Hello and welcome to the Griddy Films Nitty Griddy review of Justice League.
This is of course the 2017 superhero movie just released in theaters.
It's written by Chris Terrio and Joss Whedon and is directed by Zack Snyder
and it's starring Ben Affleck, Gal Gadot, and Henry Cavill. It's rated PG-13 for some sequences of
sci-fi action and violence. This movie is kind of like if the movies Avengers and
Avengers: Age of Ultron had a baby and that baby one day grew up to realize,
"Oh, my God, I'm exactly like my parents!" If that sounds harsh, don't worry. I have
plenty of good things to say about this movie. So, the first category on my grid is
gonna be genre and when it comes to genre, Justice League pretty much hits
all of the standard tropes and archetypes. The genre is still relatively
new so it can kind of get away with it. But that said, we are starting to get
movies like Deadpool and even Thor Ragnarok that are very self-aware and
know the tropes and kind of start to make fun of them so hopefully DC movies
in the future are gonna start to shy away from the very formulaic genre
tropes and archetypes that they've been sticking with but we definitely get
those with Justice League. You know, you have the unnecessary and forced sexual
tension between Bruce Wayne and Diana. You have a female superhero
surrounded by male superheroes, she's got to hook up with somebody. But, the Bruce
Wayne/Diana Prince just felt like an unnecessary trope that was thrown in for
the sake of being there. There was also some archetypical aspects to Lois Lane's
character. You know, she just has a myriad of personality traits that were just
completely washed out just to make her be this codependence extension of
Superman instead of her own character. She had no agency. She just had no
purpose aside from reminding him of his humanity and making him look good in the
press. That is--those two things are her only functions within the DC Extended
Universe and I get that those are
functions that Lois Lane has and she should have those functions. It would
have been nice to see her serve more functions than that. Overall, I gave the
genre category a 4.67 out of 10 which is gonna be a
C-. I consider a five out of 10 to be average. It just definitely, you know,
fell into all the standard tropes and didn't really take any risks or
challenge any of the tropes and I think because the genre has developed to the
point where we can start being self-aware about these tropes, DC is
gonna have to start not necessarily making, you know, the more meta, self-aware
type movies but just being aware of the tropes and fitting that into their
scripts so that it's not quite so predictable and so formulaic.
The next category in my grid is gonna be writing. In general, the plot structure of Justice
League was very simple. Considering how many--not just how many characters they
have, but how many new characters they're introducing to the franchise, I think
they were actually able to use a very simple plot and then introduce all those
characters in in a really efficient way and it wasn't riddled with holes. There
are a few basic little questions I have but nothing--no gaping holes. I'm not
quite sure if this would be considered a plot hole or just people being stupid
but after Superman is resurrected, the Mother Box goes flying and not one of
the five heroes things to maybe go retrieve that box? And then not only that,
but when Steppenwolf comes to get the box, which everybody knew he would do,
they just stand from afar and watch. And just on a quick note with the writing,
did I bother anybody else that none of these heroes even tried to maintain
their secret identities? It really bothered me that they just willy-nilly use
their real names left and right. At least try to be a little more covert guys.
Come on.
I also want to mention real quick some of the similarities between Justice
League and both Avengers and Avengers: Age of Ultron. I think the most obvious
to me was the scene where Steppenwolf first comes out of the Mother Box on the--
on Themyscira. That scene was almost identical to
the same part Loki comes out of the Tesseract. And there was also the scene
where they're all discussing whether or not they should resurrect Superman, which
felt very similar to scenes in Age of Ultron when Tony Stark and Bruce Banner
are discussing whether or not they should build Ultron. And then the last
scene that I thought was really similar: Wonder Woman is sharpening her knife and
they're all kind of going back and forth and that scene just felt very much not
just in tone but even the composition of the shots just felt extremely similar to
the scene in Avengers where if you have Loki's spear in the background and it's
kind of influencing them. You also have other smaller similarities. The insect
army very similarly resembled Ultron's army. There were also a few
shots in the final fight scene that looked really similar to a few shots
from the final fight scene in Avengers. And then the last similarity I thought
is the origin story of Cyborg was incredibly similar to the origin story
of Vision. Some of the stronger points in the writing are gonna come with the
character development and as well as the general humor of the movie. I think for
the first time in the DC Extended Universe, we have characters who have
clear internal struggles as well as external goals. So, all six of our main
heroes are working together to stop Steppenwolf, so all of their outer goal
is gonna meet the same. But within that, they each have their own internal
struggle. Diana is learning how to accept a role as a leader even if it risks
people's lives. Cyborg is learning to accept his new abilities and accept who he
is. Aquaman's trying to figure out which world he belongs to: Atlantis or Man's
Land. Flash, who doesn't know how to get along with humans and he needs friends.
