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>> Adrienne: ON THIS TUESDAY
NIGHT... DID OTTAWA SCREW UP?
>> I THINK WE TOOK IT A STEP TOO
FAR.
>> Adrienne: EXPELLED FROM
SAUDI ARABIA, THIS FORMER
CANADIAN AMBASSADOR IS SPEAKING
OUT FOR THE FIRST TIME ABOUT THE
DIPLOMATIC DISPUTE AND THE
MISTAKES THAT HE THINKS THAT
CANADA MADE.
A CBC NEWS EXCLUSIVE.
>> Rosemary: ONE WEEK TO
LEGALIZATION POLICE FORCES
GRAPPLE WITH THE KEY QUESTION --
WHEN CAN OFF-DUTY OFFICERS USE
CANNABIS?
DO SOME RULES GO TOO FAR?
>> Ian: AND "IN DEPTH."
>> Reporter: THERE ARE
REMNANTS OF VILLAGES THAT HAVE
BEEN BURNED.
>> Ian: AND THE ROHINGYA MUSLIMS
FLED MYANMAR IN SIGNS OF
ATROCITIES THAT CANADA CALLS A
GENOCIDE.
WE'RE THE ONLY CANADIAN
JOURNALISTS INSIDE OF MYANMAR.
THIS IS "THE NATIONAL."
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>> Adrienne: FOR MONTHS A
DIPLOMATIC RIFT HAS BEEN
FESTERING BETWEEN CANADA AND
SAUDI ARABIA AND IT ALL STARTED
WITH A TWEET.
CONSIDER THE FALLOUT... SAUDI
ARABIA SUSPENDED NEW TRADE WITH
CANADA, IT RECALLED THOUSANDS OF
SAUDI STUDENTS STUDYING HERE AND
IT KICKED OUT CANADA'S
AMBASSADOR.
THAT MAN IS DENNIS HORAK.
HE IS NOW RETIRED AND HE'S
TALKING EXCLUSIVELY TO "THE
NATIONAL."
HE'S GOT A LOT TO SAY, STARTING
WITH THE STORY OF THAT TWEET.
>> WE WERE STANDING AROUND.
THERE WAS ABOUT 20, 25 PEOPLE
HERE.
>> Adrienne: RETURNING TO THE
SCENE OF THE CRIME, DENNIS HORAK
WAS HERE IN HIS BROTHER'S
TORONTO BACKYARD ON VACATION
WHEN HE LEARNED THIS SUMMER THE
SAUDIS HAD EXPELLED HIM AS
AMBASSADOR.
DID YOU THINK THAT WAS A JOKE?
>> AT FIRST WE THOUGHT BECAUSE
IT WAS ON TWITTER, THIS IS NOT
THE WAY THAT THESE
THINGS ARE DONE.
>> Adrienne: TWITTER, THIS IS
WHERE THE PROBLEMS BEGAN.
IN AUGUST CANADA URGED THE
IMMEDIATE RELEASE OF WOMEN'S
RIGHTS ACTIVISTS.
AS WAS ROUTINE
IT WAS TRANSLATED INTO ARABIC
AND SENT OUT FROM THE CANADIAN
EMBASSY IN RIYADH, THE SAUDIS
WERE FUROUS.
NO ONE ASKED HIS OPINION AND HE
SAID HE WOULDN'T HAVE ADVISED
IT.
>> TO SORT OF DROP A TWEET AS WE
DID IN A VACUUM WITH NO
BILATERAL RELATIONSHIP REALLY TO
SPEAK OF, IT'S NOT EFFECTIVE AND
IT HAS REPERCUSSIONS.
>> Adrienne: SAUDI ARABIA
CANCELLED FLIGHTS TO CANADA, AND
ORDERED SAUDI INVESTMENT PULLED
AND DECLARED THAT SAUDI STUDENTS
WOULD HAVE TO LEAVE AND RECALLED
ITS OWN AMBASSADOR.
DID OTTAWA SCREW UP?
>> WE TOOK IT A STEP TOO FAR, I
THINK.
THAT THE IMMEDIATE RELEASE LINE
SEEMS TO BE WHAT HAS REALLY
AGITATED THEM.
WHETHER WE CAN COME BACK FROM
THAT OR NOT, I DON'T KNOW.
>> Adrienne: WHY WOULD THIS
OFFEND THE SAUDIS SO MUCH?
>> THEY WERE UPSET THAT IT WAS
IN ARABIC.
THEY FELT THAT WE WERE TARGETING
THEIR AUDIENCE, THEIR PUBLIC.
AND THIS WOULD GIVE THEM
AMMUNITION TO SAY, SEE, LOOK,
WE'RE BEING PUSHED AROUND BY THE
WEST.
>> Adrienne: A FEW MONTHS ON
THEY TALK INDIGNANTLY ABOUT
CANADA.
LISTEN TO THE FOREIGN MINISTER
LAST WEEK IN NEW YORK...
>> YOU CAN TALK TO US ABOUT
HUMAN RIGHTS ANYTIME THAT YOU
WANT, WE'D BE HAPPY TO HAVE THAT
CONVERSATION LIKE WE DO WITH ALL
OF OUR ALLIES.
BUT LECTURING US?
NO WAY.
NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.
>> HE'S RIGHT.
THE AMERICAN AND THE STATE
DEPARTMENT ISSUES A HUMAN RIGHTS
REPORT EVERY YEAR, BUT THEY BOTH
HAVE STRONG RELATIONSHIPS WITH
SAUDI ARABIA SO IT CAN SURVIVE
SOME OF THOSE PUBLIC DRESSING
DOWNS.
IN WAYS THAT WE WERE VULNERABLE
TO.
>> Adrienne: RATHER THAN BACK
DOWN CANADA HAS OWNED ITS TWEET,
ITS FROST WITH SAUDI ARABIA.
WHILE NO OTHER NATIONS HAVE
COME TO THIS COUNTRY'S DEFENCE,
HUMAN RIGHTS GROUPS HAVE AND
HORAK FINDS THAT TELLING.
>> IT SEEMS TO ME THAT THE
APPLAUSE THAT THE GOVERNMENT HAS
GOTTEN FROM
AMNESTY ORGINISATION AND OTHER
ORGINISATIONS IS SOMETHING
THAT'S WELCOMED BY THE
GOVERNMENT.
AND PERHAPS RIGHTLY SO.
AND PERHAPS THAT'S WHAT IS
DRIVING IT.
>> Adrienne: IS THAT WORTH AS
MUCH AS A RELATIONSHIP WITH
SAUDI ARABIA?
IS THAT A GOOD TRADEOFF?
>> IN MY VIEW, NO.
>> Adrienne: WHAT WAS YOUR
CONVERSATION LIKE WITH THE
MINISTER AFTER THIS HAPPENED?
>> I HAVEN'T SPOKEN TO HER.
>> Adrienne: DID SHE NOT TAKE
THE CALL OR DID YOU NOT MAKE THE
CALL?
>> I DIDN'T SPEAK TO HER.
I SPOKE WITH HER STAFF AND I WAS
THERE A COUPLE DAYS AFTER TRYING
TO ASSESS THE IMPACT.
BUT, NO, I DIDN'T SPEAK
PERSONALLY TO THE MINISTER OR
THE PRIME MINISTER.
>> Adrienne: IF HE DID HAVE
THAT CONVERSATION HE MIGHT SAY
THAT HIS CRITICISM ISN'T
POLITICAL BECAUSE HE WAS ALSO
THROWN OUT IN HIS POST AS
CANADA'S
AMBASSADOR TO IRAN AFTER STEPHEN
HARPER'S GOVERNMENT CUT TIES
WITH THE NATION.
>> WHEN I WAS IN IRAN AND
WHETHER WE LIKE WHAT THEY'RE
DOING OR NOT IS REALLY NOT THE
ISSUE.
IF YOU WANT THESE CHANGES TO
HAPPEN, IF YOU WANT TO HAVE YOUR
VOICE HEARD YOU HAVE TO ENGAGE
THEM.
>> Adrienne: TORONTO IS HOME
NOW FOR HORAK AND HIS WIFE,
WRITING ANALYSIS, IT MAY BE HIS
DESTINY.
HE DOESN'T EXPECT TO BE ADVISING
ANYONE ABOUT SAUDI ARABIA.
>> ANYBODY WILL WANT TO DO
BUSINESS WITH SAUDI ARABIA WON'T
PUT ME ON A BOARD OR PUTTING ME
AS AN ADVISOR.
THE BUSINESS SIDE WOULD HAVE
BEEN NICE.
>> Adrienne: PERSONA NON GRATA
IS THE PERSONAL TERM, SKUNK AT
THE PARTY?
THAT WILL DO THOUGH.
