So, what you've seen there, the first still, or the first film,
is how all other mammals in the world give birth.
There's no big deal about it.
And we have been looking for the last week for other ways in which mammals get born,
and for everybody but human beings, birth is easy.
I mean, really, it's easy!
There's no drama to it whatsoever.
And we wanted you to see that first...
And then you saw the baby. That's a human birth going on.
Every time I see that film, it breaks my heart.
It is horrible... It's horrible the way humans are born.
We speak, Carla and I, and the other folks who are working with us,
we speak of the fear of life as being the cause of human misery.
And we have spoken often of the birth trauma to be the cause of the fear of life.
The baby, when it is born, is hit by fear.
There's nothing that it has to understand at all, in its moments of being born...
It's fearfulness, horror, misery.
And that's what happens.
There are some ways of having human birth less miserable,
and there are people who do that, and understand,
and try to make it easier than it has been before,
but that is such a small slice of human beings being born,
and most of us, most everybody in the world is born in misery, and pain, and horror.
And that's the cause of everything.
not to the lucky few who don't get hit by that,
but the great many who are born in this misery and this heartbreak, this..
"Let me out of here!" is basically what seems to be they want.
That's most of us, really, that's pretty much...
You could pretty much say it's the human species as a whole.
I wanted us to see this and to talk about this
because when we get to the point, like Carla and I, and you folks...
When we get to the point where we have regained some of our understanding of life,
and our understanding of how to live a life in ease - not ease, but...
but well-being...
Those of us who have learned to do that are few and far between,
and the only thing that's ever going to help anybody in their long run
is when the scales tip and people who become sane start taking control over what's going on in the world.
Right now we don't have, so far as I can see we don't have anywhere
where [ sane ] people are in control of what's going on in the world.
So the only way that we can make that happen is to bring it to the world.
And there's so few of us, and [among] the very few of us that there are,
there are only a very scant few that have even thought about
doing something about it for the rest of the world, the rest of the human species.
But that's what we're about, that's what we want to see happen,
And because we have had the experience with you folks and many others now,
since we've had that experience and we can say with confidence
that what we're doing brings an end to the fear of life, which was given to us at birth,
it brings an end to the fear of life...
And if an end to the fear of life is the normal way in which human beings live,
we will find a way to not have babies, human babies ripped out of the womb.
So I want you guys to see that this is not like...
when I speak to you, and I speak to individual people, and so forth and so on,
I'm talking to them particularly.
But what I'm always really trying to talk to is to everybody
who has any chance whatsoever of being helpful in bringing this to the world.
Because that's all that's gonna work.
There's nothing else that people are doing,
no matter how well-intended they may be, no matter how intelligent they may be,
so far as we can tell, we are the only ones who have happened upon this.
And we give it away freely. It's not like we're hoarding it and trying to make it for us,
and make money on it. Certain to God, we're not making money on it...
We are here to see if we can find a way to bring this message to the world.
That's goal.
It's grandiose perhaps, but it's the only thing that makes sense
when we have found the cure for the birth trauma.
Because that's what we've found: a cure to the birth trauma.
- And all the consequences of it. - All the consequences of it.
Everything that a traumatic birth brings about, which is all our mental difficulties
of different levels, mild to really extreme.
- Yes. - Psychological problems.
Wars are fought because of the way human beings are born.
Really.
We can do this.
This is not something that is undoable.
It's not something where we're trying to get people to, I don't know,
give their life savings, or or go out to preach and so forth and so on...
Does anybody here have something to say about the necessity,
the necessity to get this broadly sent on the world?
Does anybody have a problem with that?
That there is something that we shouldn't be doing?
That we should be quiet, and have a little group of people to make them feel better,
or make me feel better?
Does anybody have a... And this is consistent with what I'm saying...
Does anybody there having any resistance to the idea that
once you are free yourself of the fear,
whatever you can do to bring it to the world you should do?
Anybody have a problem with that?
Well, apparently not. So then, what we really want to do with this webinar
is to hear from you and speak to you about what can be done in this matter.
You've seen the horror of human birth.
You've seen the ease of every other mammal's birth.
You've seen the misery of the human species all over the world,
and still, now again, getting worse and worse.
The misery is worse...
The belligerence is worse, the stupidity is worse, and nobody...
Nobody... Here's something that I see to be true, and especially when I see that baby...
Nobody is at fault for that. Nobody.
What's at fault is the misery of birth.
That's what's the fault which brings about these ideas about "I have to get mine."
"This is where the problem is. I got to get rid of that guy."
"I got to get rid of that idea. I got to get rid of this."
"I got to make this work and not that work."
The human birth...
