(Singing) I know my God  has made the way for me.
  I know my God has  made the way for me.
  ANNOUNCER: Today on the  Believer's Voice of Victory,
  Gloria and Kellie  Copeland remind you that your
  heavenly Father is all  knowing. Don't hide from
  God, but come to Him expecting  to be changed and made whole.
  GLORIA: Hello, everybody.  Welcome to the Believer's Voice
  of Victory broadcast.  Kellie's back with us
  today, and she's got  some more good stuff for us.
  You're going to like  it. Welcome, Kellie.
  KELLIE: Thank you, Mama.  I enjoyed yesterday.
  We got to hear a little inside  in your story, so I bet
  everybody loved that. And we  told my story. And so today,
  we're going to talk about Mary  and Martha's story-- GLORIA:
  Okay. KELLIE: --in the Bible.  But I have this psalm I wanted
  to read. We're talking about--if  you're just joining us, please
  catch up with us. Last week we  talked about knowing Jesus in
  His Word. He is the Word. The  Word is Jesus. Knowing Him like
  that. Not just reading the Bible  but reading the Bible to know
  Jesus opens the entire thing up.  It's like you see Him at a
  deeper degree when you have that  in your heart to just know Him.
  And this week, we're talking  about knowing Him in worship,
  going deeper into Jesus, letting  Him deeper into you. He said,
  "If you draw near to me, I'll  draw near to you." So when we go
  deeper, we let Him in deeper,  and He just will turn your life
  upside down, but you'll like it.  You know, we all need our lives
  turned upside down. If you  haven't been upside down by
  Jesus, it actually--it's not--  GLORIA: Maybe it's--maybe it's
  upside down, and we're getting  it turned-- KELLIE: That's what
  I was going to say. GLORIA:  --right side up. KELLIE: We just
  think we're okay. He turns us  right side up, but we really
  have been upside down. But it  feels that way a little bit when
  you're hearing things that are  corrective, and He's showing you
  things. You're like, "What are  You doing, Jesus? You're shaking
  me up." Well, it's in your  story. Yesterday, the Lord told
  you to worship in front of  everybody and to rejoice in
  front of everybody. GLORIA: Yes.  KELLIE: And you're like--
  GLORIA: "Who me? In front of  everybody? Oh, no." KELLIE: But
  it changed your whole life. It  changed your preaching. GLORIA:
  It did. KELLIE: You know,  the--if you compare when you
  started, and you would, like,  just stand right at the podium
  and read your notes and read the  Bible. And it was all good. It
  was like nugget after nugget  after nugget. It was strong. But
  that made a shift in you. Mom,  you are so funny now. GLORIA:
  Ha-ha-ha. KELLIE: You are. I  love it. You're just so free up
  there. You're free because  you've always been funny, but
  you would reserve that for, you  know, behind the scenes. But now
  you're just free-- GLORIA:  That's funny, Kellie. KELLIE:
  --and you share the Word with  people and you tell your
  stories-- GLORIA: Praise God.  KELLIE: --and you don't even
  mind telling people where you  missed it, or what's going on in
  your life, or--I just love to  hear you preach. And you just--
  GLORIA: Thank you, my dear.  KELLIE: You just-- GLORIA: That
  blesses a mother. KELLIE: All of  a sudden, you're sitting there
  enjoying hearing you preach, and  then you just say something
  that, you know, is a zinger. I  call them zingers. GLORIA:
  Ha-ha. KELLIE: I forget what  Pastor George calls them.
  Gloria-isms or something.  GLORIA: Yeah. KELLIE: Anyway,
  zinger--I call them zingers,  bullets--zingers, bullets,
  nuggets. GLORIA: That's funny.  KELLIE: You all know what I'm
  talking about if you've watched  her very long. But He just gets
  in your life, and He just fixes  what needs to be fixed. GLORIA:
  He does. KELLIE: You said in  your book you read yesterday
  that at the end--at the other  side of an act of
  obedience--something like this,  "The other side of an act of
  obedience is always a good  result. It's always abundance.
  It's always something you needed  you didn't know you need."
  GLORIA: Yeah. KELLIE: Well,  that's--you could say it's kind
  of a "chicken or the egg" thing.  Like, yes, that's what's at the
  act of obedience, but the reason  He told you to do the act that
  you obeyed is because that's  where He wanted you to be free--
  GLORIA: Yeah, that's right.  KELLIE: --is to be set free of
  stuff that you didn't even know  you needed to be set free of.