>> Ian: SO, ADRIENNE LET'S LOOK
AT A COUPLE ISSUES BROUGHT UP BY
THIS WHOLE STORY.
FIRST OF ALL, WHAT ABOUT THE
WOMEN'S RIGHTS ACTIVISTS IN THAT
TWEET?
>> Adrienne: HE KNOWS THEM
WELL.
DENNIS HORAK SAYS HE DOESN'T
THINK THAT THE TWEET HURT THEM.
THEY'RE STILL IN JAIL THOUGH.
IT'S HARD TO SAY WHAT'S
HAPPENING THOUGH AND THAT'S SORT
OF HIS POINT BECAUSE CANADA
REALLY DOESN'T HAVE EYES ON THE
SITUATION RIGHT NOW.
IT'S REALLY DIFFICULT TO ASSESS
WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THEM.
AND THAT'S WHAT YOU LOSE WHEN
YOU DO THIS.
>> Ian: OF COURSE, A BIG STORY
LOOMING OVER THIS, IS THE SAUDI
JOURNALIST JAMAL KHASHOGGI.
AND WHEN YOU DID THIS INTERVIEW
THE NEWS HADN'T YET KIND OF
BROKEN THAT SOME PEOPLE BELIEVE
THAT HE MAY BE DEAD?
>> Adrienne: THAT'S RIGHT.
THERE'S A BIT OF AN UPDATE ABOUT
HIM RIGHT NOW.
THE U.N. HIGH COMMISSION FOR
HUMAN RIGHTS HAS WEIGHED IN ON
THE MYSTERY OF KHASHOGGI.
>> WE CALL FOR COOPERATION
BETWEEN TURKEY AND SAUDI ARABIA
TO CONDUCT A PROMPT, IMPARTIAL,
AND INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATION
INTO THE CIRCUMSTANCES OF
MR. KHASHOGGI'S DISAPPEARANCE.
AND TO MAKE THE FINDINGS PUBLIC.
>> Adrienne: SO JAMAL
KHASHOGGI ENTERED THE SAUDI
CONSULATE IN ISTANBUL LAST
TUESDAY AND HAS NOT BEEN SEEN
SINCE.
TODAY TURKEY'S STATE-RUN
TELEVISION RELEASED AN IMAGE
THAT APPARENTLY SHOWS KHASHOGGI
GOING INTO THE CONSULATE.
AND THERE ARE REPORTS THAT
TURKISH STAFF AT THE CONSULATE
WERE SUDDENLY GIVEN THE DAY OFF.
THE SAUDIS MAINTAIN THAT
KHASHOGGI LEFT THE BUILDING
SHORTLY AFTER.
TURKEY'S FOREIGN MINISTRY SAID
THAT A SEARCH WILL BE CONDUCTED
THERE.
>> Rosemary: HERE'S A LOOK AT
WHAT ELSE WE'RE WORKING ON
TONIGHT AT "THE NATIONAL"...
>>> TAYLOR SWIFT ASKS PEOPLE TO
SIGN UP AS VOTER REGISTRATION
SPIKES
AHEAD OF THE MIDTERM ELECTIONS.
WHY SHE'S CHOOSING NOW TO GET
POLITICAL.
>> Ian: AS HURRICANE MICHAEL
GETS CLOSER AND GROWS STRONGER,
EVACUATIONS ARE UNDERWAY ALONG
THE GULF OF MEXICO.
WHY THIS MONSTER STORM IS
EXPECTED TO BE SO BAD.
>> Adrienne: AND A CANADIAN
EXCLUSIVE.
NAHLAH AYED TAKES US INSIDE
MYANMAR FOR A RARE GLIMPSE OF
WHAT IS LEFT OF THE ROHINGYA
VILLAGES AFTER THE MASSACRE.
HERE'S A PREVIEW...
>> Reporter: IMMEDIATELY
STRIKING AS WE DRIVE NORTH INTO
THE KILLING ZONE, THE HAUNTING
HINTS OF THE RAZED ROHINGYA
MUSLIM VILLAGES THAT REMAIN.
LOOK AT THAT RIGHT THERE.
WHAT LOOKS LIKE COCONUT TREES
BUT ITS TOPS ARE TAKEN OFF.
A FEW MORE HERE.
WHAT WE HAVE BEEN TOLD IS THAT
THOSE ARE THE REMNANTS OF
VILLAGES THAT HAVE BEEN BURNED.
WOW, LOOK AT THAT.
LOOK, MORE.
AS WE SPEED BY ONE VILLAGE WE
COULD ONLY IDENTIFY WITH THE-AS WE SPEED B Y ONE VILLAGE WE
COULD ONLY IDENTIFY WITH THE
HELP OF AN APP ON A MAP.
HUMAN RIGHTS WATCH SAID THAT 700
BUILDINGS WERE BURNED DOWN HERE
IN A SYSTEMIC CAMPAIGN.
THERE'S NOTHING LEFT TO COME
BACK TO.
>> Adrienne: NAHLAH'S FULL
REPORT A LITTLE LATER ON "THE
NATIONAL."
>> Rosemary: CANADA IS JUST
EIGHT DAYS AWAY NOW FROM LEGAL
RECREATIONAL POT.
TODAY WE LEARNED HOW THAT WILL
AFFECT SOME OF THIS COUNTRY'S
POLICE OFFICERS.
BRIAR STEWART LOOKS AT HOW MUCH
WEED IS CONSIDERED TOO MUCH FOR
SOMEONE WHO WEARS A BADGE.
>> Reporter: IN JUST OVER A
WEEK LEGAL RECREATIONAL POT WILL
MEAN CHANGES FOR POLICE ON THE
JOB.
THE DEPARTMENTS ARE ALSO HAVING
TO CONSIDER WHAT THEIR OFFICERS
SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO DO ON THEIR
OWN TIME.
>> WE TRUST OUR EMPLOYEES AND WE
LOOKED AT THE POLICIES
SURROUNDING PRESCRIPTION USE AND
ALCOHOL USE AND WE REALLY DON'T
HAVE AN ISSUE HERE.
>> Reporter: THE VANCOUVER
POLICE DEPARTMENT IS TAKING THE
SAME APPROACH TO RECREATIONAL
CANNABIS AS TO ALCOHOL.
OFFICERS WON'T BE TOLD WHAT THEY
CAN AND CAN'T DO WHILE THEY'RE
NOT AT WORK BUT THEY'RE REQUIRED
TO SHOW UP FIT FOR DUTY.
OTHER POLICE FORCES HAVE MORE
RESTRICTIVE POLICIES.
THE RCMP IS LOOKING AT BANNING
OFFICERS FROM USING RECREATIONAL
CANNABIS FOR 28 DAYS BEFORE A
SHIFT.
TODAY TORONTO POLICE ANNOUNCED
THAT IT'S THEIR POLICY.
>> THEY'VE MADE THE DECISION
BASED ON THE ROLE THAT OUR
OFFICERS PLAY IN PROTECTING
COMMUNITY SAFETY.
AND RIGHT NOW THE SCIENCE TELLS
US THAT YOU CAN BE IMPAIRED
AND/OR HAVE THE EFFECTS OF
CANNABIS UP TO 28 DAYS OF USE.
>> Reporter: THE CALGARY
POLICE DEPARTMENT GOES EVEN
FURTHER.
IF THE OFFICERS ARE TRAINED TO
USE FIREARMS AND CAN BE CALLED
IN FOR ACTIVE DUTY THEY CAN'T
USE EVER.
THE UNION EXPECTS CHALLENGES TO
THE POLICY.
>> I'VE EVEN HAD MEMBERS
APPROACH ME THAT HAVE SAID I'M
NOT EVEN PLANNING ON USING BUT I
DON'T THINK THAT IT'S FAIR FOR
MY EMPLOYER TO TELL ME WHAT I'M
GOING TO DO ON MY OWN TIME.
>> Reporter: IT DOESN'T HELP
THAT THERE ARE NO COMMON
GUIDELINES FOR ALL FORCES.
>> THAT'S WHAT THEY MEAN BY
FITNESS FOR DUTY...
>> Reporter: THIS
CRIMINOLOGIST BELIEVES THAT
HAVING INCONSISTENT POLICIES CAN
LEAD TO CONFUSION.
>> IT RAISES QUESTIONS ABOUT THE
RELIABILITY OF SOME OF THESE
LIMITATIONS BECAUSE THE
CIRCUMSTANCES OF POLICING AND
THE EXPERIENCES AND THE
ENVIRONMENT OF POLICING ARE NOT
THAT DIFFERENT FROM ONE CITY TO
ANOTHER.
>> Reporter: BUT AS IT STANDS
THE RULES FOR POLICE OFFICERS
WILL DIFFER.
