You say that you know there must be a better solution there must be no
confrontation non-violence is not always the answer
no I would argue yes you know it's okay to say it doesn't deliver results now in
your view can non-violence be an answer for example to jihadi terrorism not at
all so if not so then what I would like you to tell this audience is dealing
with one of the greatest individual constructs of problems in the world
today which is jihadi terrorism in your view Sadhguru what is the direct
antidote to jihadi terrorism and immediate and quick solution to it what
is the direct antidote that's what I'm doing that's my work but quick solution
I don't have one
there is no quick solution individual transformation is the only solution but
that's not a quick solution but a lasting solution what is the what is the
solution to it let me rephrase that what is the solution I am saying how do you
deal with it if you were a world leader so it could which you are in your own
way but if you were a political leader facing the problem of jihadi terrorism
what would you do to take it on see we must understand this though nobody wants
to spell it out nobody wants to say it it is written not in one in many
religious books across the world it is written clearly those who are not like
you deserve to be killed let's come to the point I know this may bring things
upon myself but it's okay not in any one book in many books it is written clearly
those who do not believe the same things that I believe must die they are fit to
die they are unfit to live here this is clearly their so because people are
claiming it is the Word of God they don't have the courage to amend the book
it is time that you take sensible part of people
who believe in these books and say see if you edit this 10 pages your book will
become wonderful the boys ooh the boys who carried out the darker attack came
from very very elite families some of them spoke accented English they simply
wore black ropes call themselves Isis went into a cafe and short innocent
people when a philosophy as dangerous as that and I wouldn't use the term
philosophy when a belief as dangerous as that becomes as viral as potent it grows
organically Isis then becomes a thought process
not even a terrorist organization then how do you deal with it I need to
correct that question a bit it is not organic
it is very organized till you address this you will not address the problem it
is very very organized so if anything that's organized it has a source if you
have any kind of administrative strength and skills when you see something
threatens the fabric of the society you must know where is the source for these
organizations and deal with it but we don't have the courage to deal with it
because every six months we got an election ok every six months or eight
months there is an election going on somewhere and because of the if they
sell blame on you because of 24/7 channels some election is happening in
Manipur it feels like a national election is happening in Tamil Nadu
everybody sitting and watching money Puri elections because it's made to feel
like this election going on and when there when politicians are in election
mode you don't expect responsible action it is expected because this is the
nature of democracy that is the time of hyperbole but that should be only once
in five years I think we are working towards that that's a good thing that
elections will be only once in five years
that's how it should be because it is not that they're all bad but these are
the compulsions of a democracy when you when you go into an election campaign
you cannot say I am taking this economic step this economic step this economic
step because the crowd there doesn't understand any of these things you have
to rev up their passion about something so in that mode you can't fix a nation
so this is not organic let's be very clear about this this is super organized
it has grown everywhere in the world with a tremendous sense of organization
where there is an organization there is always a head and if you know how to
administer a nation you must know how to handle this one observation Satguru
which is an a comment probably you haven't seen oh my god you need to have
you need to have a look at that because to get all the spiritual gurus in India
and the one platform never happens it only happens when you scare and since
you're using the word screwed up I've used the words many when you scare the
shit out of them but coming to the serious part of it you know I I consider
you and you know I want to give a disclaimer I really don't I have a
spiritual sense within me but I don't really follow any spiritual guru and and
therefore when you know when I actually went through internet and heard a few of
your interviews in conversation I found a new a very logical person a person who
is practical a person who is scientific in his answers and therefore you know
there was a connect but there were two things which actually broke that connect
and there's a disconnect and I hope you can win that today which is when you
talked about and maybe I got it wrong so therefore you know if you could just
kindly explain what you meant by that that certain women don't need to enter
certain temples but maybe women in certain temples need to know you don't
need to stay out so that's one and the other is the recent one where in Jellico
you talked about fundamental rights of animals and every
birds and everything but Angelica do you supported the the other side of it so
why was this and since it was kept political by Arno most part of it
and I think many of us out ever wanting to hear the spiritual side of you so I'm