  GLORIA: You know how Swiss  cheese has holes in it? KELLIE:
  Yes, ma'am. GLORIA: I thank--  KELLIE: Where are you going with
  this? (Laughs) GLORIA: I thank  the Lord--ha-ha. I thank the
  Lord--we're like Swiss cheese.  We--in the natural realm, you
  know, before we get hold of the  Word, or the Word gets hold of
  us, we've got holes here.  KELLIE: Yeah. GLORIA: And He
  fills up those holes with truth  and the Word and straightens out
  our thinking and gets rid  of--we--if we'll listen to Him,
  He'll get rid of the quirks.  (Laughs) KELLIE: Well, let me
  tell you something else. This is  what I think about Swiss cheese.
  I think Swiss cheese stinks. I  do. I can't stand it. But--
  GLORIA: Well, it's got holes in  it. There's a question about it.
  KELLIE: But I think it's  appropriate to say that He can
  get rid of the stink, too. And  when all that stuff--we got all
  that stuff on the inside,  carrying stuff in those holes.
  GLORIA: Oh, yeah, since you were  a child, my goodness. KELLIE:
  Jesus washes that out and  replaces it with Himself, and
  then we don't stink anymore. Our  lives don't stink, to other
  people, even. The stuff that  Jesus gets rid of usually makes
  us better to live with for  everybody else. GLORIA: Oh,
  sure, yeah. KELLIE: Really, the  other day--last week, we talked
  about how--and we did a whole  series on this actually a few
  months ago, how when you come in  oneness with Jesus, the result
  is the fruit of the Spirit.  GLORIA: Yes, that's right.
  KELLIE: It just comes out when  you come into oneness with Him.
  So this is a huge part of it, is  worship, putting your life into
  His hands, correct, fill up the  holes, get rid of the junk.
  GLORIA: Which would be-- KELLIE:  We don't have holes, and we
  don't stink. GLORIA: You're just  a whole lot more lovely--
  KELLIE: Yes. GLORIA: --if--with  love, joy, peace, patience,
  goodness, kindness,  faithfulness, gentleness,
  self-control. Those are  filling--that's filling up the
  holes with the fruit of the  Spirit. KELLIE: That's right.
  Get rid of the fruit blockers  and-- GLORIA: Yeah, yeah.
  KELLIE: --and not make us  difficult. We can be difficult
  for people to relate to. GLORIA:  Not to mention we're off--we're
  better off when we're like that.  KELLIE: So much better. So
  the--but many times, our  lives--like we said yesterday,
  you don't know the stuff. Psalm  19:12 says, "How can I know all
  the sins lurking in my heart?"  Well, you can't, but He knows
  them. So He will cleanse you of  them, and then you get free. And
  your life changes. Well,  sometimes-- GLORIA: Amen.
  KELLIE: Many times, those things  drive us in a place that leads
  us into a hurting  place--situation either with
  relationships or inside  ourselves. People can have
  depression come up from the  stuff that's inside them, and
  they think it's just mental. But  it's in your soul. It's stuff
  that just needs to be removed--  GLORIA: Yeah. KELLIE: --you need
  to be cleaned from. GLORIA: You  don't need it. KELLIE: And when
  you become a worshiper, those  places get taken care of. But
  there's a scripture that I  found--I'm--we're reading out of
  The Passion Translation for this  because I thought this described
  all of that so perfect, so well.  This is Psalm 5. I like The
  Passion Translation. If you  don't--I think, I believe he
  just came out with--you can go  to "passiontranslation," I think
  it's ".com," but they just came  out with a whole Bible. Right
  now, they come in little books  like, you know, lots of little
  books. GLORIA: Yeah. KELLIE: And  I love reading them. But he's
  coming out with a whole--like in  one Bible. So I would suggest
  you get that. But song--this is  Psalm 5. It says, "Listen to my
  passionate prayer. Can't you  hear my groaning? Don't you hear
  how I'm crying out to you? My  King and my God, consider my
  every word, for I am calling out  to you." You know, the wonderful
  thing is to know Jesus always  hears us. GLORIA: Yes, it is.
  KELLIE: And He takes our  requests. The Father--so the
  Father always hears us. And  He's--Jesus is so faithful, the
  Word says. "At each and every  sunrise, you will hear my
  voice--" GLORIA: I like that.  KELLIE: Isn't that good? GLORIA:
  Mm-hmm. KELLIE: "--as I prepare  my sacrifice of prayer to you."
  Listen to this, Mom. "Every  morning, I lay out the pieces of
  my life on the altar." Isn't  that good? GLORIA: That is good.