JUST BECAUSE RECREATIONAL POT
WOULD BE LEGAL FOR CANADIAN
ADULTS, IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT
EVERYONE WILL BE ALLOWED TO
PARTAKE.
BRIAR STEWART, CBC NEWS,
VANCOUVER.
>> Rosemary: AS BRIAR JUST
MENTIONED THERE, EACH POLICE
FORCE IS GOING AT IT THEIR OWN
WAY AND SO HOW DO THEY COME TO
THE CONCLUSIONS?
JASON BUSSE RESEARCHES THE
EFFECTS OF CANNABIS AT
McMASTER UNIVERSITY AND HE'S
IN TORONTO TONIGHT.
GOOD TO SEE YOU, JASON.
TORONTO POLICE SAY THAT THEIR
OFFICERS CAN'T USE CANNABIS FOR
28 DAYS BEFORE REPORTING FOR
DUTY AND THERE'S OTHER POLICE
FORCES GOING WITH THAT NUMBER AS
WELL.
WHERE DO YOU THINK THAT NUMBER
CAME FROM?
>> IT'S DIFFICULT TO KNOW WHERE
THAT NUMBER COMES FROM BUT THERE
MUST BE SOME KIND OF
TEST THAT THEY'RE USING TO
DETECT THE PRESENCE OF CANNABIS
IN AN OFFICER'S SYSTEM.
THE T.H.C. IS BROKEN DOWN INTO
METABOLITES WHICH CAN BE
DETECTED IN URINE, FOR EXAMPLE.
AND BECAUSE T.H.C. IS STORED IN
FAT CELLS CAN IT LEECH INTO THE
SYSTEM AFTER THE HIGH HAS PASSED
AND IT CAN BE DETECTED DEPENDING
FOR DAYS AND EVEN UP TO WEEKS.
SO THEY MAY BE LOOKING AT SOME
TYPE OF TEST THAT IS FOCUSING
MORE ON THE METABOLITES OR THE
BREAKDOWN PRODUCTS OF CANNABIS
AS OPPOSED TO THE ACTUAL EFFECTS
THAT IT MIGHT HAVE ON AN
OFFICER.
>>> Rosemary: OKAY, SO IT MIGHT
NOT
BE THAT YOU'RE HIGH FOR 28 DAYS
BECAUSE THAT DOESN'T SOUND
RIGHT, BUT HOW LONG DOES T.H.C.
STAY IN A PERSON'S BODY, AND
DOES IT LEAVE THEM IMPAIRED FOR
A LONG PERIOD OF TIME?
>> WELL, DEPENDING ON HOW THEY
TAKE IT IN -- WHETHER THEY SMOKE
IT,
INHALE IT OR INGEST IT, THE
POTENCY OF THE PRODUCT AND HOW
MUCH T.H.C. WHICH IS IN IT,
WHICH IS THE PSYCHOACTIVE
COMPONENT, THE PERSON'S
METABOLISM, THIS ALL PLAYS A
PART IN HOW LONG IT STAYS IN
YOUR SYSTEM.
BUT IN TERMS OF THE ACTUAL HIGH
THAT YOU FEEL, THAT EUPHORIA, IF
YOU INHALE OR SMOKE CANNABIS
THAT LASTS ONE TO THREE HOURS ON
AVERAGE.
IF YOU INGEST THROUGH AN EDIBLE
IT MIGHT BE FOUR TO SIX HOURS,
DEPENDING HOW MUCH YOU HAVE IN
YOUR STOMACH WHEN YOU HAVE TAKEN
THE PRODUCT.
BUT YOU'RE RIGHT, THE IDEA THAT
YOU WOULD REMAIN IMPAIRED FOR A
PERIOD OF 28 DAYS OR EVEN A
MATTER OF DAYS IS SIMPLY
UNTENABLE.
>> Rosemary: ONLY ABOUT 30
SECONDS BUT HOW WORRIED ARE YOU
AT THIS STAGE ABOUT PEOPLE
COMING INTO WORK WITH CANNABIS
STILL IN THEIR SYSTEM?
AND DO YOU THINK WHAT WE'RE
SEEING FROM POLICE IS MORE ABOUT
LIABILITY?
>> I SUSPECT THAT IT IS MORE THE
LATTER.
I THINK THAT THERE'S BEEN A LOT
OF PRODUCTS OUT THERE, A LOT OF
SUBSTANCES THAT PEOPLE CAN TAKE
IN, WHETHER IT'S A GLASS OF BEER
OR A GLASS OF WINE THAT HAVE THE
POTENTIAL TO IMPAIR YOU AND,
CERTAINLY I THINK THAT MOST
OFFICERS HANDLE THAT
RESPONSIBILITY.
THEY DO WHAT THEY DO ON THEIR
TIME OFF, IT DOESN'T EFFECT WHAT
THEY DO AT WORK.
SO I'M NOT OVERLY CONCERNED THEY
MIGHT HAVE A METABOLITE IN THEIR
SYSTEM.
BUT A 28-DAY SPAN SEEMS
EXCESSIVE FOR THAT.
>> Rosemary: JASON BUSSE,
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME, I
APPRECIATE IT.
>> THANK YOU.
>> Rosemary: IT'S NOT JUST
POLICE FORCES
GRAPPLING WITH THIS ISSUE, AND
TODAY WESTJET SAID THAT ANYONE
IN
"SAFETY SENSITIVE POSITIONS"
WOULD BE BANNED FROM MARIJUANA
USE EVEN WHEN NOT AT WORK.
AND AIR CANADA HAD A SIMILAR
POLICY.
HOW ABOUT FIREFIGHTERS?
WELL, TORONTO FIREFIGHTERS ARE
NOT CHANGING THEIR POLICY.
THAT EMPLOYEES ARE STRICTLY
PROHIBITED
FROM SHOWING UP TO WORK
IMPAIRED.
VANCOUVER ADDS THAT YOU CAN'T
TAKE ANY IMPAIRING SUBSTANCE
FOUR HOURS BEFORE A SHIFT.
AND SOME ARE STILL TRYING TO
COME UP WITH A POLICY AND WE
HAVE THE CANADA BORDER SERVICES
AGENCY AND CORRECTIONAL SERVICE
OF CANADA AND N.A.V. CANADA
WHICH RUNS CANADA'S AIR
NAVIGATION SYSTEM.
>> Ian: TO NEW BRUNSWICK NOW
WHERE CHOOSING TO LIVE NEAR
CANADA'S BIGGEST OIL REFINERY
COMES WITH AN UNDERSTANDING OF
THE POTENTIAL RISK.
STILL, AFTER YESTERDAY'S
EXPLOSION SENT FLAMES SHOOTING
INTO THE AIR AND PEOPLE RUNNING
FOR THEIR LIVES, YOU CAN IMAGINE
SOME OF THE THOUSANDS WHO LIVE
NEARBY MAY BE ON EDGE.
KAYLA HOUNSELL SPOKE WITH
RESIDENTS IN SAINT JOHN.
>> Reporter: AS CREWS CONTINUE
TO SPRAY WATER IN AN EFFORT TO
PREVENT FLARE-UPS, THE REFINERY
PARKING LOT SITS LARGELY EMPTY.
YESTERDAY'S FLAMES SHOT INTO THE
AIR AFTER AN EXPLOSION THAT
ROCKED THE CITY.
>> IF YOU STOOD ON THE STEPS YOU
COULD SEE THE FLAMES AS WELL
THROUGH THE TREES.
>> Reporter: GORDON DAIZELL
LIVES HALF A KILOMETRE AWAY.
HE'S AN ENVIRONMENTAL ACTIVIST
AND FOR YEARS SAT ON IRVING
OIL'S COMMUNITY LIAISON
COMMITTEE.
>> IF I HAD TO MAKE A DECISION
WOULD WE MOVE HERE, I DON'T
THINK SO.
>> Reporter: DAIZELL MOVED
INTO THE NEIGHBOURHOOD IN 1979.
THE REFINERY WAS HERE THEN TOO
BUT IT HAS SINCE EXPANDED
SIGNIFICANTLY.
THERE'S A SIMILAR SITUATION IN
REGINA WHERE THE COMPLEX IS ALSO
SITUATED NEAR A RESIDENTIAL
NEIGHBOURHOOD.
>> A LOT OF ATTENTION HAS BEEN
ON THE TRANSPORT OF OIL BY RAIL,
MARINE TRANSPORT, AND PIPELINE,
OF COURSE.
BUT REFINERY SAFETY, BECAUSE THE
INCIDENTS ARE RELATIVELY
INFREQUENT, IT DOESN'T GET A LOT
OF ATTENTION.