following it up with with a political question so you must understand this
there are two reasons those people who are propagating certain things and also
there is a certain unfortunate discriminatory process but essentially
culturally this nation before invasions and other things happen this nation did
not have a big discriminatory process between men and women you look back on
the ancient societies here there was absolutely no discrimination most of the
country was matriarchal obviously because this is you must understand many
things today or common between men and women not because of liberalism simply
because of technology technology is leveled the ground in many ways you
muscle doesn't mean as much as it meant a thousand years ago when human beings
were doing everything with their body man's muscles were important so he
dominated the world in a certain way once technology came your muscles me if
you have lot of muscles will give you a menial job we are not going to make you
the boss here so because of that things change slowly but in the spiritual
dimension of this country there never was any discrimination you must
understand if you don't know this as per the Hindu norms Hindu man cannot go to
heaven without his wife how nice is that there are no other observers and other
whatever they are not waiting there you have to go there with your wife you
decide whether you want to go to heaven or not that's up to you but a Hindu man
cannot go to heaven without his wife next to him she has to be there so these
are different ways this society address this but when the in missions happen
particularly first thing that they're going for is your wife and your daughter
that's the first thing that people will take away and it's the most disgraceful
thing and the most painful thing so they all hid them in the granaries of the
time and when continuously these raids were ravaging the society slowly don't
step out of the house became a norm because generation after generation the
raids kept on happening so there are many historical aspects leave that about
the temple entry there is no such thing anywhere that a woman should not enter
the temple because she is a woman you understand it is just that certain
temples they are doing certain occult work there are certain forces there I
have to talk about biology one thing is mountain temples we said women should
not go because you must understand those who are days this is a Thai girl and
when I say Thai girl and today the poor tiger has to be protected as if it's a
pussycat those days they proud in thousands going into the jungle and
coming back alive is a big thing if you don't know this even today there is a
practice that if people tribal people walk in the jungle though there are not
so many Tigers anymore they will take some incense and walk because they don't
want the wild animals to smell them there is some running in the South
Indian camp you know but some run but you quality north some running only
right yeah either they burn it or they smear it on their body and walk so that
the wild animals the core neighborís animals cannot smell you it is no more
relevant because they are not so many left but at that time it was really
tiger country so the very nature of women's biology is
such that a core numerous animal will always smell out a woman much more
easily than a man especially at certain times of the month it will definitely
smell it smell her out so they said Mountain temples she should
not go all the mountain temples they restricted now those things are gone
women are equipped in a different way than the way they were at that time and
the wildlife is scant it is very much possible to go the other kind of temples
where they were asked not to go were where they're doing occult work when
they're doing occult work I'm telling you whether you like it or you don't
like it maybe you are liberal but you don't know the fundamentals of nature
the nature is such that when you do certain occult work a woman is more
susceptible to damage herself in such situation than a man even for a man if
there is any injury in the body they won't let him into that place where they
are doing occult because it will affect him so this was done with a certain care
and concern not as a discrimination today you are taking it up as a
political activism and thinking everybody should good everywhere it's
fine then the thing is you should not do that kind of work because it will be
harmful even today in this country if a woman is an early stage of pregnancy we
won't allow her to come to the funerals do you know this it is a very sensible
thing to do it is not discrimination it is protection not just for the woman but
for the child that she carries it's very very important if you do not look at
life the way it is how the life force is functioned how it is best for us to be
and if you just talk about social equality social equality then you will
do silly things which will only in the end make the woman suffer but now it's
become political activism probably those temples are not doing any occult of any
great strength so maybe it doesn't matter that's a different matter but if
you're talking politics if you are talking about equality there are only
two places where you should be even concerned whether
somebody is a man or a woman what is in somebody's pants is not your business
only in bedrooms and bathrooms you must be concerned about these things
completely totally thousand percent disagree with you I I have you know in
this country the problem has been that a lot of people take upon themselves the
responsibility of protecting women now to give you my perspectives that you see
