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>> IT IS WEDNESDAY,
JANUARY 10TH.
THIS IS "THE NATIONAL."
>> ANDREW: PROTESTS OUTSIDE A
NUMBER OF TIM HORTONS LOCATIONS
IN ONTARIO TONIGHT.
DOES ORGANIZED LABOUR SEE AN
OPENING FOR NEW MEMBERSHIPS.
>> Ian: CONCORDIA UNIVERSITY
RESPONDS TO ALLEGATIONS ABOUT AN
UNSAFE SPACE FOR WOMEN.
>> ROSEMARY: WE BEGIN WITH THE
EXCLUSIVE
TELEVISION INTERVIEW, THE AUTHOR
OF A BOMBSHELL BEHIND THE SCENES
LOOK AT THE WHITE HOUSE AND ITS
CONTINUING FALLOUT.
>> PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP: YOU
CAN'T SAY THINGS THAT ARE FALSE,
KNOWINGLY FALSE.
AND BE ABLE TO SMILE AS MONEY
MOWERS -- POURS INTO YOUR BANK
ACCOUNT.
>> ROSEMARY: DONALD TRUMP,
TODAY, ON THE HEELS OF AN
EXPLOSIVE WHITE HOUSE TELL ALL
BOOK.
"FIRE AND FURY" THAT QUESTIONED
TRUMP'S MENTAL FITNESS TO SERVE
AS PRESIDENT.
MICHAEL WOLFF IS THE AUTHOR AT
THE CENTER
OF THE STORM AND IN TRUMP'S
CROSS HAIRS.
WE SAT DOWN THIS MORNING IN NEW
YORK AND TALKED ABOUT HOW HIS
INTENSELY CRITICAL BOOK SOURED
RELATIONS BETWEEN THE PRESIDENT
AND HIS FORMER CHIEF STRATEGIST
STEVE BANNON.
>> ROSEMARY: IS HE DANGEROUS?
>> INTERVIEW: I THINK HE CAN
BRING TRUMP DOWN.
YES.
>> Rosemary: STEVE BANNON HELPED
ELECT THE
PRESIDENT AND HELD ONE OF THE
MOST POWERFUL POSITIONS IN THE
WHITE HOUSE.
THE EXPLOSIVE COMMENTS TO
MICHAEL WOLFF IN THE BOOK,
SLAMMING THE PRESIDENT'S SON AND
SON-IN-LAW IGNITED FIRE AND FURY
FROM HIS FORMER BOSS.
>> PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP: THIS
IS SLOPPY STEVE BROUGHT HIM INTO
THE WHITE HOUSE QUITE A BIT.
THAT IS WHY
SLOPPY STEVE IS LOOKING FOR A
JOB.
>> ROSEMARY: BANNON APOLOGIZED
FOR THE REMARKS THAT DONALD
TRUMP JUNIOR MEETINGS WITH
RUSSIANS TO OBTAIN DAMAGING
MATERIAL ON HILLARY CLINTON WAS
TREASONOUS.
WERE YOU SURPRISED THAT BANNON
WALKED
BACK ON THINGS HE SAID TO YOU?
>> HE DID IT IN SUCH A -- I
THINK -- I MEAN IT WAS AN
INTERESTING WALK BACK.
IT WAS SO LIMITED.
AND I THINK THAT HE IS JUST
TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO
MANAGE THIS.
>> ROSEMARY: WELL, AND NOW HE
LEFT BREITBART.
I WONDERED WITH THE NEWS
YESTERDAY, HAS HE LOST THE
BATTLE?
>> INTERVIEW: YOU KNOW, I NEVER
SAY LOSE.
STEVE IS, I ALWAYS THOUGHT THE
TITLE CHIEF STRATEGIST WAS THE
PERFECT TITLE.
THAT IS WHAT HE IS.
HE STRATEGIZES.
I WOULD NOT COUNT HIM OUT.
>> ROSEMARY: THE BOOK SHINED A
SPOTLIGHT ON JUSTIN TRUDEAU'S
RELATIONSHIP WITH TRUMP.
ONE THAT IS IN MANY WAYS THE
ENVY OF THE WORLD.
MORE THAN ONE WORLD LEADER ASKED
FOR ADVICE ON HOW TO APPROACH
THE UNPREDICTABLE PRESIDENT.
TO THE POINT WHERE TRUDEAU IS
TOUTED AROUND THE WORLD AS THE
TRUMP'S WHISPERER.
HERE HE WAS LAST FEBRUARY PAYING
A VISIT TO THE WHITE HOUSE AND
MEETING TRUMP FOR THE FIRST
TIME.
>> YOU SAY HE BITES HIS TONGUE
IN THE BOOK,
AND THAT IS HOW THEY GET ALONG.
IS THERE A LESSON IN THAT?
>> INTERVIEW: I THINK THAT IS
THE INTERNATIONAL LESSON FOR ALL
FOREIGN LEADERS AND DIPLOMATS.
HE WANTS TO THE FLATTERED AND
WANTS TO BE
PRAISED.
HE WANTS WHAT HE WANTS.
IF YOU GIVE HIM WHAT HE WANTS,
HE WILL GIVE YOU WHAT YOU WANT.
IF IT DOESN'T COST HIM ANYTHING.
>> ROSEMARY: MORE ON THE
INTERVIEW WITH MICHAEL WOLFF
COMING UP LATER IN THE PROGRAM.
>>> LIBEL LAWS WERE PROBABLY NOT
THE ONLY ONES ON DONALD TRUMP'S
MIND.
A U.S. COURT TEMPORARILY BLOCKED
THE PLAN TO ROLL
BACK THE DEFERRED ACTION FOR
-- PROGRAM, KNOWN AS DACA.
IN A NOD TO THE SHIFTING AND
CONTRADICTLY OPINION, HE USED
TRUMP'S OWN TWEET TO JUSTIFY HIS
DECISION.
CHECK THIS OUT,
BACK IN SEPTEMBER, TRUMP
TWEETED...
QUITE RIGHT SAID THE JUDGE.
A FINE ARGUMENT WHY DACA SHOULD
STAY.
MADE BY THE POLITICIAN WHO IS
TRYING TO DISMANTLE IT.
THAT WAS SEPTEMBER 2017 TRUMP.
JANUARY 2018, AND TRUMP IS
OUTRAGED AT THE DECISION.
IT CAME IN THE MIDST OF TENSE
NEGOTIATIONS ABOUT THE FUTURE
ABOUT DAKA.
-- OF DACA.
PAUL HUNTER HAS MORE ON THAT.
>> DACA!
>> REPORTER: AT THE U.S. BORDER
TOWN IN TEXAS TODAY, THEY
MARCHED AND CHANTED.
AND ON CAPITOL HILL, THEY TOLD
THEIR STORIES.
NEW MEXICO, TEACHER OF THE YEAR.
INTERWHEN --
>> WHETHER DACA
EXPIRES, I WILL BE TAKEN AWAY
FROM MY STUDENTS.
THE THOUGHT BREAKS MY HEART.
>> REPORTER: A SOON TO BE
COLLEGE GRADUATE.
>> INTERVIEW: I FEEL NUMB TO
THIS -- TO WHAT IS HAPPENING
RIGHT NOW.
I NO LONGER FEEL LIKE I HAVE
CONTROL OF MY FUTURE.
>> REPORTER: LIKE HUNDREDS OF
THOUSANDS OF OTHERS IN THE
COUNTRY, FOREIGN BORN CHILDREN
OF ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS, THEY HAVE
BEEN PROTECTED FROM DEPORTATION
BY DACA, THE DEFERRED ACTION FOR
CHILDHOOD ARRIVAL PROGRAM.
CREATED BY BARAK OBAMA, IT IS
AIMED AT RECOGNIZING THAT AFTER
ALL THESE YEARS IN THE U.S.,
THEY ARE EFFECTIVELY AMERICAN.
AND SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO STAY.
DONALD TRUMP LAST YEAR, ENDED
THE PROGRAM.
TO BE PHASED OUT AS OF THIS
MARCH.
THREATENING ALL WITH
DEPORTATION.
A MOVE TEMPORARILY BLOCKED LAST
NIGHT BY A FEDERAL COURT IN
CALIFORNIA.
>> THE REAL QUESTION NOW TURNS
TO THE CONGRESS AND THE
PRESIDENT.
WILL THEY ACT?
IT IS TIME FOR CONGRESS TO GIVE
US A LASTING SOLUTION.
>> REPORTER: TRUMP WHO CALLED
THE COURT RULING UNFAIR HAS
SUGGESTED HE ALLOWED THE YOUNG
IMMIGRANTS TO STAY IF FOR
EXAMPLE, CONGRESS STRENGTHENS
BORDER SECURITY.
NOT LEAST BY BUILDING THAT
BORDER WALL.
SOMETHING DEMOCRATS HAVE LONG
CALLED A WASTE OF MONEY.
SAID TRUMP TODAY...
>> PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP: IT
HAS TO INCLUDE THE WALL.
WE NEED THE WALL TO SECURE.
WE NEED THE WALL FOR SAFETY.
WE NEED THE WALL FOR STOPPING
THE DRUGS FROM POURING IN.
>> REPORTER: THE CALIFORNIA
RULING, A REPRIEVE FOR NOW.
FOR SO MANY AS TRUMP AND
LAWMAKERS ON CAPITOL HILL DEBATE
WHETHER THEY WILL EVER TRULY BE
ALLOWED TO CALL THIS COUNTRY
HOME.
PAUL HUNTER, CBC NEWS,
WASHINGTON.
>> ROSEMARY: SO FOR THE HUNDREDS
OF THOUSANDS OF YOUNG MEN AND
WOMEN IN AMERICA TRAPPED IN THE
U.S. IMMIGRATION DEBATE, THIS
SEEMS LIKE A LESSON.
