that taste, the molecules do not pass
only by transplacental, but they also pass into the milk, for
via mammaria, so the flavor is clearly different from cat-to-cat,
influence the kitten, they did a interesting experiment several years ago
giving bananas to a cat
not just bananas, but also bananas and saw the kittens
that were born of this cat that ne ate they were more inclined to go to
look for bananas compared to going to look for the meat, then they also ate
that because mom also ate that, but the bananas evidently, which they liked
much to his mother, he ate a big one amount, and the kittens were more inclined to
go look for bananas, because it is the first period of life is very important,
mother counts, counts the period in which they go to solid food, therefore
at weaning, after weaning is much easier to accustom the kitten
small to something to which it does not he was not used to a habit
a cat already adutlo, plus a cat grows, the more these categories are fixed, let's say,
the harder it is to make them change, my grandfather does the same! in the sense that it is a lot
more difficult to eat, my grandfather is 92 years old, so it is much more difficult to do
eat sushi to him, to a guy which is fifteen, because it is a bit '
same mentality, but it is not different from that, that is today, Saturday, tomorrow and
Sunday, many of you do not they will deal with the family, they will do
lasagne or something, if Tomorrow he arrived home instead
of the lasagne pan there find a pan of spiders, because in
some countries in Asian countries eat these things, but here we are and say
we have a range of foods that we consider acceptable, some that
maybe there are those who have never eaten one sushi, already raw fish, but raw
a little 'I do not like it, so when you go right out of our canons and then
this effect becomes stronger, so let's say if you give a piece of
chicken to a cat that has always eaten crunchy biscuits, whose mother always ate
crunchy, give it a piece of chicken breast for him is like us
a food was actually supplied to us that is completely out,
that is, these foods do not come back and the same works for the cat,
the monotony effect and let's say this schematization of the choice
of the food go a little bit in balance so there are more cats than
they are used to eating more things than that they are more subjected to the effect
monotony, in the sense today I give you the cattle, tomorrow tomorrow
then the chicken starts to bother I eat it and the cow then I take it back
after another six seven days, when instead a cat is
instead, used to eating less food, maybe because mom was eating
croccantini, the cat always eats the same crunchy, for him canons
let's say of choice will be very tight, already will be suspicious towards crunchy
that have another flavor, a verse the wet cans, there is also
a component of consistency, there is also a viscosity component does not count
only the taste, the taste is one of the components it forms
the food, but singing with this type [there was someone who makes me a
the applause thanks tiziana someone who puts me also like on the internet thanks]
so going with this type of effect, if the categorization is a lot
narrow, it will be more difficult for the catandare to
eat another kind of food, a lot that many times, for example, formulate you
housewife to cats and owners all enthusiastic, go there to start and the
cat makes him No But I do not want it, what a disgusting thing
stuff you give me, and maybe they are balanced diets maybe
they are composed of meat mostly, then a power from the point of
nutritional vision very suitable for a cat, even more suitable than maybe to
crunchy, and this what the cat does not like,
how do you get used to a thing of the gender? someone says ok I force it then
he takes, opens his mouth, puts the piece of meat in his mouth in the mouth so then it's the right time
who eats, unfortunately on Facebook groups I saw a suggestion of the thing
gender, Re-founding the example above, s
if I have a nice plate in front of me
lasagna, one comes looking for me to put on worms in the mouth, and so yes that not
I eat neither worms nor lasagna, you can not force
and how can it not be force a person, you can not force
not even a cat, if you just do a medicine can also make sense,
if you do however for a food that that cat must eat every day
must find a pleasure to eat, it is much more difficult, so how do you do it?
