you ever watch The Simpsons I yeah but not a lot not a lot admittedly in 35
years that it's been on as I'm said you still you may be seen like ten episodes
okay do you know who the character app who is yes okay so up who is the you
know he's the Indians Indian American convenience store owner owns the the
kwik-e-mart you know there's a there's a little photograph of him if you needed
refresher yeah so a rumor started this week that
the Simpsons cast its so the server didn't come from any producers of The
Simpsons it came from a the producers a producer of an of other Netflix series
that knows those producers and heard through the grapevine that they are
quietly writing a poo off the show they're not gonna make a big deal off of
it a pool because he is accused of being essentially a ratio stare a racial
stereotype offensive to Indian community the Southeast Asian community oh come on
yes I don't think that this is everybody on that show is stereotypical it's a
stereotypical show like yeah Homer Simpson is stereotypical fat dumb mail
from the Midwest the cop is a stereotypical doughnut-eating lazy cop
there's a stereotypical drunk in the bar there's a stereotypical everything yeah
that's what it's about so uh Willie the groundskeeper Willie the Scotsman a
stereotypical Scottish accent yes very Oh typical ball then in red hair like
everybody on that show is stereotypical exactly so yes and then you've got like
the the bumble bee the Mexican bumble bee yeah yeah yeah you think that guy I
mean also but like I know the show a pool and a pool is like a poo a pool you
know it well a play I don't know but a pole he's like a hard-working duties
like I he's an American citizen in the show I think yeah like I remember
reading that and he has a job he owns a business its knowledge grad college
graduate he's like 19 without I know I watched this guy arc from from what I
believe was a stereotype to actually a three-dimensional character over the
years he he found a wife he got married he had a ton of kids you got to watch
him kind of go through that he grabbed you waited his he graduated from the
local college Springfield Heights International sprinkler heights no
Institute of Technology because the acronym spell shit that's why I was
trying to get it out right oh yeah classic Simpsons you up there but but
anyway I watch this very dynamic character evolve and now I'm supposed to
believe that he is still the stereotype that he was in the 80s which is I just
don't I mean shows evolve and this is a show that is timeless because the
characters don't age so you can evolve them and adapt them to the current
acceptable satire level right if you will and I think that they should just
do that why wouldn't they just do that he's because whether you take him off
the show right now you don't have an Indian character on the show I know now
you have a less diverse show right exactly and and he the thing is like
you're trying to conform this guy when he like he was made in the 80s based on
rules that didn't necessarily exist at the time in fact I think he was somewhat
groundbreaking for a lot of people at the 80s in the 80s because he was a
prominent Indian character on the show in comedy she was a on a comedy show yes
and he was a successful immigrant it's hard in 2018 for us to look at it that
way now because now we see him as a stereotype but a stereotypical accident
he's voiced by a white guy who's doing kind of kind of an imitation of an
Indian accent Hank Azaria's accent is pretty accurate it's not like I hate
cartoonish Indians would tell you otherwise what to me it sounds accurate
I mean I've I know a lot of people with Indian accent I don't disagree with you
I don't agree with you I think it sounds good but but I've had people tell me
otherwise and I you know like when you hear someone doing in a bad American
accent and you can just kind of hear it stay back coral right like that kind of
stuff and you can kind of hear that Australian thing in certain words and
maybe that's what it is but also truth is like what a billion people in India
like I'm sure that accent is broad you know what I mean I'm sure you got the
same in every region so like I don't know I just think that would be just as
such a shame like just tweak the writing and make the
writing more appropriate you know yeah so or there I heard like they're like
recast Hank Azaria that's a terrible idea
i I agree but I would rather than recap so that's gonna kill the character but I
would rather than make an attempt at that than to kill off the character
because he offended a handful of people so this kind of started back in 2017
when there was this documentary this comedian made this documentary and it
was called the problem with a poo this Indian American comedian and and
then yeah I just just reminded this is two white guys talking about what's
racist against India people so I don't know you have to maybe take it all with
a grain of salt but like this is all my well does the opinion that I have I'm
not exactly a white guy but that's a conversation that's gonna derail this
conversation we'll talk about that later okay fair so but also 100% of all I
believe 100% of all people have a seat at the table when it comes to giving
their opinion on any topic you can take the opinion seriously or not but it's
like when you know you get into the abortion debate and someone says well
this guy's a man he shouldn't be able to say anything and you got to go wait a
minute you're saying that men don't have yeah a hand in making a child like you
want to at least hear what the man has to say living in this world aren't I
yeah like I exist I'm with you I babies like babies are a thing and it decks
yeah so like everyone should at least be able to just no one's opinion should be
invalid a sure sure sure right and this your name is treasurer kind of the right