-- A LUCKY BREAK.
BUT TAKE ALI MORALEIS BROUGHT
WHEN SHE WAS 3.
HER MEMORIES ARE AMERICAN.
HER STATUS UNDOCUMENTED.
AND HER FEELINGS NOW...
WELL, LISTEN FOR YOURSELF.
>> INTERVIEW: WHEN I SAW THAT
THE JUDGE ORDERED THE TRUMP
ADMINISTRATION TO EXTEND THE
DABBING WITH A PROGRAM, I WAS
FRUSTRATED.
I FEEL LIKE IT COULD HAVE BEEN
DONE A LONG TIME AGO.
AND PEOPLE ARE ALREADY
SUFFERING.
THE DAMAGE DONE, WE NEED TO MOVE
ON FROM DACA AND PUT IN A
PERMANENT PATHWAY TO
CITIZENSHIP.
THERE IS A BIPARTISAN DREAM ACT
BILL THAT IS SUPPORTED ON BOTH
SIDES.
THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING
STOPPING THEM FROM PUTTING IT IN
PLACE.
IF WE WERE TO FOCUS ON THAT
RIGHT NOW, I FEEL THAT WOULD BE
A REASON TO BE HAPPY.
THE HAPPIER EVERYONE GETS AROUND
ME WITH THE CONTINUATION OF
DACA, THE MORE FRUSTRATED I GET,
BECAUSE MANY PEOPLE DON'T
REALIZE IS THAT NOW THERE IS NOT
AN URGENCY TO COME UP WITH A
SOLUTION FOR DACA RECIPIENTS.
THERE IS TIME.
THAT IS WHAT WE HAD ON OUR SIDE
WAS TO PUSH THEM TO COME UP WITH
SOMETHING REAL.
>> ROSEMARY: IN ATTACKING
TODAY'S RULING, TRUMP CALLED OUT
THE 9TH CIRCUIT COURT OF APPEAL
BY NAME.
IT SHOWS EVERYONE HOW BROKEN AND
UNFAIR OUR COURT SYSTEM IS WHEN
THE OPPOSING SIDE IN A CASE SUCH
AS DACA ALWAYS RUNS TO THE 9th
CIRCUIT AND ALMOST ALWAYS WINS
BEFORE BEING REVERSED BY HIGHER
COURTS.
SAID TRUMP.
WHAT IS THE 9TH?
OVER THE PAST YEAR FOR THE TRUMP
AGENDA, IT HAS BEEN SOMETHING OF
A NEMESIS.
>> PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP: A
JUDGE HAS JUST BLOCKED OUR
EXECUTIVE ORDER...
>> ROSEMARY: NOT JUST DACA,
MULTIPLE VERSION OF THE TRAVEL
BAN BY TRUMP TARGETING CERTAIN
MUSLIM COUNTRIES
HAVE BEEN BLOCKED BY THE 9TH.
>> PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP: PART
OF THE MUCH OVERTURNED 9TH
CIRCUIT COURT.
>> ROSEMARY: TRUMP MADE NO
SECRET OF WHAT HE THINKS OF IT.
>> PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP: I AM
NEVER SURPRISED BY THE 9TH
CIRCUIT.
>> ROSEMARY: NEXT THE U.S.
SUPREME COURT, THE 11TH CIRCUIT
COURT ARE THE COUNTRY'S MOST
POWERFUL.
AND OF THOSE, THE 9TH IS THE
BIGGEST WITH A HUGE CASE LOAD.
BASED IN SAN FRANCISCO, IT IS A
FAVOURITE TARGET OF
CONSERVATIVES.
ITS REPUTATION FOR BEING A LEFT
WING ACTIVIST COURT WAS CEMENTED
IN 2002.
WHEN IT RULED THAT THE WORDS ONE
NATION UNDER GOD IN THE PLEDGE
OF ALLEGIANCE VIOLATED THE
SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE.
THE CONSERVATIVE CALLS IT THE
9TH CIRCUIT, REPUBLICAN NEWT
GINGRICH CALLED FOR IT TO BE
PURGED.
>> THERE IS SOMETHING SICK ABOUT
OUR JUDICIARY.
>> ROSEMARY: THERE IS LITTLE
EVIDENCE THE 9TH IS PARTICULARLY
LIBERAL.
AND THOSE HOPING IT IS SOME KIND
OF ANTI-TRUMP RESISTANCE WILL BE
DISAPPOINTED.
ITS DECISIONS CAN BE OVERTURNED.
LIKE TRUMP'S TRAVEL BAN WHICH IS
BACK FOR NOW, COURTESY OF THE
U.S. SUPREME COURT, AND THOSE
CONSERVATIVE CONCERNS ABOUT THE
9TH BIAS MAY BE SEEN.
TRUMP HAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO FILL
7 VACANCIES, A QUARTER OF THE
COURT'S ROSTER.
>>> ANDREW, YOU ARE TRACKING THE
LATEST
DEVELOPMENT ON THE MUDSLIDES IN
SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA.
>> ANDREW: THAT'S RIGHT.
EVERY MINUTE THAT GOES BY HURTS
THE CHANCES OF FINDING PEOPLE
ALIVE.
THE NUMBER OF DEATHS HAS RISEN
TO 17 AND THE FEAR IS THAT
NUMBER COULD GO HIGHER STILL
WITH AT LEAST 20 PEOPLE STILL
MISSING.
HERE IS A MAN, WHO DOESN'T WANT
TO WAIT FOR AUTHORITIES TO FIND
HIM.
HE IS LOOKING FOR HIS
GIRLFRIEND'S TWO SISTERS, HOPING
FOR THE BEST, FEARING THE WORST.
LOOKING FOR ANY SIGN AT ALL.
>> INTERVIEW: YOU KEEP GOING.
>> WHAT DO YOU EXPECT TO FIND?
>> ANYTHING.
ANSWERS.
>> Andrew: THE TIDAL WAVES OF
MUD LEFT DEVASTATION IN THE LOS
ANGELES SUBURB.
NORTHWEST OF THE CITY AS WELL,
IN THE MOST AFFLUENT
NEIGHBOURHOODS IN THE ENTIRE
COUNTRY.
>> THIS USED TO BE A FENCE RIGHT
HERE.
>> EVEN THE BIGGEST CELEBRITIES
IN THE WORLD ARE CAUGHT UP IN
THE STORY.
OPRAH WINFREY POSTED THE VIDEOS
ONLINE OF THE DAMAGE AT HER
HOME.
ELLEN DEGENERES SHOWED THE
STREET IN FRONT OF HER HOUSE.
CALLING ON HER FANS TO SEND LOVE
TO MONTECITO.
AND A DAY AFTER UNSTOPPABLE
WALLS OF MUD AND DEBRIT ROARED
DOWNHILL, LEFT SCORCHED AND
WEAKENED BY DEADLY WILDFIRES, WE
ARE LEARNING MORE ABOUT THE
HEROISM AND HEARTACHE AND
MOMENTS OF THE LATEST NATURAL
DISASTER TO HIT THE REGION.
>> IT LOOKED LIKE A WORLD WAR I
BATTLEFIELD.
IT WAS LITERALLY A CARPET OF MUD
AND DEBR -- DEBRIT.
>> INTERVIEW: FIRST WE WERE
BURNED OUT IN THE RANCH.
>> ANDREW: THE VIDEO OF THE
COAST GUARD HELICOPTER CREW
WINCHING A WOMAN AND THE NEWBORN
BABY FROM THE ROOF OF A HOUSE
THAT WAS BURIED UNDER THE MUD.
THREE OTHER MEMBERS OF THE SAME
FAMILY AND THEIR DOG WERE
RESCUED ALSO.
WE STILL DO NOT KNOW WHAT THE
DAMAGE IS GOING TO COST TO FIX.
BUT WHETHER FROM THE GROUND OR
THE AIR, THE SCOPE OF THE
TRAGEDY IS CLEAR.
THE AUTHORITIES SAID AT LEAST
400 HOMES HAVE BEEN DESTROYED OR
DAMAGED.
>> INTERVIEW: YOU HEAR SNAPPING,
AND GLASS, AND THINGS ROLLING
AND YOU LOOK OUT THE WINDOW, AND
SUDDENLY TREES ARE ROLLING UP
THE DRIVEWAY.
AND YOU JUST RUN.
YOU GRAB THE FAMILY.
>> ANDREW: TONIGHT, THE NATIONAL
GUARD HAS JOINED THE RESCUE
OPERATION, GOING HOUSE-TO-HOUSE
AND FAMILIES TOO LOOKING FOR
LOVED ONES ARE CONDUCTING THEIR
OWN SEARCHES.
REFUSING TO GIVE UP HOPE.
>> THIS IS A PHOTO.
IF ANYONE HAS SEEN HER,
SHE IS MISSING.
>> Andrew: THERE IS SOME
REPRIEVE.
SUN IS IN THE FORECAST FOR THE
END OF THE WEEK.
>>> IT IS A TIME TIME FOR A
WINNIPEG FAMILY TONIGHT.
AN ELDERLY COUPLE FROM WINNIPEG
WAS FOUND DEAD IN JAMAICA.
AND POLICE ARE NOW
INVESTIGATING.
81-YEAR-OLD MELBOURNE FLAKE AND
ETTA FLAKE WERE APPARENTLY
ATTACKED IN THEIR HOME AT A
RETIREMENT RESIDENCE IN RETREAT.
EAST OF JAMAICA'S CAPITAL.
CBC REACHED THE FLAKE'S DAUGHTER
BY PHONE.
>> I DON'T BELIEVE IT IS
TRULY SUNK IN.
I DON'T BELIEVE I HAVE TRULY
ACCEPTED IT AS REAL.