You have Superman who needs to be reminded of his humanity. The one
character who doesn't really have much of an internal storyline is gonna be
Bruce Wayne, but, yeah, I think to have six main characters and have five of those six
have a present internal storyline in addition to the external storyline, I
think that's the mark of a pretty strong script. So, even though there are some
weaknesses, that strength definitely takes it a
long way. I think one of my favorite character moments in the movie, we've got the
"Everybody Fights Superman for Some Reason" scene. Diana and Bruce Wayne are
both trying to remind Superman of who he is and Diana takes the approach of, "You
are Kal-El, you're the last son of Krypton" whereas Bruce Wayne takes the approach
of, "You're Clark Kent." So, I thought that was really interesting and a really
important distinction between not just the way they see Superman but the way
they see humanity and identity. I think my favorite story arc within the movie
was Diana's arc of learning how to, you know, accept her role as a leader and I
think that arc ended really well when you have the mirror images at the start
at end of the film. The movie starts with Superman, you know, talking to the kids
about what it's like to be a hero and I think when we see her at the end talking
to a group of school kids and it very much so
mirrors what we see at the beginning and it just kind of shows in a very simple
way, you know, that she's willing to take on this role as a leader and to be a
beacon even if it means, you know, potentially letting people down or
potentially leading people into battle and to their death. Like, she's
willing to--to accept those risks by the end of the movie when she wasn't at the
beginning. And it's more of an arc I think even then you got Wonder Woman so it
was nice to see her kind of grow. I also really liked the scene where Aquaman is
going around telling everybody why they're all gonna fail and then when he
gets to Wonder Woman all he can think to say is that she's gorgeous because she
has no weaknesses. So. But then I also liked her reaction to it. She gets him to
reveal his weaknesses and she tells him that that's beautiful. He was telling his
truth for probably the first time in his life. I think to her truth is beauty. And
the last thing about the writing, I kind of mentioned it at the beginning, but I
really liked that there was humor and levity throughout the script. Probably at
least 90% of those moments of humor where Joss Whedon's contributions. I do
hope the DC Extended Universe has kind of gotten out of its system this ongoing
joke of "Diana's so hot, men just get so flustered!" We get it. She's hot. Can we
move on? I just. The introduction between Diana and Barry Allen was actually
pretty charming and endearing but then you have, you know, you've got Barry
Allen falling on top of Diana and getting all awkward and anytime there's an
action movie with one female character surrounded by male characters one of
those male characters is gonna fall on top of her and get awkward. It didn't get
to a point where it was obnoxious in Justice League but if we keep seeing it
in movies that she's in, it's gonna get old real fast. So, for the writing
category I gave it a 7.2 out of 10, which I consider to be a solid B. It's
definitely above average but definitely isn't pushed into the A range and
certainly isn't perfect. The next category is going to be the editing and
special effects. This is gonna be by far one of the weaker categories. I
think most of these topics have been well discussed in other places and so
I'm not gonna get too into my criticisms but I will say that the CGI was just
pretty lacking. There's definitely the Henry Cavill mustache fiasco issue going
on but even aside from that. The Steppenwolf CGI--I feel like that
character would have been so much better served if they just had an actor in
prosthetics. I mean the CGI, it just felt either they were really rushed
and tried to finish the CGI in time to meet the premiere date or they just
didn't have enough money to really make the CGI what it needed to be and it
could have been both. I'm not--I'm not really sure what the the combination was
but whatever it was the CGI just wasn't really up to par. It's not
