We're all moving toward electric driving.
I wonder if we'll all be driving electric, or maybe I have to rephrase the question.
When will we all be driving electric? This can be a discussion.
Fact is, there are multiple electric car suppliers on the market now.
There's Tesla with the Model S and Model X.
To be honest, their price category is out of reach for most people.
Expensive cars. Pretty cars with fantastic specs, but there are other suppliers.
What is a "normal" car? What is a modal car?
What is most common? I think C segment cars.
This includes the e-Golf, coming soon.
This is the new Nissan Leaf. It was the first C segment electric car.
Many have been sold. This is the second generation.
Behind me is its rival, the Hyundai Ioniq.
Fun thing is, the Ioniq is available with all kinds of powertrains.
There's a plug-in hybrid, a hybrid, and a fully electric version.
We'll be driving both today.
We know the limitations of electric cars.
If we want to go to southern France in a hurry, I'd choose a different car for now.
Even though road-side charging is getting better with quick chargers and apps with charging points.
A gasoline or diesel car probably arrives in southern France first.
However, you don't drive to southern France every day.
Unless you live there, but you're already there and have no problems with range.
We're going to drive both and compare them.
Will it make you happy and what's the range under different conditions?
It's cold, even though I'm wearing a summer jacket.
It's a bit windy, but the sun does shine.
Let's go on a little trip.
Maybe you're watching this video as a petrolhead and the Leaf doesn't appeal to you.
I can imagine. This car doesn't have sporty genes.
We're taking a right here. Let's see, I can turn indicate.
The E-Panel is on. That means it brakes when you lift the throttle.
I basically need only one pedal. That was an aside because I needed to take this exit.
I was talking about the Leaf. Does it appeal to petrolheads?
They like sporty driving and engine sound. You don't have the latter in an EV.
It's not a sporty car either.
On the other hand, don't forget this is the bestselling electric car ever.
300,000 Leafs have already been sold at the beginning of 2018.
That was the old Leaf with a tiny battery.
It does meet a demand. Many have been sold in the United States and Japan.
This shows there's a market for it.
I wanted to tell you if you're watching this video as a petrolhead.
There's a chance that you clicked on this video.
About the new Leaf.
It has less of an electro styling. I think it looks like a more normal car.
The Ioniq does have the Prius topping.
These cars show they're meant to be an eco vehicle and that they're electric or a hybrid.
I know the Prius does have fans.
Maybe the current Prius not so much. The previous Prius definitely did.
Do I have to go right? No, that's the highway. Let's not go there.
That's a nice transition to the range.
This is the new Leaf. We'll talk about range, highway, city, and weather conditions later.
The new Leaf has a bigger battery of nearly 40 kWh.
That's a big upgrade compared to the previous Leaf.
In theory you could do 400 km (249 miles).
The range is a thing with these cars. How far can you drive with it?
It depends when you ask this question.
An electric car has a disadvantage in winter.
An internal combustion engine burns gasoline, diesel, LPG, or green gas.
Something burns inefficiently. The byproduct is called heat, which can warm up the car.
The passengers will be warm; everything is fine.
An electric car doesn't have that.
In a Leaf you can switch the heating on and off.
There's a button saying "heat". It has to co-fire, as it were.
This requires a lot of electricity.
Your range is much shorter in winter than in summer. That's one thing.
Second, an internal combustion engine has a disadvantage in the city.
You brake and lose heat through the brake discs or drum brakes.
You burn fuel for nothing, letting it disappear into the atmosphere.
Braking in an electric car regenerates energy.
In the city this car is in its element.
The best range you can get from this generation Leaf is in summer.
It shouldn't be too warm, because the A/C needs electricity too.
City traffic, not too warm, and you can do 350-360 km (217-224 miles).
You'll have to do your best, but it's possible.
Worse case scenario is on the highway in winter below freezing.
You have to turn up the heat or wear a thick coat. Maybe you won't.
150-170 km (93-106 miles) is doable like that, depending on your speed.
I'm doing 110 kph (68 mph) on the speedometer.
The Leaf will use more electricity than when you do 100 or 90 kph (62 or 56 mph).
You do have to consider what you're using the car for.
Realistically you can always do 250 km (155 miles) if you slow down.
If you don't slow down, it burns rubber.
You get instant torque. That'd be 320 Nm (236 lb ft).
Peak performance is 148 hp.
We timed the car with our new equipment. It does 0-100 kph (62 mph) in 9.2 seconds.
That's okay. The top speed is less okay, but you won't buy this car for its speed.
You'll use a lot of electricity. 144 kph (89 mph).
We did that speed and are proud of it.
We don't always get to drive a car at its top speed.
This car really isn't slow. The torque is always available.
It's nice to drive. There are more things I want to talk about.
The Leaf has all kinds of assistent systems now.
ProPilot, so you have adaptive cruise control and it stays in between the lines.
The warnings are annoying. It buzzes.
I don't think you can hear, but it's like an annoying doorbell.
You can probably switch it on and off.
The car's practical use.
You can complain about the car's range isn't sufficient in winter,
but it's often used as a taxi.
Of course this is promoted.
Sometimes an electric taxi is allowed to stand in front of the queue, diesel has to stand in the back.
This promotes the electric taxi.
This is a hatchback with five seats and plenty of luggage space.
I think it's comfortable enough and fast enough if you don't want to race on the Autobahn.
You can use a quick charger. This means 80% in 40 minutes.
However, if the battery gets too hot, the quick charger takes it down a notch.
The car's electronics make sure you don't use a quick charger too often
because it's bad for the battery.
Nissan and Leaf owners are having a discussion about what to do.
Nissan says they have the experience of all owners. This is what people want.
Some owners say they want to go to southern France and use a quick charger every time.