>> Reporter: BUT SEAN TUCKER
WHO RISEARCHES REFINERY SAFETY,
SAYS THAT EXPLOSIONS AT CANADIAN
REFINERIES ARE HAPPENING MORE
OFTEN, PARTLY DUE TO AGING
INFRASTRUCTURE.
>> IT'S PROBLEMATIC BECAUSE OVER
TIME IT CAN LEAD TO HOLES IN THE
PIPING AND GASES OR LIQUIDS
ESCAPING.
IF THERE'S AN IGNITION SOURCE
YOU CAN HAVE A POTENTIAL FOR
CATASTROPHIC EXPLOSION.
>> Reporter: TUCKER ALSO SAYS
THAT REFINERIES NEED TO
COMMUNICATE OPENLY WITH
>> Reporter: TUCKER ALSO SAYS
THAT REFINERIES NEED TO
COMMUNICATE OPENLY WITH
COMMUNITIES.
DAIZELL SAYS SO DO THE EMERGENCY
MANAGEMENT OFFICIALS.
>> PEOPLE WERE GETTING ANXIOUS
AND CONCERNED AND
D.M.O. HAS TO IMPROVE,
SIGNIFICANTLY IMPROVE, THEIR
COMMUNICATION STRATEGIES.
>> Reporter: HE AND MANY
OTHERS SAY THAT THE INFORMATION
FLOW WAS TOO SLOW.
>> CITIZENS HAVE SPOKEN LOUDLY
THAT THERE WERE GAPS IN THEIR
VIEW ON COMMUNICATION AND I
AGREE.
IT WILL BE REVIEWED.
>> Reporter: AS FOR GORDON
DAIZELL HE SAYS HE'S NOT MOVING
NO MATTER THE RISK.
KAYLA HOUNSELL, CBC NEWS, SAINT
JOHN.
>> Ian: TURNING TO THE U.S. NOW
WE'RE TRACKING A MAJOR STORM
THAT IS ABOUT TO MAKE LANDFALL.
HURRICANE MICHAEL DEVELOPED
QUICKLY AND IT IS GAINING
STRENGTH.
IT'S SPINNING OVER THE WARM
WATERS OF THE GULF OF MEXICO,
PICKING UP STEAM AND IT'S
EXPECTED TO SLAM INTO THE
FLORIDA PANHANDLE AS POTENTIALLY
A CATEGORY 4 TOMORROW.
RENÉE FILIPPONE IS TRACKING THIS
STORM FOR US THIS EVENING.
RENEE, TELL US WHAT MAKES
MICHAEL SO DANGEROUS.
>> Reporter: WELL, IAN, A
STORM OF THIS SIZE IN THIS PART
OF FLORIDA IS PRETTY RARE.
ONLY THREE MAJOR HURRICANES HAVE
HIT THE PANHANDLE SINCE 1950.
THE LAST ONE BEING DENNIS IN
2005 WHEN 88 PEOPLE DIED.
SO OFFICIALS ARE UNDERSTANDABLY
CONCERNED AND ARE URGING PEOPLE
TO LISTEN TO WARNINGS, TO LEAVE
OR TO GET PREPARED.
PINEAPPLE WILLIES WAS CLOSED
TODAY BUT EMPLOYEES WERE HARD AT
WORK.
>> WE'RE JUST TRYING TO GET ALL
OF THE WINDOWS AND STUFF BOARDED
UP, GET THE SHUTTERS ON, TURN
ALL OF THE GAS AND STUFF OFF.
>> Reporter: THE RESTAURANT
SITS ON THE BEACH RIGHT IN THE
PATH OF HURRICANE MICHAEL.
>> THIS ONE KIND OF CAME UP OUT
OF NOWHERE AND NO ONE REALLY
TALKED ABOUT IT UNTIL YESTERDAY
IT SEEMED LIKE.
SO, I THINK THAT PEOPLE ARE
TAKING IT SERIOUSLY.
>> Reporter: MICHAEL COULD
BRING WINDS UP TO 177 km/h,
DUMPING UP TO 30 cm OF RAIN
AND CAUSE A STORM SURGE OF
NEARLY FOUR METRES.
>> THAT MEANS THAT THE WATER
WILL COME MILES IN SHORE AND
COULD EASILY BE OVER THE ROOF OF
HOUSES.
THINK ABOUT THAT.
>> Reporter: OFFICIALS ARE
EXPECTING A LOT OF DAMAGE AND
WIDESPREAD POWER OUTAGES.
AT LEAST 120,000 PEOPLE HAVE
BEEN TOLD TO LEAVE AND MILLIONS
MORE IN FLORIDA AND NEIGHBOURING
STATES ARE ON ALERT.
>> THIS IS NOT ABOUT POLITICS.
I LOVE MY FAMILY AND I LOVE ALL
OF THE FAMILIES IN THE STATE SO
I WILL DO WHATEVER I CAN TO GET
PEOPLE SAFE.
>> Reporter: THOSE WHO AREN'T
LEAVING ARE PREPARING TO WAIT
OUT THE STORM.
>> WE OPENED UP AT 6:00 AND BY
6:15 WE HAD SOLD EVERY GENERATOR
THAT WE HAD.
>> Reporter: AT GAS PUMPS AND
GROCERY STORES THE LINEUPS WERE
TOO LONG FOR SOME.
>> THE PUMPS ARE COVERED WITH
BAGS.
WALMART IS EMPTY WITH
WATER SO IT'S JUST EASIER TO
STAY.
>> Reporter: WITH MICHAEL
CLOSING IN, TIME IS RUNNING OUT.
NOT JUST TO PREPARE BUT TO GET
OUT.
>> Ian: RENEE, I'M SURE THAT A
LOT OF PEOPLE ARE WONDERING HOW
THIS COMPARES TO THE OTHER MAJOR
HURRICANE OF THE YEAR --
FLORENCE?
>> Reporter: WELL, FLORENCE,
DESPITE ALL OF THE FORECASTS
ACTUALLY ENDED UP WEAKENING
BEFORE IT HIT THE COAST.
THAT DOESN'T
APPEAR TO BE THE CASE WITH
MICHAEL.
OFFICIALS ARE EXPECTING THE
DAMAGE, ESPECIALLY TO POWER
GRIDS, TO BE EVEN WORSE.
AND KEEP IN MIND, IAN, WHEN THIS
STORM MOVES NORTH IT WILL HIT
NORTH CAROLINA WHICH IS STILL
DEALING WITH THE CLEANUP FROM
FLORENCE.
>> Ian: RENEE, THANK YOU.
>> Reporter: YOU'RE WELCOME.
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>> Adrienne: SOME OTHER
STORIES THAT WE ARE FOLLOWING
TONIGHT ON "THE NATIONAL,"
STARTING IN WASHINGTON WITH THE
SPECULATION OVER WHO WILL
REPLACE NIKKI HALEY AT THE U.N.
>> IT WAS A BLESSING TO GO INTO
THE U.N. WITH BODY ARMOUR EVERY
DAY AND DEFEND AMERICA.
I'LL ALWAYS DO THAT.
I'LL NEVER TRULY STEP ASIDE OF
FIGHTING FOR OUR COUNTRY BUT I
WILL TELL YOU THAT I THINK THAT
IT'S TIME.
>> Adrienne: HALEY ANNOUNCED
THAT SHE WILL LEAVE THE POST AS
U.S. AMBASSADOR BY THE END OF
THE YEAR.
SHE SAYS SHE HAS NO PLANS TO RUN
FOR OFFICE IN 2020 AND WILL
CAMPAIGN FOR TRUMP.
NOW TRUMP SAYS THAT HE ALREADY
HAS A SHORTLIST OF POSSIBLE
CONTENDERS TO REPLACE HER,
INCLUDING THE FORMER DEPUTY
NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISOR DINA
POWELL.
>>> EMERGENCY CREWS IN B.C. ARE
WORKING ON A GAS LINE EXPLOSION
NORTHWEST OF PRINCE GEORGE
TONIGHT.
THE BLAZE STARTED BURNING AROUND
SHELLEY, SENDING FLAMES HIGH
INTO THE AIR.
A NEARBY FIRST NATION HAS BEEN
EVACUATED.
>> Ian: AHEAD TONIGHT ON "THE
NATIONAL"... WE'RE THE ONLY
CANADIAN JOURNALISTS ON THE
GROUND IN MYANMAR, THE SITE OF
WHAT SOME SAY WAS A GENOCIDE.
NAHLAH AYED TAKES AN IN-DEPTH
LOOK AT WHAT HAS AND HAS NOT
CHANGED A YEAR LATER.
>> Adrienne: AND A LITTLE
LATER, TWO STRANGERS AND TWO
SEPARATE D.N.A. TESTS AND ONE
LIFE-CHANGING DISCOVERY.
>> Rosemary: FIRST THOUGH,
TAYLOR SWIFT TAKES A POLITICAL
STAND.
