(Singing) I know my God has made the way for me.
I know my God has made the way for me.
(Singing) I'm not moved by what I feel. I don't live by
what I see, because my God has made the way for me.
KENNETH: Hello, everybody. We're Kenneth and Gloria
Copeland. Welcome to the Believer's Voice of Victory
broadcast. Father, we thank You for this program--
GLORIA: Thank You, Lord. KENNETH: --today. And we give
You praise and honor for it. We uplift the name of Jesus, and we
worship You, in Jesus' name, amen. GLORIA: Amen. KENNETH:
Praise God, Gloria. GLORIA: You look sharp today in your blue--
KENNETH: Thank you, sweetheart. GLORIA: --shirt. KENNETH: Amen.
GLORIA: Blue eyes, blue shirt, blue cuffs. KENNETH: Today's
message, choosing to believe the love that God has for you.
GLORIA: Oh, yeah. KENNETH: This is big, particularly when you're
under a lot of pressure. In fact, I got up out of bed last
night. I had a high-pressure day yesterday that wasn't any fun at
all. And I finally got up out of bed, went--got my Bible and
turned to these very scriptures to believe that love. "I
believe--I trust Your love for me. I trust Your love," in the
name of Jesus. For you choose to believe what the Word says--
GLORIA: Amen. KENNETH: --particularly when you don't
want to, and there's just--just an oppression of Satan about
you, well, just slam him with the Word of God. Praise God.
GLORIA: That's right. KENNETH: Developing a lifestyle of love.
God is love. God is love is God is love. Amen. Put the Word of
God in your eyes, in your ears, to get it down inside your
spirit. Amen. In fact, that's what this ministry's all about.
But I want you to know, it--we don't just get on here and teach
and preach about it. We have to do it at home. It--this is a
lifestyle. This is not a "teach one thing and do all this
other." No, this is a lifestyle. Amen. We make-- GLORIA: That's
right. KENNETH: --a declaration of faith together. Put the Word
of God, the love of God, the Word of love--ha-ha--first place
in your life. Praise God. So get your Bible. Don't forget
to get the downloads, kcm.org/download. Amen.
Amen. Gloria and I'll be back in just a moment.
KENNETH: Opening to the 17th chapter of John's
gospel. And it's going to have to dawn on you that this book is
not a book about somebody. This book is somebody. (Audience
Agrees) John 17. And I want you to look at the 23rd verse. Jesus
Himself is praying right before He went to the cross. "I--" Oh,
wait a minute. Back up. Read the 20th verse. "Neither pray I for
these alone, but for them also which have believed on me
through their word." Now, either directly or indirectly,
everybody in this room, everybody online, everybody
that's born again came to Jesus either directly or indirectly
through the--the people that were sitting in that room.
(Audience Agrees) Amen. (Audience "Amens") I--so He was
praying this for you and me. "I in them, thou in me, that they
may be made perfect in one; that the world--the world--that the
world may know that thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as
thou hast loved me." AUDIENCE: Whoo! (Whistles) KENNETH: The
first time I ever saw that, I had--I had just, only a few days
before, enrolled at Oral Roberts University. I never read that in
my life. I'd never seen anything like that. Oh, no. When I found
it, I thought--I just--I had just a few days before I just
found out the power of agreement. And I said, "Well,
Jesus prayed this prayer. I'm going through here. I'm going to
set myself in agreement with everything He prayed." AUDIENCE:
Amen. KENNETH: "And I found that 20th verse, you know, that He
prayed for me and He prayed in faith, so I'm going to agree
with it." And I--I got--I got going down through there, and I
got to choking on some of the things that He said. And I came
down to that one. What? You mean to tell me that God loves me as
much as He does Jesus? I--I said it out loud. I said, "If this
was not written in red, I--I couldn't believe this." I didn't
know anything about new creature. I'd never heard that.
I was just an old sinner saved by grace. I'd heard that a lot.
I was raised in a Baptist church, and everybody said that.
Ah, you know, I mean, I--sounded right to me. I didn't know the
difference. But I got to looking at that. He said that. The Son
of the living God said that. I--I--I cannot--I can't stand
here and say that that's not true for me. I have to agree
with that because Jesus, my Savior, said that out of His own
mouth, and He was praying when he said it. (Audience "Amens")
And I was shaken all over. I was really--I was really afraid to
say it. I didn't know anything about faith at that time. Oh, a
little. Not much. I was afraid to say it. And I'm walking
around in my little room there, and--but I had--I had the Book
right up here with me. And I said, "Well, here goes, I'm
going to say it. I want to thank You, Father--" Oh, my goodness.
"I want to thank You--" Oh, hoo-hoo-hoo. "God loves me just
as much as He loved Jesus!" AUDIENCE: Whoo! (Laughter)
KENNETH: And I'm telling you, I was trembling. But, oh, my
spirit rose up on the inside of me and took a big long drink of
that. I'm telling you, it thrilled me on the inside. And I
just kept saying it. I just kept walking around that room, "God
loves Kenneth. God loves Kenneth. God loves me!"
