(Singing) I know my God has made the way for me.
I know my God has made the way for me.
ANNOUNCER: Worship opens the door to your soul, and that
allows change to take place in your life. Join Gloria and
Kellie Copeland today on the Believer's Voice of Victory for
more understanding of the power of worship. Here's Gloria.
GLORIA: Hello, everybody. Welcome to the Believer's Voice
of Victory. Kellie's back with us today, and she's
got some good words for us. We're looking
forward to hearing you, Kellie. KELLIE: Thank you, Mother. I
like doing the broadcast with you. GLORIA: Well, I like doing
it with you. KELLIE: We've had--we've had some weeks now
over the last year and a half or so that we've just been going
deeper and deeper and deeper into some things. GLORIA: That's
right. It's been good, a really good job. KELLIE: And you're
awesome. She's the best, so--that's my opinion-- GLORIA:
Well, thank you. KELLIE: --and the truth. I know you share it
because I get that--those messages that people say, "I
love your mom. She's my favorite." GLORIA: Aw, that's a
blessing to hear. KELLIE: But you know, last week, we talked
about knowing Jesus in His Word. You know, I think there's ways
to know Jesus that we haven't even--Jesus is the only way to
the Father, but there are open doors to Him like prayer, open
doors to Him like the Word. Just being still is an open door to
Jesus. GLORIA: The wonderful thing is the door is always
open. KELLIE: Open. GLORIA: Uh-huh. KELLIE: That is good,
Mom. GLORIA: That's good. KELLIE: His door is always open.
And, you know--but is ours? Is our door always open? GLORIA: So
we need to keep ours open. KELLIE: We need to do a little
work on our door. You know, in Revelation, which I'll probably
mention this again later, but in Revelation 3, it says--and this
is a letter to the churches. It says He's knocking. And the
other day I thought, "Why is He knocking?" It--He--we belong to
Him. What's He knocking on? GLORIA: He's wanting attention.
KELLIE: He is-- GLORIA: We need to listen to Him. KELLIE: That's
right. He's in our heart. He's in our spirit, but our soul can
shut Him out. And that's when we get in trouble, is we try to do
life keeping Him over here-- GLORIA: Yeah. KELLIE: --and not
letting Him deep into our soul which makes Him have to knock
and say, "Let me in, let me in," you know? GLORIA: His door is
always open. KELLIE: His door is always open. So we're going
to--we're looking at--this week at something. Worship will open
those doors. So I'm excited for you because of how my life
changed when I became a worshiper. And I've told the
story on here before, but I came up, you know, in a hard place in
my life and I just--I came up on this one scripture. It was Psalm
19:12, "How can I know all the sins lurking in my heart?
Cleanse me from these hidden faults," or weak places. You
could say, "weak places." I guess I say this scripture all
the time because it was really an open door to my change. And
He led me to that scripture, but opening my heart to that
scripture which opened my heart for so much change in my life
that was needed in me--regardless of what anybody
else does, you can only do you. GLORIA: That's right. KELLIE:
You can only change you. But if God can get to you, He can
change your circumstances. If He can get to your heart, and by
that, I mean your soul--now, if you don't know Him, He needs to
get into your spirit first. But if you have--you've asked Jesus
into your life, into your spirit, He's--your spirit is
brand-new, but your mind, your will, and your emotions have to
be renewed by the Word, by worship, by being in His
presence. And so when I found that scripture, it began to open
my life up even to more change. But before that, before I had
any change in my life, He just dumped--that's the only word I
know to use that is accurate because it was so sudden and so
overwhelming, this need to worship. And I had never had
that before. I mean, I sang and I loved the Lord. I've always
loved the Lord. And I'd be in church and I'd lift my hands,
and my heart was toward Him. I mean, I love the Lord.
Sometimes, when I was in the worship service, sometimes I was
thinking about myself, you know, or something else or, "Did I
sing good?" or "Did I sing bad?" or "What'd the person next to me
think?" I don't know, all the kinds of things-- GLORIA: Yeah.
KELLIE: --that we think about when we're supposed to be
worshiping. But the problem was I had not become a worshiper. I
had not latched onto that as my role in this life. My role in my
"Kellie and Jesus and the Father" relationship is to be a
worshiper. GLORIA: Praise God. KELLIE: You know, worshipers are
followers. Worshipers are humble. Worshipers are lovers.
And somehow, when you really start loving Jesus to that
deeper degree in worship, you become more lovely to others.
You become more patient, more lovely, more loving. But I
remember my kids would say--especially one--Max would
always say, "Mom, there's more to worship." And I would be
like, "Max--" You know, we don't like to hear this stuff from our
kids, right? We don't like to hear what we're not doing right
from our kids. But I would say, "Max, I worship." I wanted to
go--just say, "Go away. Be quiet. Of course, I worship."