COULD THE POWER OF A POP STAR
SWAY THE MIDTERM ELECTIONS?
* WHAT YOU MADE ME DO
* WHAT YOU MADE ME DO
>> President Donald Trump:
LET'S SAY THAT I LIKE TAYLOR'S
* IS IT YOUR TURN
(*)
>> Rosemary: TAYLOR SWIFT IS
GETTING POLITICAL FOR THE FIRST
TIME.
SHE POSTED ON INSTAGRAM THAT
SHE'D BE VOTING FOR THE
DEMOCRATIC
CANDIDATE IN TENNESSEE AND
REMINDED HER FANS TO REGISTER TO
VOTE.
UNLIKE HERE IN CANADA WHERE YOU
CAN WALK IN AND REGISTER ON
VOTING DAY, THE DEADLINE FOR
TENNESSEE AND NEARLY A DOZEN
OTHER STATES WAS TODAY.
SWIFT'S MESSAGE SEEMS TO HAVE
GIVEN REGISTRATION A HUGE BUMP
BUT AS STEVEN D'SOUZA EXPLAINS,
WE'LL HAVE TO SEE IF THAT STAR
POWER IS ENOUGH TO GET THEM TO
THE POLLS.
>> Reporter: UNTIL THIS
WEEKEND TAYLOR SWIFT HAD USED
HER STAGE TO TALK ABOUT
BREAK-UPS AND BOYFRIENDS.
BUT WHEN SHE PUT OUT A POLITICAL
CALL TO TENS OF MILLIONS OF HER
FANS IT SIGNALLED A SHIFT INTO A
NEW ARENA.
>> TO SEE SUCH A BOLD AND
LENGTHY STATEMENT WAS SORT OF A
HALLELUJAH MOMENT AS A TAYLOR
SWIFT FAN.
>> Reporter: IT WAS A MOMENT
THAT SOME REPUBLICANS, INCLUDING
THE PRESIDENT, USED TO ATTACK
THE POP STAR AS ANOTHER
OUT-OF-TOUCH ELITE.
>> President Donald Trump:
LET'S SAY THAT I LIKE TAYLOR'S
MUSIC ABOUT 25% LESS NOW, OKAY?
>> Reporter: FORMER ARKANSAS
GOVERNOR MIKE HUCKABEE
SAID IT WON'T MATTER UNLESS WE
ALLOW 13-YEAR-OLD GIRLS TO VOTE.
WITH A CAREER IN POP MUSIC
SPANNING MORE THAN A DECADE AND
WITH THREE TIMES MORE FOLLOWERS
THAN DONALD TRUMP ON TWITTER AND
INSTAGRAM, EXPERTS SAY THAT
CRITICS DISMISS HER AUDIENCE AT
THEIR PERIL.
>> IF SOMEBODY WAS 8 YEARS OLD
AGO 10 YEARS AGO LISTENING TO
TAYLOR SWIFT, THEY'RE 18 NOW AND
THEIR FIRST CHANCE TO VOTE.
>> Reporter: SINCE SUNDAY
VOTE.ORG, A NONPARTISAN GROUP
PROMOTING VOTER TURNOUT, SAYS
THAT 230,000
PEOPLE HAVE REGISTERED.
MORE THAN 60% OF THEM WERE UNDER
THE AGE OF 30.
WHETHER THAT WILL TRANSLATE INTO
VOTES IS HARD TO SAY.
ONLY ABOUT 23% OF YOUNG VOTERS
TURNED UP FOR THE LAST MIDTERM
ELECTION.
AND WHILE SWIFT'S NEMESIS, KAYNE
WEST, IS TELLING WHOMEVER WILL
LISTEN THAT HE SUPPORTS TRUMP
AND PLANS TO VISIT THE WHITE
HOUSE LATER THIS WEEK THIS
MARKETING EXPERT SAYS WHAT THE
POP STAR DID IS MORE VALUABLE
BECAUSE UNLIKE KAYNE THAT SHE'S
KEPT SILENT UNTIL NOW.
>> THE FACT THAT SHE HASN'T BEEN
KNOWN TO DO IT BEFORE IS
PROBABLY THE MOST CRITICAL
BECAUSE IT'S A SURPRISE.
>> Reporter: THE RACE WHICH IS
HIGHLIGHTED IN TENNESSEE IS ONE
OF THE CLOSEST IN THE COUNTRY.
ANALYSTS WILL WATCH TO SEE IF
THE DEMOCRAT THERE WILL GET A
BUMP AND TO SEE IF TAYLOR SWIFT
REALLY IS IN TUNE WITH VOTERS.
STEVEN D'SOUZA, CBC NEWS, NEW
YORK.
>> Ian: UP NEXT ON "THE
NATIONAL," A LOOK INSIDE OF
MYANMAR A YEAR AFTER ROHINGYA
MUSLIMS WERE FORCED TO FLEE.
>> Reporter: YOU PREFER TO
STAY THERE THAN TO COME HERE?
(*)
>> Ian: ONE YEAR AGO THE CBC'S
NAHLAH AYED AND HER TEAM WERE IN
BANGLADESH AS THE ROHINGYA
CRISIS WAS UNFOLDING.
HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF
ROHINGYA REFUGEES WERE FLEEING
VIOLENCE IN MYANMAR, WHAT THE
U.N. CALLS ETHNIC CLEANSING AND
CANADIAN LAWMAKERS SAY WAS A
GENOCIDE.
NOW ONE YEAR LATER CBC NEWS HAS
GAINED RARE ACCESS INSIDE OF
MYANMAR ITSELF.
WE'RE THE ONLY CANADIAN NEWS
ORGINISATION TO TRAVEL TO RAKIND
STATE AS A GOVERNMENT TOUR.
IT WAS A WHIRLWIND TRIP TIGHTLY
CONTROLLED BUT THERE WAS NO
MISTAKING WHAT THE CREW FOUND.
BUT SOMETHING UNSPEAKABLE HAD
TRANSPIRED.
HERE'S NAHLAH ON WHAT SHE SAW
THEN AND NOW.
>> Reporter: WE LAST LEFT THEM
PERCHED AT WHAT SEEMED LIKE THE
EDGE OF THE WORLD.
UNLUCKY TO BE STUCK IN NO MAN'S
LAND
FROM THE BANGLADESH SIDE OF THE
BORDER WITH MYANMAR.
STUNNED BY THE VIOLENCE AND THE
SCALE OF IT.
A MAN SPEAKING, MOHAMMED, IS
EVEN AFRAID TO SHOW HIS
FACE.
>> I DON'T WANT TO STAY HERE.
I WANT TO GO BACK AS SOON AS
POSSIBLE.
I APPEAL TO THE WORLD BODY TO DO
MORE AND MORE PRESSURE TO STOP
GENOCIDE ON ROHINGYAS.
>> Reporter: A YEAR LATER
WE'RE IN MYANMAR AND GENOCIDE IS
A WORD FAR MORE READILY USED
ABROAD TO DESCRIBE WHAT HAPPENED
TO ROHINGYA MUSLIMS HERE.
MYANMAR REJECTING THE CHARGE AND
REFUSING OUTSIDE INVESTIGATORS.
THEY TELL AN ALTERNATIVE VERSION
OF THE STORY.
PARTLY THROUGH CONTROLLED ACCESS
TO RAKHINE STATE WHERE THE
ATROCITIES UNFOLDED.
WE TOO WERE INVITED TO VISIT,
ESCORTED BY THE MINISTRY
INFORMATION OFFICIALS.
CAN WE SPEND JUST A LITTLE BIT
MORE TIME THEN?
WE ASKED TO SEE SPECIFIC
VILLAGES.
THEY INSISTED THAT THE AGENDA
WAS SET AND DON'T ASK THE
DRIVERS TO STOP.
IT IS A LONG WAY TO THE NORTHERN
RAKIND AND WE ARE LATE.
A YEAR AND HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS
OF REFUGEES LATER.
BUT BY SEEING EVEN GLIMPSES WE
MIGHT STILL GAIN INSIGHT.
IT'S NOT PERFECT WEATHER TODAY,
LIGHTNING AND RAIN AND
THUNDERSTORMS.
IT WOULD HAVE BEEN SOMETHING
LIKE THIS ALMOST EXACTLY A YEAR
AGO WHEN THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE
WERE TRYING TO GET FROM MYANMAR
TO BANGLADESH IN WATERS NOT FAR
FROM HERE.
IT'S NO WONDER THAT SO MANY OF
THEM DIED AT SEA.
IMMEDIATELY STRIKING AS WE DRIVE
NORTH INTO THE KILLING ZONE, THE
HAUNTING HINTS OF THE RAZED
ROHINGYA MUSLIM VILLAGES THAT
REMAIN.