WHEN I HAD SEVERAL PEOPLE
STARTING TO CALL ME AND THEN
ANOTHER PERSON FROM JAMAICA
CALLED ME AND SAID, I'M SORRY,
DEBBIE, I AM LIKE, OKAY, THIS IS
NOT A FANTASY.
THIS IS REAL.
>> ANDREW: ACCORDING TO LOCAL
MEDIA, CITING POLICE, BEFORE THE
FLAKES, THERE WERE 38 HOMICIDES
IN JAMAICA SO FAR IN 2018.
WE ARE 10 DAYS IN.
OVER THE COURSE OF 2017, THERE
WERE 1600 KILLINGS, ONE OF THE
HIGHEST ANNUAL HOMICIDE RATES ON
RECORD.
THAT IS A STAGGERING FIGURE.
WITH INTERPOL AND JAMAICA
AUTHORITIES INVESTIGATING, WE
WILL CONTINUE TO TRACK THE
STORY.
>> IAN: HERE IN TORONTO, DOZENS
OF PEOPLE GATHERED OUTSIDE
SOULPEPPER THEATRE TO SEND A
CLEAR MESSAGE TO THE COMPANY
TONIGHT.
>> WE ARE OCCUPYING THE SPACE AS
A THEATRE COMMUNITY.
IN THE SENSE THAT WE ARE
STANDING BY OUR COLLEAGUES.
AND WE WANT THEM TO BE TREATED
WITH DIGNITY.
AND HUMANITY, AND RESPECT.
>> IAN: MANY OF THOSE WHO TOOK
PART IN THE DEMONSTRATION ARE IN
THE THEATRE COMMUNITY.
THEY SAID THEY WANTED TO SHOW
SUPPORT FOR THE FOUR WOMEN WHO
CAME FORWARD LAST WEEK WITH
ALLEGATIONS OF SEXUAL MISCONDUCT
AGAINST THE COMPANY'S FORMER
ARTISTIC
DIRECTOR ALBERT SCHULTZ.
HE RESIGNED, HE PLANS TO
VIGOROUSLY DEFEND HIMSELF IN
COURT HE SAID.
>>> MEANWHILE, CONCORDIA
UNIVERSITY ANNOUNCING IT IS
LAUNCHING AN INVESTIGATION AFTER
A FORMER STUDENT ALLEGED SEXUAL
MISCONDUCT IN THE CREATIVE
WRITING PROGRAM.
MIKE SPRY SPOKE ABOUT HIS
CONCERNS ON
CAMERA FOR THE FIRST TIME TODAY.
AND JAELA BERNSTEIN HAS THE
EXCLUSIVE DETAILS.
>> REPORTER: FOR YEARS, MIKE
SPRY WITNESSED WHAT HE SAID WAS
A TOXIC AND
PREDATORY ENVIRONMENT AT
CONCORDIA, UNIVERSITY.
HE DID NOTHING.
>> INTERVIEW: I AM A COWARD.
I THINK I WAS SUSCEPTIBLE TO THE
POWER STRUCTURE THAT MANIPULATED
THESE YOUNG WOMEN.
>> REPORTER: THIS WEEK HE WENT
PUBLIC IN A BLOG DESCRIBING AN
ENGLISH DEPARTMENT WITH
INAPPROPRIATE RELATIONSHIPS
BETWEEN MALE PROFESSORS AND
THEIR YOUNGER FEMALE STUDENTS.
HE SAID IF HE KEPT QUIET LONGER,
HE WOULD BE A MONSTER.
TODAY, HE DESCRIBED SOME OF WHAT
HE SAW TO CBC NEWS.
>> Interview: ANY KIND OF BOOK
LAUNCH OR READING WAS
A BIG EVENT, IT WAS FUELLED BY
ALCOHOL.
AND IT WAS NOT UNCOMMON FOR
OLDER MALE PROFESSORS TO DRINK A
LOT.
AND THEN OPENLY ATTEMPT TO KISS
OR GROPE FEMALE STUDENTS.
>> REPORTER: SPRY SAID HE IS
READY TO NAME NAMES.
CBC NEWS IS STILL WORKING TO
CORROBORATE THE ALLEGATIONS.
CONCORDIA IS LAUNCHING AN
INVESTIGATION.
THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNIVERSITY
WOULD NOT CONFIRM WHETHER ANY
PROFESSORS HAVE BEEN SUSPENDED.
BUT HE SAID, THEY TAKE THE
ALLEGATIONS SERIOUSLY.
>> I WANTED TO START TO SAY
-- BY SAYING PROFOUNDLY
SORRY THAT SOME OF OUR ALUMNI
AND STUDENTS EXPERIENCED WHAT
HAVE BEEN REPORTED.
>> REPORTER: OTHER WOMEN TOLD
CBC THEY SPOKE OUT ABOUT SEXUAL
MISCONDUCT AT CONCORDIA FOR
YEARS.
NO ACTION WAS TAKEN.
SHEPHERD SAID THIS IS THE FIRST
HE HEARD OF IT.
>> I HAVE BEEN READING IT IS AN
OPEN SECRET.
IT WAS NOT AN OPEN SECRET TO ME.
I DID MY BEST TO PAY ATTENTION
TO THESE RUMOURS BECAUSE THEY
ARE IMPORTANT.
I WASN'T AWARE.
IF I HAD BEEN AWARE, I WOULD
HAVE ACTED SOONER.
>> REPORTER: SPRY HAS A
DIFFERENT TAKE.
>> IT WAS THE WATER COOLER
CONVERSATION ON THAT FLOOR.
AND PEOPLE WOULD NOT MAKE FUN OF
IT.
THEY OPENLY TALKED ABOUT IT.
AS IF IT WAS THE WEATHER.
>> REPORTER: CONCORDIA
UNIVERSITY SAID IN ADDITION TO
THE INVESTIGATION, IT IS MEETING
WITH MEMBERS OF ITS CREATIVE
WRITING PROGRAM AND ALSO
LAUNCHING AN ASSESSMENT OF THE
ENVIRONMENT HERE ON CAMPUS.
THE PRESIDENT SAID HE WANTS
STUDENTS TO FEEL SAFE.
CBC NEWS, MONTREAL.
>> IAN: AND MOVING ON TO AN
UPDATE TONIGHT ABOUT A TORONTO
WOMAN YOU MAY REMEMBER, SHE WAS
RESCUED FROM A CONSTRUCTION
CRANE AFTER GETTING STRANDED
THERE LAST SPRING.
SHE WAS ARRESTED AND CHARGED.
AND WE LEARNED TODAY SHE WAS
GRANTED AN ABSOLUTE DISCHARGE.
MARISA LAZO PLEADED GUILTY TO
TWO COUNTS OF
MISCHIEF.
LATE LAST MONTH.
SHE WILL NOT HAVE A CRIMINAL
RECORD.
BY WAY OF EXPLANATION,
SHE SAID SHE SCALED THE CRANE TO
SEE THE VIEW, TO TAKE PICTURES.
LAZO THOUGHT IT WOULD BE
EXCITING AND MAKE HER FEEL MORE
ALIVE.
>>> THAT STUNT GOT SO MUCH
PUBLIC AND MEDIA ATTENTION.
HER COURT APPEARANCE, IT
HAPPENED VERY QUIETLY IN LATE
DECEMBER.
>> ANDREW: RIGHT.
SOMETHING TO TALK ABOUT FOR
SURE.
>>> AHEAD, ON "THE NATIONAL",
PROTESTS ACROSS ONTARIO IN
SUPPORT OF TIM HORTONS WORKERS.
WHO IS ORGANIZING THEM?
AND WHY?
>> IAN: NOT A GREAT DAY FOR
CANADA, U.S. RELATIONS, THE
TRADE TENSIONS ON BOTH SIDES OF
THE BORDER WE WILL BREAK DOWN.
>> ROSEMARY: AND HE WROTE THE
BOOK THAT SHOOK THE WHITE HOUSE.
I SIT DOWN WITH MICHAEL WOLFF IN
THE FIRST CANADIAN TELEVISION
INTERVIEW.
>> THE PEOPLE COMMENTED ABOUT
THE PRESIDENCY BEFORE, IT
MAGNIFIES WHO YOU ARE IN EXTREME
WAYS.
AND I THINK THAT IS WHAT HAS
HAPPENED HERE.
>> THOSE OF YOU WATCHING ON
FACEBOOK, ON TWITTER, ALL THE
DIFFERENT WAYS WHICH MEANS THAT
WE HAVE TIME.
I THINK A FEW MINUTES WHERE I
CAN ANSWER SOME OF YOUR
QUESTIONS.
IF YOU ARE ON THERE AND YOU HAVE
A KEYBOARD, YOUR FINGERS ARE
EAGER TO ASK QUESTIONS, I AM
HERE FOR THIS COMMERCIAL BREAK
AND THE NEXT ONE AS WELL.
QUESTIONS ABOUT THE SHOW, THE
PROGRAM, THE EXPERIENCE OF
WORKING HERE, ABOUT ME, WHAT
EVER YOU WANT.
I AM HAPPY TO TAKE THE
QUESTIONS.
LAST TIME I DID THIS, THERE WERE
QUESTIONS I WASN'T ABLE TO GET
TO.
I FELT REALLY, REALLY BAD ABOUT
THAT.
I HAVE THEM HERE.
THIS IS FROM VICTOR, WHAT WAS
YOUR FAVOURITE REPORTER
ASSIGNMENT THUS FAR?
YOU KNOW, OVER THE YEARS, I
GUESS, I HAVE DONE A LOT OF
DIFFERENT THINGS.