And it--and now, looking back on my verbiage, it just--I'm--it
makes me want to go, "Oh, Lord Jesus." I mean, I already have
asked Him to forgive me, so that's done in my life. But so
silly, so shallow; so shallow where that was concerned. And
it's like the way--when somebody hasn't received the infilling of
the Holy Spirit with speaking in tongues, and you say something
about being filled with the Spirit, and they look at you and
they go, "I am filled with the Holy Spirit. I have the Holy
Spirit." And you say, "There's more!" And--but until that
happens, they may not understand that there was more-- GLORIA:
Yeah. KELLIE: --even though they love the Lord and they're--they
do have the Holy Spirit in them. But when you ask Him to fill you
up, to overflow with a new language, man, that's a
different thing. Well, that's what happened to me with
worship. And, Mom, you and I were in Hawaii, which is a great
place to just get with Jesus. He loves Hawaii. I've decided that
He likes Hawaii. GLORIA: I think so. KELLIE: He always meets me
there. He always--I mean, I know He goes with me when I'm on my
way, but He always does something special for me there.
It just became like an appointment place for me and
Him. But that time--I didn't know something phenomenal was
going to happen. I was having a--I was in a really hard place
in my life and needing some answers from the Lord on some
stuff. And I'm standing in faith, but I--we go to this
women's conference at Word of Life Church in Honolulu, Hawaii,
and-- GLORIA: Great church. KELLIE: Oh, it's a wonderful
church. And you were speaking and I was speaking. And I don't
know. They did this one song. It was a planet-shaker song called,
"I was made to worship." And, you know, before that, prior to
going into the services, and worship would be going on, you
know, I like going in there sometimes, but I didn't mind
like being in the backroom, talking to people a little bit
or-- GLORIA: Yeah. KELLIE: --being quiet to pray or
whatever the case may be if I was going to go out and preach.
But something happened to me that week and I was like, "Okay,
fine, y'all. I've got to go. I've got to get out there. I
want to get out there." And something in that song and
something in my appointed time from the Lord Jesus Christ, I
just--I had this thing come on me and I had to worship. GLORIA:
Praise God. KELLIE: And it changed my whole life, Mom.
GLORIA: Yes. KELLIE: And I watched you, too. You did the
same thing. I was watching you just like we would stand there.
And I noticed you kind of hurrying on out, too. And I
wouldn't even have said, you know, that that was your style
of music, but God dumped something on you, and that song
was written with the truth, "I was--" GLORIA: That's a great
song. KELLIE: "--made to worship. I was made to bless
your holy name." GLORIA: It's an awesome song. KELLIE: It is.
And, boy, you and I--and it didn't hurt that it was being
done to the hula. I mean, let's just be real. These women--they
were-- GLORIA: We were a Hawaiian version. KELLIE:
--like, "I was made to worship. I was made to bless your name."
I mean, it just got all over me that it sparked something in me
that--that was over three years ago, and it has never gone
away-- GLORIA: Praise God. KELLIE: --never gone away. And
once or twice, like I'd get distracted with life, and busy
and work and school and all these things that you do as a
person, and I would feel that begin to wane, and I'm like,
"Oh, I can't do without worshiping God." And so I'd just
be more aggressive and assertive about my mornings, and
worshiping in the morning. I worship every-- GLORIA: Praise
God. KELLIE: --morning when I get ready. And, anyway--so--but
it changed my life. It began to open my whole heart up to hear
things from the Lord Jesus. It was like it opened up a cavity
in my heart that had been closed and I didn't even know, because
imagine trying to--one thing about your worship, it comes
from your soul. It doesn't come from your spirit. Our spirit's
renewed. But where we make our choices, where we make our
decisions about who--what we do and who we serve and who we
worship and who we put first place, that's in our soul. So
that's why I say, "Worship comes from your soul." GLORIA: That's
good, Kellie. KELLIE: But imagine, when it comes from your
soul, it touches your emotions. That's why it's so easy to just
be a bawling mess when you worship. But it's okay. You
know, if we can't--if we've got to hold all of our act together
in front of Jesus, we miss out on a lot of who He is to us.