Humans are... They're not ready to be born, really.
They're not ready to be born but they can't be born any any later
because it would rip open the mother.
Really, that's what it would do.
This is a difficult subject.
But it needs to be talked about.
It needs to be brought out in the open.
We have spent the last eight years, ten years, however long,
working to understand what we have seen.
We have been working with people in the forums,
we have been working with people anywhere where we could listen to them and talk to them,
and what that has brought us to is the certainty that this is the problem
and that we have the solution, and we are willing to give it away free.
We have a number of people, many of them who are forum members,
and a few forum members are here today, who have done the looking
and have gone on to work with self-directed attention,
and their reports, and the understandings that have come to them through those practices
are obviously true.
So I sent you a letter that what you said about when you look at that photo...
Your heart breaks. Your heart breaks and you recognize that it is the deepest
pain that you live with.
And...
That seems to me to be like you've hit on the core thing that you need to use
to reach out to people.
I've been living for a while now, meeting with lots of people that are that are like-minded
but have not done the looking,
and it's just so impossible to convince them that there is something different
from what they think I'm saying.
I've stopped saying. I sit with them and I know that I sit with them looking at myself,
and if I ever ask, someone will say, I think that's what I'm doing...
And I can't seem to get through that barrier, whereas
looking at this picture seemed to break me open to a place
where the core could be touched.
So I just wanted to confirm that the picture is a really good starting point.
It's a hell of a picture, isn't it? And it's true.
Naked and afraid.
And the interesting thing also, Helen, is that this is no new insight.
Two thousand years ago a guy was saying the same thing.
Human birth sucks and we got to do something about it.
And the entire 2,000 years since then, people I've been saying,
We got to do something about this because this sucks.
And it is linked to a lot of stupid stuff, and harmful stuff.
But this is not new. The insight into the stupidity of human birth is not new.
It's been around forever. Freud [ wrote about it ]...
And he didn't have anything to say that helped anybody anyway, so he didn't do that either.
The thing about this that I want you to notice is that it's easier than you might think.
Now, if you talk to somebody about Just One Look
and you talk to somebody about looking at themselves,
chances are, no matter what they say, they're going to do it.
And the thing that is really important to understand is that if they just look at themselves,
after a time - we've seen it around five years, ten years - after a time, they go sane.
It's just really the case.
So, the fact that you can't get them to engage with you on what you're saying,
you will, some will, and that'll happen.
But most of them won't. But they'll still be okay.
They almost certainly will look at themselves,
and in the end, they will be okay, after a while.
That's our experience. That's what we see from people.
So don't don't put too high a bar on what you're doing,
that they have to understand it, or they have to agree with it, or anything of the kind.
All they have to really do is hear it. Look at yourself.
It's not going to get them to self-directed attention soon, but it'll bring an end to the misery.
It'll bring an end to the fear.
And one of the things to keep in mind too is that it's easier to bring this look at me to people
when they come to you and they are not well or they are having difficulties,
or they ask you, Oh, you're different. What have you done?
But if they come to you and they are not good...
Well, there's something here that I did and it helped me.
You know, try with your attention to feel what it feels like to be you,
without any other words or explanation.
So then, people don't think it's a spiritual thing, for instance ,
if that's what happens around you, in your context.
And this is not a spiritual thing. It never never has been, never will be .
This is a human thing.
- Thanks. - Does that help?
Yes, very much.
So, keep up the good work and don't worry about it when they say,
Oh, that's nothing. I don't want to do it.
And they can go back.
And sometimes it's just easier to give them the link to the website,
or give them the ebook. It depends on the person, right, on the relationship.
Yeah.
But if they don't ask for something,
- I believe it's best not to push, right? - Sure.
Not to push but encourage them to look at themselves. That's not pushing.
I honestly believe that most people, if they're asked to look at themselves in this manner,
even if they say that it doesn't mean anything, that they'll do it.
It's not a big deal. We're not asking them to throw their baby out
or anything like that. We're asking them merely
to see what it feels like to be me.
That's all.
Okay. Really cool to talk to you.
And they will most likely ignore you, or say that's nothing.
Or, I heard that before...
You should count on that 99% of the people, their immediate reaction
will not be, Oh, yeah, of course, great!
But they will look.
It's almost... Why wouldn't they?
So your task is to just give it to them.
- Yeah, that's it. - And trust that it will develop.
And not be discouraged because they tell you these things.
Because that happens to everybody.
The fact that a person will have a reaction that's not what you would like
doesn't mean that they didn't hear it and that they didn't really look.
Even if they didn't quite look in the moment, it will come back to them and they may try it again later.
That's what we have seen.