enough to make the movie unwatchable but it's definitely noticeable, The fight
scenes could have been a little bit more badass. They just felt very chaotic which
I think very well could have been intentional but I would have liked to
see, like, have each hero have a moment or two of just badassness. It just seemed
like it was missing a little something. It still looked very good, the action's
not bad, but definitely I didn't leave the theater
nearly as pumped up as I did after a Wonder Woman. Overall, the editing and
special effects got a 4.8 out of 10, which is gonna be a solid C,
so pretty much average. I mean, really, the editing in general kind of kept it
at the average point despite the CGI being well below average. So, I think a
4.8 out of 10 is pretty fair. If anything, that might even be a
little bit too generous because the CGI really, really definitely lacking. The
next category is gonna be the sound and when I talk about sound, I'm gonna be
talking about the score and soundtrack as well as the sound effects and the
overall sound mix. With this movie, there wasn't really anything that stood out
when it comes to the sound effects or the sound mix but the score is
definitely something to talk about. I'm not typically the biggest fan of
Danny Elfman but I did really like the use of the 1989 Batman theme along with
the 70s Superman theme and then with the 2017 Wonder Woman theme. Having each of
those three characters have their own themes--it wasn't just fun and a nice
throwback but it also helps to give each character their own unique feel and vibe
so the score, definitely, well above average. My only complaint with the score
and soundtrack was the song Everybody Knows at the beginning and the lyrics
certainly fit the tone of the movie. The whole montage that went along with that
song was just kind of unnecessary and just didn't really fit.
So, that was partly the editing and partly the song choice. That--that did knock the--
the score and soundtrack category down a little bit and then I didn't really find
anything worth noting within the sound effects or a sound mix. So, for the sound
category overall I give it a 6.67, which is a B-. The score definitely knocks the
category above average but everything else was--was pretty average within the
category. The next category is gonna be the acting and the casting. This movie
had very strong acting and the casting choices were very good.
Even Ezra Miller who seemed like a really odd choice
for the Flash. Just physically, he really doesn't look anything like the Flash but
I think he had a good energy and he seemed to fit well with everybody and
I'm definitely glad that Aquaman's bad reputation seems to be coming to an end
thanks to his betrayal by Jason Momoa. One thing I definitely missed in the movie
was some of the great facial expressions we got from Gal Gadot in Wonder Woman,
particularly during fight scenes. We really didn't have a lot of that in this
movie but we did get to see Wonder Woman kind of laughing and smiling and having
fun more in this movie. We really haven't seen that from her character before and
that's even true of, well, pretty much everybody. You know, we see Superman
laughing and joking around. We see Batman making jokes. And we get to see just some
different sides to these characters. I'm still really not fond of the casting
choice of Lois Lane. I love Amy Adams, I think she's a really talented actor, she
just doesn't fit the part for Lois Lane. A big part of that's probably in the
writing. They also didn't really try very hard to make her look like Lois Lane.
At least make her brunette. I just don't understand the logic there. But then even
just her portrayal, she just really doesn't fit. Another thing that bothered
me a little bit within this category was Superman's, like, "I'm angry!" voice that
doesn't sound anything like that but does not a lot like Batman. I think he
only did it in Justice League during the scene when everybody's fighting Superman
and he's basically Red Kryptonite Superman. So, for the acting category, I
gave it a 7.7 out of 10, which is gonna be a B+. Almost pushed into that
A range. Very solid acting, definitely good casting choices,
aside from Amy Adams but, you know. So, yeah. 7.7. B+.