Imagine this, Mom. Imagine you and Dad in your marriage, and
you constantly feel--there are marriages like this, and they
don't work--constantly feeling like you have to walk on
eggshells to be perfect. You can't say the wrong thing, you
can't say what you think, you can't say what you feel, you
can't talk to them about your problems. Dad said
something--these are my notes from last week when we were at a
meeting. I thought it was so good. He was talking about a
word from Brother Hagin, and Brother Hagin was talking to him
about being ready for the next step and being faithful, in
1988. And Dad said he was too analytical. And I don't remember
if Brother Hagin said this in the word or if the Lord said
this in the word to him, or if the Lord just said this to him,
but he said, "Your mind dominates you, not your spirit,"
like, "You think too much." And he said he was talking about
Jesus and he said, "You can just say to Jesus, 'Jesus, would you
talk to me about whatever?' whatever in your life, whatever
problem you're having." Whatever feeling you're feeling, we're
not led by your feelings. But when we have them, what do we do
with them? You need to talk to the Lord about them. And I
just--I thought that was so good what he said. He said, "Just ask
the Lord. Say, 'Jesus, would you talk to me about whatever?'" And
just being able to be real with the Lord like that--imagine a
relationship with Dad where you didn't let him in on your
innermost--you withheld a part of yourself how you really feel
about something, how you really think about something, or even
having to have a relationship with him and keep your emotions
out of it. GLORIA: Hmm. KELLIE: We've done Jesus that way to a
high degree. GLORIA: Wow. KELLIE: And then the things in
worship that touch our emotions, I remember--again with the
embarrassment, I remember telling my kids, years ago when
they were in high school and college, I'm like, "Now, listen,
you need to watch out for when you're in worship and don't be
singing like emotional songs." In my mind, it made sense
because we're not led by our emotions, but that doesn't mean
we're not supposed to have them when we worship and relate to
the Lord. GLORIA: That's right. KELLIE: It's silly. You cannot
have a marriage that way. You can't have a relationship with
your kids that way. People who do that with their kids and
they're like, "You need to do this, you need to do this, you
need to do that." GLORIA: Legality. KELLIE: Legality, no
heart. And, you know, people have accused us. I mean,
personally, yes, but I'm talking about, you know, our fold of the
Body of Christ people have accused of not being people of
love. And you know what? That's not true. We are love. We love,
we give, but maybe we've been less--as--maybe--well, I'll
speak for me. When I became a worshiper, I became more loving,
more able to show it, more--less judgmental about what anybody
else is doing. Why? Because I had opened up my own life for
the Lord to judge. When you position yourself in worship,
you're here and He's here. You're low, He's high. And it
really keeps you from being high-minded-- GLORIA: That's
good. KELLIE: --because you just start seeing yourself, not lowly
in the sense of, "I'm no good." I mean, just to be able to come
to Jesus and worship Him, you have to be able to come into His
presence. You have to be holy. Well, thank God it's not our own
lives that makes us holy. It's accepting Him. So when my whole
life took a turn--and He said this to me, Mom, and I took it
really personally at first. It took me a little bit to get over
it. And I've said it to you, so I know it--when I say this, hear
me. I'm not hurting my mother's feelings. I've said this to my
dad and my mom because, you know, they're like--you know, we
learn from each other. But the Lord said to me, "You were
raised in an atmosphere of faith, not worship." And I
didn't--and I started to take it in a critical way, but it wasn't
like that. He wasn't saying it like, "You're so bad." He was
just saying, "You grew up in a household of--in an atmosphere
of faith." That's good. It's just as important as worship, I
mean, having faith. But when you add to that the atmosphere of
worship, wow. Your faith takes on this new--like you have a new
foundation to even stand on faith. GLORIA: Mm-hmm. KELLIE:
You have a new entryway into the Father and a new trust in Him.
And you've positioned yourself where He's the dad and you're
the kid. Then you have faith in your dad. It sets you up so
differently than just having faith in His Word, which is
super important. But here's the funny thing: This is what He
began to show me later. He showed me, "There's a lot of
people that have been raised up in an atmosphere of worship but
not faith." So what are they hungry for right now? They're
hungry to know faith, so it really was just what God was
doing in us. He was developing truths. He was developing ways
that you know Him. But when you begin to combine these truths
that are coming right now, Mom, we're getting so strong in the
Lord-- GLORIA: Praise God. KELLIE: --and we're beginning to
see the whole picture of Jesus and the whole picture of knowing
Him. It's just exciting. So that was my story. I want to
read--you know, we're giving away, "Walk With God," your
book, which is a great book. And you talk a lot about--it's about
obedience and doing what's in front of you and walking with
God, not just talking the talk, not just being a phony. GLORIA:
Mm-hmm, doing what He says. KELLIE: Doing what He says. And
the funny thing is you can be a phony at walking with God, you
can be a phony at worship. Neither of them work. But when
you are just--are real before the Lord, your relationship with
Him gets so vital and so real that other stuff--you don't have
to stop doing other stuff. It just stops being interesting.
