(Singing) I know my God has made the way for me.
I know my God has made the way for me.
ANNOUNCER: Today on the Believer's Voice of Victory,
Gloria and Kellie Copeland remind you that your
heavenly Father is all knowing. Don't hide from
God, but come to Him expecting to be changed and made whole.
GLORIA: Hello, everybody. Welcome to the Believer's Voice
of Victory broadcast. Kellie's back with us
today, and she's got some more good stuff for us.
You're going to like it. Welcome, Kellie.
KELLIE: Thank you, Mama. I enjoyed yesterday.
We got to hear a little inside in your story, so I bet
everybody loved that. And we told my story. And so today,
we're going to talk about Mary and Martha's story-- GLORIA:
Okay. KELLIE: --in the Bible. But I have this psalm I wanted
to read. We're talking about--if you're just joining us, please
catch up with us. Last week we talked about knowing Jesus in
His Word. He is the Word. The Word is Jesus. Knowing Him like
that. Not just reading the Bible but reading the Bible to know
Jesus opens the entire thing up. It's like you see Him at a
deeper degree when you have that in your heart to just know Him.
And this week, we're talking about knowing Him in worship,
going deeper into Jesus, letting Him deeper into you. He said,
"If you draw near to me, I'll draw near to you." So when we go
deeper, we let Him in deeper, and He just will turn your life
upside down, but you'll like it. You know, we all need our lives
turned upside down. If you haven't been upside down by
Jesus, it actually--it's not-- GLORIA: Maybe it's--maybe it's
upside down, and we're getting it turned-- KELLIE: That's what
I was going to say. GLORIA: --right side up. KELLIE: We just
think we're okay. He turns us right side up, but we really
have been upside down. But it feels that way a little bit when
you're hearing things that are corrective, and He's showing you
things. You're like, "What are You doing, Jesus? You're shaking
me up." Well, it's in your story. Yesterday, the Lord told
you to worship in front of everybody and to rejoice in
front of everybody. GLORIA: Yes. KELLIE: And you're like--
GLORIA: "Who me? In front of everybody? Oh, no." KELLIE: But
it changed your whole life. It changed your preaching. GLORIA:
It did. KELLIE: You know, the--if you compare when you
started, and you would, like, just stand right at the podium
and read your notes and read the Bible. And it was all good. It
was like nugget after nugget after nugget. It was strong. But
that made a shift in you. Mom, you are so funny now. GLORIA:
Ha-ha-ha. KELLIE: You are. I love it. You're just so free up
there. You're free because you've always been funny, but
you would reserve that for, you know, behind the scenes. But now
you're just free-- GLORIA: That's funny, Kellie. KELLIE:
--and you share the Word with people and you tell your
stories-- GLORIA: Praise God. KELLIE: --and you don't even
mind telling people where you missed it, or what's going on in
your life, or--I just love to hear you preach. And you just--
GLORIA: Thank you, my dear. KELLIE: You just-- GLORIA: That
blesses a mother. KELLIE: All of a sudden, you're sitting there
enjoying hearing you preach, and then you just say something
that, you know, is a zinger. I call them zingers. GLORIA:
Ha-ha. KELLIE: I forget what Pastor George calls them.
Gloria-isms or something. GLORIA: Yeah. KELLIE: Anyway,
zinger--I call them zingers, bullets--zingers, bullets,
nuggets. GLORIA: That's funny. KELLIE: You all know what I'm
talking about if you've watched her very long. But He just gets
in your life, and He just fixes what needs to be fixed. GLORIA:
He does. KELLIE: You said in your book you read yesterday
that at the end--at the other side of an act of
obedience--something like this, "The other side of an act of
obedience is always a good result. It's always abundance.
It's always something you needed you didn't know you need."
GLORIA: Yeah. KELLIE: Well, that's--you could say it's kind
of a "chicken or the egg" thing. Like, yes, that's what's at the
act of obedience, but the reason He told you to do the act that
you obeyed is because that's where He wanted you to be free--
GLORIA: Yeah, that's right. KELLIE: --is to be set free of
stuff that you didn't even know you needed to be set free of.