LOOK AT THAT RIGHT THERE.
IT'S WHAT LOOKS LIKE COCONUT
TREES BUT IT'S HAD THEIR TOPS
TAKEN OFF.
THERE'S A FEW MORE HERE.
AND WHAT WE HAVE BEEN TOLD IS
THAT THOSE ARE THE REMNANTS OF
VILLAGES THAT HAVE BEEN BURNED.
WOW, LOOK AT THAT.
WOW, ACTUALLY MORE.
AS WE SPEED BY ONE VILLAGE, WE
COULD ONLY IDENTIFY WITH THE
HELP OF A MAP PHONE APP.
HUMAN RIGHTS WATCH SAYS THAT 700
BUILDINGS WERE BURNED DOWN HERE
IN A SYSTEMIC CAMPAIGN.
THERE'S NOTHING LEFT TO COME
BACK TO.
AND ALSO STRIKING A LOT OF
BUILDING IS GOING ON.
AS THE ACKNOWLEDGED SITE OF A
MASSACRE, THE VILLAGE OF INN DIN
BECAME A
PECULIAR PLACE FOR A FIRST
START.
BURNED ARE MOSTLY THE MUSLIM
SECTIONS.
THE REST LEFT INTACT.
NOT A SINGLE ROHINGYA MUSLIM
RESIDENT IS LEFT.
>> [speaking foreign
language].
>> Reporter: AND THEY'RE
PROBABLY NOT COMING BACK SAYS
THE VILLAGE ADMINISTRATOR.
HE SAYS THAT THE NEW HOMES ARE
FOR NEW RAKHINE AND HINDU
RESIDENTS.
THE REVELATION OF THE MASSACRE
AND THE MASS GRAVES HERE LED TO
PRISON SENTENCES FOR SEVEN
BURMESE SOLDIERS INVOLVED BUT
ALSO FOR THE REUTERS JOURNALIST
WHO INVESTIGATED IT.
THERE IS NOTHING LEFT, ANY KIND
OF EVIDENCE, THAT ANYTHING
UNTOWARD HAPPENED HERE.
AND, FURTHERMORE, PEOPLE HERE
ESSENTIALLY SAYING THEY DON'T
KNOW IF THERE WAS A MASSACRE.
AN OLDER COUPLE FINALLY LET US
IN.
SHE HAD A TEA SHOP WHERE THE
MUSLIM KIDS ALSO HUNG OUT.
SHE SAID THEY WARNED HER ABOUT
AN IMPENDING ATTACK.
SHE USES A DEROGATORY NAME FOR
MUSLIMS.
>> [speaking foreign language]
RAKHINE BUDDHISTS KILLING IS ONE
OUT OF HUNDREDS.
THE DIFFERENCE IS THAT RAKHINE
BUDDHISTS
ARE KIND AND FEEL FOR OTHERS,
SHE SAID.
SO MANY MORE QUESTIONS.
BUT IT WAS TIME TO GO.
A LONG RIDE DOWN THE ROAD.
THE DISTRICT OF MAUNGDAW, ONCE
OVERWHELMINGLY ROHINGYA.
NOW A MILLION OF THEM ARE SIMPLY
GONE.
>> [speaking foreign
language].
>> Reporter: LOCAL OFFICIALS
CALL THEM BENGALY AND THEY TELL
US THAT THEY'RE WORKING AND
REBUILDING TO BRING THEM BACK.
THEY REJECT ACCUSATIONS OF
GENOCIDE OR ETHNIC CLEANSING IN
THEIR MIDST.
>> [speaking foreign
language].
>> Reporter: FOR ME I DON'T
BELIEVE IT, SAYS U YE HTOO, THE
MAUNGDAW DISTRICT DEPUTY
DIRECTOR.
IT WAS THE TERRORIST GROUP HE
SAYS, KNOWN AS ARSA,
THE ROHINGYA SALVATION ARMY.
HE LATER SHOWED A VIDEO THAT HE
SAYS IS PROOF.
IF THERE'S A GENOCIDE GOING ON
HOW COME MUSLIMS ARE STILL HERE,
SAYS THIS OFFICIAL.
THEY ALSO BLAMED THE GROUP FOR
PREVENTING ROHINGYA FROM COMING
BACK.
NO ONE MENTIONS THE RESISTANCE
IN SOME PARTS HERE TO SUCH
RETURNS.
>> [speaking foreign
language].
>> Reporter: WE'RE INTRODUCED
TO THIS MAN AND HIS FAMILY.
HE SAID HE RETURNED ON FOOT FROM
BANGLADESH AND HE ECHOES THE
LOCAL OFFICIALS.
WHY DID YOU DECIDE TO TELL YOUR
STORY?
WHY IS IT IMPORTANT?
>> [speaking foreign
language].
>> Reporter: MY PROPERTIES AND
MY HOUSE WERE BURNT, HE SAYS.
WE'RE LIVING LIKE BEGGARS.
I WAS SO ANGRY AND IT HAPPENED
BECAUSE OF ARSA.
THAT'S WHY I'M TALKING TO THE
MEDIA SO
THAT THE WORLD KNOWS.
>> Reporter: THE NEXT DAY
AFTER SEVERAL HOURS ON BUMPY
ROADS, WE ARRIVE AT THAT BORDER.
HERE THEY SAY IS THE PROOF OF
MYANMAR'S COMMITMENT TO
REPATRIATING ROHINGYA.
A RECEPTION CENTRE READY TO
WELCOME US.
BUT THERE ARE NONE FOR US TO
MEET.
ONLY 171 PEOPLE HAVE RETURNED
SINCE IT OPENED IN JANUARY.
NEARLY A MILLION WAIT IN
BANGLADESH IN WHAT HAS BECOME
THE WORLD'S LARGEST REFUGEE
CAMP.
OFFICIALS HERE AGAIN BLAME ARSA
AND ODDLY BANGLADESH.
IN A NEW REPORT THE UNHCR SAYS
THAT THE CONDITIONS ARE NOT YET
IN PLACE FOR A SAFE DIGNIFIED
RETURN.
(*)
AT THE SO-CALLED ZERO LINE WE
HAVE THE CHANCE TO ASK WHY.
IT'S THAT SAME CAMP THAT WE
VISITED A YEAR AGO.
THIS TIME FROM THE OTHER SIDE OF
THE BORDER.
IT'S GROWN FROM ABOUT A THOUSAND
TO 5,000 PEOPLE.
MOHAMMED IS STILL HERE AND HE NO
LONGER HIDES HIS FACE AND STILL
WANTS TO GO HOME.
YOU PREFER TO STAY THERE THAN TO
COME HERE?
CRUCIAL TO THAT HE SAYS THERE
MUST BE A
TRIAL AT THE INTERNATIONAL
CRIMINAL COURT.
AND WILL THEY HAVE SOMETHING TO
COME BACK TO?
CITIZENSHIP?
THE VILLAGES?
FREE MOVEMENT?
OR HAS THEIR EXPULSION BEEN
CEMENTED ON THE GROUND?
WHY DO YOU THINK THAT THE
GOVERNMENT IS BRINGING THE MEDIA
HERE TO MEET YOU GUYS?
>> I THINK YOU ARE NOT FREE, YOU
ARE NOT INDEPENDENT.
YOU ARE ORGANIZED BY THE
GOVERNMENT.
>> Reporter: IT'S TIME TO GO
AGAIN.
>> PLEASE TAKE A SEAT AND WE GO.
>> Reporter: IT'S A VERY LONG
WAY TO GO TO GET TO THE OTHER
SIDE OF THE FENCE ONE YEAR LATER
AND THE IRONY OF BEING TOLD THAT
THE CONFLICT ENDS, THAT ON THIS
TOUR THAT WE ARE NOT FREE MEDIA.
BUT WE HAVE SEEN GLIMPSES OF A
TROUBLED REGION FUNDAMENTALLY
TRANSFORMED.
THE PALPABLE ABSENCE IN MAN'S
ACCOUNTABILITY.
NAHLAH AYED, CBC NEWS, AT THE
MYANMAR-BANGLADESH BORDER.
>> Ian: NAHLAHA JOINING US NOW.
SHE'S IN OUR BUREAU IN LONDON.
WE HEARD THE SPECIAL ENVOY
REPERTOIRE FOR
MYANMAR SAYING THAT THE COUNTRY
IS UNABLE TO UNWILLING TO
INVESTIGATE WHAT HAPPENED IN
RAKHINE STATE BUT THAT THE
INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY HAS TO
STEP UP.
AND HOW IS THE IDEA OF AN
OUTSIDE INVESTIGATION BEING
RECEIVED IN MYANMAR?
>> Reporter: WELL, NOT VERY
WARMLY, IAN.