MOST RECENTLY, I GUESS I DID A
TRIP TO P.E.I. WHERE WE DID A
COOL STORY ABOUT HOW FEEDING
COWS SEAWEED REDUCED METHANE
EMISSIONS AND GETTING TO GO OUT
EAST IS SOMETHING I DON'T GET TO
DO SO OFTEN.
IT WAS A COOL PART OF THE
COUNTRY.
OLYMPICS, ANOTHER REALLY, REALLY
COOL THING.
HAVING MICHAEL PHELPS WALK BY ME
FEET AWAY AND TELL ME NO TO AN
INTERVIEW.
THAT WAS THRILLING.
KAREN LEE HAS A QUESTION, WHAT
DO YOU LIKE MOST ABOUT EACH OF
YOUR CO-HOSTS?
THAT IS A QUESTION THAT IS
CLEARLY DESIGNED TO GET ME IN
TROUBLE.
YOU MAY AS WELL ASK ME WHAT I
DISLIKE ABOUT THE CO-HOSTS.
YOU KNOW, ROSEY IS HILARIOUS.
A FUNNY PERSON.
CLEVER.
ADRIENNE IS LIKE THE WARMEST
PERSON ON THE PLANET.
SO NICE.
SO RESOURCEFUL.
SO IMPRESSIVE.
IAN IS
>> THE CRIMINAL TRIAL OVER THE
LAC-MEGANTIC RAIL DISASTER IS
NEARING THE END.
TOMORROW, A 12 PERSON JURY WILL
BEGIN DELIBERATIONS ON WHETHER
THREE FORMER RAILWAY EMPLOYEES
ARE GUILTY OF CRIMINAL
NEGLIGENCE.
WHEN THE TRAIN DERAILED, THE
RESULTING FIRE AND EXPLOSION
DESTROYED THE TOWN'S CENTER.
DOZENS OF BUILDINGS FLATTENED.
IT KILLED 37 PEOPLE.
-- 47 PEOPLE.
ALL ACCUSED PLEADED NOT GUILTY.
>> IT IS EXTREMELY
DISAPPOINTING.
IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE STRESS.
IT IS THE LAW.
THERE SHOULD BE NO SECRET TO
ANYONE OF THE REQUIREMENT YOU
NEED.
>> ANDREW: INVESTIGATORS CONFIRM
THERE WERE NO WORKING SMOKE
ALARMS IN AN OSHAWA HOUSE THAT
CAUGHT FIRE ON MONDAY.
FOUR PEOPLE WERE KILLED IN THAT
FIRE.
INCLUDING A WOMAN AND HER TWO
YOUNG CHILDREN.
INVESTIGATORS SAID THE FIRE
STARTED IN THE KITCHEN, ON THE
MAIN FLOOR AND THINK IF THE
HOUSE HAD WORKING ALARMS, THE
VICTIMS MAY HAVE BEEN ABLE TO
ESCAPE IN TIME.
>> ROSEMARY: AFTER THE PRIME
MINISTER CALLED THE U.S. AN
UNRULY NEIGHBOUR, AT HIS FIRST
TOWN HALL EVENT LAST NIGHT,
TODAY, JUSTIN TRUDEAU WAS
STRESSING HOW MUCH CANADA'S
ECONOMIC SUCCESS RELIES ON THE
STRONG BOND WITH OUR LARGEST
TRADING PARTNER.
>> PRIME MINISTER JUSTIN
TRUDEAU: IT IS REALLY IMPORTANT
THAT WE KEEP A CONSTRUCTIVE
WORKING RELATIONSHIP WITH THE
UNITED STATES.
REGARDLESS OF WHO IS IN CHARGE
DOWN THERE.
>> ROSEMARY: IN FRONT OF AN
AUDIENCE AT HAMILTON MCMASTER
UNIVERSITY, TRUDEAU REITERATED
HIS STRATEGY, IN DEALING WITH
PRESIDENT TRUMP.
THAT IS TO STAY FOCUSSED ON
CANADA'S INTERESTS.
TRUDEAU MADE THE COMMENTS,
THOUGH, ON THE DAY THAT TRADE
TENSIONS HAVE RAMPED UP IN A BIG
WAY.
ON BOTH SIDES OF THE BORDER.
KATIE SIMPSON IS HERE TO TELL US
ABOUT THE LATEST ROUND OF TRADE
DRAMA.
WHAT LED TO THIS?
BRING US UP TO SPEED.
>> REPORTER: IT IS NOT A GOOD
DAY FOR CANADA, U.S. RELATIONS.
CANADA LODGED A SCATHING
COMPLAINT TO THE WORLD TRADE
ORGANIZATION SAYING THE
AMERICANS DO NOT FOLLOW SOME OF
THE RULES WHEN IT COMES TO
TRADE.
CANADIAN OFFICIALS CAME UP WITH
A LIST OF
200 EXAMPLES OF WRONGDOING BY
THE AMERICANS AND PRESENTED IT
TO THE WTO.
THIS IS AN ACT OF RETALIATION
BY CANADA
OVER DUTIES THE AMERICANS PUT ON
SOFT WOOD LUMBER.
AND THE AMERICANS, THEY ARE NOT
HAPPY.
THE U.S. TRADE REPRESENTATIVE
ROBERT LIGHTHIZER SAID TODAY
THIS IS A BROAD AND ILL-ADVISED
ATTACK ON THE U.S. TRADE
REMEDIES SYSTEM.
ADDING CANADA'S CLAIMS ARE
UNFOUNDED AND COULD ONLY LOWER
U.S. CONFIDENCE THAT CANADA IS
COMMITTED TO MUTUALLY BENEFICIAL
TRADE.
IN RESPONSE TO THIS, THERE WERE
NEW DUTIES ANNOUNCED TO PUT ON
CANADIAN NEWSPRINT.
A MOVE
THAT UPSET CANADA MORE.
>> ROSEMARY: THIS MAYBE WOULDN'T
BE A BIG DEAL ON ANY OTHER TIME.
IT COMES DURING INTENSE NAFTA
NEGOTIATIONS YOU HAVE BEEN
COVERING.
WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THE
POSSIBLE CONSEQUENCES FOR THAT?
>> REPORTER: THE TIME OF YEAR IS
CURIOUS.
AS YOU MENTIONED,
CANADA, U.S. AND MEXICO, THEY
ARE IN THE MIDDLE OF VERY
DIFFICULT NAFTA TALKS.
AND TODAY, WE ACTUALLY GOT A
GLIMPSE OF WHAT THE IMMEDIATE
REACTION WOULD BE IF DONALD
TRUMP MAKES GOOD ON THE THREAT.
TO WITHDRAW FROM THE PACT.
THERE WERE REPORTS TRUMP WAS
GOING TO IMMINENTLY PULL THE
U.S. OUT OF NAFTA.
AND SHORTLY AFTER, THE LOONIE
TOOK A HIT.
WE HAVE A CHART AND CAN SHOW YOU
THIS.
YOU CAN SEE IT CLEAR AS DAY.
THAT SHORTLY AFTER THIS TOOK
PLACE, THE CANADIAN LOONIE, YOU
CAN SEE THERE IS THE DIP THERE,
THE PESO AND NAFTA RELATED TALKS
TOOK A HIT.
CANADIAN OFFICIALS HAVE PUBLICLY
AND REPEATEDLY SAID THEY ARE
READY FOR ANYTHING.
AT ANY TIME WHEN IT COMES TO
TRUMP AND NAFTA.
BEHIND THE SCENES, TRADE
OFFICIALS ARE DOING A SECTOR BY
SECTOR EXAMINATION OF INDUSTRIES
THAT WOULD BE HURT IF THE U.S.
PULLS OUT AND ARE PREPARING FOR
ANY REALITY ANY POINT IN THE
NEAR OR DISTANT FUTURE.
>> ROSEMARY: THE ONLY WAY TO
DEAL WITH THE PRESIDENT AS IT
TURNS OUT.
THANK YOU.
>>> AN ISSUE CAME OUT AT THE
PRIME MINISTER'S HAMILTON TOWN
HALL TONIGHT.
ONE THAT LED TO FIREWORKS.
CHECK OUT THE EXCHANGE WITH A
WOMAN UPSET ABOUT SECURITY AND
THE OMAR KHADR SETTLEMENT.
>> MR. TRUDEAU...
YOU LOVE IT...
>> PRIME MINISTER JUSTIN
TRUDEAU: ARE YOU DONE?
>> I AM DONE.
>> ROSEMARY: OKAY, NOT ALL
CANADIANS WOULD AGREE WITH THAT
APPROACH.
A GOOD NUMBER SHARE HER
CONCERNS.
EVEN SO, TRUDEAU'S RESPONSE WENT
ON TO WIN THE CROWD.
>> PRIME MINISTER JUSTIN
TRUDEAU: THE ANGER THAT SOME
PEOPLE FEEL AND AT A LOT OF
PEOPLE FEEL ABOUT THE PAYMENT
THE GOVERNMENT MADE TO OMAR
KHADR IS REAL.
QUITE FRANKLY, THIS MAY SURPRISE
YOU, BUT
I SHARE THE ANGER AND
FRUSTRATION.
>> REPORTER: HE SAID REMINDING
CANADIANS THAT THE SETTLEMENT
WAS NOT REALLY ABOUT WHAT HE DID
OR DID NOT DO ON THE
BATTLEFIELD,
IT WAS ABOUT THE GOVERNMENT
FAILING TO PROTECT HIS CHARTER
RIGHTS WHICH HE CALLED
UNCANADIAN.
THIS IS NOT THE FIRST TIME
SOMEONE WENT AT TRUDEAU AT A
TOWN HALL.
A QUICK LOOK BACK SHOWS THE
BENEFIT DESPITE THE RISK.
>> HELLO JUSTIN.
>> HELLO.