in this country of us at one point of time it was also told that snotty is
traditional so we like now you raise something shall i clear the second point
is there are no Tigers were going to eat women when they go to Shani Sigma puro
subliminal by your own argument there was a rational you say for not letting
women a logical rational for not letting women into temples earlier that
rationale doesn't exist today it doesn't that's what I'm saying so then change
the rules which every I am saying just that where it comes from and where when
situations change we have to change the norms accordingly that's what I am
saying and anyway you see a look at how unfair this is in this country there are
women who can be divorced on whatsapp whatsapp that's another matter in this
woman in this country you must answer to understand the sensibilities of people
today they are going to question what is injustice definite women is being kept
out of a temple because she is told that she's impure that by the definition of
what is pure and impure if it doesn't apply in today's context that we need to
give voice to that all I am saying to you Sadhguru is another point of polite
disagreement with you and we will never agree on this point we will come we'll
come to the agreement defect is that either things have changed I know this
personally circle I have some understanding of the pulse of this
country we did a campaign core the right to pray
I wish Socceroo you were there with me when phone lines were opened when people
men women children from all over the country called up and said what happens
in shani shingnapur Haji Ali or supreme Allah is unfair that is a perspective
must be understood it's alright if you what we're doing is I know you you I
know you are in a certain profession where you only ask questions but you
must listen to what I am saying I said guru sakshat guru let me tell you
one you have to question right or Sadhguru let let me tell you one thing
please understand that the logic is also understood by people and the right to
question what is wrong is essential to my profession yes the day I stopped
questioning what and what questioning that I will not be true today I'm not
questioning that but I am Telling You please
because what is simple basic logic and in how many ways life happens are two
different things whatever we did to protect from wildlife
and stuff is not relevant anymore because women are not in the same
condition they are equipped in many different ways
going up to hill temples which we very much possible that's not a issue at all
but where there is genuine occult I would still not send my daughter there
or anybody that I know because this even for a man if he's in a certain condition
it will affect him if he is not of a certain nature but women is much more
susceptible to this each such a thing happening in a temple or not is a
questionable thing but this is not about protecting all men from somebody because
this is the nature of our biology we cannot ignore it all right now talking
about sati nobody can endure such a thing talking about three words will
dismantle your marriage because three words may happen in moments of anger and
disagreement and something and it's over this is another thing altogether sati as
a thing came up again when only when men were killed in battle when men were
killed in battle when other people entered the towns what happened to the
woman was worse than death because of that they got into this mode when my
husband who is a soldier dies I kill myself because what happens after
that is worse than death so that came from that and somebody exploited and
stretched it well we stopped that reasonably I think almost almost totally
stopped that that's a different thing if you think I'm speaking for not
equality of women he I don't want to say anything I don't want to defend that
because my life is not about looking at someone as man and woman as I said only
only in a certain context of our life we have to recognize the gender of a person
in rest of the time why should we even recognize the gender of a person a human
being is a human being only in certain aspects of our life somebody is a man
somebody is a woman all the time thinking I am a man you're a woman is
drives to madness I'll make this pass but I'll just make
one of if you if you say you have to enter heaven with your wife right you
can enter heaven with your wife but you are netted a particular temple with your
wife I don't think that's fair no no no no no no you can't have the ion Lee
mentioned the heaven business not because I believe there is a heaven no
no I did not talk about the heaven because I think there is a heaven and
you're going to heaven I know you are not going to any such place but I am
saying the source the society and the culture tried to control the natural
urge for a man to dominate the woman with these kind of things that's all I
said I said girl you talked about self enrichment and self consciousness and
you were going to give us some tools I think we call got distracted we nervous
have heard about the tools that you could offer us
it's like this the nature of your existence your experience and your
perception is right now like this you know that you're here right now because
you can see you can hear you can smell you can taste and you can touch suppose
right now you just dozed off a little bit you are still very alive and
everything is going on here but if you doze off a little bit
first thing is I will disappear for sure if you do somehow everybody will
disappear if you go more even you will disappear this is the nature of human
