Welcome back to LoveWins, talkshow for LGBT couple in Vietnam
Being here today with me is mom Phi Ha
Hi all of our audience, today we will meet a very cute couple. Right, Thien An?
Yes, today we will have a talk with couple Son Hong Pham & Thony Nguyen
But before inviting them to come here, let's watch some of their lovely videos
Welcome our couple today: Son Hong Pham & Thony Anh Nguyen
Hi Mrs. Phi Ha, Thien An & our audience
I'm Thony, manager of a Spa company in Australia.
Hi, I'm Son Hong Pham
Business man in Ho Chi Minh city
How long have you been together?
It's almost 3 years
First time we meet, we are both traveling with friends
In Da Lat city, he saw me
And he came to ask for my infomaton
At that time I saw him and like him very much, so I decided to ask for his Facebook name
Did your friends dare you to do that?
No, no, it's my decision
The main reason is that he's lovely & handsome
He's also a hot boy in LGBT community
Is it love at first sight?
So how did Son reply at that time?
He just told me his Facebook name.
And when I come back home, I send him a message for making friend
But in the beginning, he reply me very little
Is he arrogant?
I'm just lazy so I don't wanna talk at that time
Why did you agree to add him on Facebook but you still dont want to talk?
Remember it again, did you agree to tell him your facebook name immediately?
Yes, because I'm single at that time so I'm not afraid anything. I've broken up with my ex for some years
-Did you travel alone at that time? - No, with my friends
Ah, I see, so I think Thony was very brave
I think when Son realize Thony is also a handsome boy so you decide to agree?
You two are a beautiful & attractive couple
And I think there must have many persons want to flirt with one of you
So did you have any jealousy story?
Yes
Tell me something about it
I'm the one who is jealousy more
There's someone who usually send him text like
Good night! What re you doing... etc
And Thony still replied back like "I'm having dinner"...
So I take his phone and I send message to that person like "He sleep very well, no need to say good night"
- So was Thony aware of it? - Yes
Not he replied back a little less
What did you think after he send the text by your phone?
I think it's normal because he has his reason for being jealousy
Actually when I replied the message, I don't think much. It's just a polite answer
And now no more?
Yes, no more
How hard are you Son for making him like this?
Every night when he sleep, I take his phone & I watched the messages
I checked everything. But now it's not much like first days
Did you feel being controled too much, Thony?
Sometimes, but not much because I have nothing to hide
Yes, it makes senses, huh?
But does your phone has password?
My phone can be unlocked by Face ID so everytime he want to check, he tell me to open my eyes
Even when I'm very sleepy I still must open eyes to unlock for him
But how about you, Thony? Are you jealousy?
At first I'm also jealousy a little bit
But I'm just think about it but not say it out loud
Just silently watch & see
The most important thing is that Son is a business man so he must talk with many persons
- Just angry & jelousy by yourself? - A little bit haha
But is there any time one of you was super angry?
I think it must have, huh?
Yes, when I'm jealousy, I usually wreck anything in my hand
Throwing things on him, hit him...
-How did you deal with it? - I just keep silent at that time
Why don't you hug him?
Can not, because if I hug him, he will hit me harder
Just let him hit and you can explain later, right?
He's always for a long time
I must say sorry day by day until he calm down
So that why now you don't want to make him angry, right?
So now you guys are living together?
So, Thony, what is the worst behavior of Son you can't stand?
He's very hot tempered
Whether he's right or wrong, first reaction of him is become angry
So how did you deal with it?
I say sorry
Say sorry first and the rest we can solve later
Or I will keep silent and go somewhere else
How about you, Son?
Let me think....
Haha so much that he doesn't know to tell what
Ok so let's change the question, what is the best characteristic of Thony that you admire the most?
I think it's that he's very gentle and hard working
And he always me
What was the first impression of you about him?
First time I met him, I think he looks like a bottom, very small guy
He doesn't meet my standard of boyfriend
And how come he make you agree to be his boy friend?
Time by time, I just think that may be we don't need to always stick with the standard
So I give a try
So now it's not a try anymore?
So until now. what is the thing that make both of you strongly feel that the other one is the right one
With me, Son is a very progressive
He live independently very soon
He noew can earn enough money to take care of himself and his family
How about you, Son, what make the "try" become reality?
I think because he is a very truthful guy
Thony, now do you usually flight back to Australia?
I haven't come back there for about 1,5 years
My job is nearly stable here
First time when we are in relationship, I come back there very usually
When we are not being near together, I'm very afraid...