That's a thing to keep in mind.
If you do want to drive long distances with the Leaf, check the latest status of the discussion.
This can be solved with a software update.
Do realize that using a quick charger often is bad for the battery.
To take the elephant out of the room: the battery of the first generation Leaf.
300,000 cars were sold, but only a few batteries have been replaced because of capacity loss.
They seem sturdy enough.
Charging won't kill the battery, like you can with the iPhone.
You can throw your iPhone away after two years because the battery is dead. You know.
When you see an Ioniq, only the gray nose will tell you it's an EV.
It's also available as a plug-in hybrid and hybrid.
Some people wrap the nose black. It's not...
It interrupts me. That's lane-keeping assist.
I'm switching it off because it beeps. Let me demonstrate.
That's an annoying sound interrupting the video.
This costs as much as the Leaf.
It starts at 34,000 euros.
It was a rather popular car this past period, as was the Leaf.
The demand wasn't extremely high, but you have to look carefully if you want one now.
The new Leaf is an eyesore for Hyundai, because it has more horsepower, a bigger battery,
more torque, it's newer, has a long range, so why is the Ioniq still here?
I think there's still a market for this car.
It's funny. I think this car is more energy efficient.
The range is 280 km (174 miles) on paper.
You can do that in summer without using the A/C.
In winter, using the heater on the highway, it's halved.
140 km (87 miles) is about it.
And all the ranges in between.
This car likes city traffic best.
The fun thing about the Ioniq... The car's shape already gives it away.
It's very streamlined. The drag coefficient is 0.24.
That's a nice basis to get further at highway speeds.
We're doing 80 kph (50 mph) now.
The air resistance does count.
As does the rolling resistance of the tires.
Most EVs, except for Teslas, have relatively narrow tires.
There's usually not an option for bigger rims.
That has to do with saving the range.
This car has an electric motor and a 1-speed transmission.
It's a fixed gear.
118 hp and 295 Nm (218 lb ft) torque.
I did 0-100 kph (62 mph) in 9.8 seconds.
That's slower than the Leaf, but it's not a big difference.
You can also measure the quarter mile, but this car is faster on the half mile (800 meters).
The streamline counts at high speeds.
I haven't mentioned the battery's capacity yet. It's 28 kWh.
It's not that big, so Hyundai may change that and supply a bigger battery.
They'll have the Hyundai Kona SUV soon. That one has 64 kWh.
Who knows, maybe the Ioniq will get an upgrade.
This car was faster on the half mile.
This is of no use in the real world.
Even with less horsepower, this car accelerates better at highway speeds.
The top speed is higher too. The Leaf does 144 kph (89 mph), the Ioniq does 165 kph (103 mph).
This does you no good on longer distances because it drains the battery.
You can't do a video about C segment EVs without the overall market leader.
We asked Casper to drive the e-Golf from Leusden to Goes. That's a nice trip. He liked it.
He had to charge it too.
Here we are. The sun is out, so that's nice.
This is a pretty e-Golf.
I should be able to charge it here.
I can't see it's charging anywhere.
I don't see the range increasing either.
Anyway, electric driving is great, but you have a problem if the chargers don't work.
Trucks are overtaking me.
5 kilometer range and 1.7 kilometers to go. We're going to make it.
Now we can include the e-Golf. The specs are similar, yet they aren't.
The e-Golf isn't a full EV.
The Ioniq is available with other powertrains as well, but the main goal is EV.
The Leaf too. A number of things show this.
The styling. Love it or hate it.
The engine bay of the e-Golf has a lot of extra space.
That's strange. Some components could've been in a different location. They could've done it differently.
In the transition period toward EV only, some cars won't be optimized for the battery, motors, etc.
That's a lot of stuff.
The e-Golf is more expensive than this duo.
Both are 34,000 euros. The e-Golf is 39,500 euros.
That's the "price" to pay to drive a normal car electrically.
Most people don't care about the price. It's often used as a company vehicle.
That means 4% additional tax liability over the original price.
In the end it's all about the additional tax liability. The 5,000 euro difference doesn't matter.
The additional tax liability is very low.
A new rule will probably be introduced in 2019.
You'll only have a low additional tax liability over the first 50,000 euros and 22% over the rest.
This'll make the exact price of the car important,
but if you stay below 50,000 euros there's no issue with EVs.
We're getting to the conclusion. Can we handle it?
When do you want this? There's a tax advantage and some simply think it's cool to drive an EV.
Because of the environment, the technology, the...
You couldn't see Martijn's head move, but I did.
I went full throttle at 100 kph (62 mph). The electric torque is cool.
Another cool thing about these cars is they're pretty stuffed with technology.
Assistant lane departure, adaptive cruise control, connectivity, apps,
you can set when you want to charge, pre-heat at the charger, etc.
These are all cool things, things you need because an EV is more critical about range and heating.
Still, it's fun. I think it's nice to drive.
It does have to match your usage profile, though.
I drive great distances, going from Rotterdam to Goes to drive some cars,
or to the Flevopolder to do things, or to Germany to drive some cars.
This happens more often.
Concluding, the Leaf has an advantage.
It has a bigger battery than the Ioniq and Golf.
The styling is personal.
Many think the Golf is very boring.
The e-Golf is a bit boring too. It doesn't have big rims.
The Ioniq has an eco EV car styling.
The Leaf is more normal. It's a nice car and it beats the other cars with its range.
All three cars have a practical use.
That means we made progress in the past few years.
The first generation Leaf has a range of 130 km (81 miles), if you are lucky.
Maybe half. That's barely enough for groceries.
These cars do 160-200 km (99-124 miles) under all conditions.
Sometimes you have to go slower, but you can go somewhere.
We're not completely there yet. A bigger range would be nice.
We do know this will come.
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