exactly which is kind of the argument that people have against a poo which is
you know in the 80s Indians were so invalidate 'add in in entertainment and
our feelings weren't taken into consideration and you built this
character and now 30 years later we have this problem so no one's no one's
opinion is invalid in this and no one's opinion should be invalidated yeah I
agree with that right so Hank Azaria the guy who voices up ooh he's won three
Emmys for the Simpsons but maybe the most skilled and talented voice over
actor vote and he's incredibly nice about this whole entire thing he said
he's willing to give up the character he gets it like I just sleep
on a pile of cash of course this guy this guy's not he's not in it for the
OMS character have to do week great right I mean that's a whole other
budgeting issue that that that uh you know these animation projects have is
they hire like one guy to do nine different voices and it's incredibly
cheap for them cuz you're paying one guy for the work of you pay him a little
more but you're not paying as much as you pay nine different people yeah so if
you have to hire another voice actor that's you know that that money's got to
come from somewhere yeah not saying they shouldn't do it but
no but I hear what you're saying about you know someone said it was the problem
with the poo and like I know that from there's a lot of Indian stand-ups who
just will never do that accent in their act there are some who will do it the
entire act or you know a large amount of it and I think that those two sides
sometimes take issue with one another in terms of like it maybe it's considered
hack or maybe it's considered that's what the audience kind of expects to
hear out of you when you walk on stages in Indian comic and then you'll see an
Indian comic come up and he's got like a Brooklyn accent and you're like listen
guys you know not we don't all talk like that and stop expecting that of me I
definitely understand that yeah I definitely get that but I I don't think
there's anything stopping the Simpsons from having a another Indian character
who does things a different way or his son or whatever you know like you could
there's all the sorts of things it's like in like the first couple of seasons
of Walking Dead where they have one black guy they kill that black eye and
they replace him with another black guy yeah yeah okay well that's one way to do
it no just bring on another one just have a poo and have it as his neighbor
as well and then you have more I don't know it just seems like it seems like
The Simpsons is a show that's like on on on like the liberal side you know like
it seems like you're eating yourself kind of ya know what I mean it feels as
though we're crumbling by being oversensitive to things on our own side
and then dividing ourselves even more even over here on the sort of left yeah
it's the snake eating its tail people ask on this show a lot like are you guys
there bowls are you guys liberals it's like no it depends on what the topic is
right it'll depend on which video you watch
depend on yeah it depends on what the topic is I think that's the problem is
there's this line in the sand of like I mean a conservative or a liberal or a
Republican or I'm Democrat and never the to show meat and that's my thing it's
like no like what what conversation are we having if we're having the
conversation about our poo maybe liberals will be like yeah cut him it's
super racist I'm like no man I like that guy yeah it's an institution I think
it's I totally agree with you yeah I I would can reading up on that a little
bit I'm not trying to change subjects here because I got some more stuff to
show you yeah it's better I'm sweating like a glacier in this yeah I am too
well that's what the suits designed for I literally have if you've ever been
like on a wrestling team or something and you needed eight like lose weight
this is like a suck weight outfit pretty much so so I'm uh I'm I'm I consider
I've been doing research because I get asked that question all the time so I've
been doing research on like what what category do I fit in and I think you
especially working with you on the show I think you fit in this category too of
you know your your political viewpoint because it can't be left because half
the shit I talk about I don't have this left point of view although if you are
right-wing you would see me as left in fact if you call me left or right I
think it says more about you than it does about me that's interesting and I
and I'm not rate dropping knowledge right and I'm not like I'm not against
either so I found this word and it's kind of a funny word but it's called
radical centrism huh so radical centrism and you can look it up and this is kind
of a fudge of the definition but I you basically you pull from the left and you
pull from the right and you pull from anywhere else to get the best reasonable
pragmatic results yeah sounds just like it should be like it's not a centrist
normal it should be but it's a reasonable it's a a knowledgeable normal
it's not a centrist it's not someone who's looking for middle ground who I
can bridge these two because sometimes you've got like you've got like the the
people on one side who are like we should we should kick all Mexicans out
of the country and then you've got people on the other side who say no we
shouldn't yeah you're not looking for a middle ground there you're not like okay
maybe we should kick some of the Mexicans out no yeah no no no there's no
middle ground there we're not we're not kicking anyone out because they
because they're Mexican you see what I'm saying yeah there's other stuff there's
there's other reason to kick people out that's not one of them right so just no
get over you dropping all this knowledge
exactly I just looked at this greet somehow it doesn't register when I'm