We also know, or we have understanding
that in matters like this, where you have a huge base
that you want to bring something to, if you're doing it
as a word from friend to friend, or family, or things like that,
it's going to take a long time, as I've said, five to ten years,
but they will do it if you ask them to.
So that five or ten years down the road, they will be sane human beings
even if they don't know anything has changed, or what changed changed it for them.
We don't care if they know that this is our work.
We really don't care that much, except for the fact that it gets it out quicker.
And there's a place to come to for support, a community.
But our only aim is to get this sent out to the world. To get it to everybody.
It belongs to everybody. It doesn't belong to me; it doesn't belong to Carla.
I doesn't belong to anybody.
This is the birthright, actually, of human beings.
And there's other ways... If talking to a person you know you ends up being difficult
there's other ways...
If you have a local newspaper and they have free listings, or even very cheap,
I don't know, or not, I mean...
You can put a little ad: Just One Look. Put a little sentence and JustOneLook.org
Point people to the website.
Or if you have a community center where you live you could put a little card pointing people to it.
We put business cards with JustOneLook.org at supermarkets here.
Everywhere we go, I'm always handing out business cards or pinning them to boards
That's a quiet way to spread it.
People will be curious.
And in any case, people will come to know that as a thing.
That that is something.
Robert used to put sticky notes, Look at Yourself / justonelook.org sticky notes
on the subway in Sweden.
There was a time when he used to do that.
So, obviously my obstacle is that I...
Because I know what it took for me, it seems as though
they have to start doing it seriously.
And I just have to accept what John just said, which is just to suggest it.
But Helen, I think it's probably easier now to get right to the point,
because you started years ago and things were not as tight as they are now.
So just with the e-book there's enough to do what's needed.
Yes.
And so...
And for some it takes a while to realize the importance of a practice of self-directed attention,
and how that really makes 100 percent difference.
They take a little while, but then they start.
When things start getting a little difficult, they know that there's something to go to.
And the fundamental need is for them to look.
Everything else will arise in its time if they look.
It might take them a long time before it shows up, but it will change them, really.
And some of them will come and go to the forums,
and some of them will go off...
We have more than one person who has been with us for a long time but not having spoken to us for years,
from time to time we'll hear from a person like that.
Recently we heard form somebody and they're fine.
They don't know about self-directed attention, they don't know about any of that,
but they're fine. They're good with their own life.
And that's the bottom line.
If we could get enough people just okay with their own life,
- it would be a wonderful thing indeed. - It would make a big difference.
Yeah!
And it's certainly true that the more this is known in the world,
the more people who will come forward to do more
than just put sticky notes and so forth.
Those that can will, those that can't will do something else,
but we're on our way. We really are.
Carla and I are trying to understand for ourselves
how we move forward now.
What are we gonna do to move this thing forward.
We are thinking about, for example, going to churches and talking to the pastors
and see if we could talk to their congregation about what we're doing.
That's because there's already a group formed.
If they are open to listen to us...
If we can get a pastor to let us talk to his people,
those people will hear about it.
And also, the more people hear about this and do it,
over time, it will get easier for others to just do it without much resistance.
Once it gets to a level where it gets accepted by a certain percentage...
- Ten percent... - Ten percent of the community...
It just moves to another level.
We're still in the under 10%, as far as we know...
We are very limited, John and I, in what we can do really,
so we need help from anybody who can help us.
So, Helen, anything else?
No, that's wonderful. Thank you. Great to talk to you.
It's good to have you here. Good to hear your voice.
Thanks, Carla.
Carla wanted to speak.
Great! This has been really good. Thank you, Helen, so much,
because you articulated really the core of what I was trying to ask...
If I try to spread this, I get either no reaction or a negative one,
and I was kind of impatient to help,
because it seems, on the one hand, you're talking about the urgency of it,
which I can see as well, the need to get it out there,
and the fact that if I can't perceive a positive response, then I've failed...
So, that's good. I'll be patient now, and just let things unfold, I suppose...
So that was great. Helen really got to what I was concerned about.
- It doesn't matter... - Relax...
It really doesn't matter their response to what you say.
They have heard it and it's our experience that if they hear it,
sooner or later they're gonna say, What was that?
Let me try this...
That's fine. That's clear.
Because I feel like I'm in recovery and I'm just going to town,
but I still fall back in the old ways and all of that, so maybe it was just my failing
of not being completely recovered...
You're never gonna be completely recovered.
If you're waiting for you to recover, it's going to be a long time...
- We are all... - Yes, I see that.
We are all in recovery.
The biggest things go first, and then over time, little things appear every now and then...
But you have the tools, you know?