Above average. Almost an A. The next category is gonna be directing and
cinematography. There wasn't a ton that stood out in either the directing or the
cinematography that was really, really good and nothing really stood out as
really bad. There were definitely some similarities, you know, to Avengers
and Age of Ultron, which is partly in the writing and partly in the mis-en-scene of
just some of the shots themselves. Zack Snyder also has a penchant for symbolism
and I do think it gets in the way of the storytelling at times. For example, when
Wonder Woman is first introduced, we see her on top of the Lady Justice statue
very obviously a symbol of Wonder Woman herself being Lady Justice. But meanwhile,
so, she's climbed up to the top of this thing or flew up or however she got up
to the top. Is standing there. Looking. Listening. Meanwhile, like 20 people were
shot, like, 10 minutes ago and she's still just up on this statue. And I know you can't
save 'em all but you could hurry it along a little, I'm just saying. But he does
definitely like his symbolism which can get some good visuals but can also
interfere with the storytelling and I always prefer good storytelling over
good visuals. Both is preferred, if you can get both. But if you can only have one,
go with story and I think Zack Snyder has the opposite philosophy, which is
fine if that's what you like. But it's not what I like, so it lost some points
in my grid for that. So, overall for the directing and cinematography, I gave it a
6 out of 10 which is it B-. A little bit above average but nothing really
particularly exceptional. The next category is gonna be what I call
character aesthetics. This is gonna be hair, makeup, and
costumes. Most of what I have to talk about is gonna come in the costumes and I'm
gonna try and keep it brief but let's just talk for a minute about those
Amazon costumes. I just, I just don't understand the purpose? And, to be fair, I
don't think Zack Snyder is going out of his way to sexualize women.
I think he's going out of his way to sexualize everybody. Like, the fight
scene when everyone's fighting Superman, like, what happened to his shoes and
socks and shirt? He did not need to be shirtless for that scene.
We also have, in the exposition scenes where we learn about Steppenwolf, there's randomly
someone who looks like he came out of 300 fighting.
Who would wear that in battle? So, to be fair, it's not just the Amazons who
received this treatment. It's pretty much everybody. But it still irritates me. Just
because it's not necessary and I think Wonder Woman proved that a lot of people
agree that it's not necessary. We don't need to overly sexualize everything.
And again, he's not just doing it with women. It's not a matter of overly sexualizing
women or objectifying women. I don't think that's the issue. He just seems to
have an obsession with the human form almost in the same way as, like, the
ancient Greeks who, you know, competed in the Olympics naked 'cause you gotta
see everything and I think that's basically what Zack Snyder is doing. He
can't just have them naked but he's gonna get 'em as close as possible. He
wants to exhibit perfect human specimens, I think is what it comes down to.
Both male and female and I don't think it's a sexist issue. I think it's just--
it's just an issue. There's just no need for--for Amazons to be showing midriffs
or for Superman to be fighting shirtless. It just makes no sense. Put on some
clothes. Like, you're fighting. So, that's my issue with the costumes. So for the
character aesthetics category, I give it a 5.33 out of 10, which is gonna
be a C. Pretty much average. I would have deducted a lot more points for some
of his costume choices but, to be fair, the six main heroes, except for some bad
CGI with the Superman uniform, the six main costumes are all pretty awesome and
definitely deserve some credit. So, 5.33 out of 10.
Solid C. Could've been better if he just wasn't so obsessed with the human form, I
think is what it comes down to. The next category is going to be the
environmental aesthetics and this is gonna be sets, props, and locations.
This is another category that I really just don't have a ton to say about.
Nothing stood out as bad, nothing really stood out as good. So it was pretty
average straight down the line. So, for environmental aesthetics,
I gave it a 6 out of 10, B -, slightly above-average but, I mean, really
nothing stood out as spectacular. The next category is gonna be the impact
on film and this one is really difficult for
newer movies and particularly for this movie because it's brand new as of this
recording but I think--I think it's pretty fair to give an estimation of
where this is gonna lie. As far as critical impact, it's
definitely not going over super well with critics and I don't think that's
likely to change anytime soon so I only gave it one point out of five
as far as the critical impact goes. I also gave Justice League a one out of
five four inspirational impact because I don't really see this movie as being
inspiring to future filmmakers. I didn't give it zero points 'cause I think it is gonna
have some impact but not a lot. So, I just gave it one there. But then for cult
impact I gave it a three out of five because I do think it's gonna have a fan following.