looking at you in her life but I looked at the screen and it's more bear than
Ray oh yeah and grumpy bear gummy bears dropping knowledge like testicles that's
right that's right well let me drop the Simpsons video on you so after the after
the problem of the poo came out the documentary The Simpsons kind of
addressed it in one of their episodes with a small scene mmm and I'll show you
like the little scene really quick and then they got some criticism for this
incorrect what can you do right so then it was a very subtly wink yeah a little
wink wink I love that they got some shit for that yeah I do too that's actually
why I like them but they got some shit for that because apparently it felt like
they were kind of blowing off the issue this was this was a few months ago that
came out got like they were blowing off the issue but I don't think if the
Simpsons kept a poo which they may not the rumor is that they're gonna write
him off subtly but I don't think if they if they kept him I don't think they
would go under I don't think they'd have a problem the Simpsons are like the John
McCain of TV where they've just been in office so long yeah that he can go left
he can go right institution yeah it does people are like yeah but its sound
became got a vote for him and the Simpsons is there like symptoms will go
under when it goes under independently of the poo problem they have yeah well
they're all backed up with these at poop oh god don't don't come on man they
really got to let these poop lumps stop it alright the number two a poop this is
why I'm on the show that's true the comedy guy so a few years ago I did a I
did a little cartoon called YF mts and it was the the yours for your favorite
Martian characters I and they're sort of misadventures and
it's dirty and I'd probably watch it now and be like I was stupid but then it was
fun and it was cool and it did really well and all that stuff so we go to uh
we go to avoid the characters and everything we go to voice them and I'm
like I will voice at least three of the main characters I I totally can so I
voiced you know one lead character and he kind of sounds like my normal voice
just pushing like hey man come on dude let's go do this thing like that I mean
I had another one who was kind of a quiet sort of faux British like alright
well we can go do it but maybe maybe it's not the best idea like that
and then I had this third character and I didn't quite have a voice for him yet
and I was kind of talking to the producers about it like well I'm a voice
form yet and he was he was the black character and they were like whoa you
can't voice the black character really yeah and I said why not I created him
and they're like well because you know he's black and you're and I'm like I
haven't talked about race or my race at all so you don't know what the hell I am
so you can't dismiss me right from this thing and they're like yeah but the
optics of it all you can't how is their optics in the voice in a voiceover
there's not and it's also it's also like my show and I created the character and
I've done some singie type stuff for him in some songs and stuff so like you're
telling me that we have to go out and hire an extra actor when I could just do
it I mean as long as you didn't make the voice like super stereotypical
blaxploitation of course yeah I mean then I don't think again it's a it's
like it's like the same conversation is like the Halloween costume and the skin
color and stuff like are you honoring this character or are you mimicking are
you cartooning a entire race of people yeah you know and there was no no I
wasn't gonna like get on the mic and be like yes sir Massa write all that
nonsense like he was just gonna have a an interesting voice the same way my
other characters had an interesting voice there was no like well how do I
make him sound black but that's not that never went through my head at all yeah
at all but anyway I lost that argument I was way out voted voted bike
producers and we had to there was there were a lot well it was one of those like
this is gonna make us all look bad right I mean it's only it's one of those
things that could only happen in the middle of Hollywood where everyone is
you know very hypersensitive very left-wing and I didn't even see it as a
left or right issue who is the woman who's to work for you well I'm not gonna
name God okay but but I'm sure she's probably thinking about was involved in
that conversation yeah I know you respect her opinion right and I respect
the thing I'm not like I respect everyone's opinion who worked on the
show and I didn't want to dismiss it right none of those like none of the
producers or anyone pushing back none of them were black none of them were
because that that would've been an argument for me that would have been
something like someone who's black comes up and says listen here's why that
really would hurt my feelings and we have a personal relationship just so you
know because that personal relationship stuff weighs on me right if I'm gonna do
this and it's gonna offend people I don't even know who probably aren't even
gonna be offended nor are they gonna read the credits and know right yeah
yeah yeah doesn't bother me as much but anyway I lost and we had to pull someone
else in to do the boys and he was great sure he's really nice guy and everything
I'm not trying to trash him but yeah that stuff's real like people want
people want the the the race of the person doing the voice to match so what
is you said before you don't you aren't necessarily white or like what's your
background if you that's gonna derail this oh that was that whole other sex
deal on it that's a whole other side that's gonna derail this by a lot but
just know that I lost that fight yeah in a show that I owned because they people