AUDIENCE: Amen. Amen. KENNETH: "Stupid, ignorant, dumb-dumb me.
God loves me!" AUDIENCE: Amen. KENNETH: And I found out later I
wasn't stupid. I got the mind of Christ. (Audience "Amens") But I
didn't know anything about the new birth. I didn't know I was a
new creature. I just kept saying it, "God loves Kenneth. God
loves Kenneth. God--God loves me!" Hallelujah. And I'm telling
you, before that day was over with, it got to me. It got to
me. I got so thrilled I didn't want to say anything else. "God
loves Kenneth." And then, you know, of course, next thing I
did, I come running in there to Gloria. I said, "Gloria, look at
this. God loves us!" Ha-ha-ha. She said, "Ooh." (Laughter) It
was so real and so good. But you need to do that. You need to
hear yourself say it. And you need to put your eyes on it, and
you say it because Jesus prayed it, not because you feel one way
or another. And you choose to believe it. Now I want to talk
to you about that--that part of it there just for a moment. You
believe it in your heart, and you say it with your mouth.
AUDIENCE: Yes! KENNETH: We know that. Mark 11:23 and 24. While
I'm talking about this, look at the 13th chapter of John's
gospel. You're right there close. We were--this was--this
was a while, just a short time before--well, sometime before we
went to Tulsa and enrolled at ORU. So it was just strictly--it
was just absolutely strictly the Lord that led me this day to do
what I did. I had every symptom of the flu in my body. I mean,
you know, my hair hurt. I mean, I'm hurting all over. I drove
Gloria to the cleaners, and I'm--I'm sitting out there in
front while she went into the cleaners to get done whatever
she was going to do. And I--I'm sitting there, and I thought,
"You know, I believe I'm going to let her drive home. I'm so
sick, I--this just--I just don't believe I'm going to be able to
drive." And my Bible was laying there in the seat next to me,
and I had opened it up to I Peter 2:24. And I'm telling you,
I knew so little about this at this--and I picked it up. Now,
the Spirit of the Lord was leading me here because I--at
this time, I didn't have--I had no teaching at all from this
standpoint. I'd had a little, but not like what we're talking
about now. And I just said it out loud. I just propped the
Bible up there on the steering wheel, and I put my finger on
that verse of scripture. I picked that Bible up and held it
up and put my finger on I Peter 2:24. I said out loud, I read
it, "himself bore my sins in his own body on the tree, that I,
being dead to sin, should live unto righteousness: by whose
stripes I was healed." AUDIENCE: Was. KENNETH: I said out loud,
"Lord, I choose to believe this!" (Audience "Amens") Well,
I certainly wasn't saying it because I felt healed. I felt
everything but healed. But I said, "I choose to believe
this!" Read it again. "I choose to believe this!" About that
time, Gloria walked out. By the time she got in the car, I was
feeling well enough to drive. I mean, it hadn't been probably,
oh, maybe 10 minutes at the most. And like I said, I mean,
you know, I'm a scriptural illiterate, James. I didn't know
nothing about what I was doing here. But I was being led by the
Spirit of God. And I said, again, "I choose to believe
that." And I showed that to Gloria, and I said, "Gloria, I
choose to believe that." She said, "Okay." I drove us home.
By the time I got home, I was feeling pretty good. And I
thought, "You know, I believe I need a little supper here." And
I went to bed. I wasn't a hundred percent, but I woke up
the next morning, and I'm telling you, every symptom was
gone. AUDIENCE: Praise God. Praise the Lord. KENNETH: Now,
what happened? I chose to believe that whether I felt like
it or not. (Audience "Amens") Amen. And, that--that is--that
is the foundation that all faith rests upon. AUDIENCE:
Hallelujah. KENNETH: Let every man be a liar, but God is truth.
(Audience Agrees) Amen? What He said in that Book is the truth.
AUDIENCE: Amen. KENNETH: Amen. Well, how can I say I'm healed
when it's obvious I'm sick? Obvious to whom? (Indistinct
Responses) "Well, Brother Copeland, I mean, it's--you
know, look at this. Now, if I was to say I was healed, I'd be
lying about it." It's not true. That's not true. "I've got this
thing right here." No. You're the one lying. "No, I'm not
lying." Yeah, you're lying. You are lying. Because what's on
your arm is not truth. AUDIENCE: Amen. KENNETH: It's a fact, but
it's not the truth. AUDIENCE: Amen, amen. KENNETH: The truth
is I Peter 2:24. AUDIENCE: Amen. Amen. (Audience Agrees) KENNETH:
The truth is Isaiah 53. AUDIENCE: Amen. (Audience
Agrees) KENNETH: That's the truth about that. And if you
choose to believe the truth, the truth will change that fact.