  KELLIE: Sometimes that means  just everything I do. Like,
  okay, my job, my place as a  husband or a wife, my place as a
  mom, my place as an employee, my  place as a minister, my place as
  a daughter, all of the pieces of  our life, a friend, you lay
  those out on the altar. But  sometimes it just feels like
  your life is literally in  pieces. And I think there have
  been things--hard things that  happened to me over the years,
  but I never really stopped until  a few years ago. I was going
  through a hard place, and  instead of just--instead of just
  pressing through, which it's  awesome to be able to press
  through. Can I just say it's  amazing to be able to just say,
  "Lord, everybody else is  everybody else. I'm going to
  serve You." GLORIA: That's  right. KELLIE: And He took me at
  that place. That's where I was  prior times, you know, even in
  hard places where, you know, one  of your kids, something's going
  on in their life, or they're  sick, or maybe you have
  something in your body, or, you  know, somebody does something
  that hurts you. Just to be able  to be able to press on with God,
  that's a victory in itself. But  this last thing that just--I
  went through, I came to the  place where I said, you know,
  "Lord, just--" And again, Psalm  19:12. He cleansed me of some
  things that were hiding I didn't  know about. But I just said,
  "Lord, talk to me about me  because I can't change everybody
  else." There's a--that is the  most-- GLORIA: That's right, and
  that's the truth. KELLIE:  --free. GLORIA: If people spent
  as much time working on  themselves to change-- KELLIE:
  Yes. GLORIA: --as they do other  people to change, we'd get a
  whole lot more done, wouldn't  we? KELLIE: Yes. And we're going
  to talk about Mary and Martha  with that because Martha--you're
  going to see that that was  Martha's big prayer. Martha's
  big prayer was not, "Jesus help  me." Her big prayer was, "Jesus,
  make Mary help me." GLORIA:  Her-- "Make her do something."
  KELLIE: And I think, you know,  the Bible talks about asking
  amiss. All of the prayers that  we pray--I had a word from the
  Lord. It's a long one. And  actually, I'm going to read it
  on Friday. GLORIA: Okay. KELLIE:  So join me. It was a word. It
  wasn't just for me. It was for  everybody, and it was such an
  unusual circumstance in the  way--it's the first time I've
  ever had anything quite like  what happen. And I want to tell
  you about it on Friday. I'm  going to read it to you. But in
  that word, He talked about the  sin that's in you that drives
  you to ask amiss. Like sometimes  we don't receive a perceived
  answer to our prayer, we've  asked amiss. But that doesn't
  just mean asking for something  that's not of God. There is sin
  sometimes that drives us--like  the thing that Mary--I'm getting
  ahead of me. But the thing  Martha asked from Jesus was a
  whole missed prayer. Number one,  we're going to see today that it
  wasn't even what was really  wrong. Jesus told her what was
  wrong, and it wasn't that she  was trying to cook supper by
  herself. Now--so that's asking  amiss because she didn't--not
  even addressing the thing that's  really wrong. Number two, we are
  thinking that Jesus doing  something in somebody else is
  going to make our life okay. And  any time you can judge your
  prayers--right now, put them in  front of you, what you've been
  praying. You're not going to  get--you're not--I mean, God can
  change somebody else, but the  best place you have
  standing--you know, like legal  standing, you have to have legal
  standing to bring a suit against  somebody. So a legal standing of
  prayer, the best standing you  have for God to change somebody
  is if you ask Him to change you  because you're the one that
  really--God changes you,  everything else will change.
  GLORIA: Praise God. KELLIE: He  will deliver you if He can
  change you. So laying out the  hard places of your life,
  somewhere when your life falls  apart, laying that out before
  the Lord and just saying, "Okay,  Lord, this is what it looks
  like. I'm not hiding this from  you." Sometimes we like to hide
  from ourselves, and when we're  hiding from ourselves, we tend
  to hide from Jesus those things.  Like, you know, there's
  times--and you--if you've been  in church very long--or maybe it
  was just me, but I don't think  so. I'm not that unique. You'd
  be in church and an altar call  will come, and you think, "Oh, I
  can't go down there for that. I  need it, but you know, everybody
  will think" whatever. You talked  about being delivered from
  yourself and what people think  about you. I heard
  somebody--Todd White, I think,  said, "One of the biggest things
  Jesus came to deliver us from is  ourselves, you know, because you
  can be free of you." And so when  you have a hard place, just
  really being able to be honest  with Jesus, like Dad said, just
  say, "Jesus, would You please  talk to me about" whatever it
  is. So you can lay out the  pieces of your life and say,
  "This just seems like it's  falling all to pieces." So
  there's many ways, depending  where you're at in your life.