GLORIA: You know how Swiss cheese has holes in it? KELLIE:
Yes, ma'am. GLORIA: I thank-- KELLIE: Where are you going with
this? (Laughs) GLORIA: I thank the Lord--ha-ha. I thank the
Lord--we're like Swiss cheese. We--in the natural realm, you
know, before we get hold of the Word, or the Word gets hold of
us, we've got holes here. KELLIE: Yeah. GLORIA: And He
fills up those holes with truth and the Word and straightens out
our thinking and gets rid of--we--if we'll listen to Him,
He'll get rid of the quirks. (Laughs) KELLIE: Well, let me
tell you something else. This is what I think about Swiss cheese.
I think Swiss cheese stinks. I do. I can't stand it. But--
GLORIA: Well, it's got holes in it. There's a question about it.
KELLIE: But I think it's appropriate to say that He can
get rid of the stink, too. And when all that stuff--we got all
that stuff on the inside, carrying stuff in those holes.
GLORIA: Oh, yeah, since you were a child, my goodness. KELLIE:
Jesus washes that out and replaces it with Himself, and
then we don't stink anymore. Our lives don't stink, to other
people, even. The stuff that Jesus gets rid of usually makes
us better to live with for everybody else. GLORIA: Oh,
sure, yeah. KELLIE: Really, the other day--last week, we talked
about how--and we did a whole series on this actually a few
months ago, how when you come in oneness with Jesus, the result
is the fruit of the Spirit. GLORIA: Yes, that's right.
KELLIE: It just comes out when you come into oneness with Him.
So this is a huge part of it, is worship, putting your life into
His hands, correct, fill up the holes, get rid of the junk.
GLORIA: Which would be-- KELLIE: We don't have holes, and we
don't stink. GLORIA: You're just a whole lot more lovely--
KELLIE: Yes. GLORIA: --if--with love, joy, peace, patience,
goodness, kindness, faithfulness, gentleness,
self-control. Those are filling--that's filling up the
holes with the fruit of the Spirit. KELLIE: That's right.
Get rid of the fruit blockers and-- GLORIA: Yeah, yeah.
KELLIE: --and not make us difficult. We can be difficult
for people to relate to. GLORIA: Not to mention we're off--we're
better off when we're like that. KELLIE: So much better. So
the--but many times, our lives--like we said yesterday,
you don't know the stuff. Psalm 19:12 says, "How can I know all
the sins lurking in my heart?" Well, you can't, but He knows
them. So He will cleanse you of them, and then you get free. And
your life changes. Well, sometimes-- GLORIA: Amen.
KELLIE: Many times, those things drive us in a place that leads
us into a hurting place--situation either with
relationships or inside ourselves. People can have
depression come up from the stuff that's inside them, and
they think it's just mental. But it's in your soul. It's stuff
that just needs to be removed-- GLORIA: Yeah. KELLIE: --you need
to be cleaned from. GLORIA: You don't need it. KELLIE: And when
you become a worshiper, those places get taken care of. But
there's a scripture that I found--I'm--we're reading out of
The Passion Translation for this because I thought this described
all of that so perfect, so well. This is Psalm 5. I like The
Passion Translation. If you don't--I think, I believe he
just came out with--you can go to "passiontranslation," I think
it's ".com," but they just came out with a whole Bible. Right
now, they come in little books like, you know, lots of little
books. GLORIA: Yeah. KELLIE: And I love reading them. But he's
coming out with a whole--like in one Bible. So I would suggest
you get that. But song--this is Psalm 5. It says, "Listen to my
passionate prayer. Can't you hear my groaning? Don't you hear
how I'm crying out to you? My King and my God, consider my
every word, for I am calling out to you." You know, the wonderful
thing is to know Jesus always hears us. GLORIA: Yes, it is.
KELLIE: And He takes our requests. The Father--so the
Father always hears us. And He's--Jesus is so faithful, the
Word says. "At each and every sunrise, you will hear my
voice--" GLORIA: I like that. KELLIE: Isn't that good? GLORIA:
Mm-hmm. KELLIE: "--as I prepare my sacrifice of prayer to you."
Listen to this, Mom. "Every morning, I lay out the pieces of
my life on the altar." Isn't that good? GLORIA: That is good.