Not the strongest--I think even within fans there's gonna be a lot of people that
think it's either just mediocre or they're gonna find a lot of flaws within
it. Particularly things like the CGI is going to turn a lot of people off so
it's not gonna get a particularly high score within that but three out of five
I think is fair. So, overall I gave the impact on film--it's gonna average out
to a 3.33 out of 10, which is a D. The last category in my
grid is gonna be overall enjoyment. Now, I actually saw this movie in theaters
twice and the first time I didn't like it nearly as much as the second time. I
think I accidentally went in looking for flaws because I had heard the reviews
weren't great and when you go in looking for flaws you're probably going to find
them. But then I went back to see it a second time primarily because I wanted
to take notes for this review and I expected to find even more flaws
and to dislike it even more and instead, the opposite happened. Some of the
flaws didn't bother me nearly as much and that there were a lot of things that
I really liked that I didn't quite pick up on the first time. So, the first time I
saw Justice League, I gave it a 6 out of 10 for overall enjoyment but after
seeing it a second time, I actually bumped it up to an 8 out of 10, which I
consider an A-. So, now we get to the extra-credit portion of my grid where I
essentially give up to 5 points of extra credit for kind of silly reasons and I
actually gave Justice League the full 5 points of extra credit. The first point I
gave for the awesome Green Lantern cameo. It was awesome to get to see a Green
Lantern fighting and it was really cool to see that when he fell in battle, you
know, the ring flew off to go fine the next Green Lantern. Yeah, that was cool and
definitely worth a point of extra credit. The next point of extra credit goes to the
Pet Sematary reference. It just seemed like a more obscure reference to pull
out. The next point of extra credit I gave just for Batman's face when Superman
shows up to fight the final battle. His face just reminded me of a, you know,
when the high school girl sees her boyfriend walk in to prom when he swore
he was too cool for school and would never go to prom but then there he is.
He just--he just had that look on his face and it was--it's amazing and it makes me
very, very happy so extra credit, easily, just for that
reaction shot. The fourth point of extra credit I gave for the second post credit scene.
Growing up watching Super Friends, I was very familiar with the Legion of Doom
and got very excited and then I realized, of course, that this isn't Super Friends
and they're gonna be forming the Anti-Justice League. But, yeah, there was just something about that that
post-credit sequence that really got me excited. Of course, then I remembered
Suicide Squad and how bad that was and got a little nervous
but it's still got me excited even if hesitantly so, so I gave it a point of
extra credit. The last point of extra credit is probably the silliest reason
I'll ever give extra credit to a movie. As I was walking onto the theater, I was
wearing a Wonder Woman t-shirt, had a hood on, it's got, like, the tiara on the
hood. So, I was wearing that with the hood up 'cause it seemed like the
thing to do and as I'm walking out of the theater, a little girl sees me,
sheepishly waves, and says "Hi, Wonder Woman." And it was just adorable and it made my
day and she clearly didn't see the very professional looking cosplayers dressed
as Wonder Woman in the theater. So, even though it's not really related to the
movie itself, it's a memory that I will associate with the movie and so I gave
it an extra credit for that. So, the total score for Justice League is going to be
a 64.71, which I still consider to be a B-. It's a
average but if you're not a fan of the superhero genre or you don't care about
the DC characters, you can probably just go ahead and skip it, but if you like
superhero movies and just the DC characters, it's worth seeing. It's fun.
it's not gonna be the best movie you've ever seen.
I think Wonder Woman is a little bit better even though the writing is
definitely stronger in Justice League. You know, like I said, if you like
superhero movies go ahead and see it. It's worth it.
Don't let the low Rotten Tomato score fool you. So, that's about it for my Nitty
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