experience simply because the five sense organs have shut down suddenly the world
is obliterated even you are obliterated or in other words your entire experience
of life right now is limited to five sense organs these sense organs in the
very nature of things cannot see anything the way it is they can only see
everything in comparison you know what is light only because you know darkness
you know what is sound only because you know silence you know this only because
of that because see right now if I touch this my hand says this cup is cool now
it is not so it is because of the way my body temperature is and thinking this is
cool if I lower my body temperature and touch this this would be warm to me so
your entire perception is by comparison perception by comparison is good enough
for survival process it is not good enough for knowing the nature of life it
will help you to survive in the world these five sense organs will help you to
survive in the world but it will not give you any sense about what this life
is about so if you have to know life the way it is not the way its projected to
be I say not the wage is projected to be
see right now let's say you're six feet tall now in this society you stand like
a tall man you walk like a tall man you feel like a tall man you are a tall man
you went to another society where everybody is 8 feet tall suddenly you
feel like a short man stand like I start my short man walk like one and feel like
one and you're 1 isn't it so what you know by comparison is only good enough
for survival in a given situation it is not good enough instruments to know life
in its essence so if you want to know something more
you have to enhance your perception right now everything that you carry in
your mind as information is all these comparisons and 1/2 bits and pieces when
I say bits and pieces right now you can see this part of my hand that means you
cannot see this part of my hand this is not just with my hand even if you take a
grain of sand you if you see one part you cannot see the other part this is
the nature of human perception when when this question came up when I don't know
ask this question some time ago when I was a child I stared and stared trying
to bend my perception and on this because I saw I can see only a part of
it how does he the other part you won't believe this by the time I was 11 years
of age I would walk in the jungle alone by myself for three to four days till my
bread lasted alone and I learned to see in the dark absolutely as good as the
animals and not just walking I caught dozens of snakes in the dock they
couldn't believe that I can see as good as them but I could pick them up because
it is just a question of enhancing your perception and a human being is capable
of this because in this on this planet we have the most evolved neurological
system but because of cerebral activity which is new equal I mean
evolutionary scale it is a new happening because of that we are too enamored with
our thought and emotion we don't feel so many things but actually you have a
better neurology system than any creature on this planet
do you agree with me but if you want to smell something out we will build beer
bring a dog if you want something else you look at something else because they
don't have this thought process they're able to just be keen on how they
perceive their senses but human beings ability to sense anything has gone down
because they are completely going on with their own thought their own thought
and emotion keeps them busy for their entire life their psychological reality
has overshadowed their existential reality this is the biggest problem so
when we talk about life we are not talking about a psychological space
today if you say life if somebody says my life you are supposed to think he is
talking about his work he's talking about his family he's talking about his
car he's talking about his wealth he's not talking about life life means this
what is throbbing inside and keeping this alive right now this is life isn't
it but when people say life you are supposed to understand that he's not
talking about life he's actually talking about his job or wealth or money a
business or something because your idea of life has become purely survival the
idea of evolution or the possibility of this evolution is that a human being is
capable of rising beyond their survival process this is the reason why survival
doesn't fulfill you for every other creature their survival requirements are
taken care of this is fine they have no other issue eating sleeping reproducing
their life is complete till these things happen to you you think these are big
things but once they happen to you they don't mean anything you want something
more to happen if that something more happens you want something more if
that's something more happens you want something more if you look at this what
you want is not more what you want is all and if you want all you should not
go by extending physical boundaries because physical can
never be all isn't it you're annoyingly you're desiring for the infinite but you
think you will get there by counting one two three four five no you will only
become endless counting you will only become endless counting now because we
are looking at everything in comparison in many ways we have fragmented the
world even our own species between men and women and everything and everything
is divided because we are perceiving everything through sense perception we
don't have a life perception so if you have to transcend the limitations of
your senses it is not that senses are bad without that you wouldn't even know
that you exist senses are fundamental without it you cannot survive but once