>> ROSEMARY: A COCKY OPENING
LIKE THAT, YOU KNEW THE QUESTION
FROM THE TOWN HALL IN LONDON,
ONTARIO LAST JANUARY WOULD BE
LOADED.
>> JUSTIN, WHAT ARE YOU DOING TO
THIS COUNTRY?
YOU ARE INTENTIONALLY SETTING UP
MILLIONS OF YOUNG CANADIANS LIKE
MYSELF FOR COMPLETE AND UTTER
FAILURE.
AND WHAT, AND FOR WHAT, TO
PANDER TO YOUR MORAL SUPERIORITY
COMPLEX.
STOP WHAT YOU ARE DOING RIGHT
NOW.
>> PRIME MINISTER JUSTIN
TRUDEAU: PLEASE, PLEASE...
EVERYONE, THIS IS AN OPEN TOWN
HALL.
IF YOU NEEDED PROOF.
>> ROSEMARY: TRUDEAU OUTLINED
THE GOVERNMENT'S ECONOMIC
OBJECTIVES, EARNING APPLAUSE
FROM THE CROWD.
THAT SAME WEEK, IN PETERBOROUGH,
HE TOOK A TOUGH QUESTION OVER AN
ISSUE THAT HAS MANY CANADIANS
VERY UPSET, THE RISING COST OF
POWER.
>> I MAKE ALMOST $50,000 A YEAR,
MR. TRUDEAU, AND I LIVE IN
ENERGY
POVERTY.
PLEASE TELL ME HOW WILL YOU FIX
THAT FOR ME AND ALL OF US IN
RURAL ONTARIO.
>> ROSEMARY: NO QUICK COME BACK.
HE WADED INTO THE WATERS AS BEST
HE COULD.
IT WAS NOT SMOOTH SAILING AND
LATER THAT WEEK IN CALGARY, HE
GOT A ROUGH RIDE OVER ALBERTA'S
ENERGY SECTOR.
HE STOOD HIS GROUND.
>> WHEN ARE YOU GOING -- ABOUT
THE OILSANDS.
>> PRESIDENT TRUMP BLASTED WOLFF
CLAIMING HE IS MENTALLY UNFIT
FOR OFFICE.
WOLFF IS NOT BACKING DOWN.
>> INTERVIEW: HE IS ABSOLUTELY
IN NO WAY, SHAPE OR FORM, A
FICTIONALIZED VERSION.
THIS IS ABSOLUTELY TRUE.
I MEAN THIS IS ABSOLUTELY
I DON'T HAVE A GOOD IDEA.
I THINK IT IS A JOKE.
I MENTIONED ON TWITTER ABOUT NOT
KNOWING HOW TO WEAR IT.
WHAT IS YOUR MOST MEMORABLE
REPORT.
I ANSWERED THAT IN THE LAST
BREAK.
MARK, WHAT ARE YOUR HOBBIES?
THE BIGGEST ONE, MY KIDS.
NOT A HOBBY.
THAT IS WHERE I SPEND MY TIME
WHEN I AM NOT WORKING.
HOBBIES, LIKE VIDEO GAMING.
I AM A HUGE GAMER.
I HAVE BEEN A GAMER ALL MY LIFE.
A HUGE GAMER.
DON PITTMAN, WHAT WAS YOUR FIRST
MEDIA JOB?
FUNNY, AT CBC IN MONTREAL.
I WAS AN ELECTIONS BLOGGER.
IT WAS THE MOST BORING JOB ON
THE PLANET.
HEARING ME EXPLAIN IT WILL BORE
YOU, DURING THE FEDERAL
ELECTION, IT WAS IN 2004, MY JOB
WAS TO LISTEN TO AND WATCH ALL
OF THE COVERAGE THAT WE PRODUCED
OUT OF CBC MONTREAL.
THAT WAS ELECTION RELATED.
WHETHER IT IS JUST LIKE A CLIP
OF A LEADER THAT WE RAN OR A
FULL REPORTER PIECE, I WOULD
HAVE TO WATCH AND LISTEN TO IT
ALL WITH A STOPWATCH AND HAVE TO
TIME IT AND SAY, OKAY, SO IN
THIS PIECE, WE DID 42 SECONDS ON
HEALTH CARE.
OR UNEMPLOYMENT OR WHAT HAVE
YOU.
AND I WOULD HAVE TO BREAK IT
DOWN ISSUE BY ISSUE BY ISSUE.
AND THEN, I WOULD HAVE TO LISTEN
TO IT AGAIN AND SAY, WE DID 12
SECONDS WHERE WE HEARD GILLES
DUCEPPE.
AND 16 SECONDS WHERE WE -- SO ON
AND SO FORTH TO ENSURE THAT WE
WERE NOT OVER COVERING OR UNDER
COVERING ANY PARTICULAR PARTY OR
ANY LEADER.
PAINSTAKING WORK TO DO THAT.
MY EAR PIECE IS POPPING OUT IN
CASE YOU WONDER WHY I FIDGET
WITH MY EAR.
THAT WAS MY FIRST JOB AND I
PARLAYED THAT INTO A RESEARCH
JOB AND WORKED IN REPORTING FOR
A WHILE AND VIDEO JOURNALISM.
I WENT ON TO HOSTING, ANCHORING
WHICH IS WHAT I DO NOW.
JAMES SAID WILL YOU CONSIDER A
CAREER IN POLITICS?
NO.
NO.
ASKS, WHAT SCHOOL DID YOU GO?
I WENT TO HIGH SCHOOL IN OTTAWA.
A GREAT SCHOOL.
UNIVERSITY AT CARLETON
UNIVERSITY.
THAT IS WHERE I DID MY UNDER
GRADUATE DEGREE, BACHELOR IN
JOURNALISM AND A DOUBLE MINOR IN
POLITICAL SCIENCE AND
PHILOSOPHY.
TWO THINGS THAT I AM VERY
INTERESTED IN.
NOT AS A CAREER.
THAT IS FOR SURE.
PHILOSOPHER, THAT WOULD BE FUN
TO BE A PHILOSOPHER.
THAT WOULD BE FUN.
CHRIS NOEL, WHAT IS THE BEST
PART OF YOUR JOB?
MEETING PEOPLE.
I AM A SHY PERSON.
I AM INTROVERTED, IT TAKES A LOT
OF ENERGY TO DO THIS.
AND BE OUT THERE.
BUT MEETING PEOPLE WHO HAVE
DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVES ON LIFE.
AND DIFFERENT STORIES TO TELL.
AND SEE THINGS DIFFERENTLY.
THAT IS BY FAR THE MOST
FASCINATING PART OF MY JOB.
JACK, PROVINCES YOU WANT TO
VISIT AND WHY.
EAST COAST.
I GREW UP IN ONTARIO.
I LIVE IN B.C. I WANT TO SPEND
TIME IN EASTERN CANADA.
IT IS
>> THE BOMBSHELL BOOK IS ROCKING
THE WHITE HOUSE.
>> THEY ALL SAY, HE IS LIKE A
CHILD.
IT IS ALL ABOUT HIM.
>> EVERYTHING IN THE BOOK,
NOTHING IS MADE UP?
>> ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING IN THE
BOOK.
>> STEVE BANNON TURNING ON THE
PRESIDENT AND HIS FAMILY.
>> WHAT DO YOU SAY TO MICHAEL
WOLFF.
>> THE WHITE HOUSE PUSHED BACK
HARD.
CALLING IT FICTION.
>> ABSOLUTELY OUTRAGEOUS TO MAKE
THESE TYPES OF
ACCUSATIONS.
>> THE AUTHOR IS A GARBAGE
AUTHOR OF A GARBAGE BOOK.
>> IF I LEFT OUT ANYTHING, IT
WAS STUFF THAT WAS
EVEN MORE DAMMING.
IT IS THAT BAD.
>> ROSEMARY: "FIRE AND FURY"
IT
TURNS INTO A POLITICAL
FIRESTORM, THE AUTHOR MICHAEL
WOLFF IS STANDING BY THE
CONTROVERSIAL BOOK ABOUT
PRESIDENT TRUMP.
AND THE INSIDE OPERATIONS OF HIS
WHITE OUTSIDE.
-- WHITE HOUSE.
THIS MORNING, HE SAT DOWN WITH
ME IN NEW YORK, FOR AN EXCLUSIVE
CANADIAN TELEVISION INTERVIEW.
LET'S START WITH WHY A PRESIDENT
AND AN OVAL OFFICE WOULD GIVE
YOU THIS SORT OF ACCESS.
BECAUSE THAT IS
WHAT WENT THROUGH MY MIND.
>> INTERVIEW: I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY
IT WENT THROUGH MY MIND.
SO THE ANSWER IS, ACTUALLY, I
DON'T KNOW.
I THINK IT IS PART OF THE UTTER
DISORGANIZATION OF THIS WHITE
HOUSE.
THE FACT THAT THERE WAS NO PLAN.
I MEAN IT LITERALLY IF SOMEONE
SAID TO YOU, YOU ARE THE
PRESIDENT OF
THE UNITED STATES, WHAT DO YOU
DO NOW.
THEY HAVE NO MORE BACKGROUND IN
THIS THAN YOU OR I WOULD HAVE.
>> Rosemary: YOU SAT THERE FOR A
YEAR.
>> SLIGHTLY LESS.
AFTER THE INAUGURATION UNTIL
BANNON WAS PUSHED OUT OF THE
WHITE HOUSE IN THE END OF
AUGUST.
AND THEN I WENT BACK SEVERAL
MORE TIMES.
AT THE END OF AUGUST, I BEGAN TO
WRITE THIS BOOK.
>> ROSEMARY: IT IS NOT -- YOU
NEVER WERE IN ACCOUNTABILITY
INTERVIEWS, YOU WERE LISTENING
FOR TONE.