KELLIE: Sometimes that means just everything I do. Like,
okay, my job, my place as a husband or a wife, my place as a
mom, my place as an employee, my place as a minister, my place as
a daughter, all of the pieces of our life, a friend, you lay
those out on the altar. But sometimes it just feels like
your life is literally in pieces. And I think there have
been things--hard things that happened to me over the years,
but I never really stopped until a few years ago. I was going
through a hard place, and instead of just--instead of just
pressing through, which it's awesome to be able to press
through. Can I just say it's amazing to be able to just say,
"Lord, everybody else is everybody else. I'm going to
serve You." GLORIA: That's right. KELLIE: And He took me at
that place. That's where I was prior times, you know, even in
hard places where, you know, one of your kids, something's going
on in their life, or they're sick, or maybe you have
something in your body, or, you know, somebody does something
that hurts you. Just to be able to be able to press on with God,
that's a victory in itself. But this last thing that just--I
went through, I came to the place where I said, you know,
"Lord, just--" And again, Psalm 19:12. He cleansed me of some
things that were hiding I didn't know about. But I just said,
"Lord, talk to me about me because I can't change everybody
else." There's a--that is the most-- GLORIA: That's right, and
that's the truth. KELLIE: --free. GLORIA: If people spent
as much time working on themselves to change-- KELLIE:
Yes. GLORIA: --as they do other people to change, we'd get a
whole lot more done, wouldn't we? KELLIE: Yes. And we're going
to talk about Mary and Martha with that because Martha--you're
going to see that that was Martha's big prayer. Martha's
big prayer was not, "Jesus help me." Her big prayer was, "Jesus,
make Mary help me." GLORIA: Her-- "Make her do something."
KELLIE: And I think, you know, the Bible talks about asking
amiss. All of the prayers that we pray--I had a word from the
Lord. It's a long one. And actually, I'm going to read it
on Friday. GLORIA: Okay. KELLIE: So join me. It was a word. It
wasn't just for me. It was for everybody, and it was such an
unusual circumstance in the way--it's the first time I've
ever had anything quite like what happen. And I want to tell
you about it on Friday. I'm going to read it to you. But in
that word, He talked about the sin that's in you that drives
you to ask amiss. Like sometimes we don't receive a perceived
answer to our prayer, we've asked amiss. But that doesn't
just mean asking for something that's not of God. There is sin
sometimes that drives us--like the thing that Mary--I'm getting
ahead of me. But the thing Martha asked from Jesus was a
whole missed prayer. Number one, we're going to see today that it
wasn't even what was really wrong. Jesus told her what was
wrong, and it wasn't that she was trying to cook supper by
herself. Now--so that's asking amiss because she didn't--not
even addressing the thing that's really wrong. Number two, we are
thinking that Jesus doing something in somebody else is
going to make our life okay. And any time you can judge your
prayers--right now, put them in front of you, what you've been
praying. You're not going to get--you're not--I mean, God can
change somebody else, but the best place you have
standing--you know, like legal standing, you have to have legal
standing to bring a suit against somebody. So a legal standing of
prayer, the best standing you have for God to change somebody
is if you ask Him to change you because you're the one that
really--God changes you, everything else will change.
GLORIA: Praise God. KELLIE: He will deliver you if He can
change you. So laying out the hard places of your life,
somewhere when your life falls apart, laying that out before
the Lord and just saying, "Okay, Lord, this is what it looks
like. I'm not hiding this from you." Sometimes we like to hide
from ourselves, and when we're hiding from ourselves, we tend
to hide from Jesus those things. Like, you know, there's
times--and you--if you've been in church very long--or maybe it
was just me, but I don't think so. I'm not that unique. You'd
be in church and an altar call will come, and you think, "Oh, I
can't go down there for that. I need it, but you know, everybody
will think" whatever. You talked about being delivered from
yourself and what people think about you. I heard
somebody--Todd White, I think, said, "One of the biggest things
Jesus came to deliver us from is ourselves, you know, because you
can be free of you." And so when you have a hard place, just
really being able to be honest with Jesus, like Dad said, just
say, "Jesus, would You please talk to me about" whatever it
is. So you can lay out the pieces of your life and say,
"This just seems like it's falling all to pieces." So
there's many ways, depending where you're at in your life.