we must make him understand that food is also suitable for him, so a
trick, for example, to leave it to him available, the cat is a curious animal,
the cat is normal that tends to experiment because there is a component
curiosity, but if you force it no, so take the new food and
leave it there available so that he sniffs him one day, he makes me
I do not want to suck it, the next day I give it back to you, smell it,
he sucks, but looks at him a little more and do not want it,
the third day sniffs a little 'more closely and gives a lick, the fourth day the
understand, if you always leave here. I have animal patients,
owners who wrote to me later three, four months I had formulated
the homemade diet, and I was saying you insist, you insist, they've come to the point
who wrote me all happy, or I did it to change power
it took the cat months, i it takes me at least a month minimum
I tell everyone, but there are still cats more stubborn than they still put on
more, it is the insistence of the owner to be able to change power,
because to the owner it seems better, it seems more natural, it has time
to cook, maybe to propose it, for look for the foods to be provided in
a home cooked or raw diet is indifferent from this
point of view, so he goes and after so much, a lot of time succeeds,
because the cat must have that mental elasticity to say ok, I start to
eating that, in a kitten is a lot faster, so maybe you get one
week, in an adult cat, especially adult, it's all the more difficult to do it,
in an elderly cat it is very difficult succeed, so the advice you give
it is often for example even if one eats the crunches,
change them, or give the piece of meat, or give the
piece of food, clearly not the sauce! someone says but not the
the leftovers of the table should be given, for force us you can give them the sauce or the
chicken in a humid cacciatore, not you can give him things like that, you do it
get fat, at that point yes, they are created imbalances, but in general, we take the
strip of white chicken breast that I had done for the baby, take it and
let it taste also to the cat, because you begin to get used to, take away also the gods
problems in the future, because sometimes it is the owner watching videos
[Bye, bye bye, greeting who is watching me from the page of
MicioGatto] so someone for a scleta says no, not
I want a better diet for the my cat so I choose to do this
kind of power, someone else there unfortunately it is found out of necessity, from
kidney failure, to the problems of calculations.
For example, struvite problem, and the vet advises urinary food,
it's the problem is that if it's so from the point of view
so mental categorized with food, feeding
the urinary, with the cabbage that eats you then the chicken breast, you eat meat
bovine, or what you want to give it, not they eat it, so it's a lot
important to insist, especially when the cat and little one is used to
eat other things too, and this unfortunately often does not come
said, because they often tell you, but i crunchies eat those are fine
those, continue with those, is wrong from a nutritional point of view, too
for the future of the cat, why it is not held for three days and then it is done
he goes his way, the cat when he is he basically wants to keep it
for a lifetime, so yes he hopes to make him feel good, so of
make it happen too much and a cat that field twenty years, see it sometimes
unfortunately also die because we are not managed to support it with
a suitable diet, for mistakes made in the first period of feeding,
they are things that must be done when the cat is still healthy, you have to think about it
first and you have to go looking for vary, between this has an effect
also positive in reducing the factors of risk of one of the most problems
frequent in the feeding of the cat, especially when the dry is missing
it's allergies, there are studies that show how
change more the feeding allows to prevent, because the power is
also therapy, clearly but it is prevention, to know
proper nutrition and know all kinds of
alimentation, even if they are the "croccantini", because there are people who for
economic problems or problems of practicality can not do the
housewives feedings, already know for example that for a cat is definitely
better a moist feeding, that it does not have a croquettes diet, it is a
very important information in the first life of the cat [you can say goodbye to me
Andrea son, hello andrea greeted Mom so much when there are
direct there are spectators who rightly there are a little 'looking from
all over Italy] and it is also this one important component, so know
feeding the cat in nature there it serves not so much for super curiosity
quark, to know how the lion eats, that's a documentary, ok, one looks at him, pretty,
interested, I made myself a culture, but overall
feeding in nature also serves us to understand how the cat reasons from
nutritional point of view, and it is one important thing, it's something that in
general should not be underestimated, I always recommend, then someone who
he says you pull water to your mill, because you're a vet, so do them
advice, make visits, and so on, me I always recommend the first phase of
life, when you take a kitten, a little dog, it's worth
even for the dog, to make it one advice with a vet that you
occupies feeding how can I be, but there are
other colleagues, to know these information because a diet
correct, especially in the first phase of life, it is also fundamental for the
future health, not to be in difficulty when there are pathologies that
unfortunately there are, some are due to nutrition, some not,
may be due to genetics, to the accident, to infectious diseases,
there are many causes that can lead to pathologies, but overall
deepen the power already when the cat is small, especially so
personalized, when the cat is small, it's one thing
very useful to be able to safeguard the health of the cat, you think too little
to prevention, in my opinion, for what is a way of
see, and too much to therapy, so if you can prevent, inquire since
right away, and luckily with a little bit of it correct disclosure I managed to
have people tell me: ok i I give the crunchy, but I want anyway
know to choose correct crunches, someone who is a housewife, but I want to
balance it correctly, I want do it properly, because I'm afraid of that
we can establish the future of the pathologies,
this is a very important base, in my opinion, a basis to consider
especially because someone is scares because there is to pay that for the
veterinary advice as for any
veterinary services, make one veterinary advice once, two
times in the first phase of the cat's life you avoid so many of those expenses from mine
colleagues in the future that is difficult quantify, because it is said
with the correct feeding both in can prevent up to 70 percent
of metabolic diseases of the cat, so it's an important thing, and that
we talked about today is in general, a component that in short
I think it is useful to know, for any cat owner. That
do you have tomorrow?