>> INTERVIEW: EXACTLY.
AND THE BOOK -- I THOUGHT, AS I
WAS THINKING ABOUT THE BOOK, I
THOUGHT, IT WOULD BE REALLY
GREAT IF I MADE THE PERSPECTIVE
FOR THE READER TO HAVE AN
EXPERIENCE OF SITTING ON THIS
COUCH IN THE WHITE HOUSE AND
LETTING IT POUR OVER THE
READERS.
AS IT POURED OVER MINE.
>> ROSEMARY: YOU DID THAT.
ALTHOUGH THERE ARE SO MANY
POINTS THROUGHOUT THE BOOK WHERE
I WONDER HOW ACCURATE IS THIS.
AND BY THAT, I MEAN, IS IT A
FICTIONALIZED VERSION OF WHAT
YOU SAW?
>> INTERVIEW: ABSOLUTELY, IN NO
WAY, SHAPE OR FORM A
FICTIONALIZED VERSION.
I MEAN,
THIS IS LITERALLY WHAT I SAW, OR
WHAT I HEARD.
>> ROSEMARY: YOU WERE NOT
PRESENT FOR ALL OF THOSE
CONVERSATIONS.
SOME OF THOSE ARE THINGS THAT
PEOPLE RELATED BACK TO YOU?
>> INTERVIEW: ABSOLUTELY.
A PIECE OF REPORTING.
THEY WOULD TELL ME THIS
HAPPENED, THIS HAPPENED AND THIS
HAPPENED.
AT TIMES, THERE WAS SOME MARKED
DISCREPANCY BETWEEN THOSE
ACCOUNTS.
THEN YOU HAD TO GO AND SPEAK TO
ANOTHER PERSON.
AND SOMETIMES IN THE BOOK, I
JUST LET EVERYBODY TALK AND
JUDGE FOR YOURSELF.
>> ROSEMARY: WHAT ARE THE THINGS
THAT YOU -- THIS BOOK IS NOT
ABOUT YOUR IMPRESSION OF THE
WHITE HOUSE, YOU SAY.
IT IS OTHER PEOPLE'S IMPRESSIONS
OF THE PRESIDENT.
LET ME GIVE YOU MY TAKE AWAY
FROM THE PRESIDENT.
HE SEEMS AT TIMES SORT OF SAD,
LONELY, DESPERATE TO BE LIKED.
IN FACT, AN ADVISOR SAID HE
FUNDAMENTALLY NEEDED TO BE LIKED
SO BADLY, EVERYTHING IS A
STRUGGLE FOR HIM.
IF YOU PAINT THAT PICTURE OF HIM
ONE NIGHT, MANY NIGHTS IN HIS
BED, EATING HAMBURGERS BY
HIMSELF, CALLING PEOPLE.
CONSTANTLY.
IS THAT WHAT YOU EXPECTED?
IS THAT THE FELLOW YOU KNEW?
>> INTERVIEW: THIS IS NOT A
SURPRISE.
EVEN DONALD TRUMP, I MEAN, WHEN
DONALD TRUMP WAS ELECTED AND
THROUGH THE CAMPAIGN, WE KNEW
THIS WAS A -- THIS WAS A
DIFFERENT KIND OF PERSON.
AND THE PERSON HE WEARS HIS
ISSUES AS IT WERE ON HIS SLEEVE.
I THINK,
THE THING WAS, THE LOOK HOW HE
ADAPTED, GET INTO THIS
PRESIDENCY, IT WAS -- THE
PRESIDENCY CHANGES PEOPLE.
I THINK THERE WAS NO WAY TO KNOW
WHAT TO EXPECT OF A DONALD TRUMP
PRESIDENCY.
I WAS PERFECTLY WILLING TO
ENCOUNTER A SURPRISE IN THE
OPPOSITE DIRECTION.
THAT HE ROSE TO THIS.
THAT
HIS UNIQUENESS CHANGED THE
OFFICE IN POSITIVE WAYS.
I DID NOT FIND THAT.
I FOUND -- AND I HAVE HEARD
THIS, PEOPLE COMMENTED THIS
ABOUT THE PRESIDENCY BEFORE IS
THAT IT MAGNIFIES WHO YOU ARE IN
EXTREME WAYS.
I THINK THAT IS WHAT HAPPENED
HERE.
THE PRESIDENT'S INSECURITIES ARE
MAGNIFIED.
THE PRESIDENT'S INTELLECTUAL
DEFICIENCIES ARE MAGNIFIED.
THE PRESIDENT'S OWN WILLINGNESS
TO -- PERHAPS WILLINGNESS TO
CREATE CHAOS HAS BEEN MAGNIFIED.
THIS IS THE PRESIDENCY
ESSENTIALLY, THIS BECOMES DONALD
TRUMP AT LARGE.
>> ROSEMARY: THERE DOESN'T SEEM
TO BE AN INTENT TO WIN OR THERE
WAS NO DESIRE TO WIN?
>> INTERVIEW: I THINK IT GOES
FURTHER.
THERE WAS A PLAN NOT TO WIN.
THAT LOSING GOT THEM EVERYTHING
THAT THEY WOULD WANT.
I MEAN EVERYBODY WOULD BE
ELEVATED BY LOSING HERE.
>> ROSEMARY: THE BRAND.
>> INTERVIEW: HE WOULD BE THE
MOST FAMOUS MAN IN THE WORLD.
HE COULD DO ANYTHING.
HE WOULD BE BOUND BY NOTHING.
HIS CHILDREN SOCIALITES WOULD BE
GLOBAL SUPERSTARS.
STEVE BANNON WOULD BE THE
ABSOLUTE LEADER OF THE ALT RIGHT
TEA PARTY.
KELLYANNE CONWAY WOULD BE A
CABLE STAR.
BY WINNING, EVERYBODY GOT
EXPOSED.
THEY GOT EXPOSED BECAUSE THEY
HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THEY ARE
DOING.
THEY GOT EXPOSED BECAUSE THEY
DIDN'T PROTECT THEMSELVES.
THEY WERE MAKING DEALS ALL OVER
THE PLACE.
THE RUSSIANS, THE THIS.
YOU KNOW,
THAT PUT THEM UNDER THE
SPOTLIGHT IN SUCH A WAY THAT
THEY WON'T BE ABLE TO ESCAPE
THAT.
BEING A SUCCESS MEANS THAT THEY
ARE ACCOUNTABLE.
>> ROSEMARY: SO THERE IS THE
SUGGESTION BY OTHER PEOPLE THAT
HE MIGHT BE DYSLEXIC, HIS
COMPREHENSION IS LIMITED.
DOES HE NOT READ ANYTHING?
>> INTERVIEW: HE DOESN'T READ
ANYTHING.
I MEAN THAT IS THE THING.
EVERYBODY SAYS HE DOESN'T READ
ANYTHING.
OCCASIONALLY.
AND SOMEONE SAYS HE READS A
HEADLINE.
AND SOMEONE WILL SAY...
>> ROSEMARY: A TWEET.
>> INTERVIEW: SOMEBODY SAID HE
READS A HEADLINE ABOUT HIM.
WE ARE TALKING ABOUT, THIS IS AN
UNIQUE
EXCEPTIONAL SITUATION.
OBVIOUSLY, IT IS MORE CRITICAL
BECAUSE THE PRESIDENT OF THE
UNITED STATES, THE JOB MAY BE
JUST ABOUT TAKING IN
INFORMATION.
>> ROSEMARY: WILL YOU GIVE US AN
ANECDOTE AROUND THE SYRIA GAS
ATTACK.
WHEN NOTHING IS GETTING THROUGH
TO HIM.
FINALLY,
HIS DAUGHTER COMES IN WITH
PICTURES.
IT IS THE ONLY THING THAT
WORKED.
>> INTERVIEW: ABSOLUTELY.
THERE IS A WHOLE SET OF
STRATEGIES THAT EVERYONE COMES
UP WITH.
HOW DO WE COMMUNICATE WITH HIM.
PART OF THE REASON THERE ARE SO
MANY LEAKS IN THE WHITE HOUSE IS
ONE WAY TO COMMUNICATE WITH HIM
IS THROUGH THE TELEVISION.
HE DOES WATCH TELEVISION.
YOU LEAK YOUR POSITION THROUGH
TO WHATEVER SHOW HE CAN BE
COUNTED ON TO WATCH.
>> ROSEMARY: HOW MUCH DO YOU
THINK THAT LEAKING AND THE
DIFFERENT CAMPS THAT WERE
HAPPENING, WHETHER HIS FAMILY,
BANNON OR PRIEBUS CONTRIBUTED TO
THE CHAOS.
IF HE HAD MORE STABILITY AROUND
HIM IN TERMS OF ADVISORS, WOULD
IT HAVE BEEN A DIFFERENT FIRST
YEAR?
>> INTERVIEW: I THINK IT COMES
FROM HIM.
WHITE HOUSES ARE STAFFED BY
PEOPLE WHO ARE LOYAL TO THE
PRESIDENT.
THEY ARE LOYAL TO THE PRESIDENT
BECAUSE THEY HAVE GONE THROUGH A
BATTLE WITH HIM.
THEY HAVE GONE THROUGH CAMPAIGNS
THAT CAN BE, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN
BE TALKING THREE OR FOUR YEARS.
LONGER.
THESE ARE CLOSE, CLOSE
RELATIONSHIPS.
DONALD TRUMP GOES INTO THE
PRESIDENCY ALMOST A YEAR AGO
WITH PEOPLE WHO HE DOES NOT
REALLY KNOW.
NOBODY IS CLOSE.
I MEAN,
STEVE BANNON WHO IS REALLY THE
MOST IMPORTANT FIGURE HAS ONLY
KNOWN HIM SINCE THE AUGUST
BEFORE.