were really pushing back on me so that exists not even at the national
level like even on the local level people are like listen if you're not
that race don't do that voice I get I mean I do a lot of voiceover auditioning
and I get all different types of races and and what may be one of the things
that they think is in my skill set is I get impressions and I get different
characters and different video game characters and all these things so maybe
it's maybe it's changing back I don't know maybe they just don't look at who's
voicing it and because you boy sit voice over is one of those career paths that
there's so much voiceover out there like even more than commercials like like
every commercial on television also has a voiceover element yeah most of them do
so then multiply that by radio and Internet and all that so this like I
would never have six voice commercial auditions in a day and if I did that
would be a big big big day yeah but I'll very often have five six seven voiceover
auditions in the same day damn and so those there I'm getting all kinds of
different stuff so maybe people are getting over it hopefully they are
because if I ever do get a black role I just talk normal
I just talk like myself like if this is if this if my voice is what you think is
this person of this race is gonna sound like then great cast me for it if you
want me to be trying to talk like you know
Method Man or somebody like that as if you want me to do an impression of
Method Man and that's what it says sure I'll try to do that but I'm not gonna
give you my Method Man just on every black character because he's black you
know what I mean and I think that's what some people think that and maybe they're
right maybe maybe that's what a lot of folks did back in the day or whatever
but like that's I think we're getting smarter I think so too
you know and I think there are ways that I think there are way getting back the
Sims thing I think there are ways that the Simpsons could write this character
into maybe he doesn't own a quicky Mart anymore maybe he doesn't have the
stereotype maybe there's an episode where he has some kind of throat surgery
and comes out and sounds a little different like there's ways to change
him and involve the plot and make it cool and interesting and set an example
for other shows that have sort of aged into this politically correct time just
write an additional Indian or Southeast Asian character onto the show it does
something different because to me there are a lot of Indian guys who own
convenience stores just right you raised it's just reality and there's there's
there's nothing wrong with that that's a hard-working job and people are
supporting their family doing that but to try to say like that doesn't exist is
kind of silly you know I just that that's a reflection of how
many cities in the United States are it makes a lot of sense that's a job that
that a lot of folks from that part of the world do here in the United State
IIIi don't see that as insulting it's not like no one's saying that's the only
thing you can do it's just a reflection of here's some people that we see and
this is what we see in our day III don't know I and again um I don't
have the perspective of growing up as a white guy I saw white guys doing
everything you know lawyer president cop construction guy plumber dancer hockey
player athlete all of these things and if you're a kid who's growing up Indian
and you just see convenience store convenience store a convenience store
maybe like you know some slightly different thing but basically
convenience store I can understand that that's like fuck man like stop putting
is in this hole right or you get the apoo accent yelled at you I watched an
interview with run over and over yeah this woman was like she was uh she was
British but she was like Indian Indian living in England or that kind of thing
she she said sorry ethnically Indian nationally British okay so she said when
she was growing up you know people would do the accent to her kind of mocking her
and how it like hurt her feelings and she would like this character to change
and so from that perspective I see it and I go yeah that would suck that would
hurt my feelings however are we gonna change this entire character because
your feelings because someone was an asshole to you right right what I
mentioned I I I get it but I also don't like major changes because of you know
an an anecdotal story yeah I feel like people are gonna get people are gonna be
assholes to one another for so many different reasons how you can't change
them all you know like I was I got a buddy and he's 611 360 pounds he's a
mountain of a man Wow he's a mountain of a man looks it's
like two friends yeah he looks like a football player but he doesn't play
football and he's a larger-than-life guy who's like the nicest dude in the world
95 99.9% of people who meet him comment about his size and because it's somehow
like culturally acceptable that he's not fat he's not obese no one say anything
about a size some same thing about something being short yeah but like like
multiply that because he's so he's so big and it occurred to me that like like
like and we've talked about it but you didn't really like that very much
yeah I mean like it's like I don't want to talk about the same thing over and
over again it's like I didn't wake up in the morning and be like you know what
Wow I just noticed this about myself someone
says I hope someone reminds me of how a guy yeah but like that's his thing and
we have our things and likes but you can't you can't remove all big things
from shows because of this guy's feelings you know so you're you can't
remedy every single problem that someone's gonna have uh some there's
always gonna be something no you could if you cry about it on social media yeah
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