AUDIENCE: Amen. That's good. (Applause) KENNETH: Now, it
becomes more and more powerful and more powerful the more you
become aware that you're believing love. AUDIENCE: Amen.
KENNETH: See, you started to say I was believing God. No, no.
You're--yeah, you're believing God. You're believing love.
AUDIENCE: Yes, sir. KENNETH: And for you to have the idea that
God wants you to keep that thing on your arm another six months
is a lie from hell. AUDIENCE: That's right. (Audience Agrees)
KENNETH: Don't you ever even let yourself think about that. I
want to ask you one question. Did Jesus ever tell anybody,
Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John, or did any of the apostles ever
tell anybody in the book of Acts or the rest of the New
Testament, "Now, you're going to have to keep this for another
little while"? AUDIENCE: No. No. KENNETH: It is not in there!
(Audience Agrees) And if it was the will of God, there would be
an example of it in the Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John, or Acts.
(Audience Agrees) AUDIENCE: Amen. KENNETH: And if it isn't
in there, it isn't in there. (Audience Agrees) Amen. So don't
make that up! It's a lot harder to make that up if you're
saying, "Love wanted me to stay sick for a while." You can say,
"God--" and, you know, maybe kind of be callous to it. But
you get to start saying, "Love wants me sick"? That ain't going
to work. This is the reason it's so important to renew your
thinking, renew your mind-- AUDIENCE: Amen. KENNETH: --to
the fact that God is love and love is God. AUDIENCE: Amen.
KENNETH: Amen. (Audience "Amens") Hallelujah. Now--
AUDIENCE: Set you free. KENNETH: --just--just a little bit more
here. I told you to look in the 13th chapter of John. Say, "God
loves me." (Audience Repeats) "I believe it in my heart, and I
say it with my mouth. God loves me, gave Himself for me. God
loves Kenneth." Hallelujah. John 13:23. Ha-ha, I tell you, I love
this. "Now there was leaning on Jesus' bosom one of his
disciples, whom Jesus loved." Now, I want you to notice what
John is doing here. He's not bragging on himself. John was
there when Jesus preached Mark 11:23 and 24. He was there. He
was the only one that didn't run out on Jesus. AUDIENCE: That's
right. KENNETH: Something going on here. He outlived all the
rest of them. The apostle of love. They tried more than once
to kill him. Records show that they boiled him in oil. What
they would do, they'd put somebody in a boiling cauldron
and then with a grappling hook, reach in there and just pull
their bones out, and all the flesh just falls off of the
bones. Those are really nice people back in those days, you
understand? (Laughter) This was a long time before political
correctness. (Laughter) And it wasn't a figure of speech when
they said they're going to boil you in oil. (Laughter) And they
did that with John and put the hook down in there, and he came
out whole. AUDIENCE: Praise God! KENNETH: Well, see, that's the
same miracle as the Hebrew children in the fiery furnace.
It is the same-- AUDIENCE: Same. KENNETH: --same thing. You
couldn't get to him. Now, I want you to notice--I want you to
notice what the man is doing now. "There was leaning on
Jesus' bosom one of his disciples, whom Jesus loved.
Simon Peter therefore beckoned to him, that he should ask who
it should be of whom he spake." He was talking about the one
that would betray him. Now, get the picture. Ha-ha-ha. John--ha.
"There was leaning on Jesus' bosom--" ha-ha-ha "--the one
that Jesus loved." He had faith that Jesus loved him. AUDIENCE:
Amen. KENNETH: This is the same man that wrote, "We have known
and believed the love that God has to us." He started this
before Jesus ever went to the cross. He believed that. He
believed that He loved him. Now, get the picture. Peter didn't
come up to Jesus and say, "Sir, who is it?" He was afraid of
Him. So where did he go? He went to John and said, "Ask Him. Ask
Him. Come on, man, ask Him who it is." And John said, "You
ask." "I ain't gonna ask Him." (Laughter) "You're His
favorite." And John said, "Yeah, that's me. You got that right."
(Laughs) Now, see, all the time, he's--he's not bragging on
himself. He's confessing it with his mouth. AUDIENCE: Amen.
KENNETH: "I am the one that Jesus loves. He loves me." He
had known and believed the love. AUDIENCE: Amen. KENNETH: Can you
see that? AUDIENCE: Yes. KENNETH: There was an intimacy
there. And Jesus answered him. All right. Now then, let's go
over to the 19th chapter. And I want you to look at the 26th
verse. 19:26--Verse 25. "Now there stood by the cross of
Jesus his mother, his mother's sister, Mary the wife of
Cleophas, and Mary Magdalene. When Jesus therefore saw his
mother, and the disciple standing by, whom he loved, he
said unto his mother, Woman, behold thy son! Then saith he to
the disciple, Behold thy mother! And from that hour that disciple
took her unto his own home." Amen. AUDIENCE: Amen.
KENNETH: I'm--by the Spirit of God, I'm endeavoring to
impress on you and me the importance of renewing
our mind that God is love and He loves me.
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