your human survival is not good enough something more needs to happen for that
something more some striving is needed you must look at this properly anything
in your life which is about survival has come to you just naturally see suppose
you got lost in a jungle as an infant no contact with any human society something
edible came in front of you would you first try you use then your nostrils
then your eyes and accidentally find your mouth no anything concerned with
survival you just know isn't it but you wouldn't know how to read how to write
and language this that many other things you would not know because anything
beyond survival will not come to you unless you strive for it so to turn
inward that means why I am saying turn inward is because this sense organs are
essentially outward bound but the experience of your life is happening
from within you do you see me hello all of shit do you see me even if you're not
listening it's okay but do you see me can you use one hand and point out where
I am
you've got it all wrong you know I am a mystic know this light is falling upon
me reflecting going through your lenses inverted image in the retina you know
the entire story so where do you see me you see me within yourself where do you
hear me you hear me within yourself where have you seen the whole world
within yourself everything that ever happened to you
light and darkness happens within you pain and pleasure happens within you joy
and misery happens within you agony and ecstasy happens within you just about
anything that ever happened to you happened only within you you have never
experienced anything outside of you right now if somebody touches your hand
you think you're experiencing their hand no you're only experiencing the
sensations in your hand isn't it now your entire experience is within when it
is so what happens within you at least what happens within you must happen the
way you want it isn't it if you happen just the way you want it would you keep
yourself in the highest level of pleasantness or unpleasantness that's
unless the choice for yourself is definitely pleasantness what you want
for your neighbor may be debatable but what you want for yourself is very very
clear but that one thing is not happening why I'm talking about
pleasantness ease there is substantial medical and scientific evidence today
that if you remain Pleasant without a moment of anger anxiety irritation
agitation nothing for 24 hours if you remain like this they are saying your
ability to use your intelligence can go up by 100% in 24 hours time so
pleasantness or joy or bliss is not a goal by itself it is a fundamental
necessity in the sense only if your experience of life is pleasant
and if there is no fear of suffering will you walk full stride otherwise fear
of suffering will always cripple you in so many ways but today it's become like
this people well even spiritual leaders are going about talking saying that
peace of mind is the ultimate goal of life such people will only rest in peace
I I was to speak at Tel Aviv and I'm flying out of Atlanta in United States
and I am to land there at 11:00 in the morning and speak at 6:30 in the evening
I end up landing there because of some flight delays at 6:00 in the evening so
I am quickly changing in the airport because in these 35 years have not been
late to a single event or appointment I have managed this always so I am rushing
and I am famished I am super hungry because I'm flying an
American airline there's nothing edible on the plane but I don't have a moment
to grab something so I just went straight and to my amazement I found I
am speaking I'd have fine restaurant that doesn't
happen at all to me I thought this is it when I am so hungry this is the place to
go and people were already coming in some people greeting me and one man
comes in says Shalom I asked him what does it mean he says this is the highest
way of greeting I said well that's your opinion what does it mean he said no no
this is really the highest variability all right but what does the word mean I
said it means peace then I say why speech the highest way of greeting
unless you're born in Middle East you come in South India in the morning
you come and say peace I'll say what's wrong with you I'm saying if you deprive
yourself of something for long enough suddenly slow little rise to heaven if
you have not eaten for five days let you say let us say your favorite God
appeared what will you ask food food will raise to heaven everything that you
don't have will raise to heaven being peaceful it's not the ultimate goal of
life it is the most fundamental requirement today if you want to enjoy
your dinner if not ecstatic at least you must be peaceful isn't it if you want to
take a walk on the street and enjoy it you must at least be peaceful if you
want to live with this handful of people in your family you must at least be
peaceful if not ecstatic isn't it if you want to enjoy the few things that you do
in your life the most fundamental thing basic requirement is at least your
peaceful but today people are saying it is the ultimate goal of life peace of
mind that's never going to happen because they have not understood the
simplest aspects of life for example your mind can be the simplest aspect
it's like this because people are falling out of scriptures this is the
biggest problem I was about to tell a joke but I don't know was serious
this happened in Tennessee you know we our Center in United States in Tennessee
it's a hardcore religious place people said Saku you will get killed in no time
but we are flourishing in Tennessee doing very well because they can't