  But every morning, whatever your  pieces are, whatever they look
  like, good or bad, things are  going great, things aren't going
  great, become a worshiper.  "Every morning I lay out the
  pieces of my life on the altar  and wait for your fire to fall
  upon my heart." GLORIA: Praise  God. KELLIE: What does that
  mean? Hebrews 12 talks about  correction. He talks
  about--that's an interesting  chapter because when He
  talks--He begins talking about,  "Don't forget the encouraging
  word that I gave you." And  you're all ready for, "Hey, go,
  Kellie! Hey, you can do it!  You're awesome" from the Lord.
  But He says--the very next thing  He says is, "Don't forget my
  correction." That's the  encouraging word. And, you know,
  we all love the scripture that  says, "Strengthen your weak
  knees and lift--" you know, "get  ready to run." GLORIA: That's--
  KELLIE: But that scripture is  after correction. That's in
  Hebrews 12. GLORIA: That's an  awesome part of the Word.
  KELLIE: It is. Correction is  the most wonderful act of love.
  GLORIA: It puts you in a  position to receive your answer.
  KELLIE: Yes. GLORIA:  Your--you've been corrected.
  "I'm not doing that anymore. I'm  ready now." Ha-ha-ha. KELLIE:
  Ready now, ready to run, ready  to do what He's called you to
  do. It's just like the story you  told yesterday and read in your
  book. And so when that Hebrews  12 talks about the fire, God
  Himself is a fire. And He says  He's doing this shaking. GLORIA:
  Mm-hmm. KELLIE: It's like--I  said--we all said He wasn't
  turning us upside down. But  picture this, Mom, the cartoons
  where somebody gets turned  upside down and shaken, and all
  the pocket change and stuff  falls out of their pocket.
  That's what God's doing. He's  shaking us upside down-- GLORIA:
  A fire from the loins-- KELLIE:  --and get rid of the stuff.
  GLORIA: What does it say?  KELLIE: That doesn't-- GLORIA:
  "A fire from the loins up and a  fire from the loins down," or
  something. KELLIE: He's a fire.  He is a flaming fire. What's
  that fire for? Not to burn us  up. GLORIA: No. KELLIE: You
  know, people talk about beauty  from ashes? Those ashes are not
  the result of Satan's work.  God--you can think, "I've been
  in a hard time." But the beauty  comes when you let God in your
  life and in your hard time and  burn up stuff that needed to be
  burnt up. GLORIA: Praise God.  KELLIE: And He wants to shake us
  up to the point that all that's  left, Hebrews 12 says, is an
  "unshakeable kingdom." GLORIA:  Praise God. KELLIE: He is
  shaking us, getting rid of stuff  that doesn't belong. And it says
  He's a fire. What's He doing?  He's cleaning house. That's what
  Hebrews 12 is about. He's  cleaning our house, burning up
  the stuff that doesn't belong.  That's why there's beauty from
  ashes. He'll burn up the hurt.  He'll burn up the pain. He'll
  burn it all up and start you off  with only-- GLORIA: Praise God.
  KELLIE: --what remains of Him.  GLORIA: Tell me what book--
  KELLIE: So every morning--  GLORIA: --you're in and where I
  am and-- KELLIE: You--I am on  Psalm 5, Mom, right here.
  GLORIA: But it doesn't look the  same. KELLIE: Well, that's
  because mine has cartoons drawn  in it and yours--I didn't do
  that. He just has a version that  you can color. (Laughs) GLORIA:
  Oh. KELLIE: And you got the--you  got the serious version. GLORIA:
  Oh, okay. KELLIE: I'll trade you  if you want. But it says, "Every
  morning I lay out the pieces of  my life on the altar and wait
  for your fire to fall upon my  heart. I know that you, God, are
  never pleased with lawlessness,  and evil ones will never be
  invited as guests into your  house. Boasters collapse unable
  to survive your scrutiny." If we  have any of that stuff in our
  life, He will burn it up. But  also, He will push that stuff
  out of our lives when it's in  other people or other places,
  the unhealthy stuff. "You will  make an end of all those who
  lie. How you hate the hypocrisy  and despise all who love
  violence. But I know the way  back--" Can I just say,
  too--just the Lord told me to  say this so I'm going to say it.