I HAD A CHANCE TO SPEAK TO
PROFESSOR AUNG THET WHO IS THE
HEAD
OF A PRIVATE PUBLIC ORGINISATION
HEADED BY AUNG SAN SUU KYI WHICH
IS TASKED WITH HELPING RAKHINE
STATE TO GET PAST THIS CRISIS.
HE SAYS THAT MYANMAR'S OWN
INVESTIGATION IS ENOUGH TO
SATISFY THEIR CONCERNS.
>> WE WOULD NOT DO IT IF THERE'S
INTERNATIONAL PRESSURE.
WE WOULD DO IT BECAUSE IT'S
NEEDED.
IT WOULD BE ON OUR TERMS AND AT
OUR PACE, AND WHATEVER WE THINK
SUITS THE WHOLE NATION.
>> Ian: SO WHY IS THERE SO MUCH
SKEPTICISM ABOUT THEIR ABILITY
TO DO THIS?
>> Reporter: WELL, IT HAS A
LOT TO DO WITH PAST EXPERIENCE.
NICHOLAS BEQUELIN, WHO IS THE
EAST ASIA DIRECTOR AT AMNESTY
INTERNATIONAL, USES WORDS
LIKE "ZERO CREDIBILITY" IN
DESCRIBING MYANMAR'S ABILITY TO
INVESTIGATE ALONE.
HERE'S WHAT HE HAD TO SAY...
>> MYANMAR HAS A HISTORY OF
SETTING UP THIS INVESTIGATIVE
COMMISSIONS AND NONE OF THEM
HAVE YIELDED ANY KIND OF
RESULTS.
WE ALSO HAVE TO REMEMBER THAT
OTHER THE MYANMAR CONSTITUTION
THAT THE MILITARY IS ABOVE THE
LAW AND ABOVE THIS TYPE OF
INVESTIGATION BY CIVILIAN BODY.
SO FROM THE GET-GO IT'S
BASICALLY IMPOSSIBLE TO
INVESTIGATE WHAT HAS HAPPENED.
>> Reporter: IAN, I SHOULD
ALSO ADD THAT THE GOVERNMENT IS
ALLOWING ACCESS TO NORTHERN
RAKHINE STATE BUT WHEN THEY
HAVE, AS YOU HAVE SEEN, IT'S
USUALLY BEEN QUITE CONTROLLED.
IT'S NOT FOR EVERYBODY.
THE U.N. SPECIAL REPERTOIRE ON
HUMAN RIGHTS IN MYANMAR HAS
NEVER BEEN ALLOWED IN THE
COUNTRY AT ALL.
IAN?
>> Ian: NAHLAH, THANK YOU.
>> Reporter: YOU'RE WELCOME.
>> Ian: AND NAHLAH WILL CONTINUE
HER COVERAGE TOMORROW WITH A
STORY THAT HAS BEEN
MOSTLY OVERLOOKED OVER THE PAST
YEAR -- THE WRETCHED LIVES OF
ROHINGYA MUSLIMS WHO REMAIN IN
MYANMAR.
>> FOOD SECURITY, THEIR ABILITY
TO WORK IN THE FIELDS, THEIR
ABILITY TO FARM, THEIR ABILITY
TO GO FISHING, MUST BE WORSE
THAN IT WAS BEFORE.
I'M CONCERNED THAT WE'RE -- THAT
THERE'S A HIDDEN HUMANITARIAN
CRISIS HAPPENING, THAT WE'RE
UNABLE TO MEASURE.
>> Ian: THAT IS TOMORROW ON "THE
NATIONAL."
>> Adrienne: STILL AHEAD
TONIGHT ON "THE NATIONAL"...
AFTER DIGGING INTO THE HISTORY
OF ONE OF THE SUSPECTS IN THE
SKRIPAL POISONING, NEW DETAILS
REVEAL A CONNECTION TO RUSSIAN
INTELLIGENCE AND TO VLADIMIR
PUTIN.
>> HE WAS LYING TO EVERYBODY
WHEN HE SAYS THAT HE IS SURE
THAT THESE PEOPLE HAVE NOTHING
TO DO WITH THE MINISTER OF
DEFENCE AND THEY DIDN'T DO
ANYTHING CRIMINAL.
>> Rosemary: FIRST THOUGH A
PREVIEW OF AN INTERVIEW THAT
YOU'LL SEE -- HEY THAT GUY --
THAT YOU'LL
SEE TOMORROW NIGHT ON "THE
NATIONAL."
TAKE A LOOK... JEAN CHRETIEN IS
84 YEARS OLD NOW AND BEEN OUT OF
POLITICS FOR 15 YEARS BUT HE
DOESN'T MISS A BEAT.
>> A LOT OF PEOPLE LAUGH WHEN
YOU MENTION THAT NAME.
>> Rosemary: WE MET UP TO TALK
ABOUT A NEW BOOK, A REFLECTION
OF HIS LIFE IN POLITICS FROM
NAFTA...
>> THEY CHANGED THE NAME.
THAT IS A HUGE VICTORY.
>> Rosemary: TO THE
NOTWITHSTANDING CLAUSE...
>> THE NOTWITHSTANDING CLAUSE IS
IMPORTANT BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO
DECLARE THAT YOU'RE
DISCRIMINATING.
>> Rosemary: TO THE
LEGALIZATION OF CANNABIS.
MARIJUANA IS ABOUT TO BE
LEGALIZED?
>> I NEVER TASTED THAT I DON'T
KNOW.
I DON'T HAVE A CLUE ABOUT IT.
>> Rosemary: MY CONVERSATION
WITH JEAN CHRETIEN, THAT IS
TOMORROW NIGHT ON "THE
NATIONAL."
(*)
(*)
>> OH, MY GOD.
OH, MY GOD.
>> HELP!
HELP!
>> Rosemary: ON "THE NATIONAL"
TONIGHT THE HUSBAND OF A WOMAN
KILLED IN A HOUSE EXPLOSION IN
KITCHENER, ONTARIO, HAS NOW BEEN
CHARGED WITH FIRST-DEGREE MURDER
MURDER.
58-YEAR-OLD EDRA HAAN'S BODY WAS
FOUND IN THE BACKYARD AFTER THE
BLAST IN AUGUST.
HER HUSBAND, UDO HAAN
IS STILL IN HOSPITAL WITH
CRITICAL INJURIES.
>> GO, GO, GO...
>> Rosemary: AFTER A WEEK OF
CONTROVERSY QUÉBEC'S INCOMING
GOVERNMENT LOOKS OPEN TO A
COMPROMISE ON LAWS AROUND
RELIGIOUS SYMBOLS.
LAST WEEK THE C.A.Q. SAID THEY
WERE PREPARED TO FIRE OR FIND
NEW JOBS FOR TEACHERS OR PUBLIC
EMPLOYEES WHO WOULD NOT REMOVE
RELIGIOUS SYMBOLS.
THAT ANNOUNCEMENT WAS MET BY
PROTEST.
AND TODAY THE C.A.Q. SAID THEY'D
CONSIDER A CLAUSE TO ALLOW
CURRENT PUBLIC SERVANTS TO
CONTINUE WEARING THEIR RELIGIOUS
SYMBOLS BUT NOT NEW HIRES.
THE PARTY ALSO SAID TODAY THAT
THE CRUCIFIX WHICH WAS HUNG
INSIDE OF THE NATIONAL ASSEMBLY
SINCE 1936 WOULD REMAIN.
>> Adrienne: INVESTIGATIVE
JOURNALISTS IN BRITAIN AND
RUSSIA SAY THEY HAVE UNCOVERED
MORE EVIDENCE THAT VLADIMIR
PUTIN LIED ABOUT RUSSIA'S
INVOLVEMENT IN AN ASSASSINATION
ATTEMPT LAST MARCH.
NEW DETAILS FOCUS ON ONE OF THE
TWO MEN WHO ALLEGEDLY POISONED
SERGEI SKRIPAL AND HIS DAUGHTER
YULIA IN SALISBURY, ENGLAND.
THE CBC'S CHRIS BROWN SHOWS US
HOW INVESTIGATORS UNCOVERED
THEIR TRUE IDENTITY.
>> [speaking foreign
language].
>> Reporter: THAT CLUMSY
INTERVIEW WITH THE TWO ALLEGED
RUSSIAN ASSASSINS INSISTED THEY
WERE JUST TOURISTS KEEPS COMING
BACK TO HAUNT THEM.
THEY'RE PROVIDING INVESTIGATIVE
JOURNALISTS SUCH AS ROMAN
DOBROKHOTOV WITH ALL KINDS OF
LEADS.