figure out who I am I go out to this into this little town and I'm new there
and I'm smiling at everybody and greeting people on the street small
little town one big man over six feet tall this wide comes and stands just six
inches away from me looks down on me like this and said God
loves us I look at put him and said the way you
are only God can love you he has to love the mistakes he's made before he
realized he takes time to get things by then I'm gone of course
so in Tennessee every family has a huge Bible not small big once this big
leather-bound the bigger the family the richer the family the bigger the size of
the Bible almost every home has Ten Commandments carved on the stone most of
it goes from South India this carvings so it's good business I watched the
sensei book it's good for our economy Commandments or no Commandments so this
little boy eight year old boy went to school in on East Coast and came back
home in the vacation so he was just flipping through this big book and a dry
leaf fell out the boy started screaming mama mama and see what I found his
mother said what have you found my son she'd just come and see what I found so
the mother came running to see what then he's pointed at the leaf and said Adams
underwear
a lot of people the reason why something so simple and life oriented has become
complicated is because people are falling out of scriptures what is it
that makes you think thousand two thousand five thousand years ago people
were far more intelligent than you and me
why is it so is it not such a retrograde great step that you think people
thousand two thousand five thousand years ago were much smarter than you and
me is it so is it in line with the evolutionary process I'm asking no but
this is the thing we want to change today with everything around us we
handle it scientifically using various technologies it is equally important
that you handle your inner nature scientifically you know logically
correct manner and with tools now your thing is give me the tools these are
subjective in nature if it was a screwdriver I have come with a bagful
and given it to you this is subjective what is subjective means it is something
with it right now everything of you is outward that is all your five senses are
outward bound isn't it you cannot turn them inward you can't roll your eyeballs
inward and scan yourself you can hear this so much activity here you cannot
hear this an ant crawls upon this hand you can feel it so much blood flowing
you cannot feel it in the very nature of things your sense organs are outward
bound if you want genuine tools of transformation I would say if you
dedicate 28 to 30 hours of focused time okay 28 to 30 hours of focus time we
will give you tools to experience or touch a dimension which is inward inward
is not of thought inward is not contemplation what you call as mind and
body is very outward because body is something that you accumulated
over a period of time from outside isn't it the soil that you walk upon is what
is sitting here is the body if you get it now from me your life will transform
otherwise one day we'll get it from the maggots yes what you call as my mind is
also an accumulation of impressions that we have taken and this is accumulation
of food this is accumulation of impressions but between these two heaps
of impressions and food somewhere there is something else which is which makes
all this happen if that comes into your living experience then you will not need
any guidance from anybody to get you there I am asking not 12 years of
sadhana I'm asking 30 hours of focus time
you must do that much to yourself you deserve that you know when we changed I
think of you no change bring uniforms to our religion and we all are you know
taught that in Vedas it's written that soul has no gender and so you know we
saw this that the Preta being abolished and we saw of it already marriage also
so why don't you all as are never saying think about you know the entry of women
in temples the fundamentally in this society there is no such thing as
discrimination there are more baby temples in the country than anything
else every village has it but certain temples have taken this position mainly
hill temples this as I said because of a certain reason in the past it has to
change now no question about that but if there are occult temples even if they
allow view I please beg the woman please don't go there by law if you are allowed
by norm if you're allowed still you should not go there if you have any
sense so my question is to both guru ji as well as enough what's your view on
our leader Prime Minister and I would like to ask both of you
cytology if you are the Prime Minister tomorrow
what is one change which you would like to bring in our country well I am not
planning to get you the Parliament either about my opinion about a leader
see I'm not a member of any political party nor am i a fan of any political
leader nor am i a fan of any political leader but I have to say this
I'm politically conscious maybe for the last nearly 50 years now I've been
reading newspapers for 50 years so in this I find now it looks like we have
the most determined leadership ever or the right are the wrong you it's not for
me to take a call whether they're right or wrong at least India is topmost on
their mind this is very heartening for me and because I have have been in
certain situations with variety of political leaders in the past it always
scared me that for 24 hours if you are with them they don't have one single
thought on their mind today what they can do for this country sitting in such
a responsible position which which kind of you know really shook me how is it