  If you're being abused in your  life by anyone, the Lord will
  deliver you from that. In any  situation of any kind,
  emotional, physical, verbal,  spiritual abuse, all of it is
  not okay with God. God hates  hypocrisy and despises those
  that love violence. "--that I  know the way back home, and I
  know you will welcome me into  your house, for I am covered by
  your covenant of mercy and love.  So I come to your sanctuary with
  deepest awe, to bow and worship  and adore you. Lord, lead me in
  the pathways of your pleasure  just like you promised me you
  would, or else my enemies will  conquer me." Satan has a place
  to conquer you if you don't get  this stuff out of your life.
  "Smooth out your road in front  of me--" I don't want anybody
  else's road, just the road the  Lord has for me. "--straight and
  level so that I will know where  to walk." That's one thing about
  a straight and narrow path,  there's not a lot of options.
  GLORIA: No, there's not. KELLIE:  I love that about Him. We've got
  to start seeing these things as  good things for us, not
  restrictive-- GLORIA: Yeah.  KELLIE: --but a blessing that He
  would give you a path to be so  exact in your life that the
  blessing is always there. "For  you can't trust anything they
  say. Their hearts are nothing  but deep pits of destruction,
  drawing people into their  darkness with their speeches."
  You know that you could look at  this as Satan. Satan wants to
  draw people out of the light  with his speeches in your head.
  But stop listening to Him. Let  me see. Verse 11, "Let them all
  be glad, those who turn aside to  hide themselves in you. May they
  keep shouting for joy forever.  Overshadow them in your presence
  as they sing and rejoice."  That's what happens when you
  sing and rejoice. "Then every  lover of your name will burst
  forth with endless joy. Lord,  how wonderfully you bless the
  righteous. Your favor wraps  around each one and covers
  them--" GLORIA: Mm. KELLIE:  "--and under your canopy
  of--under your canopy of  kindness and joy." That is--that
  is what worship does. You know,  tomorrow, Mom, I want to get
  into--I'm going to have to speed  up. But I want to get into Mary
  and Martha. So--but I don't want  to start that today. So I want
  to just--we'll read Psalm 5.  GLORIA: Okay. KELLIE: Oh, that
  was Psalm 5. Psalm 89, I'm going  to read that in the New Living.
  Psalm 89, this is what we're  doing here this week. And then
  we'll pick up with sweet Mary  and Martha. I'm not even going
  to cap--recap or anything. We're  just going to pick it up right
  there tomorrow. But Psalm 89  says this, Verse 14,
  "Righteousness and judgment are  the foundation of your throne."
  GLORIA: Praise God. KELLIE:  Isn't that good? He's always
  right. And He  always--justice--righteousness
  and justice. He's always right,  He's always fair, and He always
  has love for us. "Unfailing love  and truth walk before you as
  attendants." Whoo. GLORIA:  "Unfailing love--" TOGETHER:
  "--and truth--" GLORIA: "--walk  before you." KELLIE: "Happy are
  those who hear the joyful call  to worship." I've been--God's
  calling you. God's calling you  through me. He's calling you in
  your own heart. Some of you turn  this on, and it started
  resonating in you right away  when we started talking about
  worship because God's already  been calling you, calling you to
  worship. "Happy are those who  hear the joyful call to worship:
  for they will walk in the light  of your presence." You know,
  we've walked in the light of the  Word, but when we begin to be
  worshipers, Mom, we begin to  walk in the light of His Word,
  but also in the light of His  presence because His presence in
  our life brings joy. His  presence in our life brings
  change, brings correction,  brings peace. "They rejoice all
  day long in your wonderful  reputation." I love that in your
  story yesterday. You had to  forget about your reputation and
  put yourself in His reputation.  I rejoice in His reputation--
  GLORIA: Yes, amen. KELLIE:  --because you start doing some
  different things, and people  look at you like, "What's wrong
  with you?" "They exalt in your  righteousness. You are their
  glorious strength." I love this.  "It pleases you to make us
  strong." GLORIA: Praise God.  Isn't that a-- KELLIE: Isn't
  that good? If you're sick today,  if you're weak and your life is
  weak in any way, become a  worshiper and answer that call
  to worship. It pleases Him to  make you strong. "Yes, our
  protection comes from the Lord,  and He, the Holy One of Israel,
  has given us our King." GLORIA:  Praise God. That's good, Kellie.
  KELLIE: Isn't that good to have  Jesus? GLORIA: Amen. KELLIE:
  He's our way to the Father.  Hallelujah. GLORIA: Good job.
  Good job. Kellie and  I'll be right back.
     
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