But every morning, whatever your pieces are, whatever they look
like, good or bad, things are going great, things aren't going
great, become a worshiper. "Every morning I lay out the
pieces of my life on the altar and wait for your fire to fall
upon my heart." GLORIA: Praise God. KELLIE: What does that
mean? Hebrews 12 talks about correction. He talks
about--that's an interesting chapter because when He
talks--He begins talking about, "Don't forget the encouraging
word that I gave you." And you're all ready for, "Hey, go,
Kellie! Hey, you can do it! You're awesome" from the Lord.
But He says--the very next thing He says is, "Don't forget my
correction." That's the encouraging word. And, you know,
we all love the scripture that says, "Strengthen your weak
knees and lift--" you know, "get ready to run." GLORIA: That's--
KELLIE: But that scripture is after correction. That's in
Hebrews 12. GLORIA: That's an awesome part of the Word.
KELLIE: It is. Correction is the most wonderful act of love.
GLORIA: It puts you in a position to receive your answer.
KELLIE: Yes. GLORIA: Your--you've been corrected.
"I'm not doing that anymore. I'm ready now." Ha-ha-ha. KELLIE:
Ready now, ready to run, ready to do what He's called you to
do. It's just like the story you told yesterday and read in your
book. And so when that Hebrews 12 talks about the fire, God
Himself is a fire. And He says He's doing this shaking. GLORIA:
Mm-hmm. KELLIE: It's like--I said--we all said He wasn't
turning us upside down. But picture this, Mom, the cartoons
where somebody gets turned upside down and shaken, and all
the pocket change and stuff falls out of their pocket.
That's what God's doing. He's shaking us upside down-- GLORIA:
A fire from the loins-- KELLIE: --and get rid of the stuff.
GLORIA: What does it say? KELLIE: That doesn't-- GLORIA:
"A fire from the loins up and a fire from the loins down," or
something. KELLIE: He's a fire. He is a flaming fire. What's
that fire for? Not to burn us up. GLORIA: No. KELLIE: You
know, people talk about beauty from ashes? Those ashes are not
the result of Satan's work. God--you can think, "I've been
in a hard time." But the beauty comes when you let God in your
life and in your hard time and burn up stuff that needed to be
burnt up. GLORIA: Praise God. KELLIE: And He wants to shake us
up to the point that all that's left, Hebrews 12 says, is an
"unshakeable kingdom." GLORIA: Praise God. KELLIE: He is
shaking us, getting rid of stuff that doesn't belong. And it says
He's a fire. What's He doing? He's cleaning house. That's what
Hebrews 12 is about. He's cleaning our house, burning up
the stuff that doesn't belong. That's why there's beauty from
ashes. He'll burn up the hurt. He'll burn up the pain. He'll
burn it all up and start you off with only-- GLORIA: Praise God.
KELLIE: --what remains of Him. GLORIA: Tell me what book--
KELLIE: So every morning-- GLORIA: --you're in and where I
am and-- KELLIE: You--I am on Psalm 5, Mom, right here.
GLORIA: But it doesn't look the same. KELLIE: Well, that's
because mine has cartoons drawn in it and yours--I didn't do
that. He just has a version that you can color. (Laughs) GLORIA:
Oh. KELLIE: And you got the--you got the serious version. GLORIA:
Oh, okay. KELLIE: I'll trade you if you want. But it says, "Every
morning I lay out the pieces of my life on the altar and wait
for your fire to fall upon my heart. I know that you, God, are
never pleased with lawlessness, and evil ones will never be
invited as guests into your house. Boasters collapse unable
to survive your scrutiny." If we have any of that stuff in our
life, He will burn it up. But also, He will push that stuff
out of our lives when it's in other people or other places,
the unhealthy stuff. "You will make an end of all those who
lie. How you hate the hypocrisy and despise all who love
violence. But I know the way back--" Can I just say,
too--just the Lord told me to say this so I'm going to say it.