somebody that is heading a nation with such a huge population and a million
problems doesn't think today what can be done at least today you have a
leadership where nation is on the top most in their mind
but do we have to agree with everything that they do not necessarily can we
disagree with them 100% we can if what is being done is not right for the
country or not spoke about this prior today morning also where I was I was
telling them nation is an idea without bringing pride and emotion towards that
you are not going to make it happen this is a crime we have committed in 1947
when there was a euphoria of emotion and thing for the nation people are willing
to die for it that was the time to enshrine the nation in everybody's
hearts we should not we did not do that we had fanciful ideas and we kind of we
did not know what to do probably in retrospect in in in post-mortem we can
say many things we don't know what was their mindset and what was happening
whatever they lost control over that they lost that opportunity whenever
there is strife in a nation that is the time when you can once again reshape a
country when people are comfortable unfortunately most people will not be
conscious we have to build a humanity which will be in at most comfort and
still conscious that is when we really build a good nation but still we are in
a place where unless we are in a strife we are not conscious of the larger
well-being of what needs to happen so in many ways today even if there is no real
strife on the street there is strife I don't know who is going to be active in
two months small issues when I say small I am NOT saying small in significance I
am saying small in size see a child falls into your tube well it is small in
size but not small in significance our life is a life okay if it is my life
it's significant so it is the same way it's significant for everybody's life it
may be small in size but it is significant for what it is so like this
there are a thousand issues in the country and for the first time we have
mediums through which all these issues can enter everybody's heads and
everybody can think about it so there is strife there is going to be strife in
this country when I say strife don't think something has to happen on the
street no it needs to happen strife needs to happen in people's
hearts and minds so that is anyway going to happen when this is happening this is
the time to build that sense of pride but pride should not become prejudice
it's very important to build that pride in who we are and not developing
prejudice against those who we think are not part of us too this is a very subtle
process which needs to be done ken is there some ideal way of doing it no we
will have to mess around with it it is that's the only way it will happen but
we are a new generation is coming young people whose thought process whose way
of looking at life has changed in many ways today for the first time in the
history of humanity more human beings are able to think for themselves than
ever before whether the thinking right or wrong is not a debate but their
thinking at one time a scripture would think for you a guru would think for you
an elder would think for you one man in the village would think for you today
everybody is beginning to think for themselves once this happens people will
become in such a way unless something is logically correct they cannot swallow it
if you make them swallow it they cannot digest it this will happen right now you
are still a generation who still willing to acknowledge an authority and try to
digest something which is not logically correct but your children will be such
even if God comes and speaks if he doesn't make sense to him then they will
reject it where we are just on the verge of that so this is a time this is a good
time because now we are moving to a place where
only truth can be the authority Authority cannot be the truth anymore
doesn't matter where the authority is coming from this evolution is anyway
going to happen in the next in my estimate I am saying somewhere between
next 20 to 40 years time all the heavens will collapse when I say heavens will
collapse do you know what's in heaven you must know more in Hindu heaven the
food is very good if you're a foodie that's where you must
go Nala himself cooks for you the best chef in another place there are those
white ground ladies who float around legless ladies who float around in the
clouds if you like that kind of ambience you go there in another place you will
encounter virgin problems if you like that you can go there but what do you
have to do to get there this happened in Alabama you heard of Alabama it's a
special state in America in a Sunday school a Sunday school teacher was going
off full on full fire and in his rhetoric he asked what do you have to do
to go to heaven little Mary who was sitting in the front
row said if I scrub the church floor every Sunday I will go to heaven he said
absolutely another little girl stood up and said if I share 50% of my pocket
money with the less privileged friend I will go to heaven correct another little
boy said if I help other people I will go to heaven correct little Tommy in the
back bench stood up and said you gotta die first
that's a qualification you got to die first
when you died depending upon what culture you are we will either burn you
bury you or cut you and throw you to the birds one thing is if you have not done
anything eco-friendly I am assuring you at least when you die we will do
something eco-friendly about you we will put you back to earth it's a very good
thing to do if you take this body and go away somewhere this is the worst thing