>> ROSEMARY: YOU SEEM TO PAINT A
VERY INTERESTING PORTRAIT OF
STEVE BANNON, MORE SYMPATHETIC
THAN I WOULD HAVE THOUGHT, HE
HAS A LOT OF IDEAS AND HE TRIES
TO PUSH.
IN FACT,
THINGS THAT WOULD HAVE PROTECTED
TRUMP.
THE SET UP OF COMMUNICATIONS WAR
ROOM OUTSIDE OF THE WHITE
HOUSE TO PROTECT HIM...
>> INTERVIEW: YES.
>> ROSEMARY: AND THAT FALLS
APART.
THE FACT THAT HE IS NOW GONE,
HOW DO YOU THINK THAT IMPACTED
TRUMP IN THE WHITE HOUSE?
>> INTERVIEW: WELL, I THINK IT
IS NOT JUST THAT STEVE IS GONE.
EVERYBODY HAS GONE.
IN MOST WHITE HOUSES, YOU LOSE
PEOPLE.
YOU LOSE THEM AT THE END OF THE
FIRST TERM.
NOT THE END OF THE FIRST 6
MONTHS.
THE STRANGE THING IS THAT HIS --
THE PEOPLE WHO ARE LEFT, I MEAN
RIGHT NOW, THE TWO SENIOR
ADVISORS TO THE PRESIDENT IN THE
WHITE HOUSE, ONE IS A FORMER
JUNIOR LEVEL FASHION PR PERSON.
AND THE OTHER IS STEVEN MILLER
WHO GOT SOME NOTICE OVER THE
WEEKEND ON A TELEVISION
PERFORMANCE THAT WAS WAKADO IF
ANYTHING.
>> THE REASON I WANT TO TALK...
>> THE REASON I WANT TO TALK
ABOUT...
>> REPORTER: THESE ARE TWO
PEOPLE WHO IN NO WAY HAVE THE
BACKGROUND, THE EXPERIENCE, THE
MATURITY TO BE THE TWO SENIOR
ADVISORS.
>> ROSEMARY: WERE YOU SURPRISED
THAT BANNON WALKED BACK ON SOME
OF THE THINGS HE SAID TO YOU?
>> INTERVIEW: I THINK THAT HE IS
JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO
MANAGE THIS.
AND DOESN'T KNOW.
I MEAN, I THINK, IT IS -- I
THINK THIS DID NOT PLAY OUT AS
HE HOPED.
>> ROSEMARY: AND NOW, HE LEFT
BREITBART AND I WONDERED WITH
THAT NEWS YESTERDAY, HAS HE LOST
THE BATTLE?
>> Interview: NEVER SAY LOSE.
I ALWAYS THOUGHT HIS TITLE CHIEF
STRATEGIST WAS THE PERFECT
TITLE.
THAT IS WHAT HE IS.
HE STRATEGIZES.
I WOULD NOT COUNT HIM OUT.
>> Rosemary: IS HE DANGEROUS?
>> INTERVIEW: I THINK HE COULD
BRING TRUMP DOWN, YES.
>> ROSEMARY: WAS THAT PART OF
THE REASON WHY HE WANTED TO TALK
TO YOU SO OFTEN ON THE RECORD?
>> Interview: YES, I THINK -- MY
THEORY, AND IT IS JUST A
THEORY, HE THOUGHT ROY MOORE,
THE SENATOR OF ALABAMA WAS GOING
TO WIN.
IF THAT HAPPENED, IT WOULD BE A
HUGE WIN FOR BANNON AND A HUGE
LOSS FOR DONALD TRUMP.
STEVE WOULD HAVE THE LEVERAGE TO
GO INTO 2018.
HE WOULD BE THE ONE COMMANDING
THE BASE.
HE WAS GOING TO USE MY BOOK AS A
FIRST STEP TO BREAK WITH THE
PRESIDENT WHO HE, YOU KNOW, HAD
REALLY COME TO BELIEVE WAS AN
IDIOT.
>> ROSEMARY: I WANT TO ASK YOU A
CANADA QUESTION.
WE LIKE TO TALK ABOUT OURSELVES.
THERE ARE MENTIONS OF OUR PRIME
MINISTER IN THERE.
ONE OF THEM IS AROUND WHEN
JUSTIN TRUDEAU GOES DOWN TO MEET
HIM AND YOU SAID HE BITES HIS
TONGUE AND THAT IS HOW THEY GET
ALONG.
IS THERE A LESSON IN THAT?
>> INTERVIEW: I THINK THAT IS
THE INTERNATIONAL LESSON FOR ALL
FOREIGN LEADERS AND DIPLOMATS.
HE JUST WANTS TO BE FLATTERED.
HE WANTS TO BE PRAISED.
HE WANTS WHAT HE WANTS.
IF YOU GIVE HIM WHAT HE WANTS,
HE WILL GIVE YOU WHAT YOU WANT
IF IT DOESN'T COST HIM ANYTHING.
>> ROSEMARY: SO, YOU KNOW, A LOT
OF PEOPLE THOUGHT HE WOULD NOT
LAST A YEAR.
THEY THOUGHT HE WOULD NOT LAST A
MANDATE.
WHERE DO YOU THINK -- CAN HE
HOLD ON TO THIS FOR THE NEXT
THREE YEARS?
>> INTERVIEW: A GOOD QUESTION.
I DON'T KNOW.
ANYTHING COULD -- THERE ARE A
LOT OF MINEFIELDS THERE.
PROBABLY THE PIVOTAL ONE IS WHAT
HAPPENS IN 2018.
>> ROSEMARY: WHERE DOES THIS
LEAVE YOU AND YOUR VIEW OF THE
STATE OF DEMOCRACY IN YOUR
COUNTRY RIGHT NOW?
I KNOW IT IS A BIG QUESTION.
KNOWING ALL YOU KNOW...
>> TO BE HONEST, I KIND OF AM
OPTIMISTIC.
TRUMP WENT TO WASHINGTON
BELIEVING HE COULD BREAK
EVERYTHING.
WASHINGTON AND DEMOCRACY ITSELF
IS AS MUCH ABOUT INSTITUTIONS AS
IT IS ABOUT WHO GETS ELECTED.
AND I DON'T THINK HE CAN WIN
AGAINST THESE INSTITUTIONS.
I THINK THAT HE BELIEVES HE CAN
DISRUPT EVERYTHING AND HE
CANNOT.
>> ROSEMARY: THANK YOU VERY
MUCH.
I APPRECIATE IT.
THANK YOU.
>> ANDREW: STILL TO COME ON "THE
NATIONAL" ONTARIO LABOUR UNIONS
ARE TURNING UP THE HEAT ON TIM
HORTONS.
THEY RALLIED OUTSIDE MULTIPLE
LOCATIONS IN SUPPORT OF WORKERS
WHOSE BENEFITS WERE CUT.
TO OFFSET THE MINIMUM WAGE HIKE.
>> INTERVIEW: WE ARE GOING TO
STAND SHOULDER TO SHOULDER WITH
EVERY WORKER IN THE PROVINCE,
WHETHER THEY BELONG TO A UNION
OR NOT.
WE WILL MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE
RESPECTED AND ARE NOT
>> IAN: WE KNOW WHAT CAUSED THE
PLANE CRASH IN QUEBEC THAT
KILLED A FORMER LIBERAL CABINET
MINISTER AND 6 OTHERS.
ALMOST
TWO YEARS AGO.
JEAN LAPIERRE AND MEMBERS OF HIS
FAMILY AND THE FLIGHT CREW DIED
WHETHER THE PLANE WENT
DOWN IN QUEBEC'S MAGDALEN
ISLANDS IN MARCH OF 2016.
THEY WERE GOING HOME FROM A
FUNERAL OF THE FAMILY PATRIARCH.
>>> THE TRANSPORTATION SAFETY
BOARD SAID WHILE THE WEATHER WAS
NOT IDEAL THAT DAY, IT WAS NOT
TO BLAME.
THE TSB SAID THE KEY FACTOR WAS
THE PILOT'S DECISION TO CONTINUE
WHAT IT CALLED AN UNSTABLE
APPROACH, SOMETHING THAT THEY
SAID IS A WIDE AND PERSISTENT
PROBLEM.
>> WE HAVE SEEN TOO MANY IN THE
PAST LEAD TO TRAGIC ACCIDENTS.
THAT IS WHY UNSTABLE APPROACHES
ARE ON THE WATCH LIST.
>> Ian: THIS ANIMATION SHOWS HOW
THE PLANE APPROACHED THE RUNWAY
FASTER AND HIGHER THAN
RECOMMENDED.
IT MADE IT HARDER TO MAINTAIN
STABILITY.
THE PILOT REDUCED POWER THAT
ULTIMATELY
SLOWED THE PLANE DOWN TOO MUCH.
TO COMPENSATE,
HE INCREASED POWER TO THE ENGINE
BUT
THAT WAS TOO MUCH TOO QUICKLY.
THE PLANE PITCHED HARD TO THE
RIGHT AND CRASHED BEFORE HE
COULD RECOVER.
THE TSB POINTED TO THE PILOT'S
RELATIVE
INEXPERIENCE WITH THIS TYPE OF
PLANE.
THE MITSUBISHI IS A SMALL BUT
VERY
POWERFUL AIRCRAFT.
ITS PERFORMANCE IS DESCRIBED AS
CLOSER TO THAT OF A SMALL JET
THAN A PISTON ENGINE PLANE.
THE POWER MAKES IT HARD TO
HANDLE.
THE PILOT DID HAVE THE REQUIRED
NUMBER OF FLIGHT HOURS, BUT HAD
ONLY
FLOWN THE PLANE FOR FOUR HOURS
IN THE MONTH BEFORE THE CRASH.