If you're being abused in your life by anyone, the Lord will
deliver you from that. In any situation of any kind,
emotional, physical, verbal, spiritual abuse, all of it is
not okay with God. God hates hypocrisy and despises those
that love violence. "--that I know the way back home, and I
know you will welcome me into your house, for I am covered by
your covenant of mercy and love. So I come to your sanctuary with
deepest awe, to bow and worship and adore you. Lord, lead me in
the pathways of your pleasure just like you promised me you
would, or else my enemies will conquer me." Satan has a place
to conquer you if you don't get this stuff out of your life.
"Smooth out your road in front of me--" I don't want anybody
else's road, just the road the Lord has for me. "--straight and
level so that I will know where to walk." That's one thing about
a straight and narrow path, there's not a lot of options.
GLORIA: No, there's not. KELLIE: I love that about Him. We've got
to start seeing these things as good things for us, not
restrictive-- GLORIA: Yeah. KELLIE: --but a blessing that He
would give you a path to be so exact in your life that the
blessing is always there. "For you can't trust anything they
say. Their hearts are nothing but deep pits of destruction,
drawing people into their darkness with their speeches."
You know that you could look at this as Satan. Satan wants to
draw people out of the light with his speeches in your head.
But stop listening to Him. Let me see. Verse 11, "Let them all
be glad, those who turn aside to hide themselves in you. May they
keep shouting for joy forever. Overshadow them in your presence
as they sing and rejoice." That's what happens when you
sing and rejoice. "Then every lover of your name will burst
forth with endless joy. Lord, how wonderfully you bless the
righteous. Your favor wraps around each one and covers
them--" GLORIA: Mm. KELLIE: "--and under your canopy
of--under your canopy of kindness and joy." That is--that
is what worship does. You know, tomorrow, Mom, I want to get
into--I'm going to have to speed up. But I want to get into Mary
and Martha. So--but I don't want to start that today. So I want
to just--we'll read Psalm 5. GLORIA: Okay. KELLIE: Oh, that
was Psalm 5. Psalm 89, I'm going to read that in the New Living.
Psalm 89, this is what we're doing here this week. And then
we'll pick up with sweet Mary and Martha. I'm not even going
to cap--recap or anything. We're just going to pick it up right
there tomorrow. But Psalm 89 says this, Verse 14,
"Righteousness and judgment are the foundation of your throne."
GLORIA: Praise God. KELLIE: Isn't that good? He's always
right. And He always--justice--righteousness
and justice. He's always right, He's always fair, and He always
has love for us. "Unfailing love and truth walk before you as
attendants." Whoo. GLORIA: "Unfailing love--" TOGETHER:
"--and truth--" GLORIA: "--walk before you." KELLIE: "Happy are
those who hear the joyful call to worship." I've been--God's
calling you. God's calling you through me. He's calling you in
your own heart. Some of you turn this on, and it started
resonating in you right away when we started talking about
worship because God's already been calling you, calling you to
worship. "Happy are those who hear the joyful call to worship:
for they will walk in the light of your presence." You know,
we've walked in the light of the Word, but when we begin to be
worshipers, Mom, we begin to walk in the light of His Word,
but also in the light of His presence because His presence in
our life brings joy. His presence in our life brings
change, brings correction, brings peace. "They rejoice all
day long in your wonderful reputation." I love that in your
story yesterday. You had to forget about your reputation and
put yourself in His reputation. I rejoice in His reputation--
GLORIA: Yes, amen. KELLIE: --because you start doing some
different things, and people look at you like, "What's wrong
with you?" "They exalt in your righteousness. You are their
glorious strength." I love this. "It pleases you to make us
strong." GLORIA: Praise God. Isn't that a-- KELLIE: Isn't
that good? If you're sick today, if you're weak and your life is
weak in any way, become a worshiper and answer that call
to worship. It pleases Him to make you strong. "Yes, our
protection comes from the Lord, and He, the Holy One of Israel,
has given us our King." GLORIA: Praise God. That's good, Kellie.
KELLIE: Isn't that good to have Jesus? GLORIA: Amen. KELLIE:
He's our way to the Father. Hallelujah. GLORIA: Good job.
Good job. Kellie and I'll be right back.
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