to do because you're taking away the topsoil so we you will leave your body
here and go to heaven you went to heaven without a body what are you going to do
with good food and virgins this what I want to know when you don't have a body
so I am saying heavens will collapse
once people start asking logical questions heavens will collapse when
heavens collapse we have managed humanity for a long time telling them
doesn't matter your suffering here God is looking at everything your suffering
one day he will reward you up there with this we have been managing humanity so
this will not work when this doesn't work what will people do one big thing
that will happen is we will move towards chemicals to be peaceful we already need
chemicals to be joyful we need chemicals to be healthful we
need chemicals 70% of the United States population is on prescription medication
the other 30% of course buying it off the backstreets just just see in the
last 25 years how many more people are consuming alcohol how many more people
are consuming drugs on this planet it's gone up 10,000 percent this is simply
because in their minds heaven is collapsing I must and you must
understand this that somewhere else it will be good is going away they want to
have it good here unless you teach that unless you teach them
how to simply sit here and be bliss doubt about your existence itself the
very life within you is an ecstatic process if you don't teach them this 90
percent will move towards drugs and alcohol in a huge way in the next 25 to
30 years this is not a moral issue for me I have no moral judgment on that it
is just that as a generation of people we must understand we hold this space on
the planet just for a brief period of time there are two fundamental
responsibilities one is we must leave the world a little better than the way
it was given to us by the previous generation this we cannot do no matter
if we do all the right things from today it will take another 150 to 200 years to
turn back the damage we have already cost so no way we can leave the world
better than the way it was when we came in so in that responsibility we can't
fulfill we can start the process now that's all
the next important responsibility we have as a generation is the next
generation that we produce must be at least one not better than us but if 90
percent of humanity's on some kind of chemicals believe me genetically we will
produce a generation which is less than us this is a crime against humanity so
one important aspect that every nation has to take care of including ours is
that we must teach people how to know well-being within themselves
unfortunately right now we think if you give money or food or medicine it is
service if I teach you how to live joyfully it is not service we have still
seen in this country the most important thing in the ancient India was you know
how to be within you this was the most respected thing because we know what
will come out of this when you have no concerns of fear when you have no fear
of suffering that is when you will walk your life full stride that is when great
human beings are produced if we want to produce a great nation
nation society these are just words there are only individual human beings
only if you produce great human beings will there be a great society and a
great nation and a great world Sadhguru I have to thank you at this point
thin line between imagination and perception there were times when one
could actually pick up a lot of information about things around us like
the energy and sometimes it was like is it my fear or is it everybody else's
fear the collective consciousness what validates that within me that is it
me is it imagination is it perception
see there are five dimensions of receptivity in the human being or five
major points of receptivity in the human brain itself these five dimensions are
referred to as centers of sleep centers of imagination centers of memory centers
of right perception centers of perversion everything that comes to you
how you perceive it depends on through which center you took it in you will see
if you have two children at home same genetics same food probably went to the
same school one goes like this another goes like this you can't figure how did
these two people come from the same father and mother because it is the way
they perceive it from where they receive it same things if you receive from
different dimensions it becomes different things within you this is the
reason why this may look like a little thing but I'm telling you this is the
reason why forever they've been stressing on a live guru
because when you walk a terrain that you're not familiar with it's best to
have a guide who's walked the terrain see I have read every I trek in Tibet
and Nepal this Sherpa who walks with me he is illiterate he doesn't know
anything spirituality nothing but we're going in
the mountains there two pathways he just says I just go behind him if I think I'm
much smarter than him and I say no like this I will go maybe that's my last day
you understand in the mountains he is the boss he knows the terrain he's lived
there he's grown up there he has a certain sense with all my education I
have a sense of direction I'm an aviator I have a certain sense of direction I
know the mathematics I know the geometry of it everything but still when I am in
the mountains if he says hmm I go this way he doesn't
even care to tell me said guru come this way he just says I just follow him it's
sensible to do that when you're walking in unfamiliar terrain that's the best
thing to do thank you
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