GLORIA: Mm-hmm, that's true. KELLIE: Like, I really hardly
ever watch TV. I have to find out what's going on, you know,
like even some of the hurricanes this last year and stuff and the
other parts. I used to always keep up with all of that. And I
have to make myself know what's going on. I'm just not
interested, and I just don't even think to turn it on. And so
that's changed my life. I didn't have to try to fast TV. GLORIA:
That's right. Yeah, I see that. KELLIE: And--but I found a story
about you in your book. So I want to read. This happened to
you. And I know you don't--we don't hear--when God says
something to us like that that's corrected, we don't hear it and
feel shame about--I don't have shame that I wasn't raised in an
atmosphere of faith. We were working--I mean-- GLORIA: Just
change. KELLIE: --worship. We were working on faith. But now
He's just--when I say, "He dumped it on me," I didn't know
to ask for it. I wasn't smart enough to know I needed to
worship. And I wouldn't even listen to my kids. So I pray you
will just take these things we talked about because if you do
what we talked about last week and begin to focus on Him,
worship will come out of that. If you begin to worship Him like
we're talking this week, your love for the Word and your love
for Him and trying to see Him in the Word, and not just read the
Bible, but seeing Jesus in the Word, that's a result. So these
things work together. But I wanted to read this story
because-- GLORIA: Okay. KELLIE: --this is my mama. So you
were--you had made this commitment to the Lord. I'm not
sure what year this was. Maybe you'll remember. But you said,
"I made this commitment, 'God, I will do anything you want me to
do. Teach me and lead me.'" That is an open door to the Lord to
bring change into your life. GLORIA: Praise God. KELLIE: And
He'll take it. Boy, you know, at--the woman at the well, He
kept poking at her and kept poking at her until she opened
the door. He needed to give her what He wanted to give her. She
thought she just needed to not have to come back to this
terrible well, where she was shamed every day, anymore. But
He kept poking at her to ask for the living water. And she's
like, "Well, what makes your water so much better than this
water?" And He--so He just keeps poking at her until she says--He
says, "You won't have to come back. You won't have to thirst
again." And she's like, "I want that water. I don't have to come
back to this well again." She's thinking naturally. GLORIA:
Yeah. KELLIE: But He took a natural need, and He met an
inside need. GLORIA: That's good. KELLIE: So all He needs is
that open door. He needed me to give Him an open door and
say--pray that Psalm 19:12. Mom said, "God, I will do anything
you want me to. Teach me and lead me." GLORIA: That's right.
KELLIE: What an open door. GLORIA: Yeah. KELLIE: Let's all
say that right now, "God, I will do anything you want me to do--"
(Gloria Repeats) "--teach me and lead me." Do you know that is
worship? GLORIA: Praise God. KELLIE: I mean, we--it--God made
us to sing. He made us to use our song. Maybe we'll get into
that this week. We are an instrument. Our body is
literally an instrument. He made us to worship Him in song, but
we worship Him also in our--the things we do. And we worship
Him--you--this was a worship of-- GLORIA: Praise God. KELLIE:
--that you gave Him. And you put yourself here, and you put Him
here. And you--this was love that drove you to do this. "At
this time, Ken did not--Ken did not have a daytime service. And
by direction of the Lord, I started teaching on Friday
mornings. I was already teaching healing on Saturday. I prayed,
'Father, we are just giving You this time. We are turning it
over to the Holy Spirit. Whatever you want us to do, tell
us.' I told the people to prepare themselves, to set aside
these days for the Holy Spirit to do whatever He wanted. Those
services lasted sometimes three or four hours. I just endeavored
to teach the Word and to follow the Holy Spirit and minister to
the people. I said, 'God, I will do anything you tell me to do. I
don't care what I look like to people.'" You've got to do this
to be a worshiper. I'm not going to be able to finish this story
today, but we'll keep going. "If there were anyone who had cared
what they looked like to people, it had been me. Sister Etter
calls this a man-fearing spirit." GLORIA: Hmm, I had
forgotten that. KELLIE: Isn't that something? "I wanted to be
dignified and nice. I never wanted to look foolish to
anyone. On top of that, I was timid. But I reached a place
where it was more important what God thought about me than what
people thought." We'll pick that story up tomorrow. But isn't
that beautiful? GLORIA: I like that. KELLIE: That was you. You
wrote that. GLORIA: I know. I like that. KELLIE: You said
that. That's been your life. GLORIA: That's good. KELLIE:
This is the woman that I've watched my whole life give her
life to Jesus. GLORIA: Praise God. Thank you, Kellie. That's
awesome. Oh, we're out of time. We'll be right back.
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