HIS MOSCOW-BASED PUBLICATION
"THE INSIDER" PORED THROUGH
PUBLIC DATABASES AND LEARNED
THAT THE SUSPECTED POISONER
ALEXANDER PETROV IS REALLY
ALEXANDER MISHKIN, A MEDICAL
DEAR WITH THE
G.R.U.
>> I SAY THAT MOST CRITICALLY HE
IS A HERO OF RUSSIA WHICH IS THE
HIGHEST HONOUR HE CAN GET IN THE
MILITARY.
AND HE WAS HANDLED THIS STAR
ALLEGEDLY BY VLADIMIR PUTIN.
>> Reporter: ROMAN
DOBROKHOTOV'S TEAM SPOKE TO
PEOPLE IN MISHKIN'S HOMETOWN WHO
CLAIM THAT HIS GRANDMOTHER LIKES
TO SHOW OFF A PHOTO OF MISHKIN
WITH VLADIMIR PUTIN.
>> THAT MEANS THAT HE WAS LYING
TO EVERYBODY WHEN HE SAYS THAT
HE IS SURE THAT THESE PEOPLE
HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THE
MINISTER OF DEFENCE AND THEY
DIDN'T DO ANYTHING CRIMINAL.
>> Reporter: BRITISH
JOURNALIST ELLIOTT HIGGINS WHOSE
PUBLICATION BELLINGCAT EARLIER
OUTED HIS PARTNER AS A COLONEL,
SAID THAT SINCE
NOVICHOK WAS USED TO TRY TO KILL
THE SKRIPALS MAYBE THEY THOUGHT
IT WAS A GOOD SYMBOL FOR A
DOCTOR.
FOR A SECRETIVE AGENCY THE
G.R.U. HAS HAD EMBARRASSING
BLUNDERS OF LATE.
AGENTS' NAMES AND PASSPORT
NUMBERS AND LICENCE PLATES OF
HUNDREDS OF EMPLOYEES ARE ALL
PUBLISHED BY JOURNALISTS.
BUT IN RUSSIA TAKING ON THE
G.R.U. AND THE KREMLIN COMES
WITH A RISK.
ARE YOU AFRAID YOU COULD BE
ARRESTED OR WORSE?
>> WELL, WE THINK THAT THIS RISK
IS POSSIBLE, ACTUALLY, WHEN I
WAS VISITING BRITAIN TWO WEEKS
AGO AND WHEN I WAS RETURNING
BACK 100% OF THE PEOPLE WHO WERE
TALKING WITH ME TOLD ME THAT I
SHOULDN'T GO BACK TO RUSSIA
BECAUSE IT'S TOO DANGEROUS.
BUT FOR NOW IT'S OKAY.
>> [speaking foreign
language].
>> Reporter: RUSSIAN STATE TV
HAS CHOSEN TO MOSTLY IGNORE ALL
OF THE G.R.U. EMBARRASSMENTS.
TONIGHT THE TALK SHOW PANELISTS
LAUGHED IT ALL OFF, SAYING THAT
YOU CAN FIND ALL KINDS OF
CONSPIRACY THEORIES ON THE
INTERNET.
CHRIS BROWN, CBC NEWS, MOSCOW.
(*)
>> Rosemary: AHEAD A CANADIAN
CITIZENSHIP CEREMONY DELIVERS
OUR "MOMENT OF THE DAY," WITH
LET'S BE HONEST, A TOUCH OF
VERTIGO.
>> YOU FORGET ABOUT ALL OF YOUR
NERVOUSNESS AND EVERYTHING.
IT'S LIKE SO GREAT UP THERE.
I CAN'T EVEN EXPLAIN IT.
IT'S SO GREAT UP THERE.
>> Ian: BUT, FIRST, IN CASE YOU
MISSED IT...
(*)
>> Ian: BUT, FIRST, IN CASE YOU
MISSED IT...
(*)
>> YOU SEE THOSE COMMERCIALS
WHERE SOMEBODY THINKS THAT
THEY'RE ITALIAN AND THEY TURN
OUT TO BE SCOTTISH OR WHATEVER.
SO I THOUGHT, WELL, MAYBE WE'LL
GET A BIG SURPRISE TOO.
>> Ian: THAT'S STACEY KENNEDY
AND THIS IS PROBABLY THE
KIND OF SURPRISE THAT SHE WAS
EXPECTING TO FIND WHEN SHE
SIGNED UP FOR
ANCESTRY D.N.A.
>> THROUGH ANCESTRY D.N.A. I
FOUND OUT THAT I WAS ONLY 16%
ITALIAN.
>> Ian: INSTEAD SHE GOT A LOT
MORE THAN SHE BARGAINED FOR.
>> HEY!
>> Ian: THAT'S HER HALF-SISTER
KIM McFARLANE.
THE PAIR ONLY MET RECENTLY AND
DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT EACH OTHER'S
EXISTENCE BEFORE THAT.
>> I WAS JUST STUNNED AND MY
STOMACH DROPPED, SHOCK.
>> I HAD A REALLY HARD TIME
WRAPPING MY HEAD AROUND, OH,
YEAH, I HAVE A HALF-SISTER.
SO THIS WAS LIKE MOM AND DAD'S
FAVOURITE PICTURE.
>> Ian: THERE WAS MORE.
THEY WERE BORN THE SAME YEAR,
JUST FIVE MONTHS APART.
>> I DROPPED A BIG BOMBSHELL.
>> THIS WAS MOM AND DAD'S
WEDDING PHOTO.
>> Reporter: McFARLANE, WHO
IS ADOPTED, HAS THE SAME FATHER
AS KENNEDY.
NEWS THAT EVERYONE IS TAKING
PRETTY WELL.
>> IT'S BITTERSWEET FINDING HER
NOW AS OPPOSED TO EARLIER.
>> Ian: FOR NOW IT'S ABOUT
MAKING UP FOR 45 YEARS OF LOST
TIME.
>> IT'S BEEN AWESOME.
>> Rosemary: THESE FOLKS ARE
ABOUT TO TAKE THEIR FIRST STEP
AS CANADIAN CITIZENS, HOPEFULLY
NOT BACKWARDS.
THE CANADIAN GOVERNMENT IS
TAKING THE CEREMONIES TO NEW
HEIGHTS FOR SOME STRANGE
REASONS.
IN TORONTO, IT MEANT THE CN
TOWER EDGE WALK FOR THE SWEARING
IN OF SIX PEOPLE.
THAT'S OUR "MOMENT OF THE DAY."
>> I DIDN'T WANT TO LEAVE THAT
PLATFORM.
IT'S UNFORGETTABLE.
YOU FEEL LIKE A BIRD, ON TOP OF
THE WORLD.
IT'S AMAZING.
>> I SWEAR.
>> I SWEAR.
>> THAT I WILL BE FAITHFUL.
>> THAT I WILL BE FAITHFUL.
>> I'M SO TRULY HONOURED TO
BECOME, YOU KNOW, BE ABLE TO
CALL MYSELF A CANADIAN.
>> TO BE PART OF THE COMMUNITY,
SO, SO GOOD.
>> I FEEL SO LUCKY, SO, SO
BLESSED.
THIS WILL ALWAYS BE IN MY
MEMORY, OCTOBER 9.
PERFECT
* O CANADA
>> Rosemary: WOW
FIRSTLY, CONGRATULATIONS, BUT
I'M IMAGINING SOMEONE -- BECAUSE
IT'S CITIZENSHIP WEEK SOMEONE AT
HOME ABOUT TO GO THROUGH THE
CEREMONY AND SAYING, MARTHA, WE
SHOULD READ THE FINE PRINT.
IF THAT'S WHAT IT'S GOING TO
TAKE, I'M NOT IN.
>> Rosemary: THEY'RE DOING IT IN
OTHER HIGH PLACES LIKE THE
MONTREAL OLYMPIC STADIUM, SOME
LOOKOUT SPOT IN VANCOUVER, YOU
PROBABLY KNOW, IAN.
BUT LOOKING AT THAT MADE ME
NAUSEOUS, BECAUSE I'M TERRIFIED
OF HEIGHTS.
I WOULD JUST HAVE TO SAY, SORRY,
I CAN'T BE A CITIZEN.
>> Ian: KUDOS TO THE PERSON IN
THE GOVERNMENT THAT SAID, MAKE
CITIZENSHIP DAY OR WEEK
EXCITING.
WE BOUGHT INTO IT WITH THE
VIDEO.
NEXT YEAR, NORTH SHORE MOUNTAINS
IN VANCOUVER WITH NICKELBACK
OFFICIATING.
HOW IS THAT FOR CANADIAN?
THAT'S "THE NATIONAL" FOR
OCTOBER 9.
GOOD NIGHT.
>> Adrienne: GOOD NIGHT.
>> Rosemary: GOOD NIGHT.
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