I have a foundling cat a year and a half and the vet has me
said that he probably has an allergy because he was constantly scratching
so I'm using hypoallergenic crunches,
and I see that it is very schematic, because for example the little boxes only want the tuna
the meat does not want it, I give it sometimes some pieces of raw meat that
sometimes he likes sometimes not But I do not really know what kind of thing
allergy the cat may have developed because his story I do not know, then the question is to feed him a food that
should it tamper with this problem, does it make sense?
Summarize for a moment the question for those who are he is watching [must find
just vet giving them just information writes elisabetta from
internet] I summarize the question of the lady also for whom
follows from the internet,
question is this: she has a cat that is in the presence of an allergy
food as it is very schematic with the power how should I behave?
at this stage then the first part is definitely the diagnostic part, then
first you have to pay a visit veterinary course of course first
pathologies that are excluded are those of dermatological nature, so for example
an environmental allergy, a dermatitis, a scratching from
other causes can be trivial even fleas, so first it is excluded
those, at the time the treatments dermatologicals have not reported the
result hoped, then it is assumed that the cause is food, in the moment in
which is suspected to be food must try to understand from
what depends, so you have to choose the right foods, if yes
suspicious, because usually the allergy is towards the proteins of a meat, but it is not
He said, they can also be proteins present in the sources
vegetables, then to the croccantini you need make us still careful, choose with
attention, it must be evaluated, the study must be studied choice of food
at that point we must proceed for one certain period of time only with that type
of food then the additions homemade, in that case they are not ideal
However, identify some foods housewives who eats could also
replace with a homemade diet appropriately formulated the croccantini, e
if the cat succeeds in eating these things are much easier to understand from what
it depends on why there are more in the croccantini sources, there are the ingredients, there are
sources of contamination,
in feed mills
there may also be gods contaminations, which they can do
that the protein mono crunchy, there are of the studies they showed as gods
crunchy biscuits that had to be mono proteins actually were not,
so you have to choose with a lot attention, evaluate if there are any
reaction decreases and evaluate if the cat eats components
housewives if you can with those home appliances to reduce the
reaction, if the allergic reaction was of food nature is solved, because yes
leverage what is, as for us, if you are allergic to almonds, stop eating
the almonds the allergy you do not have it anymore, so it works
exactly the same way, so unfortunately, to pass when you arrive
in a critical situation this way the cat to another kind of
power supply can not be simple, it's ugly
say it needed to think about it first, though unfortunately, and in your case it is even more difficult
because the cat is a foundling, and let's say it can be complex
try to integrate, maybe I take croccoantini based, I do not know, lamb,
and try to make him appreciate the lamb meat so that the
protein component is similar can be a useful thing to try to
then go from the crunchy to the homemade and at that point check much better
the situation is not a simple path in the meantime yes
they can use additions that also reduce the
inflammatory component of allergy, the diet can be set
with additions so reduce the allergic component therefore
guarantee a little more well-being at cat, the allergy is not resolved, it is not
it resolves completely the reaction, but yes
reduces the manifestation and the cat is better, than first
perhaps the most correct goal.
Do you have any other questions?
if you want to see me again, know that I will do other seminars here at the fair today
afternoon at five o'clock we'll talk about label all as you read them
industrial food labels for the cat, so basically it will be a
bit a very normative part, a lot linked to the legislation, but it is interesting
because it uses industrial foods even perhaps household foods that
but they sell companies that fall into this legislation,
[ A greeting from the festival of the cats the Elisa is to the
cat festival in lombardy and we are here at FYP in Florence,
greetings to all] and two seminars instead there will be tomorrow they will be on
same argument because you can choose if coming at 12 to 15 we'll talk about
feeding housewives feeding of industrial which better to choose
what are the advantages which are of the disadvantages of each of the two
Thanks to everyone who has listened, thanks to the friends who see us
delayed see you with the other seminars always
here at the fair, to Follow Your Pet.
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