>>> ANDREW, ANOTHER DEVELOPMENT
IN THE CONTROVERSY OVER THE
INCREASE IN ONTARIO'S MINIMUM
WAGE.
>> ANDREW: THE PROTESTERS
GATHERED OUTSIDE SEVERAL TIM
HORTONS LOCATIONS ACROSS THE
PROVINCE TODAY.
>> THEY SAY CUT BACK.
>> WE SAY CUT BACK.
>> THEY SAY CUT BACK...
>> WE SAY CUT BACK.
>> ANDREW: A SHOW OF SUPPORT FOR
WORKERS WHO BENEFITS AND PAID
BREAKS ARE BEING CUT IN
RESPONSE TO THE MINIMUM WAGE
HIKE.
WHAT IS INTERESTING, THE
PROTESTS WERE ORGANIZED BY
SEVERAL
UNIONS WHO SUGGEST THIS COULD BE
THE PERFECT MOMENT FOR WORKERS
TO MOBILIZE AND WORK TOGETHER TO
PROTECT THEIR INTERESTS.
>> REPORTER: IN COBOURG, WHERE
THE BACKLASH BEGAN, MORE THAN
100 PEOPLE GATHERED TO SUPPORT
TIM HORTONS WORKERS.
>> INTERVIEW: I WOULD LIKE THEM
TO GET THE BENEFITS BACK AND LET
THEM KEEP THEIR TIPS AND HAVE
PAID BREAKS.
THERE IS NO REASON TO CUT ALL
THAT.
ABSOLUTELY,
NO REASON WHATSOEVER.
>> REPORTER: BUT THE OVERRIDING
MESSAGE WAS CLEAR...
>> IF I WAS THEM, I WOULD BE
JOINING A UNION.
THAT IS REALLY
THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS A
PROTECTION OF A
COLLECTIVE AGREEMENT.
>> REPORTER: IT WAS THE SAME AT
TIM HORTONS AROUND TORONTO.
EARLIER IN THE DAY.
>> PAID BREAKS...
>> YES.
>> WE WANT THEM TO HAVE RESPECT.
>> YES.
>> REPORTER: AND LABOUR
ACTIVISTS HAD A WARNING FOR TIM
HORTONS PARENT COMPANIES.
>> THE CEO BETTER HEAR ME LOUD
AND CLEAR...
THE LABOUR MOVEMENT IS GOING TO
MOBILIZE LIKE ONTARIO HAS NOT
SEEN IN A VERY LONG TIME.
TO
THE WORKERS THAT ARE BEING
DISADVANTAGED, THE WORKERS FIND
THEMSELVES IN PRECARIOUS JOBS.
I KNOW HOW YOU CAN HELP YOUR
-- YOURSELVES, JOIN A UNION IN
THE
PROVINCE OF ONTARIO.
THAT IS HOW WE MAKE LIFE BETTER
FOR WORKERS, JOIN A UNION.
>> REPORTER: THAT MAY NOT BE SO
EASY.
>> Interview: FAST-FOOD
EMPLOYERS ARE
REALLY INVESTED IN UNION
AVOIDANCE.
>> Reporter: SHE SAID EMPLOYERS
DILUTE SUPPORT FOR UNIONS BY
HIRING
NEW EMPLOYEES, FIRING OLD ONES,
OR MOVING THEM TO ANOTHER
FRANCHISE.
AND EVEN IF WORKERS MANAGE TO
UNIONIZE, IT IS NOT WITHOUT
RISK.
A HANDFUL OF MCDONALD'S
RESTAURANTS IN B.C. AND QUEBEC,
AND ONTARIO
UNIONIZED IN THE '90S.
AND WERE EITHER DECERTIFIED OR
SHUT DOWN.
>> OUR LABOUR LEGISLATION DOES
NOT DO ENOUGH TO PROTECT WORKERS
WHO WANT TO UNIONIZE.
IT DOESN'T DO ENOUGH TO SUPPORT
WORKERS IN INDUSTRIES LIKE
FAST-FOOD WHEN THEY UNIONIZE TO
CREATE GOOD COLLECTIVE
AGREEMENTS.
>> REPORTER: IF TIMS WORKERS
NEED AN EXAMPLE, THEY CAN LOOK
TO WINNIPEG.
TWO RESTAURANTS HAVE UNIONIZED.
ONE IN 2015 AND ONE THE PAST
SUMMER.
CBC NEWS, TORONTO.
>> ANDREW: BETWEEN THE EXTREME
COLD AND HEAVY SNOWFALL, IT IS
SAFE TO SAY WINTER HIT CANADA
HARD THIS YEAR.
HERE IS HOW ONE CANADIAN IS
CHOOSING TO MAKE THE BEST OF THE
COLD WEATHER WITH A LITTLE HELP
FROM A FEW FAMILIAR FACES.
>> EVERYBODY, I THE -- AM MATT
MORRIS IN WATERLOO.
I WANT
TO WELCOME YOU TO OUR SNOWBANK.
I HAVE BEEN MAKING SNOW
SCULPTURES ON THE FRONT LAWN FOR
6 YEARS.
IT IS GREAT FUN.
IT STARTED WHEN MY WIFE AND I
TOURED THE MUSEUM AND SAW LARGE
EASTER ISLAND STONE SCULPTURES.
I SAID, LET'S GO HOME AND MAKE
ONE OF THOSE ON OUR FRONT LAWN.
THERE ARE TWO REASONS I DO THIS,
ONE IS FOR THE GREAT FUN.
AND THE SECOND IS THE CHALLENGE
OF INNOVATING.
I LIVE IN WATERLOO.
THAT IS WHAT WE DO HERE.
SPEAKING OF INNOVATION, HERE IS
MICK JAGR.
YOU CAN LOOK BEHIND AND YOU MAY
SEE IT IS A DIFFERENT SNOW
SCULPTURE.
IN FACT,
PART OF THE FUN THIS YEAR IN THE
AREA OF INNOVATION WAS CREATING
>> Andrew: ON "THE NATIONAL"
TONIGHT, SENIOR OFFICIALS IN
OTTAWA SAY THEY'VE NEVER SEEN
ANYTHING LIKE IT.
EIGHT CANADIAN DIPLOMATS POSTED
TO CUBA HAVE FALLEN ILL IN
RECENT MONTHS WITH SYMPTOMS LIKE
HEADACHES, DIZZINESS AND NOSE
BLEEDS.
THEY SAY THE CAUSE IS A TOTAL
MYSTERY, BUT IT'S ALSO STUMPED
U.S. AUTHORITIES, MANY OF ITS
EMBASSY STAFFERS EXPERIENCED
SIMILAR PROBLEMS.
>>> IN EDMONTON TODAY, A
POWERFUL UNDER GROUND EXPLOSION
CAUSED A WOMAN TO FALL THROUGH A
MANHOLE AND BECOME TRAPPED.
EMERGENCY WORKERS FOUND HER 3
1/2 METRES BELOW GROUND
SURROUNDED BY HIGH-VOLTAGE
WIRES.
IT TOOK ABOUT 25 MINUTES, BUT
INTEND, THEY MANAGED TO FREE HER
AND SHE WAS TAKEN TO HOSPITAL
WITH A POSSIBLE BROKEN ANKLE.
>> IT'S TIME FOR ME TO SEEK NEW
OPPORTUNITIES AND MAKE SPACE FOR
NEW LEADERSHIP.
>> Andrew: BIG POLITICAL CHANGES
COMING TO VANCOUVER.
AFTER NEARLY A DECADE AT THE
HELM, MAYOR GREGOR ROBERTSON
ANNOUNCED THAT HE WILL NOT SEEK
RE-ELECTION.
HE MADE THE DECISION AFTER
SPEAKING WITH FAMILY AND FRIEND
OVER THE HOLIDAYS.
AS FOR WHAT'S NEXT, HE WOULD NOT
SAY, EXCEPT THAT HE HAS NO PLANS
TO CONTINUE IN POLITICS.
>> Ian: YOU MAY REMEMBER THE
STORY OF DIANE BISHOP,
NEWFOUNDLAND WOMAN WHO HAD
LATE-STAGE CANCER, COULDN'T
AFFORD TO QUIT HER JOB AND THEN
WON $1.5 MILLION IN A LOTTERY.
SADLY, BISHOP DIED LAST NIGHT AT
THE AGE OF 51.
>> HOW DO WE BUY GROCERIES?
HOW DO WE PAY NORMAL HOUSEHOLD
BILLS?
WE DON'T.
IT'S DIFFICULT THAT YOU FACE
THESE CHALLENGES
AND OWN TOP OF IT, TO FACE, HOW
DO I LIVE?
WE WERE JUMPING AND SCREAMING,
LIKE, OH, MY GOD, WE ACTUALLY
WON THIS.
I WENT FROM NO HOPE TO, IT'S A
BIG BALL OF WEIGHT HAS BEEN
LIFTED OFF MY SHOULDERS
THE STRESS IS GONE.
THE ANXIETY IS GONE FROM BEING
SICK.
I KNOW I CAN'T BEAT STAGE 4,
BECAUSE YOU'RE A TICKING TIME
BOMB, BUT IT'S GIVEN ME HOPE
THAT MAYBE IT CAN GO DORMANT FOR
A WHILE OR DISAPPEAR FOR A WHILE
AND I CAN LIVE MY LIFE.
IF I DON'T, I'M -- I GOT
EVERYTHING THAT I WISHED FOR.
I CAN GO HAPPY, BUT I'M NOT
GOING YET.
[LAUGHTER]
>> Ian: AND THAT'S "THE
NATIONAL" FOR JANUARY 10.
GOOD NIGHT.
>> Andrew: GOOD NIGHT.
>> Rosemary: GOOD NIGHT.
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