Ah, so there were a time your are in long distance relationship
Yes, but not so long
He left and come back very soon, just about 1, 2 months
You're such a rich man, huh?
Money I saved from work
And I also integrated my trip with my working here and there
So, now we have a small mini game for both of you. Let's play together!
So now I will give you the pictures of both of you
After I read the question, please raise your answer by choosing the picture
So, the first question is: Who is the more clever one?
Haha, both of you choose yourself
I think each of us clever in each field
How clever you are, Son?
I'm clever at little things in house and life
And the big thing is more about Thony?
Yes, like fixing a computer, Thony is better
Next question is, in your first kiss, who is the one "make a move" first?
Haha, different answer again
I think both of you want to kiss at that time, huh?
Ah I see, it makes sense
Who is the one grumble more
Oh, it's matched answer
- What did you crumble about? - Everything
Everything? Really?
Like if i packed a mail not very well, he crumble and be angry immediately
He tell me that "If you can't do it, let me"
Ah, I see, it just because he want it perfect?
but with me, I already packed it very well, no need to be super perfect like he want
The next question, who do more house working?
It's not matched again haha
So, Thony, what house working you did?
I wash and hang the clothes, arrange stuff in house
Son, did you do that?
No
I just clean the floor
Actually I never wash or hang the clothes
Why, because you don't like to do it or because Thony want to do it for you?
It's because he like to do it haha
Have you ever been angry when he hang the clothes not perfect as you want?
Yes
At first I usually being mad about it
He didn't do it, but when he see me doing, he's not satisfied
Next question, who make the other laugh more?
Haha sorry It's Son
Let me guess, it's because his "crumble" characteristic, right?
Yes, it's just like a song being replay
When I started to say, I already knew what he gonna say next
After 5 questions, you guys are not matched very much
But we think you are still a very matched couple
Back to the talkshow of LoveWins
What do you feel about your life now?
We are living togther. Sometimes my parents also come to visit us
Oh, how cool. So did you meet difficulty when coming out with family?
With me, it's like a road with beautiful roses
I just walked there, no need to come out, no need to explain
My parents know by themselves
At first, I blocked my parents on Facebook
But somehow they still saw my photo & video
They take videos of me & Thony and show to other people and say something like "you see how cute they are"
How wonderful they are
But it's just on my side. Thony's family is harder
About my family, my parents knew about my sexual orientation but didn't accept it
At first they also said that they don't want to have a child like me
They said it 2 times
They said I should leave the family if I still want to be a gay
But as time goes by, they become more easy with it but until now they still don't accept
Now they still talk with me normally but never mention about it
Do they force you to get marriage with girl?
Yes, sometimes they come and ask me when I will marry a girl?
Although they know that I'm in relationship with Son but they never talk about it
Luckily, I have support from adoptive dad in Australia
So, did Son's parents meet Thony?
-Yes, they like Thony very much - Amazing!
They always ask about Thony, Thony, Thony...
So, you have supporting from one side
We hope you will soon can convince Thony's parents. So, about your life, do you guys have any plan for future?
Now I want to focus on my clothes shop
We not yet think more far about marriage or children
So how about you Thony?
My plan is try to earn money to buy a house for us in Sai Gon
But at first I need to stablize my work between Australia and Vietnam
I hopy you guys can reach your plan as soon as possible in the future
Yes, and I belive that every parents love their children
Sooner or later, they will accept you, May be they don't say it directly, but they will understand you more
Now the most important thing they need is time, right
Both of you let live a happy famly, responsility and being a good people in social
I believe luck thing will come to you
So, if now you can send to your parents a message
What will you say, to make them understand more about your life now?
We dont know what to talk
Okay, so let talk with Son' parents?
I just want to say that I love you so much
In my mind you are my family
Thank you so much for trating me so well
How lucky you are!
So, do you guys have any inspiring message to the people in LGBT community?
To LGBT community, I just want to say: Let love by all your heart
Just follow four feeling and dont need toc are about what people think
How about you, Thony?
I want to say that "Don't be afraid"
I see that many persons afraid of love because they afraid of being heart broken
They don't believe in love in LGBT community
At first Son was also afraid of starting a relationship because he has a broken heart
But I think when we are still young
We should believe in love and keep our faith
Thank you for coming here today with very meaningful message and story
We also have a small gift for you
I hope it will be a sweet memory for you
Thank you Thien An, Mrs Phi Ha & LoveWins
Good bye and see you in next episode
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