If gain control of your attention, you know what to do with that.
It doesn't affect you so much.
But that doesn't stop you from letting people know about it.
Say, I'm doing this, it's helping me a lot, you know? I'm sure it will help you...
I won't try to bug people because you just sort of...
It's like having your mother tell you 40 times to clean your room in one hour,
and just have this resistance you put on, so I've been trying to just kick back about it
but this is reassuring and it really clears it up for me.
So yeah, now I can relax.
And the opportunity will appear, when you will be in a situation where you're comfortable,
to just point it out - no need to tell them the whole thing
You can always tell them just to look at me.
And then you can tell them there is more on the website, it's free, there's the ebook, and all of that.
Or you can even give them a copy of the ebook if you have one,
But you will happen, you know?
Don't push yourself too hard to do that.
That's going to help them.
All we want them to do is to look at themselves.
That's all.
And if they're up to it, we'll give them other things to do.
That's great. That's terrific. Thank you.
Thank you, and Helen too, for getting it out.
So that's great. Thank you so much.
And it's good to be able to be awake and alert for one of these
at a time when I can participate. I love that.
Just hearing it, even if I don't say anything, it's one of these amazing days.
It's great, thanks. Bye, now.
- Thank you. - All right.
So we could maybe recap the importance of the birth in the whole thing?
Yes.
Human birth is horrifying.
It doesn't matter what's going on. As long as it's a human being coming out of a human womb,
it is misery, misery, misery.
And the child itself, having been hit by all of that,
their minds, their understanding of the world is seated on the sense that something is wrong.
Something is terribly wrong.
And that is the source of all human stupidity whatsoever.
That's the source of everything that goes wrong.
That misery that poor child undergoes in order to become a human being.
And we may not be able to do much about that,
but probably will have some...
- My 'we' I mean the human... - Humanity...
we'll have some way to mitigate that, or whatever...
But just to know that it's happening will make it much easier
for everybody who is involved in bringing birth to a human being
in a way that might mitigate some of the misery of it.
I talked to a gynecologist the other day, and we were talking about birth.
She delivers tons of babies.
And we were talking about that... She asked about just one look,
and we were talking about the birth trauma, and how horrible it is...
And she completely agreed. She said, Oh my God, yes, I have delivered so many babies,
and it's really, really...
Babies are born in a really horrible situation.
She understood that this work, first of all, would help the mother...
Certainly.
Because if you go into labor and you're not afraid,
you don't have that ground of the fear of life,
your whole relationship with it is different too, and that would help the baby.
But for now, what we have to do is help everybody who is already here, and already damaged.
Yes.
And if more and more of us get more sane and understand this whole thing,
then we'll be able to help future human beings not be so damaged.
And again, it's a huge task.
We human beings have known about this for 2,000 years or more.
And nothing has come of it. Nothing has come of it.
And the only thing that we can see ourselves is that this does the trick.
And it's not hard. It doesn't cost anything.
This does the trick.
And we will give everything we can give in our lives to bring this to the world.
And anybody who will help us with that, we will love them forever.
I just want to bring something up, and it's that
there's all attempts in every realm to help human beings
with our mental difficulties, and personality, all those things...
There's tons of things that have been developed in in all realms - psychology,
religions, spirituality, anthropology, I don't know, all fields of knowledge -
and they all do something, but they're basically palliatives.
The ones that work a little bit it is just to help you
deal with the mess a little less crazy.
But the difference is that this is not a palliative this really eliminates
the source, the root cause of the whole edifice of psychological craziness.
That's the difference.
It really goes to the core and it pulls the rug from under that.
And the whole building collapses.
That's what we call the recovery period.
All those old patterns of relationship, what people call conditioned behaviors, and things like that,
they all kind of lose their their food.
So this is why this... When we say this is the only thing that works,
it's because it's not like everything else. It's not a palliative.
It's not something to help you live your days a little less anxious.
It just cuts the root of anxiety, it cuts the root of depression,
cuts the root of addiction, PTSD, all sorts of mental problems.
It goes to the root and eliminates it, and that's why it's different.
And also because you can do it for yourself.
You don't need to go see a therapist every week,
or do whatever you're doing, you don't need to do that.
You get the tools, you do it for yourself, and there's a huge community all over the world
that gathers on our website, in these webinars, and open houses, and other venues,
and everybody is there to help one another.
To guide, to say, Oh yes, I go" through that too, you know?
Or wait... Or share their experiences, and that's really very helpful.
Can't stress that enough, how helpful the forum is to everybody.
The forum, yes...
Most people don't even post but they do read the conversations
and they say that the conversations have helped them,
the exchanges in the in the discussions forum.
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